Welcome to the Kim Monson Show podcast. Kim Monson is your host. Greenland and Trump are in the news. Col. Bill Rutledge (Ret. USAF) explains that he was stationed in Greenland in 1956 and notes the importance of Greenland for national defense. Col. Rutledge shares details about Greenland that you probably aren’t hearing anyplace else. Tina Peters’ attorney John Case discusses Tina’s appeal and the recent attack on her at La Vista Prison. We’ll talk with show sponsors Karen Gordey with Radiant Painting and Lighting and RE/MAX Realtor Karen Levine. ————————————————————————————– The Kim Monson Show airs on KLZ 560
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Indeed. Let’s have a conversation. And welcome to The Kim Monson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You eat your treasured, your valued, you have purpose. Today, strive for excellence. Take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. Thank you to the team. That’s Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, Amanda, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Thursday, Producer Joe. Happy Thursday, Kim. And big day today. Tonight is the legislative kickoff with the Colorado Union of Taxpayers. That is at CADA, which is the Colorado Automobile Dealers Association. That is located at 290 East Spear. And we would love to have you join us. Tickets are $20. And you can purchase those by going to coloradotaxpayer.org. And a number of the legislators will be there. We’ll be awarding our taxpayer guardian and warriors and champion their awards. And we would love to have you join us. 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However, if you read the fine print, the additional, a lot of money can go into the general fund, and their goal is to, again, I have this in air quotes, fill the The gap of I think it’s nearly $850 million in the budget. What they need to do is cut spending. That is the bottom line. So that’s one of the things that Colorado taxpayers, Union of Taxpayers does is we watch things regarding TABOR, Colorado’s Taxpayers Bill of Rights. and property rights and parental rights, family rights in school choice. And again, that website is coloradotaxpayer.org. Love to have you tonight. We’ve got quite a few people that are going to be there, so you’ll get to mix and mingle and meet others, and we’d love to have you join us. Colorado Union of Taxpayers is nonpartisan. We look at these issues on foundational principles. And when you see these folks, my fellow board members, be sure and say thank you to them. 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That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Make sure you are signed up for our weekly email newsletter that goes out on Sundays. That way you will get first look at all of our upcoming guests as well as our most recent essays. You can email me at Kim at Kim Monson. That’s M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. And you can text me at 720-605-0647. I do want to hear from you. And I thank all of you who support us because we are an independent voice as we search for truth and clarity on these issues that are facing us. And remember, it’s never compassionate to take other people’s stuff, whether or not it’s their rights, their freedom, livelihood, opportunity, childhoods, or lives via force. Force can be a weapon, but it can be unpredictable in excess of taxation, fees, fear, coercion, government-induced inflation, and the agenda of the world economic forum and globalist elites. And we’re seeing this play out all the way into municipal governments. When you are looking at these big box governments, a massive apartment buildings and apartment complexes this is government social engineering this is world economic forum stuff it is playing out in the municipal level and the reason that they are building all this is because there is policy and incentives to make all that happen otherwise developers would not be doing that they’re being encouraged by policy and and basically money tax incentives And we’ve got to get this turned around. We need to have a free, fair, honest, and transparent markets. And we’ve got to get this turned around. That’s why we do this show, is so that we can focus on these issues. And we’ll mention the people pushing the issues, but we stay out of all the personality stuff. And remember, if something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And we look at these issues through this lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. Our word of the day is evanescent. It’s E-V-A-N-E-S-C-E-N-T. And first definition could be vanishing, fleeting, fading away. And number two, tending to be imperceptible. And if we do not stand at this particular point in time, This great American idea will be evanescent. And so we have a great challenge. And we were made for this moment. And we’re here by divine appointment. So let’s see. Next thing, wanted to mention our quote of the day. And this is from the Viking Herald. And I chose it because we’ll be talking with Colonel Bill Rutledge regarding Greenland. as our featured guest in this hour. And Greenland was drawn into the Viking Age and settled by Norse Vikings in the late 980s. Their presence there lasting until the 15th century. Despite its ice-riddled geography, the Norse managed to carve out a living for themselves in these unforgiving lands by seeking out verdant pockets along the southwestern coast, founding both the so-called Eastern Settlement, which is located the southwest of Greenland, and the western settlement. And this is from the Viking, oh, that’s from worldhistory.org. And the Viking Herald, this is the quote, and it says, “…in many battles and wars, Viking warriors often were outnumbered and faced advanced militaries, yet their fierce battling nature often won the day.” And that is why we can take heart from this. So this is their quote. It says, oftentimes it is not the numbers that win the victory, but those that charge forward with the most vigor. And that is our quote of the day. And then the bill of the day that I selected, and this is from Cut Engaged. And again, go to the website. You can make your voice heard in about two minutes on these different issues. We have three bills this week at Cut Engaged. Use the tool. It’s wonderful. But this is Senate Bill 26001. It’s Workforce Housing and Housing Tax Credit. And the sponsors are Senator Dylan Roberts, Representative Andrew Boesenecker, and both Democrats and Representative Chris Richardson. And Chris is one of our CUT awardees this evening, and we’re excited about that. However, CUT does not like this particular bill. And let me tell you why. It is because, and I’m going to read this directly from our cut engaged, is the bill takes a county housing subsidy law and broadens its application and funding sources. The bill allows funding to subsidize workforce housing, I have that in air quotes, whatever that means, in addition to the previous menu of categories. The bill adds ad valorem sources, especially property taxes, to broaden its list of resources. The bill further gives the county power to distribute tax incentives to persons who have no financial interest in the housing. We object to the use of our property taxes to fund property development for others. The resulting development will likely pay no or reduce property tax, thereby increasing the burden on other taxpayers. The authorization to give away tax incentives provides an opportunity for unethical payouts. And that is Senate Bill 26001. And cut is a no on that particular bill. And I’m going to bet, I’m going to put her on the spot. And that is one of my great sponsors, Karen Gorday with Radiant Painting and Lighting. And ask her what she thinks about Senate Bill 26001 as I’m reading this. Karen Gorday, welcome to the show. Good morning, Kim. How are you? I am well. What do you think about this? You have been in the fire on these kinds of issues.
