Join Kim Monson as she navigates the complex world of modern surveillance, discussing the implications of such technologies on our personal freedoms. Today’s episode delves into recent legislative developments, the legacy of historical figures like John Milton, and the ongoing debate between freedom and government control. As surveillance becomes more prevalent, how do we ensure our rights are not eroded? Find out in this compelling episode.
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That way you’ll get first look at our upcoming guests as well as our most recent essays. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com. And the text line is 720-605-0647. And thank you to all of you who support us. We are an independent voice on an independent station. And we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And it’s never compassionate nor altruistic to take other people’s stuff. And that could be their rights, property, freedom, livelihood, opportunity, childhoods, or lives via force. And force can obviously be a weapon, but it can be policy, unpredictable and excessive taxation, forced fees, fear, coercion, government-induced inflation. and the agenda of the World Economic Forum and globalist elites that we see playing out all the way down into our local governments. And so that’s why we really need to be watching what’s going on, shedding light on it, understanding the issues, engaging in conversation with our friends, family, and colleagues on all of this. Remember, if something’s a good idea, you should not need to use force to implement it. And on the show, we focus on the issues And we’ll mention the people pushing those issues, but we stay out of all of the personality fighting that can happen just in life. So I do want to mention the Colorado Union of Taxpayers. We’re going to have our legislative kickoff a week from tomorrow at the Colorado Automobile Dealers Association. And the ticket cost is $20. We’d also love to have you join us. That’s only $25 per year. But you can do this, buy your tickets by going to coloradotaxpayer.org. That’s coloradotaxpayer.org. And we’re going to have a great evening with legislators, and there will be libations and food, and we’d love to have you join us. 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Or three, it could be an aggressive controversialist. And lots of words that I need to practice here. But I chose it because our quote for today is from John Milton. And he was born in 1608. He died in 1674. He was an English poet, polemicist, and civil servant. His 1667 epic poem, Paradise Lost, was written in blank verse and included 12 books written in a time of immense religious flux and political upheaval. It addressed the fall of man, including the temptation of Adam and Eve by the fallen angel Satan and God’s expulsion of them from the Garden of Eden. Paradise Lost elevated Milton’s reputation as one of history’s greatest poets. He also served as a civil servant for the Commonwealth of England under its Council of State and later under Oliver Cromwell. He achieved fame and recognition during his lifetime. His celebrated Eroposidia in 1644 condemning pre-publication censorship is among history’s most influential and impassioned defenses of freedom of speech and freedom of the press. And I was thinking about it as I was reading this, that here he was back in 1644, defending freedom of the press. And then I was thinking about in COVID, where we had social media press and mainstream media that was tapping down different opinions on things. And so in a way that was censorship. And here here we had John Milton all these years ago talking about the importance of freedom of the press. And it’s it seems to be the consistent mankind. Human nature is the same generation to generation. And so we have these same battles generation to generation. But this was his quote, which I really loved. This is John Milton. He said, And so that is John Milton. Let’s see. Next thing, our quote, our bill of the day is expanding the list of petitioners for the protection order. This is Senate Bill 26004. Now, as many of you remember, we had this red flag law that was passed. Oh, gosh. Now, I can’t read. It’s been several years. And we had Republicans that were in favor of that bill, the red flag law. And this is just what happens is that the camel’s nose under the tent happened with the red flag law. And here we are back, Senate Bill 26004, expanding the list of petitioners for protection order. The sponsors on this are Senator Tom Sullivan and Representative Meg Froelich. And I am sure that, well… I’m 90% sure that Bloomberg probably has money behind this as well. Again, under the red flag law, someone can petition the court saying that someone is either a danger to others or to themselves, and their firearms can be taken away from them without them ever meeting their accuser. and to get their firearms back is extremely difficult. And so we have that. Here we are expanding this. It says the bill adds a health care facility that employs a health care professional or mental health professional and a co-responder who is part of the co-responder community response to the list of community members who may petition the court for an extreme risk protection order. The bill adds health care facilities, behavioral health treatment facilities, K through 12 schools and institutions of higher education as institutional petitioners that may petition a court for an, it’s called an ERPO, an extreme risk protection order. So once again, this is another bite at our right to keep and bear firearms. You could be accused by any of these, adding on these people, and unbeknownst to you, you could then have your firearms would be taken from you. And it’s really difficult to get them back. So again, that is, and that’s right off the chute. And these initial Pieces of legislation show what priorities are. And this is your fourth Senate bill for this month. 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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. On the line with me is Mike Rolick. He is a really a citizen watchdog and concerned about really liberty, our freedom to responsibly vote. uh act out on our freedom and uh concerned about surveillance the surveillance state that we’re moving to into and he’s got some information regarding lakewood mike rollick welcome to the show jim good morning how’s it going uh going well and so we you’ve been keeping us up to speed regarding flock cameras and then the other one is axum i think it is uh and so talk to us a little bit about what’s happening in lakewood
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Well, turns out I was on a Jeff Tagg meeting last week, sat in, listened, and found out that Lakewood is running a demo for Axon automatic license plate readers as well. There are several companies in the game. Flock is not the only one. I think they’ve just kind of hit it. like that kind of news round, you know, especially with our CEO saying what he said and the chief of police in Staunton dropping their contract because of that statement. We went over that. But, yeah, Lakewood Police Department now has a demo going on with Action Automatic License Plate Readers as well. From there, I was able to get an email from someone in Lakewood, so it’s an official email. And To summarize, they now have both Flock and Axum automatic license plate readers, and they’re doing a 15-camera demo with Axum. Apparently, there were some issues with the Flock install process. Fine, so they’re looking to diversify. I get that. And then they mentioned political issues that were boiling over, basically led to a desire for multiple vendors. They don’t want to just get stuck with one. And that’s interesting, again, because I don’t think it’s just the company flock that people are worried about when it comes to safety. It’s the mass surveillance. It’s what flock does. It’s what action does. It’s what other companies do. And it’s not just because, oh, it’s one company, you know, oh, but the other company is going to be okay now if they’re all doing basically the same thing. So I’m trying to see what action’s, agreements would be and their data retention policy would be. There’s another company called SightHound I was looking into and their big claim to fame on their website is they don’t retain data at all. So I guess once that license plate goes through and it gets a picture taken, if nothing’s going to be done with it, i.e. like for your hot list or whatever, they don’t retain data at all. So I think that The Lakewood decision is kind of missing part of the point of why people would be upset with something like Flock. I imagine Flock is just becoming like the Kleenex, so to speak, where everybody just says, oh, Flock cameras, but it’s Axon cameras and all these others as well. So when I looked into Axon, they have a they have a. program called Accent Fuses, which basically starts integrating all different kinds of things together. You’ve got your body cams. You’ve got air assets. It starts sounding really like a command and control center. From their website, it says you can see everything in one view, ID and track vehicles, ID by plate, color, make, or attributes, and view movement history across connected LPR sources, including Accent Outposts. Accent Light Post and works with Accent. Accent Light Post, they’re working with a company called Ubiquia to turn streetlights into automatic license plate readers and live streaming cameras right off their YouTube, where it was kind of like a TED Talk situation. They said, we built a reputation with more than 900 cities and utilities, and I’m sorry, this is Ubiquia now speaking, We built a reputation with more more tonight more than 900 cities utilities from turning ordinary streetlights into extraordinary tools for public safety with 10 to 40 hours of video footage with all the integration to accent fuses so now you’re looking at your lights. becoming live streaming cameras. And I know that IntelliStreets and a few other companies are looking at these as well. But when you start thinking about the grid that an accent can create, where they have body cameras, they have your drone first responders, they have your regular drones, and then your automatic license plate readers, and your street lights. It starts getting a little scarier than just the license plate readers themselves.
