Join Angie Austin and Jim Stovall in this enlightening episode of The Good News as they delve into the concept of ‘The Blind Leading the Blind.’ With humor and clarity, Jim narrates his experiences as a blind individual achieving the impossible, from making memorable cameos in films to pitching at major college games. Together, they explore the profound philosophies shared by a remarkable individual named Mark, who offers ten insightful points on overcoming life’s challenges.
Welcome to The Good News with Angie Austin. Now, with The Good News, here’s Angie.
SPEAKER 05 :
Hello there, Angie Austin and Jim Stovall with the good news. And today we are talking about the blind leading the blind. And since Jim is blind, I got a kick out of this title. And since he does cameos in his movies and he’s the limo driver in the movies with his black glasses on, that cracks me up that you do that in your movies. Welcome to the program, Jim Stovall.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, it is great to be with you, Angie, and I just got the script for a movie of mine they’re working on, and it’s got a baseball theme. I wrote the novel, and they want me to play a cameo. But in fitting with baseball everywhere, I’m going to be the umpire. I knew it! Yeah, something about being a blind umpire just really works for me, so we’re going to do that.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, I love it. I knew it. I just knew it. When you said that, I thought pitcher, and then I went, no. Because I remember when you said you practice to pitch at a game, and then you told me you can also, like, if you get all, you know, practiced up and everything, that you can do basketball free throws, like, one after the other. And then we talked about the pitching. Didn’t you tell me that someone was a little shocked that a blind guy could pitch as well as you pitched?
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, I threw out the first pitch at a major college game, and, yeah, the coaches were rather amazed. You know, I mean, once I knew where I was, I mean, it’s not that hard, and I practiced several times listening to the catcher. Now, the problem is when I got there, you know, the stadium was full and it was noisy, and I had a little trouble zeroing in on my catcher. But once I got him, I hit it, and then – I threw it right over the plate, one pitch, one strike, and I was done. That was my first, last, and only pitch.
SPEAKER 05 :
I love it. I love it. All right. So what are you teaching us this week in Blind Leading the Blind?
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, I do a lot of speaking and consulting with companies. And one of the companies I work with is Keller Williams, the largest real estate company in the world. And my friend, Mo Anderson, she is a phenomenon. She’s in her 80s. She would probably not want me to tell you. And she runs this amazing company she’s built over the years. And I’ve spoken at a number of the arena events, and she met one of her agents who’s a blind guy out in California. And she flew him and his daughter halfway across the country to meet me backstage at an event before I spoke. Because she said, I want him to have the opportunity to meet you. Well, he had just gotten back. from a tour to Asia. I mean, a group was going on one of these tour trips to Asia, and he books himself on there and goes to Asia. I cannot imagine that. There’s things as a blind person I enjoy doing, but following a tour group to Asia is not something I would do, but I admire the fact he did it. And he was telling me, he said, well, I love your work, and I followed it, and I have 10 points for life, 10 philosophies that I live with in my life, And he shared them with me, and I got his permission to share them with the audience around the world that reads my columns and the radio people that listen to you. So here we are with Mark’s things, and it’s just really an amazing thing this young man has come up with.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay. I’m going to go through them, but I wanted to say it’s interesting when you say that people, you know, are attracted to people who have like experiences. If I meet someone in the newbies business or Mark says, we go to this one, we go to these charity events and there’s another tall guy and he’s really like rude and dismissive of my husband because I think he thinks he’s like older and, you know, in this particular circle of people that we travel in, a lot of my friends’ husbands are a lot older than they are. So they might be our dads ages you know like in their 80s whereas mark’s like in his early 50s and so sometimes i feel like some of the guys kind of look down at them like oh hello son what are you doing here so anyway mark said to me it’s so weird because usually guys are like six foot six six foot seven like we always acknowledge each other because like you’re up above the crowd and you kind of like you know nod at each other say hello and he goes it’s so weird i’ve never had another tall guy like this me like this This is me every time we go someplace. So I just thought about how I never thought about that, how like tall guys have that bond. And then, of course, you know, blind people would have a bond. Deaf people would have a bond. News people would have a bond. But I never really thought about that before. But you do. You are attracted to like people who have things in common with you.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, I mean, one of my best friends always thinks it’s funny when we’re together is Kathy Rigby, the gymnast, and she stars on Broadway and Peter Pan. But we get together a lot backstage because back in the day, we were training at the Olympic Training Center at the same time. And here’s this little tiny person. If Kathy’s five feet tall, I would be shocked. And she’s a little thin person. As she points out, always when I ask her how she’s doing, she says, well, I’m a middle-aged woman still playing an 11-year-old boy on stage. That’s my life here. All right. And you want to go through? Go ahead. Yeah, let’s do it. Mark’s 10 points.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay. I’ll read them off, and then you can kind of explain why they’re meaningful to you. Okay, so here’s 10 points. They can serve all of us personally and professionally. A positive mindset is everything. Isn’t that the case?
