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As AI technology becomes more sophisticated, so does its potential for misuse. Join John and Neil as they discuss how artificial intelligence is reshaping truth and the implications for our society. Learn about the role of confirmation bias in spreading falsehoods and the importance of fact-checking before sharing information. With issues ranging from digital misinformation to the integrity of faith-based discussions, this episode offers a timely analysis of the responsibilities we hold in a digitally-driven world.
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Welcome to the National Crawford Roundtable podcast, a view of culture, current events, and politics through a biblical lens brought to you by Preborn, saving babies and souls. Join us in the fight to save babies from abortion. Your gift provides a free ultrasound for a mother in need. 80% of the time she will choose life. Visit CrawfordMediaGroup.net and click on the Preborn logo to donate to save babies now. and by SunPower LED light therapy devices. Bring light to your pain. Visit CrawfordMediaGroup.net and click on the SunPower LED logo to get out of pain and improve your overall wellness. And now, here are your hosts, Neil Boron, Bob Duco, and John Rush.
SPEAKER 03 :
Welcome to another edition of the National Crawford Roundtable. I’m your host, John Rush, out of Denver, Colorado. My show, Rush to Reason. Normally, Bob Duco from Detroit, Michigan, is with us at the Bob Duco Show, but he is off this week. Neil Boron, though, with me today from Buffalo, New York. Neil Boron, live. Hello, Neil. How are you, sir?
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John, doing well, and just got back from vacation literally two hours ago.
SPEAKER 03 :
Wow.
SPEAKER 04 :
Literally just pulled in the driveway, so… Just throwing you right into it. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. So, Bob’s slacking this week, I guess. You were off last week.
SPEAKER 03 :
I was off last week, so yeah, kind of that time of the… Well, just as a side note for me, I told my audience this the other day. For me, and most people, if you don’t know this, I’ll give everybody a little tidbit. If you don’t have kids, this is easier, of course, Neil, but the… One of the slowest times of the year for resorts is May up until Memorial Day weekend. So if you want to travel and go anywhere, your volume of people and deals is always much better this time of the year than it is any other.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yep. And hence our five-day getaway.
SPEAKER 03 :
There you go. That’s exactly right.
SPEAKER 04 :
Love it.
SPEAKER 03 :
Exactly. All right. So we’re going to get into the podcast. Got several things that we want to discuss today. And one of the things that I really want to get into initially here, Neil, and I know we kind of were communicating back and forth on this, and I talked about this on my program. a little bit yesterday and i want to spend a little bit of time here because i think it’s really really important for people to now be more diligent than ever and what i mean by that is there is so much information that’s coming at us neil and i you we were just talking about that a little bit off air before we you know before we started the the podcast today there’s so much stuff out there and folks that are listening uh ai has now come into play. And AI, again, I look at it as any other tool. It can be used for good. It can be used for bad. It’s true with anything that’s out there in life. And reality is I am not any way, shape, or form against AI. I think there’s lots of things that it will do in the business world and other things by the way that will at the end of the day help all of us and even help us out as a country economically speaking and so on all that being said though neil i think we need to really be careful with ai on what is real versus what isn’t and i will tell you ai has gotten to the point with some of their pictures and videos and quality and the way that the mouth will even move in the video and so on to where it’s getting extremely extremely difficult to determine is something real or not. And I’ll give a quick example. And in Canada, they’ve got a new prime minister and there is a video floating around of the new prime minister talking about, I’m a car guy, so it’s talking about vehicles and he’s banning, you know, pre-2000 model year vehicles and window tint and lifted vehicles and all sorts of things it gets into. And As you watch the video, I mean, it is literally, it’s as real as real can be. You look at this and just think, wow, okay. And because, and this is where I’m going with this, because I think a lot of us, especially when it comes to those that are on the far extreme of where we are, Neil, you look at some of that and think, okay, yeah, that’s believable. Yeah, I could see that that would be something that that particular individual may do. And so you kind of start to believe that, well, yeah, in fact, that’s exactly what He said, well, for me, it’s like, okay, wait a minute. Before I repeat any of this, especially in you and I’s world, Neil, I want to make sure that we’re very accurate in the things that we talk about. So I did a little bit of a search, took me less than 30 seconds. And it’s like, oh, that’s a deep fake. All that was created by AI. He never said any of that. And my point is, because of our our bias and the way that we view things at times, Neil, we kind of get into this mode where something like that comes out. We fully start to believe it. And pretty soon we’ve got ourselves in trouble because we’re repeating something and sharing something that just isn’t true.
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Yeah, and I think, honestly, you’re 100% right, by the way. And I think that our biases come into play. And what I mean by that is that sometimes we want to believe something so badly that when we see something that kind of looks like it supports, you know, the narrative we’ve clung to or what our, you know, inner beliefs are that, you know, we’re more willing to jump at it. And, you know, I’ve given the example a number of times here on the program. But, you know, when my mom, you know, well, let me, this is probably not the best example. Well, I’ll share it anyway. My mom was not a fan of abuse in marriage and had been in two abusive marriages before she met my dad. She was very young, very foolish, whatever. But she had been literally physically harmed by people. So one time, watching a film that Farrah Fawcett made famous called The Burning Bed. Right. Right. Where she had had enough of, you know, domestic violence and lit her husband on fire, poured gasoline on the bed and lit it on fire. My mom actually got, you know, like pleasure out of that. And I said, Mom, like, what are you doing? You’re a Christian. I was only like 20 years old at the time. I was home from school break. She was watching this movie. And I said, this is like totally counter to our values. She just murdered her husband. Yeah. But he kind of deserved it.
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He deserved it.