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Yes. So there will be no privacy whatsoever when you’re out and about at all. And we’re almost there, yes?
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I think so. And I think a little while ago on one of our discussions, I talked about how marketing, if you have a really good marketing department, watch out because if I’m in competition with you, right? We have to keep pace with each other. We have to keep innovating. We have to keep beating each other and trying to get to that next contract. And that’s the kind of scary thing. Now, once again, you’ve got private companies, you know, convincing a police department, you need this, you need this, you need this. And then you might come up with a new integration that says, well, you actually need this, you know? And so back and forth, we could go in, in, in a, in a, in a kind of race to see who could out, camera the the other the other group um fuses also has a very scary and interesting thing it’s a together cos.org for colorado springs because colorado springs is using it now a dot org normally you think of a non-profit or some other community organization um and and so i wanted to look at it real quick it says help keep colorado springs safe 1218 registered cameras 816 integrated cameras. This is right from their website. So together, COS’s new public safety program enabling the people of Colorado Springs to help keep their community safe. Your participation will greatly enhance emergency preparedness by enabling police, fire, and safety professionals to better assess and rapidly respond to criminal activity and emergency situations. It would also enable investigators easily to gather Evidence, to easily gather evidence in case of an incident. Level one, register your camera. Right there, they’re asking private citizens that they can register. Let’s work together to fight crime. Register your security cameras with Together COF today to help identify area cameras in case of an incident. An investigator from Colorado Springs Police Department will contact you via email if they need assistance in solving a crime near you. Camera registration takes less than one minute via a secure portal online. Registering your cameras does not allow the Colorado Springs Police Department to access your live video stream. It only enables investigators to know a camera is present at your location and easily request video evidence should an incident occur. Integrate your camera. Businesses and residents can Take community security one step further by giving Colorado Springs Police Department direct access to your camera feed in case of a nearby emergency. All you need is a small cord device that you plug into your camera system. And on and on it goes.
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There was a road rage incident in Douglas County. And I saw then a headline that I think the sheriff had said, anyway, law enforcement had said that the flock camera surveillance had helped in ascertaining who it was that had done the road rage, done the shooting. And when people see headlines like that, then I think that they are like, oh, this surveillance is a good idea. What would be your comments to respond to that?
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And again, you know, like when we talked to have that prerecorded show, it would if I’m the victim of a crime, it’s really easy for me right now to say, well, I at least live in a free society. Right. So there’s a gut check of saying, well, if you’re the actual victim of a crime, you would sure want that person to be brought to justice as quickly as possible. So I completely get it. It’s not an easy conversation, but you’re we’re also being in my view, surveilled to the point that your Fourth Amendment rights are being taken away. So is that also being a victim? And then how do you weigh one against the other? Sure. I’m glad that that person who had the road rage thought and shot at people. I hope they didn’t kill anybody. I don’t know the details. I don’t think they hurt anybody. I’m glad that person is going to face justice. But at what cost to to society in general as well? And then you’re looking at symptom versus the action. The symptom could be very poor traffic flow that gets people who have those tendencies to be upset. People drive like crazy. People have all kinds of issues. You know, maybe their background, you know, I don’t know. I don’t know what makes someone violent. I’m not a criminal scientist here. But then to say, well, Mike, you’re safe. because this person is being surveilled, but so are you, kind of makes me a little bit uneasy as well, right? Like, how do you see about the layers of the onion and actually solve crime at its source? You know, there has been thoughts about, you know, is it better to have different schools, different parenting techniques? I don’t know. But what I don’t want to see is rights being eroded. And people possibly having their Fourth Amendment right, you know, violated to make sure that that we catch a criminal as well. You know, can we start at the source and stop criminal intent, criminal thoughts earlier?
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So, Mike, as we’re talking about this and we’re watching legislation down at the Statehouse, and there’s legislation to push back on ICE, the Immigration and Customs Enforcement. So that’s a big subject that’s going on in our country right now. And there’s legislation down at the State House here in Colorado to undercut ICE, I would say. And my understanding is that they are really going after criminals that, in fact, I think I saw a press conference that 70% of the people that were apprehended were criminals. And and then the other 30 percent in talking with Chris Harris is is if in fact ICE comes in and they get a criminal and there is somebody that’s come into the country illegally and they’re there with them, then they’re going to be arrested as well. So I find it. I find it curious that we’ve on one hand, we’ve got public policy that is trying to protect having criminals in our neighborhoods. But yet then we’ve also got public policy over here saying we need the surveillance state to keep people safe. The two things don’t quite match up to me as I’m thinking about it, Mike.
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Yes, because a lot of these. automatic license plate surveillance cameras and others have perfectly shared with ICE and other agencies. And I know we talked about that when we looked at the Flagstaff decision. And I’m all about trying to find common ground. If there’s folks on political theories that are different than mine, but we all start seeing this could be a problem in one way or another, how do we then focus on the problem? The problem to me in this case is the constant surveillance and the sharing of of that data um i just found out there’s private license plate readers that share with insurance companies to look for insurance fraud it’s like you know they want to make sure if your car doesn’t have pre-damage and you’re claiming the damage was yesterday but the damage was a week ago so they’re able to look back at your through private um cameras as well that so the the source of my concern is the surveillance And if I can talk with people who are concerned with it being shared with ICE, and that’s their concern as well, then we have some common ground. And I would happen to agree with them that the sources of surveillance, as far as undercutting ICE, I haven’t read that bill at all. I was looking more into some of the digital, you know, Scott Bottoms has that deepfake bill, anti-deepfake, I should say, studying that and studying some more data. That’s 261049. And things like that. Right now, I have not dived into that particular bill that you’re talking about. But you are finding people on all sides of the political aisle that are saying that surveillance is wrong for one reason or another.
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Okay. And we’ll continue on. Yes, the surveillance, again, we just texted, is being abused. I think that’s true as well. Mike, I know that you’ve got a conflict next week, so it’ll be a couple of weeks before we talk with you. But thank you for your continued study of this particular subject and protection of our Fourth Amendment. So have a great day. We’ll talk with you in a couple of weeks.