SPEAKER 02 :
Oh, it is always the case. I mean, you know, you will – you know, you can overcome your circumstances. You can overcome hardships. You can overcome deficits. You can never –
SPEAKER 05 :
outpace your mindset you will you know we don’t always get what we want or need or earn or deserve but you will forevermore get what you expect now um i love it too that he came there that the keller williams lady thought oh he’s really going to learn something from you and then you end up learning you know admiring mark’s um um you know tenacity to take that trip and you know, admired his, you know, 10 points. So I think that’s pretty cool. All right. Number two, this reminds me of my closet right now because I’m trying to keep it clean and organized. I have a huge walk-in closet for a couple of years and now it’s just completely out of control. So number two, big challenges feel impossible when viewed as a whole.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, there’s sometimes, you know, you just got to take the first bite of the elephant and move on. And that’s the reason I think people never get started on things, because they’re looking at this massive, massive thing. And, you know, I mean, at one point we all went to kindergarten the first day and were scared to death. And you just make it through that day. You’re not looking for, wow, 15 years from now I’ll graduate from college or something. You just take it a day at a time and a day at a time, and that’s the way you do anything. So it’s good to have an overall goal of where you’re going, but then you’ve got to break it down to today, and don’t let it overwhelm you.
SPEAKER 05 :
You’ve told me too with some of your big trips like when you went to Europe and other places around the country, you’ve done a lot of that traveling and now it’s not as appealing to you like your favorite place is to go to San Diego or one of them. But you told me that when you did travel after you lost your sight that the right guide – and this is what your friend Mark who took this big trip to Asia says the right guide makes all the difference.
SPEAKER 02 :
Oh, yeah. I mean, it’s really amazing. I mean, every night of the year, virtually, I listen to sports on the satellite radio, and baseball, basketball, football, whatever it may be, I find a game and I listen. Well, the people calling the game and the color analysts are people that really know the game. They’re somebody that you want to be sitting there telling you about the game. Now, if I went to an art museum, these guys probably wouldn’t be the guys. And so, you know, I have friends. If I’m going to a music concert, I’ll take Kelly. I’ve played on a couple of her albums, and she’s a great musician. And it’s just fun to go with her. And then Crystal’s kind of my wife is the culture person. You know, we’ve been to the Louvre. We’ve been to all these things. And it’s just an amazing experience. And it’s kind of like, you know, I don’t want to go to the circus. I don’t care to go to the circus. Take a four-year-old kid with you, and all of a sudden, you’re going to have an amazing day at the circus. And it’s kind of like that when you’re blind. You kind of share the experience with whoever you’re with.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, and I love how you’ve explained to me over the years how you do have these different people, and one might be good at remembering names. One might be great to take to the art place. One might be great to take on a vacation when, you know, Crystal can’t go or a speaking event. And I think that’s so cool that you have like people that have specialties when it comes to, you know, guiding you around different events and cities.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, it’s really amazing. They had the U.S. Open two years ago at my country club, and I have a friend. She just played in the Women’s U.S. Open, the LPGA, and she took me. We went all over, you know, and it’s just a completely different experience because she understands it, and we had a great day at the golf tournament.
SPEAKER 05 :
All right, number four, sometimes not knowing how hard something is works in your favor.