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Yeah. And then there was another time that, you know, you know some kind of a fake email was flying around about obama and she was not a fan of obama now my mom’s home with jesus today but um she forwarded it and i showed her evidence that it was completely false it was completely made up and that was in the days when email scams were a big deal now obviously we’ve got the deep fake videos and things that are way more sophisticated but the point is her comment to me at the end of that and i’m not trying to throw my mom under the bus i’m just saying she’s somebody who loved deeply cared deeply fought hard you know for what was right and after coming to faith in Jesus, just really couldn’t stand the wiles of the enemy and the deceit and the tactics that the enemy uses to bring confusion and stuff. And God isn’t the author of confusion. But she fought me on that. I said, mom, it’s fake. You just sent out something that was a lie. In other words, you feel good about spreading a lie. So all I’m saying is that we’re human beings and whether we’re believers or not, we have tendencies to fall into certain camps We want to see our narratives supported. We want to feel like we’re on the right track with things. So all of a sudden something comes along and we’re unwilling to really look into it. And John, you’re right to take time to look into things. You know, I went to journalism school at Boston University, studied communications there and journalism 101. It’s, you know, check your sources. Like if something comes across your desk, make sure you check to make sure that it’s, you know, get get a second look. eyewitness gets some second verification that it’s true. And one other thing real quick, one time somebody we know and love sent us something on Facebook Messenger, a private message, oh my gosh, the world’s on fire, whatever it was. And And it’s a horrible thing, and this is happening, and you need to share this with everybody. Get everybody praying because someone’s in the hospital right now. They’re dying, whatever. It was that type of a thing. Well, we know this person. Like, this is a close personal friend. So we put it on Facebook. Hey, everybody pray. And then, like, five minutes later, we got a thing saying, I’m sorry. I forwarded it to you without checking. So that’s how we got it. And because I didn’t check and you didn’t check, all of a sudden we were posting – Now with the sophistication of AI, this is way easier to fall into that kind of a trap and we need to be vigilant.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, and that leads us into our sponsors, Neil, Preborn, SunPower, LED, because by the way, this happens on both sides of the aisle. I’m going to talk more about this when we come back here in a moment, but it happens on both sides of the aisle. It happens on the abortion issue. We’ll talk about SunPower because frankly, Neil, there’s some things there that I think is affected by this as well. But on the preborn side, on the abortion side, Neil, we know that the other side spreads lie after lie after lie to the point where they have spread some of these lies for so long that people on that side of the aisle believe them. It’s just tissue. The baby’s not a baby until it’s actually out of the womb. And some of these things, Neil, that are just flat out wrong, they’re lies. They’ve got their side believing in it. It’s no different than some of the things that happen on our side, which again, we’re going to do our best to correct some of that today and get people to be a little more vigilant. But the reality, folks, is pre-born babies is doing everything they possibly can to counter those lies that the left puts out that, you know, hey, it’s not a baby. Well, they do ultrasound images that actually prove that, yes, in fact, it is. In fact, that baby is moving. It’s sucking its thumb. It’s doing all sorts of things inside of the womb at a very early age. And when I say very early age, Neil, I mean that on purpose, because you and I believe that from the point of conception on, that is a That is a baby. Now, where does it become viable outside of the womb? Well, with technology, it continues to get younger and younger and younger all the time. That’s the other lie that the left will say is, well, that’s not a viable baby. Well, I’ve seen even with my own two eyes and I’ve got an employee that works for me that we had one delivered at about four months and it has lived in doing. He has lived and is doing very well to this day. So the reality, Neil, is, yes, preborn is out there countering the lies that are from the left. They do that with your support, though, folks. They can’t do it on their own. They do this with your support. And I’ll just tell you, put your money where your mouth is. I talk about that a lot when I fill in for Bob on Preborn. But the reality is, please do that. Go to CrawfordMediaGroup.net, support Preborn. Do it the best that you can because they literally are out there changing that narrative, Neal. And they’re saving babies’ lives. And I say it all the time, too. They’re saving the lives of the entire family in some cases, Neal.
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Absolutely. And this might be a prime example of what we’re talking about today, where, excuse me, technology can be used for good, because this kind of technology is exposing the lies of the enemy. And praise God for Preborn and the work that they’re doing to show just exactly what is going on inside the womb. And, you know, there’s a lot of narratives out there. I was you know utterly dangerous and it was it had killed some people no no question about it but that masks were going to work and that social distancing worked and everyone had to be vaccinated we were told all these things only to find out that that was part of a larger narrative really and basically none of it was true people lost their jobs over this and it really utterly shut down businesses and destroyed lives well uh what we really need by and large is truth and we don’t always get truth from the medical community and i’ll tell you why because dollars are attached to it big pharma wants you to believe that they have a pill that can fix anything and all you need is the medications and then when you’re on medications you need medications to manage the medications and then you need more medications to recover from the effects of the pills that manage the medications it can get really bad sun power led is light that god himself created it’s taking certain wavelengths of light and applying it to the human body to reduce pain, reduce swelling, reduce inflammation, and promote healing. An example would be a young guy named Caleb had a pickaxe accident, severed his ankle tendon. I can’t even imagine. Doctors told him it was going to be six to nine months before he could walk again. but he used red light therapy from SunPower LED. It energizes the cells to do what cells were created to do, and that’s to heal, to reduce pain and swelling and heal the body. And he was walking in four weeks. Didn’t need any medication whatsoever. Unbelievable story, but just one of many uses. for red light therapy from sun power led and listen if you’re not a fan of big pharma or medical community that at times has lined us then check out what sun power led can do you can find them uh at crawfordmediagroup.net just click on the logo sun power led it’s right there next to pre-born john
SPEAKER 03 :