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Thank you, Kim. Have a great day. Thanks for having me.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. And do you have big dreams for your future but you’re not quite sure how to get there? Call our friends at Mint Financial Strategies. They know that your financial life is unique and as an independent firm and an accredited investment fiduciary, they build personalized strategies that put your freedom and goals first. No sales pressure, no one-size-fits-all approach, just thoughtful guidance built around you. So take that first step toward your future. Call Mint Financial Strategies. That number is 303-285-3080. That is 303-285-3080. And on the line with me is Bob Boswell. He is the CEO of Laramie Energy and a great sponsor of the show as well. Bob, welcome.
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Good morning, Kim.
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It’s good to have you. And I wanted to first of all talk about Trump and energy policy. What are you seeing regarding on the federal level, the national level, regarding energy to power our lives?
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Well, President Trump is rolling back several of the policies that were put in under the Biden administration and is opening up on federal lands the ability to develop oil and gas. He has done a number of things. to really lower the cost of oil and gas for the public. And he has appointed Chris Wright in the Department of Energy. Chris is a native Coloradan, one of the smartest individuals I know, MIT engineer graduate who is leading this effort. And if there’s anyone that understands energy well at the molecular level, it’s Chris Wright. And you have seen what he has done from a leadership standpoint to rearrange policies that really promote the building of our energy infrastructure, the development of our natural resources, with the main goal of affordability. for Colorado and for the nation. Unfortunately, our legislation didn’t get the message and it’s continuing to promote aggressive policies aimed at climate change, which is like fighting Don Quixote, fighting the windmill. It’s not unnecessary. Since 2004, we’ve reduced our emissions by some 70%. We’re continuing to do so, adapting new technology. Yet our goal remains through the governor to reduce our oil and gas, and particularly natural gas, by 2040 at a cost of some estimated $714 or $15 billion, and further to go to zero by 2050. which would cost another $100 billion, so some $215 billion under the governor’s plan at a time when the state is running a deficit. It wasn’t that long ago prior to Governor Polis’ administration that we ran a surplus. today we’re running a deficit and most of that’s because of the policies that were put in to promote different projects some of which are to the benefit of the state and many of which are costing us that we don’t need to spend. So President Trump and his policies, his administration are trying to promote the development of our own natural resources, not only for affordability, but also for national security reasons. And he’s taken a strong position, leadership position globally. And this will be to the benefit of every American citizen in terms of affordability. and our cost of living will be coming down. Energy is one of the core elements of an economy, and the president, rightly so, has been focusing on the cost of energy and how to make it more affordable and improve the quality of life for individuals nationwide.
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So, Bob, you use the word affordability, and we see that word all the time, particularly by politicians and bureaucrats and interested parties here in Colorado. And over on the housing side, I think it’s really being used to usurp private ownership of property. And, of course, property… property rights, property ownership is foundational to the American idea. So the word affordability is bantered about quite a bit. And of course, I think one of the best ways to make things more affordable is to get government out of the way. But when you mention this $215 billion, the other thing is the reliability. The reliability of wind and solar is – and you many times say it can certainly be – In the mix, however, the reliability of wind and solar, it’s not there. And because the sun doesn’t always shine, the wind doesn’t always blow. And you’ve mentioned that the backup for all that has typically been natural gas. And of course, for those wind turbines, you have to have all these lubricants as well for those wind turbines to continue to operate. So it’s important that people start to really think about what this really means when Governor Polis and the legislature is talking about net zero, because it’s really not realistic. Those wind turbines cannot move without lubricants, and those lubricants come from petroleum products, right?
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That’s correct, and the other element is the battery storage that you have to have to back up Wind and solar, because the sun doesn’t always shine, the wind doesn’t always blow. And the cost of that battery storage is immense. The reliability of it is small. The latest technology is probably a few days at best. And the backup plan would be to have it fired by natural gas. So you’re going to have double the cost in terms of the infrastructure that’s needed. And this is at a time with not only affordability but opportunity. We are seeing the advent of artificial intelligence, AI. Many states are adapting that. They have regulations and incentives that promote that, but not in Colorado. and the few that we’ve had done are small sites, mainly on the front range. So we’re missing an opportunity in Colorado. We have probably the second largest resource of natural gas in the country, second only to the Marcellus in the east, yet we’re being disincentivized to develop it by not only regulations but additional costs. The governor has put in some $20 three to 25, I think, fees to get around the Tabor Act, which prohibits the increase in taxes without a public vote. So they’re calling these fees, and the latest one was on natural gas, the production of natural gas, and we have a fee on that that’s costing our company several hundred thousand dollars a year on projects that are… ones that don’t even relate to energy affordability it’s just one of them’s to promote a train to go up to the ski areas you know things of this nature so we’re not we’re not being practical in how we’re approaching this we’re using climate change as the Anvil to push policies which are going to increase the cost of energy and increase the cost of living in the state of Colorado without having any real significant benefit.
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And so when we speak to affordability, we have to really drill down to what is really causing Colorado to be so expensive, and it is public policy across the board. And then one other thing, reliability, when in December, when Excel turned the power off for a number of homes and businesses, That really hurt people as well. So if you’re running a small business, if you’re working from home and you have no power, that affects your livelihood, which that affects your ability to afford your life as well. And I was a bit shocked. I had not realized this, and I might have mentioned this to you. I went out to Elbert County regarding these Excel using eminent domain to put a transmission line through taking people’s property to do so and there had been a hearing with the county commissioners which they denied the permit for that and then the PUC had another hearing and I went out for that as well and there were three members and I thought well maybe this is just a small contingent of the PUC But then I did a little more research afterwards, and there are only three members on the Public Utilities Commission, and they are all appointed by Jared Polis. And so the policies that are coming out of the PUC is really – has the approval of Jared Polis, and the PUC has been very onerous regarding reliable, efficient, affordable power from hydrocarbons. And that was an interesting dot for me to connect. It’s taken me all these years to connect that dot, Bob Boswell.
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Well, you know, you have to have expertise and energy and understand it and understand the bigger picture. Fortunately, we have that now. And Chris Wright, the federal level, unfortunately, we don’t have that at the PUC in Colorado. In fact, since Governor Polis took office, I think it was 2019, the cost of energy in Colorado has gone up some 37%. And that hits everybody’s pocketbook, the consumer, businesses. Our ability to attract new businesses, things of that nature. So you really question what is the true goal of this, of the policies that are being implemented. You know, the governor did the grand bargain with the three major oil producers on the front range, large companies, and saying there’d be no new regulations on the oil and gas industry. Well, now they’ve started the regulations on the utilities industry. And utilities are asking for support. They’re asking for deferment of some of these policies simply because they can’t be met. And the economics are not good. And you’re seeing other progressive policies. States such as New York and Massachusetts and Pennsylvania, even Pennsylvania, are rolling back their policies that they are deferring their policies, which are aimed at climate change just simply because of the affordability, the cost that’s occurring in these states when they’re struggling economically as it is. So it’s a trend that other states, blue states that are progressive, are reversing. Unfortunately, Colorado hasn’t gotten the message yet.