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I think they have lost their minds.
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What do you really think, Karen?
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That’s what I really think. That’s what you get when you put me on the spot, Kim.
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I’m glad about that. Because you have been watching… This increased density, and I mentioned just a few moments ago, I was driving down South Broadway in Centennial, and I looked off to the left at Dry Creek, and there is this massive, multi-density, building complex they they look like soviet block apartment buildings to me and it’s happening because of government policy at the state and the local level the county levels as well but it’s because there’s money involved and we you see this thing on the senate bill 001 that there can be, what do we say here, tax incentives and not even have an interest in the project, I agree with you, they’re out of their minds. Yes, 100%. So let’s talk just a little bit about Lakewood and these petitions. Well, you were concerned about whether or not there’s going to be a special election regarding the, is it zoning or density? It’s the rewrite. What is it exactly?
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It’s the rewriting of the zoning codes. So they split the zoning codes into four separate ordinances and the citizens ran four separate referendums and they were successful on all four. And Monday night, the Lakewood City Council had public comments. I will tell you the meeting was five hours, but it’s because of what was on the agenda prior to zoning. And so public comment did not start on zoning until right around 11 p.m., where half the people had already left. The short story is that they voted to go to special election and the election will be on April 7th. And we are trying to get clarification on ballot language because, you know, They’re famous for shenanigans around ballot language. And our saving grace is that our charter clearly states what the ballot language should be. And I mentioned that in my public comment on Monday night. So more to come. But there’s a special election in Lakewood on April 7th.
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Okay. Well, congratulations on that, Karen. The other thing, you just mentioned five hours for a meeting, and that is difficult as we are entrepreneurs in our businesses to watch what government is doing. Of course, we’re doing that at the state level with Colorado Union taxpayers. It takes an enormous amount of time, but we’ve got to do it right now, Karen. But let’s talk about your business because we’ve got to make sure that we are growing our business as well. And Radiant Painting and Lighting, what sets you apart from other companies out there?
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I think it’s the personal touch and the relationships that we build along the way. And so it’s almost like we handhold the customers through the process versus – Just having a bunch of forms and handing it off from one department to the other. It’s the hand-holding. Yesterday, I took a call from a customer. We’re not painting until… the end of February. And, um, she just called to say that she has her money in a trust and she was so excited because her trust just approved her painting and she’s finally getting her house painted. Um, and she just wanted to chit chat for five to 10 minutes. And that’s what it’s about. It’s not rush people off the phone, rush them through the project. It’s not just another transaction. It’s really helping people, um, be comfortable with the services and that personal touch. That’s very hard to find in anything anymore.
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Well, and that is true, but that’s, I think, people, many people hunger for relationships, working with people that they can trust. And here at the Kim Monson Show, we’re the same way. We focus on relationships, and that’s why I so appreciate your sponsorship and partnership of the show, Karen Gorday. How can people reach you? And spring is right around the corner, so to start to get the processes going regarding outdoor painting.
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They can go to our website, which is www.paintwithradiant.com. And, yes, we do at the front have a form they can fill out, but that’s just so we can gather all their information, your phone number, address, et cetera, because it’s easier for them to type it, and then it goes right into our system, and then we reach out to them. So www.paintwithradiant.com.