Great stuff. Appreciate you saying all that, Neil, because it’s very true. And again, both of those sponsors huge in what we do here on a routine basis on the National Crawford Roundtable. So yeah, folks, please support them both the best you can. Back to, you know, just, and it’s not just AI. I mean, that was kind of the the basis for this conversation, Neil, because it’s getting so real, whether it be pictures, whether it be videos. I mean, it’s getting so real, Neil, that even folks like you and I, I mean, as I was saying earlier with this particular video that showed the Prime Minister of Canada, it’s like, wait a minute, I need to do a little bit more investigative work here. And what I mean by it’s so real is there is no… How do I say this, Neil? The mouth moves exactly the way it’s supposed to. There’s no glitches. Everything is smooth. What they’re doing is they’re taking a clip of him, and they could do this even with you and I with our voices. AI listens to enough of his voice to where then all you do is type in what you want it to actually say, and it will come out and actually… make that video and say that, and it looks as real as real can be. And for those of you listening, what I want, what I’m trying to get at here is don’t fall victim. Don’t fall into the trap of sending things around and repeating things that frankly are not true. And the reason why I want to say that, especially on our side, Neil is it’s, is when we do that we as conservatives when we do that as christians even when we do that and we send things around and propagate things that aren’t true it’s a black eye on us and it’s like the kid you know you know the sky is falling the sky is falling well you know at some point in time something is going to come along that’s real that we need to tell the world about but if we don’t have any credibility left at the end of the day because all we do is send around lies we’re not going to have that ability to actually spread the truth
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Yeah, and you know, deception can be valuable. It can be a valuable tool in war, but it’s like, it’s the main thing that Satan brings our way, right? I mean, Satan himself disguises himself as an angel of light. Why? Because he can get followers of God, you know, to fall in line and believe that what he’s saying is true. I think it’s why the Bible says in 1 John 4 to test every spirit. It isn’t just related to things, you know, like AI. But my point is, when somebody’s telling you something or a situation, um, is unfolding, don’t believe one witness. It’s why the Bible encourages us to talk to two or three witnesses. Why? Because Satan operates in the realm of deception. And AI is not, like you said, doesn’t mean it’s inherently bad, but it can be easily used by the And to cause people of God, well-meaning people and perhaps even those who don’t know him, who have good intentions to fall prey to some of these things. And what? And then we’re playing into the enemy’s hands because he’s the one who comes to steal, kill and destroy. So, you know, he’s getting his way through all that. And isn’t it interesting that, you know, that really, honestly, AI obviously has some great applications. That’s a wonderful thing. But this whole idea of having to double check everything actually adds to the burden. of what we do every single day. It isn’t, it isn’t like, oh, well I’ll just do some research and then I’ll do my radio show. No, I got to do research, then check that the research is accurate.
SPEAKER 03 :
That’s right.
SPEAKER 04 :
You know, then do the radio show. And, and, uh, And it adds to further distraction, and I think that’s the big problem in my mind.
SPEAKER 03 :
You’re right. You’re right. And I want to mention that, again, I talked about this on my program yesterday. I had a great caller that called in, and the problem with a lot of this, Neal, is the confirmation bias, which, again, we all have. I think we have to do, and you and I especially in the radio world and what we do on a daily basis, have to keep our confirmation bias in check at all times because, again, there are some things that come out where – It’s easy to believe that because in some cases, deep down in our hearts, we want to believe that’s what’s going on because it supports what we’re doing, maybe even more so if in fact that were real. So then we’ll look at that, we’ll see that, we’ll grab a hold of it, and we’ll want to send that on to somebody else or we’ll want to post that to our page or you and I all want to talk about it on the radio. And the reality is, unless that’s true, we’re not doing ourselves any good. In fact, we’re doing ourselves harm when we repeat things that just aren’t true. To your point, those things have to be checked. And what I’m trying to get everybody to listen to that’s hearing us and listening to this podcast, you might even be listening to us on Terrestrial Radio. Reality is, before you send anything on, before you even hit the like button on a particular video, Double check to make sure, in fact, that’s real. And by the way, if you go do some checking and find out that it’s not, instead of hitting the like button, you know, depending upon who’s doing that and who’s sending that, you may want to send a private message that says, hey, you know, that video you put up, guess what? Not real. Might want to rethink about having that up because at the end of the day, that’s not, you know, it’s not boding very well for your credibility down the road.
SPEAKER 04 :
Listen to this. I mean, I won’t belabor this thing. First of all, let me mention, I was on Instagram the other day and there was a post there. Somebody put something up, putting two pictures side by side. On the left was like two telephone poles and the moonlight or the fading sunlight or something was behind them. And they were casting shadows in the exact opposite direction. same direction right let’s say the shadows were both pointing northwest whatever why because there’s two you know vertical poles right and the the light is behind them and obviously the shadow should be in the same place next to it was the shadow of an astronaut obviously had just stepped out of the lunar module or something was getting ready to jump down onto the ground and the shadow was let’s say northwest but there was a rock nearby that was casting a shadow to the east let’s say And it was like, that can’t happen. That can’t happen if it’s real. And it was from somebody who was trying to claim that the moon landing didn’t occur. And I think there’s some fascinating questions about all that. I’m not going to get into it. I’m not sure what I believe, but it was interesting. I was looking at it, but how do I know that that photo trying to prove the story is even real? Now I got to research the photo to say, is that correct? Or did somebody just do this to push propaganda to say that the moon landing never occurred? The point is it gets really complicated. So again, I looked up a little bit about like, how do you know if AI is real? And it was kind of overwhelming. But some of the things they talk about is that, you know, sometimes when you right click on something, you can check the properties and it will offer some metadata information, which also, by the way, could be altered. So you got to be wary of that.
SPEAKER 03 :
That’s not the only. Yeah, that’s not the 100% factoid at the end of the day, because those things can be changed. You’re exactly right, Neil.
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So then they’re talking about things like unusual or inconsistent details, such as AI-generated images often contain minor noticeable detail errors. Texture and pattern repetition, they go into detail there. Lighting and shadows, background anomalies, backgrounds in AI images can be a giveaway. Many are overly simplistic or overly complex or contain images that don’t belong, etc., facial features, contextual errors, text and labels, digital artifacts, emotional inconsistency, which AI-generated faces may have expressions that don’t quite match the emotion or the mood the image conveys. Can you imagine scrutinizing everything that we see on the Internet with this kind of information? Who’s going to do this? Oh, look at the guy’s left ring finger is in the wrong position.
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Right, right.
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What?