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Boy, and we need to get the message to Polis, the PUC, and these legislators, and we continue to work on that. We’re going to continue the discussion with Bob Boswell, but did want to mention the USMC Memorial Foundation, which is a nonprofit that I dearly love, and they maintain and take care of the memorial, which is out at 6th and Colfax, and then they’re raising the money for the remodel. and support them because they’re doing great work. And that website is usmcmemorialfoundation.org, usmcmemorialfoundation.org. And another sponsor of the show is Lorne Levy. For everything mortgages, he can help you in 49 of the 50 states, just not New York. But that doesn’t seem to be a problem because a lot of people are moving out of New York. So reach out to Lorne Levy for everything mortgages.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. And also check out the website for the Center for American Values, which is located in Pueblo, doing amazing work with their educational programs for K through 12 kids as well as educators and focus on these foundational principles of honor, integrity and patriotism. So be sure and support them as well. That website is AmericanValueCenter.org. We’re talking with Bob Boswell. He is the CEO of Laramie Energy, which is a company based here in Colorado and a natural gas producer. And I do thank them for their sponsorship as well. And sometimes when I’m looking at all of these things that are occurring in Colorado, it’s almost like death by a thousand cuts of our oil and gas industry. And how are you guys making it with a ding here? You said $100,000 to $200,000 on this fee over here. It’s making it really tough, isn’t it?
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Well, yes, it is. And, you know, I said earlier that Colorado’s not getting the message. And you mentioned it’s important our public elected people, our politicians, our regulators get the message. I don’t think that works because I think a lot of them are politically driven. They aren’t driven by the facts. They have these themes. They have themes that… people are make people feel for fearful climate change being one of them while that’s um always we want to have a clean environment and i think we do and we’ve made great strides you know they they use this as a as a fear to fear um in people i think what we have to do is get the message to the people of colorado and that’s where our focus needs to be and fortunately your show and others um are trying to inform the public that it’s important to get the message and that people vote with their pocketbook, not with their political bias. And that message needs to get out to Colorado more and more. And we simply haven’t been doing it. Recently, we’re seeing where Michael Bennett, our senator, is going to run for governor. So he will come back with those same policies that the Democrats have been advocating federally. Unfortunately, we have a strong president and elected officials that understand the reality of politics. of energy and economics. But I suspect if Senator Bennett becomes governor, he and Polis’ term is up that he’ll appoint Polis as his substitute at the federal level. So we’ll get more of the same. Coloradans need to have a choice and need to be able to understand the effects of these regulations and these policies you know on the state of colorado in particular in the nation as a whole well and
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I think you’re right, Bob, and that’s why we do the show. As I look at quotes all the time that we use in our show, Thomas Jefferson, the founding fathers, really said it’s important to have an informed and educated public. And with the 24-hour news cycle and all of the social media, it’s difficult for everyday people. They’re busy. They have all kinds of pop-up information on their phone. It is something that we’ve got to do every day, and that’s why we do the show, is to help people get their brain around these issues so that they can talk with reason and not the passion that we see being fomented on those from the radical left. And when we talk about the Colorado State Legislature and this governor, These are radical activists. They have Democrat by their name. But this is not the Democrat Party of your grandpa and your grandma or JFK. This Democrat Party is over on the fringe. And I think we need to explain that as well to people, Bob.
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I think we need to understand it. That’s the difficulty. They have themes and they have strong financial backing. The Gang of Four that several years ago produced the Colorado Blueprint. Governor Polis was one of those with three other wealthy individuals. that had a plan to put in place to turn Colorado from red to purple to blue. And we’re strong blue. And the people that have been elected and the money that’s gone into these different primaries and elections have been strongly financed by people such as the very wealthy elites that are part of the Gang of Four and their related parties. So that’s been a problem that’s just really the funding itself has been strongly towards these activists, you know, not only in the state of Colorado, but in these other blue states. And we’re seeing, you know, some of the economic issues in California, New York, and those things are I’m afraid just going to get worse. You’ve got people leaving New York. You’ve got people leaving California, you know, New York with their new New York City with their new mayor and his administration. political background and goals are just going to make it much, much more difficult for the city of New York. And I wouldn’t be surprised to see a very large exodus of businesses out of New York City simply because of the cost of the policies that are being implemented and advocated by the new mayor.
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Well, and I had pulled this headline from, let’s see, this is from When In Your State USA. It says, California’s proposed billionaire tax already has Google founders heading for the exits. And it said that… Sergey Brin had spent 30 years building his fortune in California. But 10 days before Christmas in 2025, he terminated or relocated 15 California LLCs. And then Google co-founder Larry Page had made the same move weeks earlier. So even though you have many of these billionaires that are funding leftist causes, when it comes right down to their own pocketbook, They do things that are in their own self-interest, which I totally understand. So these policies are really decimating some of these beautiful states like California and Colorado.
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Well, that’s the case. And Elon Musk, probably the greatest technical mind of our generation, moved to Texas simply because the taxation, the regulations in California were such that it made it difficult for him to stay there. And he could certainly afford to, but Musk is a businessman. He’s going to do what’s right for his business and his shareholders. And that’s, you know, get out of oppressive regimes or areas and into areas which are more advocate business and growth. We need that leadership in Colorado that advocates growth and opportunity. And frankly, it’s been delayed, deferred, and in some instances, completely killed. So we need to have the right leadership, and we need to have an informed public so they understand what’s in their own best interest.
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Absolutely. And so that’s why we do the show. And I so thank you for your partnership on this, Bob Boswell. Your final thoughts.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, my final thought, and I think it’s what I said at the beginning of the show, that Colorado missed the message. They didn’t see the memo. Our leadership didn’t. And our public needs to be informed of what the real situation is, what these policies, how they’re impacting their daily lives, their affordability, and their standard and quality of life in Colorado. And that means that we need to help the public understand. the importance of having good, strong leadership that understands the realities of the economy and affordability.
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Well, and we will continue on doing that, Bob Boswell, and we’ll talk with you next month. It’s Bob Boswell. He is the CEO of Laramie Energy. Thanks so much, Bob, and have a good day.
SPEAKER 03 :
Thank you, Kim.