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Okay. Well, Karen Gorday, congratulations regarding the special election in Lakewood. I know that you’ve worked diligently on that with others as well. And also paintwithradiant.com. We’ll talk with you next week and have a great day. Okay, sounds good. And let’s see, a couple of things before we go to break. Big news item. We had Molly Lamar on yesterday regarding this toxic environment in Cherry Creek. And this just came across the wire within the last few hours. Cherry Creek superintendent resigns and announced his retirement following a Denver 7 investigation. and it says he told principals and staff that he will retire. Now, that means he’s probably still going to be making big bank. Hey, I also want to let you know, as Molly was on the line yesterday, I was trying to navigate Open the Books to get the information on how much the superintendent and his wife, who’s head of HR at Cherry Creek, make. And I couldn’t find it. I opened the books. And so I reached out to Rachel O’Brien via text. And she said that they have asked for it. And Cherry Creek School District said that they would charge them a lot of money. to provide that information. And so they have been very, Cherry Creek has been very uncooperative regarding that. So stay tuned. This is going to be very interesting about all that’s going on with that. But as you know, Hooters Restaurants is a great sponsor of the show. They have locations in Loveland, Westminster and in Aurora. And, of course, the Super Bowl is right around the corner, so fun place to get together to watch the Super Bowl and really appreciate their sponsorship of both the Kim Monson Show and America’s Veterans Stories. And then Roger Mangan and his team are amazing, and they want you to feel safe and well-served and to understand your insurance coverage. And their office will respond to your call or text 24 hours a day. So for that 24-hour peace of mind, call Roger Mangan at 303-795-8855. Like a good neighbor, the Roger Mangan team is there.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. And if you have big dreams for your future but you’re not quite sure how to get there, call our friends at Mint Financial Strategies. They know your financial life is unique and as an independent firm and an accredited investment fiduciary, They build personalized strategies that put your freedom and your goals first. No sales pressure. No one size fits all. Just thoughtful guidance built around you. So give them a call. That number is 303-285-3080. 303-285-3080. And I am so pleased to have on the line with me a fan favorite of all of yours. And that is Colonel Bill Rutledge. He’s 97 years young. He’s traveled the world. He has this great curiosity for people and history, and he shares all of this with us. We’re going to talk today about Greenland because Colonel Rutledge was stationed there in 1956. Of course, Greenland is in the news because President Trump has indicated that he wants to, he said he wants to buy Greenland, but it’s strategically really important. Colonel Rutledge, welcome to the show.
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Well, good morning, Kim. It’s very dark in Greenland right now. And I don’t mean politically. I’m talking about they’re in their dark season. So if you were to go up there, you have about three months where you see nothing, no light, zero. All you can see is the stars and the moon.
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And Greenland is a very large island, right?
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Yes. Greenland is the largest island in the world. And in relative size, you could put three Texas states and put them in Greenland. You still have some left over.
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Okay, and Greenland has been in the news because President Trump has said strategically it’s important. Apparently there’s some important minerals there. What’s your thoughts about all of that, Colonel Rutledge? We just had a little technical difficulty, Joe. I’m Okay, Joe, I think that Colonel Rutledge got kicked off there, so try to get him back on. And we’re going to be talking about Greenland, and that number is 303-477-5600. And Greenland, I was going to mention that… There’s a headline that just came through that Denmark is lauding an agreement with Donald Trump, well, the United States over Greenland. It says, now we are back on track. And this was published very early this morning. And it goes on to say that Denmark’s foreign minister on Thursday welcomed very constructive high-level talks over Greenland’s future, saying the conversation about the island was back on track. The talks between the U.S., Greenland, and Denmark in Washington on Wednesday were designed to resolve the diplomatic crisis triggered by President Donald Trump’s repeated threats against the vast and sparsely populated Arctic island. So speaking to reporters in Brussels ahead of a meeting of European Union foreign ministers, Danish Foreign Minister Lars Rasmussen said the meeting went well. Very constructive atmosphere and tone, and new meetings are planned. So we lost Colonel Rutledge for just a moment. He’s back on. And Colonel Rutledge, Donald Trump has indicated the strategic importance of Greenland. What’s your thoughts about that, Colonel Rutledge?
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Well, Greenland is very important, and… We’ve gone through some rather transitions with it. The most recent information that I’ve seen was published in the Epoch Times, which is a national and international newspaper, two weeks ago. They had a big feature because when the president went to Davos in Switzerland last month, he made it an issue and he had an opportunity to have the various countries that were involved there to be present and talk about the strategic location. And from when I was there, it was entirely a different situation because in those days, I was there in the 50s before we had intercontinental ballistic missiles. So our concern there was protecting America and Greenland from the USSR and their capabilities for long-range bombers. So we had a squadron of fighter planes and a squadron of air tankers and periodically the Strategic Air Command would send a squadron of bombers, depending upon what the world political situation was like. But even then, it was very important. And the Army has maintained a research area, a geological research area, for a long, long time. Now, I was up there 70 years ago today. This month or this coming month in February. And the first week I was up there, I met a gentleman and he was civilian. And I asked what brought him to Greenland. And he said he he was a geologist and that that was an international geographical year. So consequently, geologists all around the world were geologists. doing research in the field of geology to find out more about mining and minerals and other items that might be relevant. One morning he came in after he’d been working all day out on the Greenland ice cap. He said we had a very successful day. And he said we were drilling many hundreds of feet down in the Greenland ice cap because it is… In some places, they have no idea how deep it is. And he said, this morning we brought up shards from palm trees. Now, Greenland and where I was located, it was Thule, which is northwest Greenland, and it’s still an operational base. But it’s only a few hundred miles south of the North Pole. So when people talk about climate change, Greenland is a marvelous example of climate change. And more recently, people have done some research and found that there is a tendency now for us to be going through a warming cycle in the Arctic. And therefore, it is even more important strategically for us to have good defenses up there because that opens up the opportunity, especially for the Russians, to use their icebreakers and to come down to be a threat in Greenland. And, of course, the idea of Greenland and Russia Having some foreign country there seems strange when we are here. But when you look at the massive size of it and recognize that countries could come and start doing all sorts of things on such a huge area without you even knowing their presence. For example, World War II, the Germans had a weather station on the eastern side, and we didn’t know anything about that for a couple of years. And they were using it to inform their submarines that were really sinking a lot of Allied ships coming from America and Canada on our way to England. And we finally discovered it and closed it out. But it was a very secret operation. And just the size of it is hard to envision. Almost everybody on your listening audience has been to Texas. And you know, when you go to Texas, let’s say if you take your family, you might be there two days and your children are still saying, are we still in Texas? Well, and that was our experience whenever we’d cross Texas. And if you can imagine three Texas’s and with a lot of mountains and the mountains in Greenland, generally speaking, are like looking up at the top of the ones in Colorado. There’s mountains all over the place, and where there aren’t mountains, there are ice caps across from accumulation from hundreds or maybe thousands of years that you don’t know the depths of those until you can actually research and drill and determine how deep it is. And so Greenland is very important from the military defense standpoint. When we were there, we were concerned, of course, about flying aircraft coming over. It was before the intercontinental ballistic missiles became a threat. We had the dew line, which was an early radar lines, which were set up through northern Canada, and we had one on top of our mountain. We had a mountain just south of Thule called P Mountain, and it was several thousand feet high, and it had an early warning capability. Now, that same base has been turned over to the Space Command, and it is still doing some of those missions, but now, They have the warning capabilities for nuclear weapons and for situations for rockets in the distance. Now, you don’t have much time when you’re talking about rockets. But nevertheless, there are places there, not only up in Greenland, but remote areas. I’ve been to some. in Turkey and Greece and Pakistan and other parts of the world. And they’re very important. But the most important thing is to maintain good diplomatic relations with your enemies so that neither one of you are inclined to ever use those missiles. They’re scary.