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Well, and that’s my fear, Neil, is because unless somebody goes through a lot of the things that you just said, which in some cases you may be using AI to prove that AI is real or not real, that’ll become interesting, by the way, all in and of itself, because you might be using the same tool to determine if something’s actually real or is it a fake. And my main concern with people, and this has been around to your point, even all the way back when just emails were going around. In fact, we can go even back further, Neil. It’s been around since the beginning of time and people started communicating because when people start communicating and repeating something, even that they heard before long, you know, even that narrative gets changed. And that’s where, you know, not to get way off track, but that’s why we can talk about, you know, biblical text and the fact that in ancient days, they were very careful in making sure that everything that was repeated was exactly the way that it was, because it was the only way they had to document history. And again, that’s a whole nother maybe podcast in and of itself, Neil. We’ve lost all of that though, Neil. We don’t do any of that any longer. We do very, even as Christians, we do very little checking to determine is something real or not. And my point is, I want people to be more vigilant in the things that they’re doing and double checking to make sure that in fact, those things that they’re repeating are real, are true, and aren’t giving them a black eye when it’s all said and done.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, I don’t want to get too far into the weeds here, but I hear a lot of this from my listeners in Canada, because they talk about the frustration they have over state-run media, essentially. You know, they’re hearing from the CBC, who’s telling you what the government wants you to know, basically. And it’s no different than, it can be no different than places like Russia or wherever else. My point is too, that look at how The eyes of so many people were opened when Joe Biden couldn’t couldn’t stand on his own two feet during the debate with Donald Trump. All of a sudden, it was like, holy cow, we’ve been lied to by the mainstream media. We’ve been lied to by the Democrat Party and their leadership. And I believe, honestly, that debate simply because of Joe Biden’s inability to conduct himself properly. like a, you know, a properly functioning human being was what swung the entire election. Yeah. The borders mattered and economy and other things that people care about. But I think the people began to move away from the mainstream media at that point in droves saying, I’m not sure what I believe anymore. I’m not sure what I can trust. And you start looking to alternative sources like Joe Rogan and Tucker Carlson and Fox news or whatever. Yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
yep great point again leading into our sponsors pre-born which we’ll talk about real quick because it fits right into what we’re talking about because the left neil you know this they have put out a narrative for so long now 50 plus years they’ve been putting out a narrative of you know basically women’s health and abortion is women’s health and that’s not really a baby that’s just tissue and you know we can’t put the rights of the baby over the rights of mom because it’s inside of mom’s body and on and on and on we go and the reality is None of that is true. That is a baby. There were choices made. And the reality is there’s a life now that’s living inside of mom and preborn is doing. And we, as a part of preborn, Neil, are doing everything we possibly can. to not only save the baby’s life, but the life of mom, the family, and so on. We’ve talked in the past on this program and even gotten into some stories where all of us as hosts have talked to those, and I know I have for sure, Neal, you get on the topic of abortion and you’ll have a lady that will call in and talk about even being a Christian today, but having an abortion maybe as a young lady and the regret and the grief and the things that she is still holding on to from that point in time. And believe me, that affects a lot more women, Neil, than what the left would ever have you to believe. So folks, believe me, Preborn’s doing great work. You can do great work through them. I can’t run an ultrasound machine. I am not medically inclined. I don’t have that ability to sit in front of these young ladies and consult with them and do the things that pre-born does neil but the one thing i can do is donate give and make sure that they’re doing that work that i cannot do so for all of you listening please uh again put your money where your mouth is donate to pre-born today go to crawfordmediagroup.net look for them and for just a very little bit of money you can save not only one baby’s life, but multiple babies’ lives. Bob talks about the $15,000 donation to buy an actual ultrasound machine. Those of you that have more wherewithal and feel like you can do that, there’s an opportunity there as well. But again, just go to CrawfordMediaGroup.net and then SunPowerLEDNeil. Great, great tool. And it really is what it is. It’s a tool that can help people heal.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, and interesting that we’ve been talking about AI and what’s true and everything else because my wife, I’m not medically inclined as you are not, you said, but my wife is an ultrasound tech and she is a head nurse at a pro-life agency that uses the technology you’re talking about from pre-born and helps women see what’s actually happening inside of them. So when women say, I’m not sure I want to be a mom, they’re able to help them gently understand you already are a mom. Look at this, you know, and they’re, and if the woman’s willing to see the photo, 80% of the people that look at that image, choose life for their babies. It’s an incredible thing. We have some great sponsors and not only pre-born, but SunPower LED. It is really helping people to get free of pain and get their lives back again. Inflammation, the more I read, the more I understand about role of inflammation in our bodies, it’s absolutely debilitating. And it’s at the root of so many different problems. Some of you are dealing with back pain, neck pain, cervical spinal stenosis is something I’m hearing more and more about. In fact, just the other day, I got an email from a listener. said listen i know that you talk a lot about sun power led but i also hear that you have laryngitis i think you should use the light and see what happens and i i have a light from sun power led i have a palm unit and she was 100 right problem is i had loaned it out to a friend who was having a foot problem and i eventually got it back i put it on my throat and i had had laryngitis for the better part of three weeks really bad for one week the minute i started using it within about 24 hours i was talking normally again it was unbelievable what turned around well sun power led simply harnesses certain wavelengths of the very light god himself created and then helps hone those those wavelengths in to where the problem is excites the mitochondria and the cells in the affected area immediately begins to reduce pain reduce swelling and promote healing and when cells are energized guess what cells do they do what they were created to do and they heal our bodies so i want you to learn about sun power led they’ve got videos every tuesday night for absolutely free you can participate in a free webinar to learn about the role of light therapy and how it can be used to heal your body. Learn more by going to CrawfordMediaGroup.net. Click on Sun Power LED. CrawfordMediaGroup.net, Sun Power LED.
SPEAKER 03 :
All right, as we wind down this first half of the podcast, got a lot more to talk about in the second half, and we’re never… Short on topics, guys, we do appreciate each and every one of you listening. Again, I’m your host, John Rush from Denver, Colorado. My show is Rush to Reason. Bob Duco, who’s normally with us, will be with us next week, by the way, Detroit, Michigan. He is with The Bob Duco Show. And, of course, Neil Boron, who you’re hearing now with me from Buffalo, New York. Neil Boron Live. And, folks, again, thank you so much for listening. Second half of the National Crawford Roundtable is next.