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Indeed, let’s have a conversation, and welcome to our number two of the Kim Monson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You eat your treasure, you’re valued, you have purpose. Today, strive for excellence, take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body, my friends. We were made for this moment in history. And thank you to the team. That’s Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, Amanda, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Wednesday, Producer Joe. Happy Wednesday, Kim. And another important show today, a great conversation with Bob Boswell and Mike Rolick in hour number one. If you missed that, you can tune in today, 1 to 2 p.m. on all KLZ 560 platforms. And you can catch that, as you know, we are on live 6 to 8 a.m. Monday through Friday. First hour is rebroadcast 1 to 2 in the afternoon. Second hour, 10 to 11 at night. And those platforms are KLZ 560 AM, KLZ 100.7 FM, the KLZ website, and the KLZ app. And right now we are doing some new things to the website. And so our podcasts are not on the website for the last few weeks as we are preparing to make this switch. So just stay tuned on that. And if there is a show that you really, really would like to have immediately, text me at our text line 720-605-0647 and I will get the SoundCloud link to you. for that and again that is the text line 720-605-0647 the website is kimmonson.com and you can email me at kim at kimmonson.com and i thank all of you who support us and as you know we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force force versus freedom if something’s a good idea you should not have to force people to implement it. And on the show, we focus on the issues. We’ll mention the people behind those issues, but we stay out of all of the personality fighting. Our word of the day is polemicist. It is P-O-L-E-M-I-C-I-S-T. I chose it because John Milton, who is our quote of the day, was noted as a polemicist. And it could be, it says, one who has an aggressive attack or refutation of the opinions or principles of others. So engaging in this conversation, the art or practice of disputation or controversy. And that’s really what we need to do is to be able to, and when we say aggressive, I don’t take it as aggressive name calling, but more as an aggressive way to, you know, check your principles and communicate foundational principles. And that is what we really are working to help you with on the show is to be able to engage in these conversations, to get through all of the confusion that is thrown at us each and every day, and to be able to have these conversations. So that is our word of the day. It’s polemicist. And John Milton was an English poet, polemicist, and civil servant. And his 1667 epic poem, Paradise Lost, was written in blank verse and included 12 books. He’s very famous for that. And then he also made a… a defense of freedom of the press, and that was in his celebrated Eropagidia, and that was published in 1644, condemning pre-publication censorship, and That still happens in different ways, but we still see that happen. So he was making the case for freedom of the press. But this was his quote, and I love this. He said, “…gratitude bestows reverence, allowing us to encounter everyday epiphanies, those transcendent moments of awe that change forever how we experience life and the world.” Then our bill of the day is Senate Bill 26004, sponsored by Senator Tom Sullivan. And hold on here. Let me get back to it. Sorry about that, guys. I deleted out of that particular window, and I hate that when that happens. But it’s basically expanding the list of… of people that can petition the court to have weapons taken away. It’s an expansion of those who can report for the red flag law. And I was opposed to the red flag law when it was presented and passed a few years ago. And And you get that Campbell’s nose under the tent. And then you’ll see additional legislation, just like what we’re seeing here, that expands that. And this is really an affront upon our Second Amendment rights to keep and bear firearms. And so that is Senate Bill 26004. And let me just to get I just about got to it. Here we go. And this is the sponsors on this are Senator Tom Sullivan and Representative Meg Froelich. And it’s titled Expand List of Petitioners for Protection Order. And so that is our bill of the day. And one other thing that I just wanted to mention before we get to Lauren. And Susan Kochavar texted me after I mentioned this particular bill earlier this week regarding an additional tax on vacant homes. And she said, Kim, what would be the definition of a vacant home? And I think she was on it. It looks to me like it is a second home that people have, and particularly up in the mountains. And it’s being proposed under the guise that if people aren’t living there, then they should be providing affordable housing for people that are working there. And this is a direct affront, again, upon private property rights. If somebody has purchased a home and they’re paying property taxes, this would be an additional property tax trying to push people into renting their homes out. And this is a very dangerous road to go down. We’ll continue the discussion on this, but I just wanted to give a shout out to Susan because she figured that out as I was talking about that earlier this week. And we have on the line with us, Lorne Levy. He is everything mortgages. He can help you in 49 of the 50 states, just not New York. And a great sponsor of the show. Lorne Levy, welcome.
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Hey, good morning, Kim.
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And what’s the latest regarding mortgage rates and people being able to get into homes?
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You know, it’s an interesting time. We talk about this all the time. You know, markets are news driven primarily. So When we spoke within the last couple of weeks, that was right after President Trump had said that he was going to direct Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to buy $200 billion worth of mortgages, which was like the cap or 200, which was, you know, the amount of money that they had on hand on cash on their books we talked about, which that caused mortgage rates to drop for about a week, which is nice. And several people were able to jump in and either get a better rate on a home they were already buying or jump into a refinance opportunity to lower their rates that they’ve gotten in the last year to year and a half. And then all of a sudden now with a lot of this stuff going on with Greenland and, you know, whether it’s important or not with the things like that Denmark has said yesterday that their pension fund is going to sell U.S. Treasuries, things like that, the yield on the 10-year note has gone up to like 429, which is the highest it’s been in a little while here, so rates jumped back up. And so it just further reemphasizes the belief that we talk about all the time where people just need to be prepared to jump on opportunities when they show themselves because they could be fleeting sometimes.
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Yeah, and there is so much news happening out there. And this whole thing regarding Greenland is really interesting. It seems that Greenland is important for national security for the United States. But, my gosh, there’s a whole lot of emotion around this particular subject right now. And emotion plays out in the market as well.
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yeah you know you know a lot more about that stuff than i do i don’t spend a lot of time um you know i don’t know why you know what the basis is for us wanting to acquire it versus just have additional bases there um i haven’t done any research and don’t claim to so but when it causes arguments just among nations and um increasing tariffs become threatened that is what puts fear into trade, into global growth and things like that. That’s what affects the 10-year U.S. Treasury and makes people just kind of sell assets as a general rule, and that creates mortgage rates going higher. So it’s a battle. On one hand, one week Trump did something really good to lower rates, and then the next week, on a completely different matter, nothing to do with housing, whether it was inadvertent or not, took the improvement in rates and took it away.
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Well, it’s interesting. So it’s good to have a professional that is watching out for you. And I know that you help your clients be watching for things. And how can people reach you, Lauren Levy? Because I think it’s important to have you as the professional regarding everything mortgages. What’s that phone number?
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Absolutely. It’s 303-880-8881. And the one thing I’ll finish off by saying is we maintain lists. So if we talk to folks and today is not a good time to help them, we will keep them on our fingertips. And if there is an opportunity, we’ll call and get in front of it. So that’s what we always suggest people do is just get in touch and get ready and then be prepared.
SPEAKER 11 :
That is great advice. And so that number for Lorne Levy is 303-880-8881. Good to talk with you. We’ll talk with you next week.
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Thank you so much.
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I was going to say, Kim, thank you. Thanks for having me. But I was going to say, it’s hard to believe that it’s been a week, and then I realized it hasn’t actually been a week. It’s only been five days of Sabbath.
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I know because you were in for the great pancake and sausage breakfast since you’re in for the National Western. I don’t want to call him my old producer. My former producer, Steve Ebeling, makes the best pancakes, I think, in the world.
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That guy needs to put that on the market. My goodness, Steve knows how to put pancakes together like nobody else.
