Join us for an engaging episode of Classic Christianity Radio as Bob George welcomes listeners from across America to discuss their faith-related questions and concerns. We delve into a variety of topics ranging from theological interpretation to personal challenges, providing a platform for real answers to life’s pressing questions. This episode features lively discussions on concepts like the identification of Jesus as the second Adam, the role of Mary in religious narratives, and the discernment of Biblical truths against prevalent doctrines.
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SPEAKER 04 :
We’re going to go to Sacramento, California. Let’s go on KCBC. Larry, you’re on the air.
SPEAKER 03 :
I surrender all faith. There you go. Well, I’m glad you… Is that a good hymn to write?
SPEAKER 04 :
I think that’s a pretty good one. But don’t quit your day job in regard to that singing, okay? Well, I’ve already quit it.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, Larry. So I’m just… You know, I was listening to a Catholic channel on AM, and they were referring to Christ is the second Adam, and I can understand that. I’ve already studied that part. But now they consider Mary the second Eve. And that sort of troubled me, that people would be listening to such nonsense. And I don’t… I just don’t want people… I’m trying to lead people to your station and your talk show and everything because you know the way, the truth, and the life. What more can I do? I can just pray about it. I’m still in a difficult position, but the Lord is helping me understand why I’m in this difficult position today. and how he can lead me through this. He’s not waiting for me on the outside, but he’s carrying me through where I’m at. I just know that through listening to people to people, I’ve only been listening for about four years now. I was amazed how I come to find that you’ve been on for such a long time. And sometimes I feel discouraged that it took so long for me to find people with people. But it’s all in God’s timing and it’s his seasons, you know. And I just want to, you know, just really, you know, just say that I’m blessed by your show. And I just wish you guys would have some more air time. So could you handle some more airtime, Bob?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, we can always handle the airtime, Larry. But the stations are normally, their programming is all, uh… filled up and it’s very difficult to get additional airtime on most stations especially a station that is popular and uh… so we just have to do with what we can but as a sad thing of trying to talking about jesus being the second adam it talks about the scripture that he adam was a type of jesus but adam was the first man ever created alive spiritually And Jesus was the first man to ever be born alive spiritually. No one except Jesus was born alive spiritually. That’s why his virgin birth is not up for grabs. Adam was not born. He was created. The second Adam, Jesus, was born. Adam was born alive spiritually, and he chose death. Jesus was born alive spiritually and chose to become death for us. Right. And then to put Eve in a second, or Mary in that category. Of course, the emphasis of Mary, and I’m not banging the Catholics, but people are people. But what they believe at the top… It’s just to me unbelievable as to how they could have made Mary into some kind of an idol. It’s like an idol worship because there’s nothing mentioned about her in the Bible except the fact that she was the mother of Mary and also the mother of many other children. after she had Jesus. And that’s all it’s ever mentioned. But they’ve made her into a co-redemptrix as Jesus and all kinds of things. So I don’t know. You’re not going to stop that, Larry. People who want to be deceived will be deceived. And that is deceitful teaching. And I have no qualms at all of saying that. And I can prove that out of the Bible.
SPEAKER 03 :
Time for a break. Truth against error. So I was just going to, I’m reading a good book. It’s called The Indestructible Jews. And I’m learning a lot more about the Judaism. And I’d like, I’m just, I think it would do you some, I mean, it would be good meat for you. And I can’t remember the guy’s name that wrote it. Because I just started reading it. And it’s really, it’s captivating. And it has a lot of history in it.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, I’ll tell you, when we get, we’ll put you on hold, Larry, and you can give that to our operator, and we’ll see if we want to pass that on, okay?
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All right. Goodbye.
SPEAKER 04 :
All right, brother. God bless you, Larry. Appreciate your call. Bye-bye. Let’s go down to Chatworth, California, listening on KBRIGHT. Victor, you’re on the air.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, hi, Bob and Bob. How are you guys doing?
SPEAKER 04 :
Doing good. Thank you.