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SPEAKER 03 :
All right. Welcome back. Second half, National Crawford Roundtable. I’m your host, Sean Rush. Denver, Colorado. My show is Rush to Reason. Bob Duco from Detroit, Michigan is not with us today. The Bob Duco Show and Neil Boron, of course, Buffalo, New York. Neil is with us. And really quick, Neil, I do have to say this. I’m on air on Saturday. So for some of you that are, you know, listening to the podcast and some of you might actually be listening on a Saturday and this past Saturday while I’m on air doing some of the other programs I do, I do a around the house show on Saturday mornings. And then I do a car show on Saturdays that I’ve actually done for about 27 years now and kind of where I got started. Last Saturday, Neil, because somebody was listening to the podcast and kind of did a little bit of research. And then I guess somehow heard I was online or I was on air live and wanted to call into my car show and talk about some of the things that we talk about on the round table. And my engineer, Charlie, said, well, you can do that, but this isn’t quite the right format for but we appreciate you listening and the fact that you have found us and this that and the other so it’s really funny uh neil how people do find us and you know what goes on as far as that goes and again i do appreciate all of you that listen but yes if you’re listening and then try to get a hold of me in one of my programs on a saturday you can call in and talk cars but yeah we’re not talking politics on the weekends
SPEAKER 04 :
You got to have one day where you can have one day off, Neil.
SPEAKER 03 :
Exactly. All right. So we talked to AI during the first half. And guys, we could spend the second half talking about the very same thing because it’s such a deep subject. Point being, be very careful in what you share. Know what it is. Know that it’s real. Know the topic you’re sending out even is really real. And you’re not using your own confirmation bias when it comes to those things that you’re You’re saving. And along those same lines, I’m going to spend a lot of time here, but there was an AI image sent around as Trump being Pope. And no, that didn’t come out of the Trump team. Somebody else put that together and he’s taken some heat over that. And the reality, Neil, is, you know, that wasn’t him. We all know that wasn’t him. It was more of a joke than anything else. But that image, again, shows you how real AI is.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, now help me understand this because one of the things I read about that was that he joked about the image because somebody had created it and referenced it, referred to it. And I don’t have a problem with that personally. I think the world is a pretty serious place and from time to time we need to lighten up. There’s a time and place for everything, right? A time to weep, a time to mourn, a time to laugh. So let’s lighten up a little bit. So somebody creates this image because he had made some comment, like an off-the-cuff comment. Again… I think Donald Trump doesn’t get a full fair shake for some of the nuances of his personality. And yeah, he can be abrasive and brash. And I’m not a fan of how he speaks to people at times. Like I’ve said that openly here on the program, like his policies. Okay, great. But you could say that a little differently, please. Anyway, he can be pretty funny, Neil. Yeah, I know. And the people that have spent time with Bill Maher, Bill Maher is not a fan of Donald Trump. No, doesn’t agree with just about anything Donald Trump says. But, you know, he spent time with him at the White House and he was blown away that Donald Trump was not who he expected him to be. And the thing that I’ve always said that is interesting, and I’m not here to defend everything Donald Trump ever said. I’m not saying that. I just think that when you have grown kids that love you and want to spend time with you, and they want to be a part of your world, that says more than just about anything. Because there’s an awful lot of people out there that are pastors or ministry leaders, and their kids are off, you know, absolutely estranged from the family, haven’t talked to dad in, you know, 30 years, whatever. There’s something about the fact that Donald Trump has another side to him. I mean, he’s got the very public side that is brash and abrasive, and not everybody likes it. But there’s something else going on there. So I think that, you know, he took he had made some off the cuff comment like, well, they’re going to have to choose a pope. And, you know, I’m available, whatever. I’m totally paraphrasing. Right. I mean, you know, you and I could joke about the same thing. I know somebody comes up with this AI generated photo of him in the pope outfit. And and then he reposted it. I think I’m correct me if I’m wrong.
SPEAKER 03 :
I think the White House itself reposted it as a joke is what they did. Not him, but the White House staff did. Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
And some are saying, I mean, that’s disrespectful. They haven’t even chosen a new pope. I thought it was kind of funny, actually. I’m with you. I don’t know. To me, can we all just lighten up, please, a little bit? Donald Trump does not want to be pope. He’s not qualified to be pope. He’s not going to be the pope.
SPEAKER 03 :
He won’t be the pope.
SPEAKER 04 :
But he goofed around with it for a minute. How could that not be a thing on Saturday Night Live? They would put that on Saturday Night Live.
SPEAKER 03 :
They would.
SPEAKER 04 :
Normally, if they had thought of it, and then they’d want credit for it. But because Trump did it, they’re just going to bash him.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, you’re right.
SPEAKER 04 :
I don’t get it.
SPEAKER 03 :
I don’t either. One other thing I wanted to brush on because, again, this kind of goes back to – Even some of what we were talking about in the first half of the podcast with AI and the confirmation bias and some of those things. And I’ve seen some of this posted and I have chimed in at times, even on social media. And I’m not one to post a lot on social media. I think for me in particular, Neil, I spend so much time on air, you know, weekly talking about some of these things that frankly, I am not going to be a keyboard warrior. I’m not going to go down that path. There’s very few things that I’ll even comment on because it’s just not in the my wheelhouse because of all the other things that, you know, folks like you and I do, I just don’t want to do it. And I know I’m different. I know there’s a lot of hosts and things out there that will get into that diatribe and they’ll, you’ll be a keyboard warrior at time. I’m not one of those, but I have seen, and there’s times even where you wonder, is this person really a Christian that’s posting this? Because I question whether they are or not just because of the post and their knack, their lack of knowledge of how things actually work. But there are some out there that will claim that Donald Trump is the Antichrist. And I will just tell everybody straight up that anybody that is anti-globalism… I’m going to say that again. Anybody that is anti-globalism is not the Antichrist because the Antichrist will be all for globalism because the only way you can do with that individual at that time, Neil, and you’re a former pastor, you know this better than I, that person will need to rule the whole world, therefore ushering in even more globalism than we’ve probably ever seen in the past. And the reality is anybody that is anti-globalism is not the Antichrist, period.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I agree. Secondarily, I think, honestly, because the Antichrist will be accepted essentially for a time anyway as Messiah by the Jews, the non-believing Jews, that there has to be some level of Jewish connection somehow, somewhere.