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Well, let’s continue the discussion, Colonel Rutledge, when we come back from break. And this is very interesting. And the bottom tip of Greenland is probably right in line with Alaska. So that will give you an idea of how far north it is. And we’re going to continue the discussion. We have these discussions because of our great sponsors. And for everything residential real estate, reach out to Karen Levine.
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The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. And check out the website for the USMC Memorial Foundation. They have early bird pricing for their golf tournament, which will be in May. And I know Paula and her team, they do a great job on that. And it’s a lot of fun. So check that out at USMCMemorialFoundation.org, USMCMemorialFoundation.org. We are talking with Colonel Bill Rutledge, retired United States Air Force regarding Greenland and Colonel Rutledge was stationed at Thule Air Base in 1956-57 for a year which is really really far north it’s it’s much further north than than Canada and you said that during the winter there’s three months of no Sun whatsoever And so Greenland, as you look at it, it is a very important piece of real estate from a strategic standpoint to protect not only the United States, but it looks like Canada as well, Colonel Rutledge.
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Yes, definitely. And it’s good to think just a moment about the origin of Greenland and how it actually got its name. For years, All over the world, people have said, well, Iceland isn’t ice all the time. They’ve got a geyser there, and you have hot steam coming up, and it’s actually a volcanic island. But Greenland didn’t appear green in the most recent eras. But factually, back in the early days when the Vikings were traveling, back in the 12 and 13, 1400s, There were families living in the southern part of Greenland. It was in one of those warming cycles where they could farm and they could have animals there. And they actually have records in Oslo of a family that lived there in describing their living environment and everything else. So we know that there has been an occupation on the very southern end for hundreds of years. but much more limited capabilities. Now, in the 1400s, it was also significant. We were going through another one of the warming cycles as far as the Arctic Ocean. The emperor of China at that time was a very great expansionist, and he had directed his admirals of his fleets, and he had more than one fleet. to go around and map the major navigable waterways all over the world. Now, of course, he didn’t realize what a huge task that was, but it was staggering. Nevertheless, there was a Greenland commander, and he had a few other ships with him. He wasn’t just by himself. They would go out with a small number of ships. And most people have seen Chinese junks, the way they’re big sailing ships. And that’s what they were using in those days. So they mapped Greenland in the 1420s. And I have seen a copy of a map that was obtained by an archivist from the records in China. And the map that they did looked very similar to a map that you would do today. And because of that, it’s only possible that the Arctic Ocean was much warmer so that they could sail all around the island. We call it circumnavigation. And realizing that there are sailing ships, it had to be where there was little or no ice on the very northern perimeter of Greenland. otherwise they could not have done what they did because you couldn’t just get off and do this thing on the land that was not feasible in those days so we have all these cycles now the most recent experiences that we’ve been available that’s been available to us indicates that we are in one of those cycles now and that there is a prediction that within the next maybe 20 years that people will be able to sail across, rather travel by ship, north of Greenland to get over to, I mean north of Canada, to get to Greenland or to get to Russia. The traditional northwest passage goes in that direction. and it will be probably open. The Russians actually have a whole fleet of icebreakers, so they’re keeping a lot of the lanes open now. And each year in the last several decades, there’s been a few more ships that have been able to travel upon the surface. And, of course, this would make Greenland much more accessible and accessible. commercially, it might even be beneficial to a number of countries because when you’re moving heavyweights and things, a ship is still, a surface ship is still the cheapest way to move products around the world.
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So with Donald Trump, he said he wanted to buy, take Greenland, but I think the art of the deal, the new headline that came out is it looks like they’re going to get to a deal on Greenland, but Donald Trump is not the first president to understand the strategic importance of Greenland, right?