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He certainly does, but it was great fun and really appreciate that. Yeah, that was last Friday. And so you’re here for the National Western. I know you put a lot of miles on your pickup trucks, and you’d gone to, what, Sioux Falls and then back. And so you’re at the National Western right now. So first thing, just give us an update on the National Western.
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I have to tell you that it’s been absolutely incredible. And I had a great conversation yesterday with the chairman of the board, Doug Jones. We talked about somebody said in his presence, as I introduced him to Brett Spader, who’s with the Charolais Association. And Brett made a statement. He said, well, you’ve put this together so quickly. And Doug laughed at him. He said, do you think it’s been quick? Because the truth of the matter is the Denver voters, and I believe Doug said 2015, and you may know Kim, passed a bond initiative to say, yes, we want to make improvements and invest in the National Western and keep people coming here and celebrating the history of the culture of Colorado and the West. And so that’s 11 years. What Brett was referring to is that last year, you know, there was a new building going up, and then this year we’re fully engulfed in that building, and it’s just been absolutely fantastic. I’ve been running around my camera, visiting with exhibitors, visiting with people who come to the National Western with kids in tow and just ask them what they think. And I have to tell you that everybody that I have visited with Let’s leave the exhibitors out because exhibitors are exhibitors and they do a fantastic job. They go to livestock shows all over the country. But the everyday Denver citizens that I’ve talked to that brought their kids, they just all appreciate and so enjoy seeing the animals, visiting with the people, and it has been a tremendously rewarding week from that regard. And I have to also say that at the end of the day, You know, during that COVID experience, there were some challenges with the city of Denver. Everybody has now come together in harmony and understand that we must continue to celebrate what it is that people taking care of God’s creation and enabling life have been doing and must continue to do.
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Well, and I think I saw a headline that last week was record attendance out at the National Western.
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Doug said that there has been record attendance, record exhibitors, anything where there has been a record. And, in fact, here’s one other very interesting little antidote. I’ve been spending quite a bit of time in the international hospitality area because I want to welcome guests. And the National Western, through the past 50 years, has really been more than just a celebration of American West and culture. It’s been… canada and mexico and if you go in that international area where international guests are free to come in and there’s hospitality with coffee and water and snacks and everybody puts a pin on the board the canadian pins have become so cluttered they can’t even get another pin on there it’s really opened back up to the international folks and that’s been another tremendous asset in fact I met a guy, David Hobbs, from Australia yesterday and had the opportunity to visit with him about cattle business. He’s here buying semen and visiting with cattlemen in the United States and working at improving his genetics back in Australia. So from that regard, it’s been a success as well.
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And speaking of Canada, we’ve not talked about it for a little while. Wasn’t it the ostriches? Was that Canada or was that U.S.? Now I can’t remember.
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That was Canada and British Columbia. The ostriches were euthanized back in October by the Canadian Food Inspection Agency. And there are several situations, not only in the United States but in Canada, where similar protocols are being followed in terms of euthanization. Two weeks ago, I maybe mentioned this briefly, there’s a friend of mine in Minnesota that has been fined a $200,000 fine and issued a statement that he must double fence his deer farm. He tried to get that in front of the U.S. Supreme Court last week. That failed. The Supreme Court said they’re not going to hear the case, and the next step that he’s expecting is the state of Minnesota DNR is going to come and euthanize his deer. The other issue, and I’ll have a guest on tomorrow from Canada, The Canadian Food Inspection Agency, which, by the way, is the parallel agency of the United States Department of Agriculture, is bringing about new transportation rules in Canada that are extremely cumbersome. If you load an animal and take it from one part of your farm to another part of your farm, or you’ve got two farms, or you’re doing any transportation, you actually have to get permission from the CFIA agency to do that, and we continue to see from a food standpoint the rules, the hurdles, and the cumbersome plans to increase the cost of food production are accelerating at a rate that I’ve not experienced in my lifetime.
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And we have PBIs, politicians, bureaucrats, and interested parties that talk all the time about affordability. And yet I think that they’re using that term affordability regarding housing here in Colorado, particularly in the metro area, to then use subsidies and pick winners and losers and building these massive, I think look to me like communist block apartment buildings. And I’m wondering where all the people are supposedly coming that’s going to live in these. But this whole term affordability, on one hand, they use it to put in public policy, pick winners and losers, to push those programs. But then over here, we talked with Bob Boswell in hour number one. regarding affordability of our power sources, our food. They’re doing all kinds of things to make these basic essentials more and more expensive for everyday hardworking Coloradans and Americans.
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And that’s not just Colorado. That’s not even just the United States. The same thing is happening in Canada. The same thing is happening around the world. Everybody’s trying to stab my friend Kelly Seaton in the U.K. weekly. You joined us last week. We weekly get a dose of affordable housing going up in the U.K. These are blatant cover-ups for 15-minute cities, and it is the C40 agreement to consolidate and confine people, period.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, and you look at these apartment buildings, and again, they look like Soviet-style apartment buildings. Most of them would be difficult to get out of if they locked the door, from what I can see.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, 100%. It is confinement and control of people. Which is why we come to celebrate the National Western and what it stands for and how we maintain it. Because, you know, I want to just put this into context. We’re now looking at a very severe weather weekend. I mean, we’re told that the weather is going to turn very cold. It’s going to be for a big chunk of the United States, massive ice or snow and sub-zero temperatures, 25, 30 below wind chills. And you think about 1906, the first year that three guys got together and they said, we need to bring cattle and horses to town and have a stock show and celebrate what it is that we do, but also evaluate each other’s genetics. And we’re now worried that we’re going to lose electricity this weekend because of the weather that’s coming. I just gently remind everybody in 1906, there was no electricity there. I looked it up. There’s a portion of the mining area of original Denver that had generated some electricity for mining purposes. Rural Colorado did not get electricity until really into the 40s. And we’ve just become so accustomed to everything that we think we need in a minute’s notice. I hope we all take a moment, step back and say, how did we get to this point? And how do we better prepare ourselves if we don’t have these conveniences?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, absolutely. I was just thinking the other day that I need to do another show about living in the urban areas but being prepared for these different events that are occurring. So that’s a good point. We’re going to go to break. I’m talking with Trent Luce. He’s a sixth-generation rancher from Nebraska. He’s out at the National Western, and it is – It is so important that we celebrate our Western heritage, and they’re doing a great job on that out there. These discussions happen because of our sponsors, and our Second Amendment is already under attack from a legislative standpoint down at the Statehouse. That’s why the work of the Second Syndicate is so important.