SPEAKER 03 :
I agree with you, Neal.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
And then I’m one where I’m not to get off on a tangent. Maybe we can do a podcast on this at some point. Maybe maybe you could lead that at some point. But I’m one that believes that he will have to be full Jewish, just like Jesus Christ was, because the Jews would not believe their Messiah coming would not be that. So my feeling is and always has been that the Antichrist will have to be full Jew.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, yeah, and you’re onto something, so let’s pick it up on another occasion. But let me say this, that I think also that on the issue of Antichrist, whoever this person is has to be somebody that’s going to be a uniter, like somebody that whatever comes out of their mouth is going to bring like this idea that, wow, we’ve achieved utopia. Look at this is all working. That’s right. It’s perfect. And we all totally agree with it. Donald Trump has never said anything that everyone agrees with, like quite the opposite, Neil, quite the opposite. Absolute division at times when he speaks, people that want to hear what he’s saying are like, wow, look at how bold he is saying these things. And others are like, I hate this guy. So I don’t I mean, it’s it’s ludicrous. But but I can also see I mean, they called him Hitler and that didn’t really stick. So I guess Antichrist would be the next option.
SPEAKER 03 :
You know, all I’m saying is those of you that are Christians, if you see somebody posting that, especially somebody that you would know, a family member, another fellow Christian, maybe or even a young Christian, please inform them of some of the things that. Neil and I just stated, give them two or three little points that would say, yeah, no, there’s no way that he would ever do that because of X, Y, Z. There’s easy things you can do along those lines. Let’s talk about SunPower LED though, Neil, because again, just a great tool that can help people not only heal, but when you heal, you feel better. You have a better outlook on life. I mean, anytime any of us have pain, myself included, Neil, I struggle at times with back pain and I’ll use the The red light therapy for that, I had back surgery when I was 22 years of age, had a disc taken out from being an auto technician and so on. I don’t get into all of that. But reality is I’ve struggled with that area in my life forever. And I understand pain probably better than most do, Neil, because I’ve lived with it from that point forward. Vowing I was never going to go back under the knife. I’ll do whatever I have to do. uh, you know, outside of drugs, I will do anything I, I can to not go back under the knife because I’ve just seen too many, uh, bad cases where people do. And it’s just the continuation of, and I didn’t want to be that person. So I’ve always looked for other things to do, including this red light therapy to help me in that area. And I will tell you straight up. Yes. In fact, it helps.
SPEAKER 04 :
It sure does. And in so many, excuse me, in so many different ways. I was watching a video recently of a young man who has autism and red light therapy. There’s no claim that it heals autism, but there’s a lot of things that come along with autism, like agitation, aggressive behavior, acting out in various ways, you know, swinging out, you know, sometimes becoming violent if somebody with autism is agitated. And so there was somebody who was really struggling with emotional issues. uh behavior and social behavior and so they put um the red light therapy device on their head there’s a certain unit that almost it almost literally looks like kazoo from the jetsons i mean it’s this thing that you put over top of your head but it takes red light therapy of certain wavelengths high intensity light that will not give you skin cancer anything like that it penetrates the body goes deep into the cells and reduces swelling reduces pain promotes healing i don’t know what kind of an effect it had on this gentleman but i watched on the video as he began to calm down became docile not like not like um Not like, you know, needed to be helped up out of a chair or anything like that. But I mean, settled right down, became calm and agreeable, maybe is the best word to use. It was absolutely fascinating. So they’re doing more and more in looking at how it could be used to address, you know, certain behaviors. And it’s been very effective in dealing with epileptic seizures. and other kinds of you know head trauma kind of things that people have dealt with but but achy joints like you said back pain all kinds of situations i i was cured my lungs were cured using sun power led to help reduce the inflammation that was in my lungs after covid when i couldn’t breathe So check it out for yourself because, you know, sound waves have energy, light waves have energy, and this is the light God created. Check it out for yourself. There’s no big pharma, there’s no surgical intervention, just the light God himself created and how it can be used in so many different ways to have a positive impact on our bodies. And you can learn about it by going to CrawfordMediaGroup.net and click on SunPowerLED. CrawfordMediaGroup.net, SunPowerLED. And By the way, John Crawford Media Group dot net is where we find our other major sponsor, Preborn.
SPEAKER 03 :
Absolutely. Preborn, as I said during the first half, doing some great things to not only save the lives of babies, but to save the lives. And in a lot of cases, Neil, it’s the entire family. It’s mom. It can be dad. And I think this is something that we don’t talk near enough about. A lot of times it’s mom that wants to do something with the baby. Dad is like, hey, you know, I know I’m here for the long haul. I’ll support, I’ll do whatever is necessary. And so in a lot of cases, it’s a healing that happens, Neil, both mom and dad. And by the way, when it’s all said and done, a healing for the rest of the family, because I can tell you one thing, Neil, and there’s something else we don’t talk much about, but you being a grandparent, me being a grandparent, there is not a larger joy in the world than being a grandparent and having that privilege, I guess is what I would say, Neil, to be that. And at the end of the day, Those that have abortions are taking that away, not only from themselves, but from their parents and or grandparents, I guess you could say, Neil. And pre-born is doing a great work to not only help in the life of the baby, but the life of mom, the life of dad, the life of aunts and uncles and grandparents and so on. And the reality is that young life will go on to do great things if we don’t kill it in the womb. And that’s what pre-born is out doing. So for those of you listening, I said during the last half of the podcast that pre-born They do work that I can’t do, Neil, literally. They’re doing things that I just physically, mentally, I don’t have the capacity. It’s not in my wheelhouse to do. They’re doing it. But the one thing I can do to help them is give. You guys can do the same thing. Go to CrawfordMediaGroup.net. Give to Preborn. It is now our longest podcast. Best sponsor, not taking anything away from SunPower LED, but Preborn has been here through the long haul. And I want to make sure that we’re honoring them in that way, Neil. And they’re just a great organization helping to save babies and moms and families lives.