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That’s correct. Right after World War II and in the last year or so of Truman’s tenure, he wanted to buy Greenland. He made a specific order, offer to them. He was even going to use some of the gold reserve that’s in Fort Knox, Kentucky. And just think of how much it would be valuable to Denmark today if they’d sold it for millions of dollars in gold. And with the price of gold, they would be a much richer country today. And the mystery of of how we still have Greenland considered a colony. It really isn’t. It is a separate administration, but it is considered to be an asset of Denmark. But that dates back to the Viking days. Now, colonialism as we know it started breaking down right during the First World War. And then by the end of the Second World War, there was very little colonialism anywhere in the world. So the Danish idea of hanging on to Denmark as a colony is sort of out of time what’s going on. There will continue to be a relationship. But for the last 70, 80, 90 years or so, We have been able to do things in Greenland because it’s so isolated and there’s nobody else up there. There are fewer people living in Greenland than live in Fort Collins, Colorado. And we’re talking about the whole island. So that might give you some idea for comparison. Seventy years ago, right now, I was living in central Illinois, down near Champaign, maybe two to three hours south of Chicago. And I got orders saying, you’re not going to school in Alabama this year, like I was programmed to go. You’re going to Greenland. And I couldn’t find anybody that had ever been to Greenland. But I was told you’re going. And I had a wife. a three-year-old son, a two-year-old daughter, and she was pregnant with our second son. I could have gotten into ferment and not gone until after the birth of the child. But my wife elected to have me go because she had good support at the military base. And my whole future was key to it. And if I had gotten into ferment, I would not have gone to Greenland. I would have been sent somewhere else. It would have been an isolated one-year tour. But by going to Greenland and her having to relocate off of a military base—in those days, they couldn’t stay on a base when your husband was overseas— it opened the door for the rest of the 26 years of active duty. So often fate determines what goes on. In our cases, that was the case. But my wife made the decision. She said, you’re going to have to go to a short tour sometime. It might as well be now. And it turned out that every subsequent assignment in a 26-year tour all related to having gone to Greenland. And so nobody was happy to go there. Everybody was glad to leave, but we learned and gained experience. And when you were in Greenland, if you wanted to go to some particular part of the world for your second assignment, It was the easiest place in the world to get an assignment. One of my neighbors there had married a German lady, and he said, oh, I’m going back to Germany. And then they told me, they said, if you would like to go to Europe, you could go. And I said, look. I went up, but when I finish my tour here, I’m going to have three preschool children, and I’m not going to have my wife have to have that experience, and the children will be too young to learn anything. So I’m trying to relate this to a personalized side so that the listeners this morning can recognize that there are many assignments in the military that people are given, And they’re very foreboding, but often it turns out to be an open door to much greater assignment choices and to see many parts of the world that you certainly could not do as a civilian.
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This is fascinating. We’re going to continue the discussion with Colonel Bill Rutledge, 97 years young, regarding Greenland. He was stationed there in 1956 through 1957. And just fascinating as Greenland’s been in the news. And you should do a quick web search of where Greenland is exactly and how big it is. It is huge. And we have these important discussions because of our great sponsors. And, of course, for everything more, you’ll want to talk to Lauren Levy.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. And be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. And I wanted to mention the Center for American Values located in Pueblo on the Riverwalk. Co-founder of the center is Drew Dix, who is a Medal of Honor recipient. for actions he took in the Vietnam War. And Colonel Rutledge and I, as we were chatting, preparing for this show, he said, Kim, do you know anybody else that’s ever been to Greenland? I said, the only other person I know is Drew Dix. So be sure and check out the Center for American Values because Drew, his influence over everything there is so important. And that website is AmericanValueCenter.org. And we’re talking with Colonel Bill Rutledge. He’s 97 years young. He is a fan favorite of the show because he is so well read. He’s curious about people and places in history. And he shares that with us on a regular basis. And with Greenland in the news, Donald Trump has realized the strategic importance of Greenland and has had all kinds of rhetoric about Greenland. I think it’s been somewhat the art of the deal. But with that rhetoric going, Colonel Rutledge, I have looked at headlines that those on the mainstream media and more to the radical left, they are just almost crazy with his rhetoric about buying Greenland, invading Greenland. What’s your thoughts about all of that, Colonel Rutledge?
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Well, I think that more people… I have a mourning voice here. I get it. I get it. More people need to recognize that the president became very famous in his writing and his business transactions. And he even put up in print his comment about the art of the deal. And this is his style. His style is to talk about about something that’s maybe never, never land, but it’s something that will frighten people and make them to negotiate. And so he believes in starting at the top, where many of us would try to negotiate the other direction, because we are not as experienced as he, nor as wealthy as he. So he has created somewhat of an alarm for some of the people who, but then you’ll notice that each time he talks about it, it’s usually a little bit more congenial for all parties. One other thing we talk about, we fail to talk about enough, is when we say the strategic location. Yes, the location is very important, but it’s not just the location. It’s Access to mining of minerals, all sorts of minerals that are available on this massive island. And there are so many minerals that we use in our production in America. and in many other countries around the world, that are dependent upon the Chinese. Well, that’s because the Chinese mining procedures are not restricted by environmental offices like we have, or like some of the other countries around the world have. So consequently, they are able to mine many minerals that… we have been restricted in, or maybe just by the luck of the draw, they’re very fortunate to have many minerals that we don’t have, but that are essential as a component part of the industrial structure that we have. And many of these items are very essential for national defense from the standpoint of construction of of military vehicles, aircraft especially.