SPEAKER 02 :
Oh, absolutely. I mean, we all know that. You know, whether it’s raising a family or, you know, paying off your debt or whatever, you know, everything, sometimes you just, all you need to know is what’s the next thing you got to get done, and you really don’t want to know how difficult this all is. You know, I’ve written a lot of books, 60 of them or something, and You know, I try not to dwell on what all is involved when I start with, once upon a time, there’s this story. And you start it, and, you know, there’s an awful lot goes into 300 pages later, and then you edit, and then you’ve got to go out and promote this thing and the tour and everything. And, you know, people say, do you love writing? No, I love having written. It’s the same way I feel about my exercise in the morning. I don’t like the process. I like completing the process is what I really enjoy.
SPEAKER 05 :
I love that. All right. Sometimes – well, are we on four or five? Sometimes not knowing how hard something is works in your favor?
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, and that’s – you know, like we said, it just – it’s best to just know the next thing you got to do and do it.
SPEAKER 05 :
And vulnerability is not a weakness. It’s freedom. Oh, explain that one to me because I’m sure that Mark felt very vulnerable, your friend, being blind, going to Asia.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, and at some point – You know, I don’t care who you are. We’ve all got some weakness or some disability, which all it means is you don’t have the ability to do certain things by yourself. And, you know, it’s always good to ask somebody for help. I mean, you know, it always works. When we are in Europe, Crystal gets that a lot because she speaks Italian, she speaks English, and a lot of people… They need some help, and there’s nothing wrong with asking, you know, would you mind helping me? And it’s just a great opportunity because it gives them a chance to give back and help you. So it’s a win-win deal.
SPEAKER 05 :
Excellent. Clear communication is essential. Well, I can imagine if you’re blind and you’re traveling in Asia. I mean, gosh, I’m just intimidated even thinking about that trip. I’d be intimidated to go with my sight. You know what I mean? I’m one of my girlfriends travels alone and I’m like, I’ll be in such awe of her that she’ll go on these six week vacations by herself. It’s mind blowing to me. I just. As you know, I recently went to Nashville and spent the week by myself while Hope was doing some volleyball camp. It was fine during the day, but then at night when I was alone in the hotel room, I’m like, oh, this is kind of boring. I like to crack jokes and watch movies together and go to eat together. So going to Asia as a blind man would be very intimidating. So clear communication is essential. So what did he say about that one?
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, he and I talked about that because when you’re with someone else and you’re blind, there are certain terms people use, and it takes a little while to figure out what they mean. Like we’re coming up on the curb here. Well, does that mean half a block away or one step from now? What are you talking about? We’re coming up on a curb here. Or, you know, we’ve got to climb a few stairs. Well, is that two? Is that 27? What are we talking about here? And, you know, you have to get to the point where you realize what people are talking about when they say certain things, what do they mean. And, yeah. You know, when one of my friends picks me up at my house for the first time, you know, I have a circle driveway. They walk up to the front door. We’re standing on my porch, and I know exactly where their car is, and it’s like 28 feet away from where we’re standing. And so I’ll always ask them, how far is your car if you had to guess? And someone will say, oh, 90 feet, I think, maybe, or, I don’t know, 14 feet. And I realize, okay, I’m not going to, I’m going to have to be cautious here. But, you know, people like my brother in the construction business, I mean, he would get it within a foot. I mean, he’s that good at it. So, you know, it’s really just a matter of clearly communicating. But it works both ways. You can’t assume people know what you need, you know. A lot of times when I go to an event, I just did one last Tuesday, a big arena event.
SPEAKER 05 :
Hold that thought. Hold that thought. All right, we’re out of time for this segment. We’ll be right back with the good news.