SPEAKER 04 :
Amen. Yeah. And I would assume that just about everybody who’s listening loves the grandkids as much as we do. If you’ve got grandkids, you love them. And by the way, I was watching a video the other day of my own grandkids, the older ones. dealing with the little guy, Everett Isaac. He’s now about nine weeks. And just the kindness, the love they were showing, what I was really observing. was that my two, I’ve got four other grandkids, two boys, two girls. The older boys were treating them as though they were fatherly, a protective kind of thing. The two girls were mothering him, just loving on him. And I was watching them develop their roles, the social interaction of his siblings and his cousins loving on him. And I was saying, this is how families develop. This is where we learn love. And why rob anyone of that? We need pre-born to help keep families intact and babies alive. Amen.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, everything you just said, Neil, you probably didn’t plan on this, but kind of leads into a topic I wanted to get into today. We don’t have a ton of time as we’re wrapping things up here. Got just a little bit left in this second half of the podcast, but there was a Supreme Court ruling. handed down yesterday, allowing Trump to reinstate his transgender ban in the military, which, by the way, I’m all for. And I’ll give my reasons as to why I’m for that in a moment. But, Neil, you just reminded me of something a moment ago. And I’ve said this. I’ve had this argument with people that have sent me direct messages through Facebook. I’ve had always very nice, congenial conversations back and forth. But some people do not agree with me in my stance on the transgender end of things some people really do feel that it’s a you know that it’s a medical issue and these people were born in the wrong body and we should allow them to transition and so on and my comeback always is no this is a mental illness problem somewhere along the line what you said neil a moment ago has not been fostered in other words If you’re born a boy, if you’re born a girl, there’s just certain things intrinsically. And I’ve seen it myself with my own kids, grandkids, Neil, as you have. I’ve seen that. And the reality is these kids, unfortunately, haven’t had that fostering. In fact, I think they’ve had the opposite in a lot of cases. I look at the parents as being a lot of the problem. with what’s happening with a lot of kids that, that quote unquote, feel like they’re in the wrong body, Neil, uh, number one, anybody that says that I think is looking at God and slapping him in the face saying, you made a mistake. You made me the wrong person. I’m going to go ahead and now be my own God. And I’m going to change things around. That’s one of the problems I have with the whole. transgender movement is you’re playing God when he is almighty and he did make you the way you are and you should be thankful for and continue to move forward in your life. So to me, it’s a mental illness, spiritual problem as much as, as anything on top of that though, Neil, I feel like it’s a cash cow for the medical industry. These, these surgeries and the continual, uh, maintenance of is huge. It’s millions upon millions upon millions of dollars that the medical community now is neil is collecting upon these things and so when people come in and say well it’s medically proven no it’s not because follow the money people this isn’t medically proven any way shape or form it’s simply a cash cow for a lot of those folks in the medical industry and i’m all for a ban of having these folks in the military because frankly these are mentally uh mentally disturbed people that don’t know who they are they don’t know what body they’re in and no i don’t want them fighting for my country
SPEAKER 04 :
It’s amazing, honestly, how the topics we’re talking about today are seemingly completely unrelated, but on the other hand, maybe not so much. I mean, we were in the first half of the podcast talking about AI and what is real and what isn’t. So when somebody is living a life and questioning whether God got it wrong and that they’re actually a male living in a female’s body or female living in a male’s body, we need to really look. intently at what’s going on there and say, how can we help? Because these are people that are very deeply troubled in what we are talking about a mental disorder. And I’m not saying that to disparage anyone. Like, um, I have, uh, my brother-in-law and his wife have a daughter. Uh, it’s a second marriage situation. Uh, she came into the picture after he lost his previous wife, she passed away. So this woman brought this girl into the marriage and beautiful, absolutely sweet girl lives in New York city now. Uh, so talented. And to look at her, you would say, wow, what a gorgeous young woman. She believed she was ugly. She had this body dysmorphic disorder thing and would begin cutting herself and maiming her own face and features. thinking clearly I’m the ugliest thing ever. I’ve got to try to do something in my own power, in my own strength to try to fix this. And not that she used those words, but she tried to fix it. Another thing, you know, I’ve told this story for sure, but when I was serving as a pastor, we had a gentleman in our church who had anorexia. Typically it’s females that deal with it, but he had anorexia and he believed he was fat. He was in the neighborhood of 87 ish pounds, 85 to 87 pounds, the final year of his life. And mean and that’s he looked like the bodies that they put on the carts when they were wheeling people out of auschwitz i mean it was unbelievable what this man believed and he believed he was fat so let me ask you a question is the loving truthful thing to do as a believer in jesus christ the god of all truth jesus said i am the truth that we’re going to go to this young girl or this man and say, yes, you know what? You’re right. You’re ugly. Or to him, you’re so fat. You really need to go on a diet. You’re so fat. So what are we going to do? We’re going to lie to them? No. I mean, if somebody believes they were born in the wrong body, they’ve got a mental issue that needs to be prayed about and dealt with. And we can love them. We can care for them. But we have to realize that they’re dealing with an issue that’s not only causing themselves problems, but has the potential to cause problems for others around them. Simply because of the to what I’m looking for. The fixation on this issue. I mean, for the gentleman I’m talking about that had anorexia, this was an all-consuming situation. I’m sure it is. He was in and out of the hospital. The family was asking for prayer. They didn’t know if he was going to live or die. I mean, it became this all-consuming thing. It was a huge distraction. That doesn’t mean he was any less valuable. He’s as valuable as anyone else who Jesus gave his life for. But what I see, John, and you touched on this earlier, You know, military thing, military readiness matters. And there’s people that are kept out of the military because of allergies and depression, flat feet, flat feet. Yeah. Or if you had to hurt, let’s say you went to the high school dance, got herpes and you’ve got herpes. You could be kept out of the military braces having one or both testicles missing. I have a friend that has one testicle. And, you know, believe there was a lot of jokes in high school amongst the guys about all that. But he’s a dear friend. He couldn’t serve in the military for that reason. So there was many reasons why people have been kept out of the military for years. And if military… leaders feel that this type of distraction is going to affect military readiness and put that individual or others in harm’s way, then I say that’s what we need to do.