SPEAKER 07 :
Very good, sir. I’d like to ask you a question, see if I can make myself clear on this. What do you think about parallel dimensions? Like if I turn right today, is there somebody else in the universe somewhere in a different space and time that will go left? What do you think about all that? Mostly that’s like in Star Trek, you know, those sci-fi movies.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, what do you think about that?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, fortunately, my mind has been very restful on those kind of subjects. I’ve never thought about it once, and I’ve got to tell you something. I’ll probably never think about it again. No, I don’t spend an ounce of time listening to that nonsense. I’ll tell you what, Victor. Think for a moment. How would you like to live in a world that you did not have a Bible that told you truth and who wrote it? Think about that. You have oral tradition. People say, okay, who told you that? Well, old Bill did. Well, let’s go to old Bill. Bill, who told you that? Well, old Gene did. Well, let’s go to Gene. Who told you that? And you’re going to go back to the point and say, I don’t remember who told me that. But when something is written down, I know who wrote the book of Matthew. I know who wrote Mark. I know who wrote John. I know who wrote Romans. I know who wrote all of those people. And they wrote it down for eternity. And when we have in our hands the Bible that is truth given by the Holy Spirit of God to these people, I know that I have in my hand truth, and I’m able to go to truth from God, not truth from man, truth from God. Now, in this world, we have all kinds of error, do we not, just like you’re talking about, that is perpetuated and talk, you know, perpetuated as if it’s truth itself. How do I know whether it’s truth or not? By seeing, does it match up with the Bible? And if it doesn’t, it’s not truth. It’s like in a Bible where it says in the end time, people are going to be saying, Jesus is out here. Jesus is out here. Don’t go. He isn’t there. Next time that people see Jesus, he’ll be coming in the clouds, and the whole world will see him at one time. So don’t ever let somebody say that he moved to America, was over here in America, as the Mormons believe, or that he is out here in this place or over here. He wasn’t there. I’m sorry. The Bible says don’t go. He’s not there. So, Victor, I can’t hear you at all. Okay. No, you’re okay now.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, so, well, thank you. That was pretty much what I just want to ask you what was on your mind regarding that, but now that you told me that you don’t think about that kind of stuff.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, I’m not. My mind, I think I’ve somewhat got a limited capacity of what I can absorb, and I’m not going to fill it up with that kind of stuff.
SPEAKER 07 :
But you pretty much reassured me about the Holy Spirit, you know. I’d rather listen to the Holy Spirit than man.
SPEAKER 04 :
I would, too. I would, too, brother. I think we’re on safer ground there.
SPEAKER 07 :
Absolutely. Thank you, Bob.
SPEAKER 04 :
All right, my friend. Thanks, Victor. God bless you, pal. Bye-bye. This is a nice call. Yeah. Grand Rapids, Michigan. Let’s go on WFUR. Don, you’re on the air.
SPEAKER 08 :
Hi, Brother Bob. I was going to ask what you believe. Tell me if you believe this statement. God foreknows what will be because he has decreed what shall be. It is therefore a reversing of the order of Scripture, a putting of the cart before the horse to affirm… that God elects because he foreknows people. The truth is he foreknows because he has elected. This removes the ground or cause of election from outside the creature and plays it in God’s own sovereign will. God purposed himself to elect a certain people.
SPEAKER 04 :
Hey, Don, hold on a minute. Hold on a minute.
SPEAKER 08 :
I know what you guys believe. Well, then if you know what we believe, then do you agree?
SPEAKER 04 :
Do you agree with it?
SPEAKER 08 :
I agree. I can tell you how I got saved.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, I know how you got saved. You got saved by Jesus.
SPEAKER 08 :
Exactly. But I never prayed no sinner’s prayer.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, that doesn’t make any difference. You don’t get saved by praying a prayer. You get prayer by faith.
SPEAKER 08 :
Here’s what the thing is.