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SPEAKER 05 :
All right. Welcome back to the good news. Angie Austin and Jim Stovall. And we’re talking about his winner’s wisdom column. I wanted to finish up all 10 of his items. Normally we just do one segment, but we are in the midst of talking about his column blind leading to blind. He met a man named Mark who’s also blind. He was flown out by a mutual friend of theirs to one of his events. And he was talking about his trip to Asia. And he gave you 10 things, Jim, when he talked about a blind man going on this massive trip to Asia.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, and one of them was, you know, as we were just talking about before the break, clear communication. And it works both ways. I just did a big event last week, and, you know, the promoter said, anything special you need. And I said, I need to do a walkthrough about 10 minutes before the doors open. And then… don’t move the podium, whatever. I mean, whatever you’re going to just put it wherever it’s going to be and leave it right there. And, you know, and he said, wow, I’m glad you told me because we got a music group up here, but I’ll have a mark the floor and it’ll be right where it was. I said, no problem. And we’re good to go. But, you know, you can’t expect people to read your mind. So clear communication works both ways.
SPEAKER 05 :
All right. Number seven, a preparation reduces anxiety. Oh, that is so true. And so many of us don’t prepare adequately.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, and just like we were just talking about, I mean, doing a walkthrough on stage, going, you know, I have a good friend that’s one of the great trial attorneys in our nation right now. And before he goes to a case, he will go and walk in the courtroom and look around and make sure he knows where everything is. And if he’s got a client, he takes them in with him. Just so, you know, you don’t want them their first day in the court, you know, when they’re actually the trial is going on. They you know, you want people to be relaxed in whatever the case may be. So, you know, the more you can do that, the more you can be prepared for things, the less intimidating it gets.
SPEAKER 05 :
I’ll say and that reduction of anxiety like my kids when they’re preparing for a test and like it just feels so much better when you go in there. And you’re really prepared. And I didn’t always do it the right way because I kind of crammed at the last minute, so I didn’t retain a lot of the information. But, boy, I was definitely prepared when I went in there to take the test, that’s for sure.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, and it helps. It makes all the difference in the world. And particularly if something’s scary, public speaking or going somewhere you’re a little intimidated, just to walk through it once makes all the difference.
SPEAKER 05 :
All right. So we just did preparation reduces anxiety. And now we’re on encouragement builds trust. What did Mark say about that?
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, when you’re working with someone or they’re working with you, you know, every once in a while, it’s just nice to say, hey, man, I appreciate you. You do great stuff and vice versa. It’s just nice to acknowledge that. And it kind of builds the relationship. And, you know, if someone’s gone beyond the call of duty, you let them know that. Somebody that’s doing a great job, you know, you stop and tell them so. And I’ve got to tell you, that’s become so rare in our world today. You know, if you’ll stop and tell the cab driver, the hotel maid, the lawn man, whoever it may be, man, I appreciate you. You do good work. I want you to know that. That is a game changer. They don’t get that once a month. And it becomes a real light in their life. And not that you do it for a result, but I got to tell you, I always thank the hotel maids and tip them when I first get there.
SPEAKER 05 :
Me too. Oh, when you first get there. Oh, that’s so smart.
SPEAKER 02 :
Oh, yeah. I mean, one of the guys traveling with me says, you ever need extra towels, go to Jim’s room. We all get two. He’s got 38 in his room. Because if you’re nice to the, I mean, you know, it’s just you’re the one that was kind to him and took care of him.