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I mentioned Virginia and reconnecting that dot regarding Greenland was, as you mentioned, the climate was much warmer back in whatever the 1400s when the Chinese circumvented and mapped Greenland. And so the idea that we would bankrupt. The American middle class, because of climate change, is what’s really been going on here with that climate change narrative. And we’d recommend that people check out the documentary at climateconversation.com. So we’ve got about a minute left. But Virginia. very special woman. And I think young people should listen to what she said. She had a three-year-old, a two-year-old, and a baby on the way, and she supported you. And in doing so, that provided great opportunity and benefits throughout your marriage and throughout your life. But I just want to mention how special that is of her, Colonel Rutledge.
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Well, she was also representative of that generation. Most of our officers and senior NCOs had families. and generally two or three or four children. That was standard. I’ve even lectured my sons over the last 20 or 30 years and saying, look, you’ve got to have enough children to at least reproduce, maintain one-on-one status so that we have a minimum of two children. It’s recently been brought out that it’s gotten to be a national security matter. But I’ve recognized it for a long time because you have to replace your children and they have to be able to read and write in English and understand our culture. There are so many factors. And yet the military, even today, tends to be much more family oriented than the general public.
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Well, Colonel Rutledge, we are out of time, but I thank you for teaching us more about Greenland, and it’s important that we learn these things. And Colonel Rutledge, you are truly a treasure, and I thank you that our paths have met.
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I also, and I don’t think there’s going to be a great increase in visiting Greenland.
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That’s probably true. So, Colonel Whitledge, have a great day. The show quote is from the Viking Herald, which says, When truth and fairness are different from the law, it’s better to follow truth and fairness. So today, be grateful. Read great books. Think good thoughts. Listen to beautiful music. Communicate and listen well. Live honestly and authentically. Strive for high ideals. And like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you. God bless America. Stay tuned for our number two.
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Indeed, let’s have a conversation, and welcome to our number two of the Kim Monson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You eat your treasure, you’re valued, you have purpose. Today, strive for excellence, take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. And thank you to the team. That’s Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, Amanda, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. It is Thursday, Producer Joe. Happy Thursday, Kim. Happy Thursday to you. We’ve got a lot of work to do here, my friends. Check out the website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter that goes out on Sundays, highlighting our upcoming guests as well as our most recent essays. You can email me at Kim at Kim Monson dot com. And the text line is 720-605-0647. I do want to hear from you. 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And I chose that because we talked with Colonel Bill Rutledge in our number one. One about Greenland, and it looks like the art of the deal that Greenland just came across the wire early this morning, that they said there’s very productive talks with the United States regarding Greenland. And Greenland was drawn into the Viking Age and settled by Norse Vikings in the late 1980s, and they were there until the 15th century. And it said, in many battles and wars, Viking warriors often were outnumbered and faced more advanced militaries, yet their fierce battling nature often won the day. In a way, I think that we can say the same thing here regarding, as we are individuals looking at this overreaching government at the municipal, the county, the state, and the federal level, and sometimes it seems daunting, but we’ll take great inspiration from this quote, and it is, oftentimes it’s not the numbers that win the victory, but those that charge forward with the most vigor. And then lastly, our bill of the day is a very, one that CUT does not support, the Colorado Union of Taxpayers. Senate Bill 26001, the prime sponsors are Senator Dylan Roberts and Representative Andrew Bosenecker, both Democrats and Representative Chris Richardson, a Republican. And we do appreciate Chris Richardson. He is one of our CUT awardees, although we don’t like this bill at all. And let’s see. It is a workforce… housing and housing tax credits. And that’s where we have problems on this. First of all, I don’t think government should be in the business of trying to push housing. What does workforce housing mean? We don’t wanna put people into pigeonhole of workforce. But the thing about it that really is disturbing about this particular bill is that it gives the county power to distribute tax incentives to persons who have no financial interest in the housing. And so we are definitely opposed to that. So that’s that. The other thing the headline is, is the Cherry Creek superintendent yesterday, we had Molly Lamar on. Commenting about the toxic environment at Cherry Creek schools and a channel 7 investigative journalist has been on this. Well, the superintendent resigned or retired. I guess he retired, which that means he’s probably got some quite the cushy. retirement there. We’re going to stay on that and try to shed some light on that. But a sponsor, as you know, all my sponsors strive for excellence. And Karen Levine is a REMAX realtor who strives for excellence as she serves her clients. We’ve got her on the line right now. Karen Levine, welcome. Good morning, Kim. And I giggle a little bit as I think about the journey that you and I have been on since you’ve been a sponsor of the Kim Monson Show and America’s Veterans Stories since before it was the Kim Monson Show. And it’s been quite this journey as we have watched what happens in public policy, yes?
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Well, yes. It becomes very… interesting to see um i think in many many times um we will we hope that those representing us who were elected to represent us um have some good ideas and that They are for the benefit of all, and yet it ends up picking winners and losers, and it ends up costing really middle America more than it should in trying to create benefit. And we have seen that in housing, right, Kim?