SPEAKER 04 :
Don, hold on a minute. If you’re trying to promote a foreknowledge and you’re trying to promote predestination as anything except the Jew and the Gentile, which is clear in the nose on your face if you have one. The Jew and the Gentile. It has got to do with the foreknowledge, and it has to do with election. Election doesn’t have anything to do with yous and mes. It has to do with a Jew and a Gentile. Those he foreknew, he predestined to become conformed into the image of Christ. And it’s a mystery that was in the heart of God and was revealed to the apostle Paul. And that mystery is the mystery of godliness. And it is the fact that God foreknew that the Gentiles, who were total heathenistic, you were a total heathen in God’s sight, could come to Christ the same way that the Jews who were trying to find righteousness, the obedience to the law, couldn’t do it, and the Gentiles who did not pursue it obtained it. And all of that is involved in foreknowledge. All of it is involved in election, and all of it is involved in predestination. Read the book of Ephesians. With that in mind, it will become as clear as a bell to you instead of this nonsensical doctrine of Calvinism that comes in and says, not all of it, but comes in and says that God only… save some people. That is one cruel God that has nothing at all to do with the God that I know. And we’re not going to… Gotta go, brother. Don’t want to… To be real honest with you, I don’t even like arguing it. It is too nonsensical. As far as I’m concerned, I’ve studied those things. It does not make an ounce of sense, and the Bible does. Your teachings and what you continually proclaim is this professor said this. You read this deal. That isn’t out of the Bible. It’s some kind of a nonsensical statement of somebody trying to sound intellectual. You didn’t read out of the Bible. You read some theologian’s viewpoint and was now setting out to justify that viewpoint. Why don’t you ever quote the Bible? I can never get you guys to ever quote the Bible. It’s always, doctor this said this, doctor this said that. I don’t care what doctor, I don’t care what Calvin said. Who was Calvin? If Calvin had anything to say, learn it from Paul. And do you think Paul would say, go out, guys, and become a Paulinist? Come on, you’re a follower of man instead of God.
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We’re going to go to Gene in Scottsdale, Pennsylvania, listening on WWNL. I almost said Scottsdale, Arizona there, but Pennsylvania. Gene, you’re on the air.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, okay, Bob. Good afternoon. How are you doing?
SPEAKER 04 :
Doing good. Thank you, brother.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay. I recently had a cousin of mine visiting, and she’s a Jehovah’s Witness. And she was talking to me, and I just didn’t know how to… to respond to her or to, you know, try to talk with her. And she was asking what I thought of the Jehovah’s Witnesses. And I said I wasn’t, I didn’t want to tell her I thought it was a cult. But anyway, how do you respond to a person like that when, what do I got to say?
SPEAKER 04 :
That you’re a cult. Okay. That’s what I’d say. I don’t know why you’d be embarrassed to say it’s a cult when it’s a cult.
SPEAKER 05 :
I didn’t feel like I really understood it that well.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, if a person denies the deity of Christ, that’s a cult, isn’t it?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, yes.
SPEAKER 04 :
And so to deny that Christ Jesus is who he claimed to be and who the apostles claimed to be and who you and I hopefully know him to be, is God, and they’re claiming that he is not God. They rewrote their own dumb Bible to say in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a God. That’s not in the Greek language. But they just wrote it themselves because it’s a cult. And the problem is, even if that was true, why now they’ve negated the fact that they believe there’s only one God, none before and none after, because if he’s a God, then there’s a big God and a little God. How are you going to have that? And so everything that they teach is nonsense. They deny the deity of Christ. They have salvation different than what we know it to be true. I’ve taken people to the last chapter of Revelation many times, Jehovah’s Witnesses, where it names Jesus as God. And they don’t know what to do with that. I guess they’re not smart enough to take that out of their Bible yet. But one of these days, they’ll probably take that out. But it absolutely, it literally identifies Jesus as Jehovah God, period, according to their Bible.
SPEAKER 05 :
That’s what she was saying. She was saying what? Well, that Jesus was the Son of God, that he wasn’t God.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, well, then there’s where they’re wrong. Jesus identified himself as God.
SPEAKER 05 :
I kept trying to tell her not to be deceived and don’t let anybody deceive you and make sure that your salvation is secure. Because I just didn’t know how to go into the nice way you put it there and the way you had the knowledge there.