SPEAKER 05 :
You know, I do that at the beginning of a cruise, even though you, I think it’s like around $20 a day per person you tip, like automatically, right? So from the cruise, if I do it with my family, that’s $100 a day in tips. I don’t care. Like the first day I’m going to tip the steward, you know, comes to our room and like, we weren’t getting any of those animals, you know, the towel animals. And then I said, my kids would really get a kick out of that. If you did some of those and I tipped him and then I’d leave him tips. And then we got like the bags to put the beach towels in and all the little extras. And then a dinner I would tip our waiter because we had the same waiter every night on one of our cruises lately. It’s been like changing, which I don’t like as much, but if you go to the one guy, Um, and then he’s got like a team and you tip them, Oh, I would get sushi some nights from the, they have specialty restaurants now where you pay more and I get, you know, specialty items, you know, and things that I really liked it. And that kids drinks would always be sitting there cause they liked a Arnold Palmer. And then I always wanted berries with whipped cream for dessert. So even if it wasn’t on the menu, I’d get that, you know? Yeah. So I, but that’s, that’s smart to tip your maid at the beginning of your stay to rather than tipping her at the end. That’s what I usually do is I leave money at the end when it’s a hotel room.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, my mentor, Dennis Whaley, great speaker and author, wrote Psychology of Winning. He and I were having dinner one night, and this young guy comes over kind of nervous, wouldn’t be surprised if it was his first night on his waiting tables. And Dennis hands him a huge tip and said, before we get started, this is for you. And the guy, oh, sir, that’s too much, and I’m not worth that. And Dennis says, I believe you are. Let’s see what happens. And, you know, the guy was just phenomenal.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, I love that. That’s so smart. I’m not worth it. Let’s see if you are. All right, number nine in the list of ten. Too many voices create chaos. Find your one trusted leader. Well, that would make sense for a big trip to Asia if you’re blind.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, if you’re out there with a team of people, I mean, you know, I need to talk to one guy or whatever. And, you know, he kind of gets that in. And that’s why, you know, when you’re making a movie, there’s 300 or 400 people often on the movie lot or on the set working. But there’s a reason that, you know, when they start to work, the director is the one that talks. If you’ve got something to say to somebody, talk to the director and he’ll take care of it. But he or she is the one that says it, not you. You know, everybody talking to everybody all the time.
SPEAKER 05 :
All right. Number 10, growth happens. Oh, this is so true. Growth happens outside of your comfort zone, which so many of us don’t want to go out of.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah. As you know, Angie, I have 10 million books in print around the world, and I put my contact info in all of them. So we hear from just many, many people every day. And I try to respond to everybody, but I was talking to a guy who’s in Europe, and he said, well, I’ve settled into a comfortable pursuit of the calling for my life. It’s just a comfortable, nice thing. And I said, you know… I think if it’s comfortable and nice, you’ve probably missed the higher calling. I would submit you might want to examine yourself and see if there isn’t something bigger and better that you’re supposed to be doing than what you’re doing. Because, you know, I just don’t think the best for any of us is to live our lives in this comfort zone. It always happens when you’re uncomfortable. When I was training for the Olympics, my coach, I just felt like it was his mission in life to make sure I am always uncomfortable. And I got to tell you, Jake did a great job. I mean, I was never comfortable having an easy day and just flowing right through. No, it was, let’s make it tough on Jim. But then at the end of the day, that’s why there’s a gold medal across the room from me here in my office. I love it. Yeah, that’s where those come from.
SPEAKER 05 :
That’s where those come from. All right, the column, Jim Stovall, Blind Leading the Blind, jimstovall.com. Changing gears now, if you are just joining us, this is Angie Austin with the good news. The holidays are coming, and if you’re looking to make them more personal and creative, you’re in the right place. Joining us is the queen of DIY, Lauren Mack. Here with easy ideas to style up your season. You know her from HGTV, TLC’s Trading Spaces, and the Oprah Winfrey Network. And she’s teaming up with Cricut to help add that personal touch to your home and to your gifts. Welcome, Lauren.
SPEAKER 03 :
Thank you.
SPEAKER 05 :
All right, so let’s get started. Give us some tips on how we make our holiday decor feel more personal without spending a fortune.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, you know, not spending a fortune is key, you know? And I’ve built my whole career creating high-end looks without the high-end price tag. And honestly, I’ve got to say, the holidays are my time to shine. You know, it’s those personal touches that really make this season feel so special. And I’m all about bringing that magic home with the Cricut Joy Extra and the Cricut Maker 4. So whether you’re making a mistletoe sign for your door or an adorable nutcracker treat box for all your guests or personalizing a cookie jar for Santa himself… I just love that the Cricut products make every project feel so special, you know?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, do you need, like, a big setup or much experience? Like, how do you, you know, get started with a Cricut?