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SPEAKER 11 :
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SPEAKER 04 :
Duck liver. It’s that simple. It’s duck liver. It is consumed around the world. Interestingly, on my Across the Pond this morning, I visited with Theresa Platt in France, as I do every Wednesday, and she was talking about foie gras. In fact, 20 years ago, I was engaged in a foie gras debate just like this in California, and then we moved to New York and had that debate and had those ballot initiatives. These animal rights organizations continue to do things to try to make food production more tough. And what they try to convince you of is that they are force-feeding these ducks in order to create a fatty liver. I’ve personally eaten foie gras in Chicago. That was another battle that I was in the middle of. Foy gras is not something that I desire on a regular basis, but people love it. People pay for it. They want to eat it. And if you understand the role or the natural habitat of a duck, what a duck does before migration is they force-feed themselves in order to acquire enough nutrition to get through this long migratory period. So farmers are actually replicating what a duck does naturally in a farm and domestic setting, and they try to use the emotional plea, and they don’t really care about ducks. Animal rights organizations of this state, of any state, this nation, they don’t care about animals. They care about the profits that come along as they try to create these emotional pleas about animals.
SPEAKER 11 :
So this is not a new battle, it sounds like. This has been occurring. And last year, they had the ballot questions regarding banning fur, which we had long discussions about how that could affect vendors at the National Western. And then also to try to close down a lamb processing plant in Denver. Both of those failed. But they’re back at it again, and it’s really, I think you hit on it, the big picture. What is this all really about? And I think that you said it’s really regarding food production, right? So, yeah, talk to me about that. I was just thinking one other thing about bugs, but we’ll talk about that in a minute.
SPEAKER 04 :
It’s really not as much about food production as it is using food production to pay for the public per profit. And what I mean by that, and we have numbers, and I can get you tax returns to verify this. There are five animal rights organizations that I keep track of each year. You know, they need to submit their 990s. Their 990s are their tax-exempt IRS forms, so that information is public information. And just to put it into context, these five organizations 10 years ago would have had annual revenues roughly at $700 million a year. 2024, because we don’t have 2025 data yet, 2024, these five animal rights organizations are reporting $1.4 billion in revenue at a time when we know That we’re moving into some economic instability, and we think there’s less money out there to give to causes, when in fact, it’s really not about getting money from the people. This is about laundering money in the global effort to do the same exact thing as you brought up with affordable housing. And I learned that in my recent fight against the CO2 pipeline, which you and I have talked about extensively. The same people fund the animal rights organizations that fund the concept, and I’m talking about basically globalists who want to control and want to make sure that you and I and everybody listening owns nothing. It’s about removing the ability to own property because animals are property, but they use big money to get it done.
SPEAKER 11 :
So Bill Gates and company is apparently they’re putting money into bug productions and encouraging people to at some point in time in the future to replace their their meat and dairy with bugs. But wouldn’t there in that case, wouldn’t there be a group that would pop up for the protection of bugs? Because I imagine when you kill a bug, there’s probably pain there as well, right, Trent Luce?
SPEAKER 04 :
There will not be, because this is being promoted by the same globalists who are funding the animal rights initiatives. They control the bug generation. Bill Gates has got a group in Washington that have have mastered this and put this whole thing together. It’s the same people who fund that your food should come from a laboratory, not a farm. So it isn’t about sentient beings, although they want you to believe that it is, and that’s what they want you to follow is this whole emotional plea about the sentient beings. Again, I had a discussion with Ingrid from Australia yesterday on Across the Pond. They’re now using the term sentient rivers. where these rivers are going in areas like the river has a mind and it’s going to a certain area. The river goes to where the natural flow is. But they’re using the term sentient so that they can have the emotional plea that you can’t control the river. We need the globalists to control the river. They don’t use that term, but I’m just cutting to the chase on what’s really happening. So it’s about control of the food supply and who’s going to control the consolidation more than it is about protecting the animals.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay. And this is a new word to me now, sentient. So explain to me how they’re using that word.
SPEAKER 04 :
So sentient has been the one word. By the way, this is perfect into your analogy and question about foie gras. The concept is that a sentient being is a thinking species that that actually does things as a reaction to emotional reaction or central it started with the central nervous system so if there’s a central nervous system the animal is going to feel pain and it’s going to try to avoid the pain so consequently we shouldn’t take their life and eat them this is how crazy this has gotten i can share with you and anybody can go find it it’s pretty easy to find there’s a university of michigan study that wanted to find out if trees and plants are sentient beings so they actually use taxpayer dollars to study whether or not if a lumberjack goes towards a tree with a chainsaw does the tree react and their research says that the tree actually does try to resist being cut down or harmed or trimmed we have spent u.s taxpayer money studying whether or not trees and plants are sentient beings
SPEAKER 11 :
Interesting. Okay, so, and it just happens, though, in our food production, the sentient animals are a great source of protein in our diets. And also, as one of our listeners mentioned, don’t forget dairy and eggs and all of that as well. 100%. So the big picture, though, is really it’s always control, isn’t it? Controlling our food supply.
SPEAKER 04 :
It doesn’t matter where we go. It always comes back to control. And by the way, I know you never like me to bring this up. One of the big proponents quietly of the animal rights and the globalists using the money is the Trump team. And Laura Trump has been an animal. She’s acquired 20 million dollars. personal wealth working with animal rights. And they just established this new animal rights initiative. It was Laura Trump in cooperation with Pam Bondi and Brooke Rollins and Bobby Kennedy. And they have rolled out where they are going to put an animal rights attorney in each state to help protect animals. and last week they’ve already had their first, and this only started three weeks ago, and last week they’ve already confiscated a group of dogs from a dog breeder in Texas, and those dogs were taken from a dog breeder in Texas and went to a big dog rescue in Florida, happens to be in West Palm Beach, Florida, and it just so happens that Laura Trump is on the board of where that place is. And this is happening right underneath our nose, and we don’t pay attention.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay, so I am just pulling this up. This Fox News, December 21, 2025, says Trump administration launches animal cruelty crackdown. Attorney General Pam Bondi announced designated prosecutors in every state to handle the cases. So, yeah, gosh, a little bit speechless.
SPEAKER 04 :
I got a question for you while you’re there. So that Fox News report had, you just named them, Pam Bondi, Brooke Rollins, Secretary of Agriculture, Laura Trump, Bobby Kennedy. Who in that mix has the lowest net worth?
SPEAKER 11 :
Bobby Kennedy?
SPEAKER 04 :
Bobby Kennedy. Great answer. $14 million. $14 million. Pam Bondi, $18 million. She’s the attorney general. She and Laura Trump teamed up to eliminate Greyhound Racing in Florida. I know that because I was involved in that fight as well, which we lost. At that time, neither one of them had much measurable wealth. Since that time, they both have accumulated, one of them $18 million, the other one $20 million. And by the way, that was all done through lobbying of special interest groups, particularly in the animal rights world. And the person has the most wealth? Well, Brooke Rollins’ personal wealth, the USDA Secretary of Agriculture, is $5 million, but she’s married to Mark Rollins, who has a net worth of $28 million lobbying on behalf of the oil industry. And so here you have three people who have accumulated a tremendous amount of wealth doing what? Lobbying for special interest in Washington, D.C. So Brooke Rollins, with her and her husband, Mark, have a net worth of $33 million, and that’s why I struggle so much with all of the people in D.C., all parties, because they accumulate wealth in ways that they cannot relate to the everyday people trying to find a way to make a small business or just even keep the family intact.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay, well, we’re going to continue the discussion regarding, it just seems like the everyday American is on the platter for, and people just want to try to keep it together. And, of course, we also see, I’m going to ask you about all of these ICE protests and what you think about that when we come back. We’re talking with Trent Luce. He is a sixth-generation rancher from Nebraska, and we have these discussions because of our sponsors. And if you’ve been injured, you’ll want to talk with John Bozen and Bozen Law.