SPEAKER 03 :
And I believe you’re right, Neil. You bring up a great point. I believe that it does affect that readiness when it’s all said and done, the continual drug treatments and things that have to happen with these particular individuals. And And I know that you probably have as well as I. I have interviewed different people through the years that have transitioned and detransitioned because of the mental anguish and everything that they’re still fighting, the quote-unquote demons that are still there. And in a lot of cases, by the love of God and Christ himself, these folks were able to overcome those things and detransition and now run around telling everybody else what a huge mistake this is and the fact that we’re literally – you know, we’re literally disfiguring young children and doing things to them that, frankly, in my opinion, is child abuse. And we should not be doing those things any way, shape or form. And I’m going back to your point, Neil. And this is something that I’ve used this example many times on my program. My brother passed away four years ago. You know, God rest his soul. And he knew the Lord was a pastor and all of that. But I can remember a time when we were both young. He was probably five. I was probably seven. And one of my female cousins, which they were about the same age. My cousin and my brother were pretty close to the same age. And she had gotten a baby doll. for uh her birthday which was before christmas and my brother’s birthday happened to be shortly after christmas and all i can remember is my brother hounding my mom and my dad to have a baby doll he wanted to be like my cousin of course and he’s five remember he’s not super old but old enough to to know better you know you can start deciphering right from wrong neil of course at that age by all means i mean a lot of kids are starting kindergarten and first grade even depending upon you know when they start school anyways bottom line my dad finally had had enough of that and i can still remember i can remember sitting in the exact room where you know there’s certain things in your life that are always memorable neil this is one of those for me i can remember being in the room where my brother was hounding my dad and mom for a baby doll and my dad grabbing ahold of my brother, bringing him over, setting him right in front of him, looking him in the eye and saying, you are a boy soon to be a man. You are not a girl. Girls play with baby dolls. Boys do not. And no, you are not going to have a baby doll, period. Don’t ask again. And guess what? My brother never did. And he was fine. And he was fine. That did not scar him for life.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, thank God. Thank God, you know, for corrective truth and loving corrective truth.
SPEAKER 03 :
Exactly. My point is, those are the conversations that some of these parents need to be having with their young children. And the fact of the matter is, Neil, we’re not. So before we get too far gone here and we don’t have time to do this, SunPowerLED, one of our great sponsors, they have some great devices. And even when I’m filling in for you, I remind people that they have a device for just about anything you need to have done online. And those of you that have more resources than others, you can buy a complete bed if you would like to, Neil. It’s not just the palm device you and I use and talk about. They have an array of things that work.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. And it’s unbelievable. Um, some of these are more like the size of a ceiling tile panel that can go over your entire, you know, torso or whatever. I mean, you need to look, just go to sun power led. Uh, when you click on that at Crawford media group.net, you’ll be able to watch videos. You’ll be able to see these devices. I have what’s called the super Palm device, but it fits in your hand. It’s a little, maybe it’s thicker, but it’s around the size of a ping pong paddle, maybe a little smaller. Um, it’s unbelievable the intensity of the light that it creates let me just throw this out there you know as you listen to me and you’re considering can light actually heal the body um well how many drugs could you name that have brought healing to people over say the last 50 years like medications that people take for things like diabetes, for instance. What I see is I see big pharma having no interest whatsoever in curing disease, but they’ve got a lot of interest in managing it because if you have to stay on those medications and then take medications to help deal with the effects of the medications, man, they got a cash cow like John mentioned earlier. And big pharma is famous for that. Bottom line is light that God himself created has now been used effectively and is being used effectively by those who understand what’s called light therapy or photobiomodulation, to use certain wavelengths of that light to penetrate the body, literally go inside the human body, wake up the mitochondria in the cell, energize that cell, and then cause it to begin doing what it was created to do, and that’s to heal our bodies. So you need to find out what light therapy can do. It’s non-invasive. It’s not surgical. There’s no drugs involved. But just check it out. Go to CrawfordMediaGroup.net, SunPowerLED. Click on it and find out how light can be used to reduce pain and swelling and promote healing in our bodies. And thank God they’re a sponsor of The Roundtable, as is Preborn.
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Yep, and Preborn, great organization. I’ve talked about them a lot today. Reality, folks, is put your money where your mouth is. Help preborn. They’re doing work, doing things in not only the life of that baby, but in the life of mom, the entire family. As I said the last time I talked about them, the reality is they’re doing things that, frankly, I just cannot do. Most of you listening. But one thing we can do, and every donation counts, folks. I don’t care if it’s $10, $100, $1,000, or if you want to spend $15,000 and actually buy an ultrasound machine. Any amount helps. You’re helping save a baby’s life. Go to CrawfordMediaGroup.net. Look for Preborn. Give. And by the way, they’ve got other things, too, that they’ve got going on on an annual basis that you can check into as well. They do all sorts of gatherings and different things that a lot of you that are listening could take part in and really help them out at the end of the day. So I encourage you, go to CrawfordMediaGroup.net. Look for Preborn. Click on that. Donate. And by the way, when you do, make sure you tell them that you heard them on the National Crawford Roundtable podcast. as well. Wrapping things up, Neil, I want to say thank you for joining me today. I appreciate it very much. I know Bob is out and Bob will be back with us next week, but thank you.
SPEAKER 04 :
He’s pretending to be on vacation. He’s actually participating in the conclave. There you go.
SPEAKER 03 :
There you go. He’s helping elect a new pope. All right, guys, with that, again, this is the National Crawford Roundtable. I’m your host, John Rush, Neil Boron out of Buffalo, New York, Neil Boron live as well. Guys, have a great week. We’ll see you next week. National Crawford Roundtable.
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