SPEAKER 04 :
That’s what I need to… I’m not so sure my way is very nice, but it is at least blunt. It’s a way. In the 22nd chapter of Revelation… All the way through the scriptures, you can go and to read what it says. Behold, I’m coming soon. I am the Alpha and Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end. You can go through. If you just look it up enough, that statement is made all the way through the book of Revelation. It says Jehovah God. So I ask the question, okay, who’s Jehovah God? Well, he’s the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end, says Jehovah God. So Jehovah God. is the Alpha, the Omega, the first and last, the beginning and the end. And then it says, Blessed are those who wash in their robes that they may have the right to the tree of life and go through the gates into the city. Outside are dogs who practice magic arcs, the sexually immoral, the murderers, idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices falsehood. I, Jesus. Now, I just got through saying that Jehovah God is the Alpha and Omega, first and last, beginning and end. And then it says, I, Jesus. So it identifies who the Alpha and Omega, the first and last, the beginning and the end is. I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you the testimony for the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David and the bright morning star.
SPEAKER 05 :
Amen.
SPEAKER 04 :
And so if you can’t, you know, believe any other way, that one ought to do it. But I put that in front of people’s face and they don’t understand it.
SPEAKER 05 :
I’m going to have to use that then because I… Somehow she’s deceived, and I said, are you sure of what you’re doing here now and everything? And she said, yes, I am. So she’s brainwashed or something in whatever they do to them.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, I’ll tell you what they do. They’re better taught than we are.
SPEAKER 05 :
So that must be it.
SPEAKER 04 :
In other words, now they’re not taught in the whole Bible, but they’re taught in what they’re to believe. And there’s the problem. They can explain it, and we can’t. We ought to be more knowledgeable. of what salvation is than they’re knowledgeable of what it isn’t.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, that’s what I need right there.
SPEAKER 04 :
I would get a hold of a book that we have called The Scriptural Journey to Discover the Grace of God. It’s got all the passages of Scripture in it in regard to deity of Christ, the Word of God, new and old covenant, forgiveness, new life in Christ. It’s got all those scriptures that you can refer to when you’re in that kind of a jam. I would just, if that had been in my case, I would have just picked up that book and started quoting scriptures to them.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay, I’ll be doing that.
SPEAKER 04 :
I’d get a hold of that book and keep it in your Bible for reference. And therefore, if you’re not good at identifying where passages are, you can just go into the book and find the passages.
SPEAKER 05 :
That’s what I need. Okay, that sounds good.
SPEAKER 04 :
I’ll put you on hold and let her operate and let you know how to pick that up. Okay, Gene? Okay, thanks, Bob.
SPEAKER 05 :
God bless you, my friend. God bless you. Thank you. Bye-bye.
SPEAKER 04 :
Let’s go to Lubbock, Texas. Let’s go on KJAC. LaTanya, LaTanya, you’re on the air.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yes. I hope that you can give me some answers for this. I’m really confused, and I just don’t know what to do. My mother listened to you guys all the time, and she found all of her answers for you, and she never had to call because whenever she listened, somebody with the same question would call, and y’all would give the answers. Well, my mother has recently passed away. When she did, my uncle… Me and my two brothers are her only legal heirs, and my uncle decides that he wants to step in and take care of all the financial things as far as the burial and all that. Well, she never wanted to be buried. She wanted to be cremated. So my uncle sets up the memorial services where everybody can go and be the body. She did not want that, and we didn’t want that for her either. We just wanted to give her her wishes. Well, my mom had an estate. or she inherited her husband’s estate who passed away, and there’s about, I’m going to say, $6,000 in an account, and my uncle is trying to get his hands on that. And me and my kids lived with my mom for years, and she’s gone now, and I can’t afford to stay in the house that I’m in, and I’m having to move out. And my family is telling me that I need to just step up. My uncle, my great-uncle, her uncle has paid for everything, and says not to worry about paying him back and the uncle that told me that he would take care of all the financial issues is trying to get his hands on this money and does not care it seems like that me and my kids are about to be homeless with no way nowhere to go yeah but you need to you need to go to an attorney and you need to find an attorney that will um they have legal aid here and legal aid will help me have legal aid here?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, you need to do that because, again, there’s nothing wrong with when you have somebody that is trying to, in essence, rob you, the daughter, of the rightful inheritance, and someone is trying to do that, why then that becomes a decision for the court, and let them make that decision so that you don’t have to. And I would do that as fast as possible.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yes, see, this is where I’m confused. My mom always told me the Bible says not to sue our brothers.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, it talks about not to do that with disputable matters. This is not a disputable matter. This is a matter of someone trying to steal your inheritance. So that’s not a disputable matter. Yeah.