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SPEAKER 04 :
My thought is that I haven’t been there, so I don’t really know. And I’ll tell you why I think that. In 2016, I was invited to emcee an event in Harney County, Oregon, which got a lot of publicity and people heard about it. Dwight and Stephen Hammond were wrongfully put in prison for five years because they were managing the BLM land, Bureau of Land Management land, correctly. I don’t want to go into great details about that. I’m willing to, but I don’t for time’s sake. I was asked to moderate a town hall meeting in which there were 400 people present. And I estimate that 200 people were local individuals who were speaking about what was going on as Ammon and Ryan Bundy and LaVoy Finicum with 12 other people that occupied Malheur National Wildlife Refuge. And they were armed. And they said, we’re going to occupy this federal facility until the Hammonds are rightfully released. So there was a lot of tension, a lot of animosity. And as the emcee, my job was to make sure that the conversation was constructive and that nobody was disrespectful and that everybody had a chance to say what they want. So at the end of the evening, with 400 people present and the discussion lasting in excess of three hours, Every single person who talked said, I’m not really worried about what the Bundys are doing at Malheur National Wildlife Refuge. I’m mad and concerned about what these federal agents have done to our town. They’re terrorizing our children. They’re setting up shops across from the schools. They had to cancel school. School is not taking in session. They blame the occupiers when, in fact, it was the federal government that was intimidating everybody. So that’s what came out of that meeting. And I couldn’t wait because in that meeting, the other 200 people were every press organization you can name from not only the United States but around the world. And so I couldn’t wait until the next morning. I remember getting my laptop out, looking, and I wanted to see this account report of how the people of Burns, Oregon had spoken, and it wasn’t the Bundys that they’re worried about. It was the federal government and these agents. I opened my computer, I just did a search for that particular scenario, and I could not believe what I was reading that these accounts said happened at the meeting the night before that I was the emcee for. It was like the articles had all been written before the meeting took place. Not one story, not one, said that the locals were upset and concerned about the federal agents. I actually had made friends with one of the reporters. I got ahold of him and I said, Hey dude, this isn’t what happened last night. Why did your story come out that way? He said to me, I submitted it and they completely changed it. So because of my history and that particular situation and other events that are not nearly as highly publicized, I don’t know what’s happening because I’m not there. I know that we have a constitution. I know there’s a legal way to come into this country. I know that we have government that have enabled people to come into this country illegally, and we need to fix that. How do we fix that? I’m pretty sure we don’t fix that by taking people’s lives who are legal citizens trying to hold the federal government accountable. So it’s very complex, and I can’t have an opinion beyond that because of my personal experiences.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay. What about people that are here illegally? I’ve said that if people are here illegally and they’re criminals and committing crimes, they need to be deported back to their country of origin. If people are here to defraud us, then they need to be sent back to their country of origin. And if people are coming here for… government assistance, to be on government assistance, which that means that’s money that’s being taken from everyday hardworking Americans to support people that have come here illegally. They need to be deported as well. And under the Biden Harris administration, we had open borders where people were welcomed to the United States. And many of these NGOs and nongovernmental organizations were paid by the government to go out and I would say recruit, get these caravans to come up to America. And so we had all of this illegal immigration. And so somehow we’ve got to do something to fix that. And one of the first things is we’re not seeing these caravans of illegals coming across the border, which I think is really important, Trent Luce.
SPEAKER 04 :
I agree with everything you said. I don’t know that they’re not coming across. What you said is you’re not seeing it. Here’s what I know. In 2009, I went to Douglas, Arizona, because my friend Rob Krenz was murdered on his own ranch by an illegal crossing the border at Nogales, Arizona. I visited with Border Patrol in my couple of days down there. I stayed on the border seven miles from the border that night. I could hear people illegally going by that house all night because the dogs were barking at all of them. And when I talked to the Border Patrol agents in 2009, I said, why don’t you do a better job catching these people? And he said to me, we catch them, we turn them over, and 25% of the illegals we catch in 2009 already have a felony record in the United States. So while we agree on what needs to happen by simply catching them and returning them to the country of origin, how do we prevent them from coming back?
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, it seems like that is something the Trump administration is trying to do. So the implication is that there might still be caravans coming up across the border. I haven’t seen it. I’m not down there, so I don’t know for sure. But it sure seems like that if that was the case that we would, well, it seems like we would have reports on that, Trent Luce.
SPEAKER 04 :
You and I, neither one trusts media accounts at all. You can follow a veteran, Michael Yan, who makes a living on the border, and I believe he would tell you the opposite is true. We’re not coming across in the same numbers. We’re not incentivizing them. In no way, shape, or form do I believe they’re not coming across, because they were coming across before anyone was paying attention.
SPEAKER 11 :
True. That’s true. But I don’t… Well, no. Because when I was on the board of Lutheran… Yeah, when I was on the board of Lutheran Family Services, and gosh, I want to say that was the early 2000s, what I was seeing with refugee resettlement is bringing people… here to America. And the first thing that they were doing was putting them on government assistance. And I remember asking the question, can we track and see how these refugees are doing, getting off of government assistance and going after their American dream? And what I was told was that there were privacy issues and that, no, we could not track them. So this whole system is… is, it’s broken because we have people, well, we get back to the incentives, and that is all the government money. And whatever industry, whatever subject it is, wherever there’s a bunch of government money, whether or not it’s tax credits, subsidies, whatever it is, then we are opening ourselves up to all kinds of issues. Trent Luce, we’ve got about a minute left. How would you like to wrap this up?
SPEAKER 04 :
I’m going to wrap up with some good news, and that is, again, the National Western, but it ties into this conversation because I have multiple friends who are staying in hotels that when you and I were doing our little reconnaissance investigation, we’re housing those illegal immigrants two and three years ago. Their hotels are back functioning, and that is an indication of progress. So kudos to the people that made that happen.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay. Most definitely. So Trent Luce, I’m going to be out at the National Western later today. Perhaps we can get connected.
SPEAKER 04 :
Give me a ring.
SPEAKER 11 :
I’ll do it. So Trent Luce, have a great day. We’ll talk soon.
SPEAKER 04 :
Thanks, Kim.
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