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, my goodness, not even close. You know, I’ve always said you don’t need a craft room to be crafty. And the Cricut Joy Extra is super compact and super versatile. And now the Maker 4 can cut over 300 materials from leather to even bustles. I know, isn’t that crazy? So whether you’re keeping up, Keeping it simple, you want to go all out, you have got options. Now, here on set, I know you can’t see it, but I’ve got some of my faves. We’ve got a mistletoe welcome sign, a nutcracker treat box, and a cute cookie jar. They’re all personalized. They’re all made at home. And I just love how easy it is to create something custom that feels personal and looks amazing for the holidays.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, and I think you could really like, is it Etsy? I think you could set up your own Etsy shop just doing personalized things because that’s such a big thing that people want personalized ornaments and decorations for their home. And you can add all the different names to the family members and the pets and et cetera. Is it easy to come up with these designs? How do you make it look so easy?
SPEAKER 03 :
You don’t have to be a designer to make something beautiful. And that’s the best part. The Cricut Design Space makes it so easy. It’s all in one place with thousands of images and fonts and ready-to-make projects that you can use to design and customize and cut everything from simple gift tags to even more detailed holiday decor. There’s just tons of fun seasonal designs and cards to play with, and it walks you through each and every step, which I just love. It takes all the guesswork out of getting creative, especially if you’ve never done anything like this before in your life.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, I love the idea of making all these different personalized items, and you could be really set up with your own little business just by getting one of these. I’ve thought about doing that for my daughter in college. I’ve set her up with a couple of things to do, like nails and eyelashes, and she does these tattoos that aren’t permanent. They make them with that black ink. anyway I’m like do you ever charge your friends and she’s like well no I don’t so I was going to get her the cricket so she could like make personal things I thought great then I’m just going to be buying all of her supplies right she’s just going to be making things for her entire team but she can’t say like hey this is my job can I charge you well listen you’ll probably benefit from some of those details too because I’m telling you the cricket community is huge people are making their own you know created little businesses out of it but there’s
SPEAKER 03 :
So much support online from the cricket design space and the cricket community. It’s a whole thing.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes, I looked it up, and it’s just mind-blowing how many ideas, if you look up like cricket holiday ideas, I came up with just hundreds and hundreds of ideas. It’s mind-blowing. It can do that much. And there’s a contest going on. Can you tell us about that, this cricket contest?
SPEAKER 03 :
Absolutely. You know, I’m so excited about this one. Okay, cricket is running. It’s Cricket Host the Holidays Contest now through November 30th. and 10 winners are going to get $3,000 cash rewards towards their holiday, plus a $300 Cricut.com voucher. And so to enter to win, all you’ve got to do is make a short video, about a minute or less, showing what you love to make, who you’re making it for, or how Cricut inspires you. And you don’t even have to have a Cricut yet. That’s totally fine. You can still enter the contest by sharing how one would help you get creative this season. And then you just submit your video through the Cricut Hosts the Holidays page, or share it on Instagram using hashtag Cricket Hosts the Holidays on your public profile. It’s just such a fun way to share your story and hopefully win some big holiday cash.
SPEAKER 05 :
I’m going to go check that out on Instagram and see what people are putting up and what kinds of things are popular right now.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, this year it’s all about making the holidays personal and fun. So some people are keeping it simple with custom cards and vinyl labels, and others are going all out and engraving metal gift tags, debossing leather, or making full-on themed decor. Now, what I really love, because I’ve got two little boys, is the licensed content inside of Cricut Design Space. You can make projects with Mickey and Friends cozy Christmas, Marvel winter characters, Frozen, A Christmas Story, even Friends. So whether your vibe is classic or playful or totally nostalgic, there’s something in there that is going to fit your style. And it looks super custom. It’s just a fun way to add personality to your holidays, whether you’re gifting or decorating.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, I just searched cricket on Instagram while I was talking to you, and it’s mind-blowing how much stuff they come up with. Okay, where do we go just in general to get more info?
SPEAKER 03 :
Certainly, just go to cricket.com, that’s C-R-I-C-U-T.com, to check out everything we talked about here, or enter the Cricket Hosts the Holidays contest. Go to woobox.com backslash D-Z-E-M-O-Y.
SPEAKER 05 :
Excellent, and remember, when you search on Instagram, C-R-I-C-U-T, correct? Correct. You got it, girl. All right. Thank you so much. It’s so fun. Bye.
SPEAKER 01 :
Thank you for listening to The Good News with Angie Austin on AM670 KLTT.