SPEAKER 02 :
Okay, so then it’s okay.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, absolutely. In fact, when you have someone who is intentionally trying to abscond the money that is obviously due to you from your mom, then you need to get an attorney on that and try to get one, like you say, that will help you and do it as quickly as possible so that that wedge that gets between you and the uncle doesn’t drive any deeper than what it is. Okay, and that’s what I would do with that. But as far as your mom is concerned, Tanya, you know, I look at those type of things, and you say your mom doesn’t know whether she was cremated or whether she was buried, whether people came by the casket where she did, and she didn’t know any of that stuff. So that’s all just saying, well, this is what she wanted. Well, okay, but that isn’t the way it happened. So believe me, she’s not concerned about it. But you need to be concerned about the other. Hope that helps, and you stay in touch, okay?
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Okay.
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We’re going to go to Steve in Atlanta, Georgia, listening on WGUN. Steve, you’re on the air.
SPEAKER 06 :
Hey, Bob. How are you all tonight?
SPEAKER 04 :
Doing good. Fine. Thank you.
SPEAKER 06 :
Good. I had a question. I know I don’t have much time, so I’ll make this quick. I heard you speak a while back on James 5, 13, I think, through 18. You spoke on this as being a brother, I think, out of fellowship versus someone that is actually physically sick. Is that right? Yes.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, there isn’t anything in the Bible, Steve, about being in and out of fellowship, contrary to what we’re taught. The word fellowship in the Bible is you’re either in the fellowship saved or out of the fellowship lost. And so fellowship, in and out of fellowship, is not a biblical teaching.
SPEAKER 06 :
I’m sorry, I may have misled you with my question.
SPEAKER 04 :
That’s no problem. What you have here, if you go over to chapter 4 in James, you have… People involved in fights and quarrels among people within the body of Christ. And he says, don’t they come from the desires that battle within you? You want something, but you don’t get it. You kill and you covet, but you can’t have what you want. You quarrel and fight. You don’t have because you don’t ask God. And when you do ask, you don’t receive because you ask with the wrong motives that you may spend what you get on your own pleasures. He says you’re an adulterous people. Don’t you know what friendship with the world is? Hatred toward God. And anyone who chooses to be a friend of the world becomes an enemy of God. Or do you think the scripture says without reason that the spirit that he caused to live in us envies intensely? But he gives us more grace. And it goes on and on. What was taking place here in the church of Jerusalem, which is where James was a pastor, was feuding and fighting and fussing. It would be like a church split today, Steve. And if you’ve ever been through a church split and gone through that, you have people who get sick, not only emotionally, but they get sick physically. And that’s what’s taking place here in the Church of Jerusalem. So he’s talking about the fact, are you sick? He should call the elders of the church and pray over him, anointing with oil in the name of the Lord. And the prayer offered in faith will make the sick person well, and the Lord will raise him up. If he’s sinned, he’ll be forgiven. And therefore, now there’s the therefore. If he’s sinned, he will be forgiven. By who? Therefore, confess your sins to each other. So the conflict is between each other. And so if he confesses his sins to one another, then he says that you’ll be healed of the rift that is between one another. And so this is really an abonishment for where you’re having these disagreements and church splits. is to realize that this is not of God, come together, confess your sins one to another, and to therefore to be healed of the rift that is between you, and in some instances, making you as sick as a dog. And so it’s very, very practical instruction. And like I say, if anyone’s ever been through a church split, they’ll know full well what all that’s like.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
Hey, I appreciate it, Bob. Y’all have a great evening.
SPEAKER 04 :
You’re welcome, Steve. Thanks for your call, brother.
SPEAKER 01 :
All right. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Until next time, walk in faith, be good to one another, and praise the Lord. Amen.
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