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We have seen that, and I was going through some papers last night, Karen, and I was going through some old headlines that I had pulled out, and one was a headline from 2017 talking about affordable housing. And affordable housing, that word affordable is being used to expand government and pick winners and losers exponentially since I pulled that headline in 2017, in my humble opinion, Karen Levine.
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Well, and like I said, I think sometimes there’s very good intention. We created a real estate market because of policy. When COVID happened and we held down interest rates, We created a buying frenzy and we didn’t have enough inventory, which caused excessive appreciation, which was good for the seller who wanted to sell and leave Colorado. But it wasn’t good for the citizens of Colorado over the long haul. And so we’ve had challenges, quote unquote, with affordability because of interest rates and the cost of housing. And yet. I am able to help people become first time home buyers or make that move up or that move down and to find the home where they can do life and enjoy family and friends. And so that’s always a blessing.
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Well, it is. And so if people are buying, selling a home, looking at a new build, how can they reach you, Karen Levine?
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Welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. And from Parker to Golden, Little Richie’s Pizza and Pasta is your go-to for real New York-style pizza, hearty pastas, and that unbeatable local vibe. They’re serving up daily specials, quick and tasty weekday lunch deals, and a happy hour. The locals actually build their plans around. So be sure and check out Little Richies in Parker and Golden. They have, I think, the best calzone I’ve ever had, so be sure and check that out. On the line with me is John Case and Peter Tickton. They are attorneys for Tina Peters. As you know, she’s a former Mesa County clerk and recorder. who is languishing in the La Vista prison as she was denied bond for as she’s going through the appeal regarding her case. And we wanted to get an update on what’s going on. So, John Case, welcome to the show. And I didn’t give you a choice. That’s John Case. Welcome. I didn’t give you a choice. And Peter Tickton is on the line as well. Peter, welcome to the show as well.
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Well, thank you. Hi, it’s good to be here.
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Good to have you. So, Peter, I’m going to go to you first. Tina Peters is languishing in prison. We actually have called upon Governor Jared Polis to get out of the political side of this whole thing and just from a humanitarian standpoint to release her. That has not happened yet. And recently, you were in court regarding her appeal. So give us an update on how that appeal went, Peter.
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Well, John Gates did the arguing on that appeal. I was prepared in regards to the issues regarding the pardon. And since we had briefed pretty well the issues there, and that was a side motion in a sense, we wanted to make sure we had a full half hour for the appeal. And And John did a great job, not only on arguing, but in terms of writing the briefs, the lawyers that were involved did enough of a job that the Court of Appeals were able to see just exactly just how horrendous. the decision by Judge Matt Barrett was, especially when it came to the sentencing. That’s when it became so clear. You got one person doing one thing and a bunch of different charges for the one thing that occurred, and yet this judge made everything, instead of running concurrently, they ran consecutively. So it’s kind of like if you have somebody that goes and robs one bank and then robs another bank and robs another bank, and let’s say he gets five years to reach bank robbery, then he gets 15 years because they run consecutively. Whereas if one person robs one bank, but in the process goes into three different vaults or whatever, but it’s all one thing, And he gets a sentence of five years for each of those three things. He only actually gets five years because they all run at the same time concurrently. So, you know, so what is the reason that that Tina Peters got nine years and but there’s no good reason for it. It was also blatantly wrong. A charge where she was charged with a misdemeanor somehow magically turned into a felony in the course of the proceedings. And the judge sentenced her on a felony when she was ever even charged with one in the first place. Things like that really irk good judges that know how wrong it is and how obviously wrong it is.
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So, John Case, I don’t think people quite understand exactly what happened, what she was charged with, and what Peter’s just mentioned, that she was charged with one crime but convicted of a higher crime on that, correct? And again, I’m just a civilian watching all this.
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Uh, yes, Kim, that’s, that’s what happened. She was, um, the, the language of the, of the, uh, charge was, uh, phrased in terms of the elements of a misdemeanor. Uh, but after the, uh, jury came back with a guilty verdict, the, uh, judge sentenced her for a felony. So, um, that’s one of the issues on appeal. The other, um, there, there’s numerous issues, but, um, The two big ones besides that are that she didn’t get to present a defense at trial because the judge wouldn’t allow the jury to even see the federal statute that she was bound to obey to preserve election records. 52 USC 20701 requires every county clerk to preserve the records of any federal election for 22 months after the election. And that’s what Tina was doing. So when Judge Barrett sentenced her, he sentenced her for what she was saying to criticize government officials and the Colorado computer voting system, which is a menace to our liberty. And this is what the judge said to Tina Peters. Quote, this is what makes Mrs. Peters such a danger to our communities. It’s the position she has held that has provided her the pulpit from which she can preach these lies, the undermining of our democratic processes, the undermining of the belief and confidence in our election systems. Prison is for those folks where we send people who are a danger to all of us, whether it be by the pen or the sword or the word of the mouth. And at… When we were in the Court of Appeals, the three-judge panel, I think we, I have a lot of confidence in the Court of Appeals, because this panel was really well prepared, and they brought up the topic of sentencing. They challenged the Attorney General, what about the sentencing? Judge Lipinski asked the Deputy Attorney General, who was arguing the case, wasn’t she sentenced for uncharged conduct? How can you sentence? And then Judge Tao chimed in and said, how can you sentence someone for what they say? Don’t we have a First Amendment right in this country to speak freely? So we feel very confident that we’re going to have a victory when the Court of Appeals enters its decision. And we don’t know when that will be.
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That was my next question. Any idea of what kind of a time frame? Because she’s languishing in prison while we’re waiting, John Case.
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Yes. Tina, you know, no matter how much they lean on her and try to discourage her, her spirit only gets stronger. In that respect, Tina is an amazing person, the most courageous person. woman that I’ve ever met. And so thanks to your listeners for supporting her at TinaPeters.us. That’s TinaPeters.us. That’s where your listeners can go to find the latest news and also to contribute financially to Tina because that’s where the attorneys get their costs reimbursed and hopefully someday get paid for their time in this. I’m going down to visit Tina today, and I expect to find her in better spirits than last week when she was in solitary confinement. Some of your listeners may have heard of this, some not, but on January 18th, Tina was assaulted by another inmate, and the woman who assaulted her was in prison for six years for stabbing her husband. three times in the back with a knife. She was convicted of aggravated assault, and she also stabbed her own brother in the hand with a knife. And so Tina was attempting to fill up a portable swamp cooler. And she was pulling the swamp cooler into the closet where there’s a hose to fill the water tank. And people may wonder, well, why would you fill a swamp cooler in January? And the answer is because in Unit 3 at La Vista, the HVAC controls don’t work. So the place gets hotter than Hades at night. It gets over 90 degrees Fahrenheit. And the inmates can’t sleep. So they use this. They share this portable swamp cooler to cool their cells so they can get some rest. And Tina was trying to fill the water tank in that swamp cooler. And this violent inmate starts screaming at her. You disrespected me. And Tina tries to calm her down and says, look, we’ll work this out. If you want to get into the closet, I’ll move the cooler. And at that point, the assailant leans around the cooler and throws a punch with her right fist at Tina’s face. Tina puts up her left arm to block the punch. So the punch hits her in the left arm, inflicting a bruise. And there’s a photograph of the bruise that you can find at tinapeters.us. And then Tina grabs the assailant’s right wrist with Tina’s left hand and Tina uses her right arm to push the assailant backwards out into the open area outside the closet. And then Tina disengages and as she’s disengaging, the assailant says, you know you’re on camera, right? So the whole thing was a setup. Somebody We think somebody put this assailant up to this to try to lengthen Tina’s sentence by getting her in trouble. And this happened just at the time the governor had said he was interested in granting clemency and cutting Tina’s sentence. And right about this same time is when this inmate who’s in prison for assault assaulted Tina and then made it look like Tina was the aggressor. And so they put Tina in solitary, and this other inmate was in the general population. And the message to all the other inmates is, if you assault Tina Peters off camera, there will be no consequence to you. So she’s got a target on her back. She’s not safe in La Vista. And I sent an email explaining all this and including… There’s a surveillance video of the assault, and you can’t see the punch because the assaulter was careful to throw the punch when the camera couldn’t see her. So what you see is Tina pushing this inmate backwards out of a closet, which makes Tina look like the aggressor. But you can see that the assaulter initiated the incident. and then allowed Tina to push her backwards into view of the camera. So the whole thing was a setup. Anyway, I sent an email to the chief investigator for the Department of Corrections on the 27th of January, and within a couple of hours, that investigator was at La Vista, and Tina was out of solitary and back into another unit. So we feel very grateful to that investigator for making this happen. But she’s still unprotected in the general population. She should not be at La Vista. I don’t know if you know this, Kim, but inmates are rated according to their danger to other inmates and to society. So Tina is a level one inmate. That means… She’s nonviolent. She’s in prison for a first offense and she’s never had any prior offenses. So she’s a level one, which is the least dangerous person. Um, she belongs in a minimum security level one facility, but Colorado doesn’t have such a facility for women. They have them for men. They have four minimum security prisons for men, but none for women. So she’s being discriminated against based on her sex, first of all, because she’s in prison with violent people like this woman who assaulted her, and she doesn’t belong here.
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Well, and I think you said that the assault assailant on this has stabbed her boyfriend and her brother. And she’s in prison for six years. And Tina Peters is in for nine years. So we’re going to continue the discussion with Tina’s attorneys, John Case and Peter Tickton. And we have these important discussions because of our sponsors. And we talked with her in the first hour yesterday. And that’s Karen Gorday with Radiant Painting and Lighting.
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SPEAKER 04 :
And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. And do check out the website for the USMC Memorial Foundation as they are raising money for the remodel of the Marine Memorial. And they’re going to have a great golf tournament in May, which is around the corner. And you can get early bird pricing on that by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. That’s usmcmemorialfoundation.org. On the line with me is John Case and Peter Tickton, attorneys for Tina Peters, who is the former Mesa County Clerk and Recorder who is in prison. And actually, I had used the word languishing as we were calling upon Governor Polis to release her from a humanitarian standpoint to show some mercy, kindness, and compassion, and so we’d use that word, but I think to John Case’s point is, Tina Peters is courageous, and we must pray for her every day, you can support her by going to tinapeters.us, I think that is, John will correct me on that, but Peter Ticton, I was going through headlines preparing for the show, and I saw that the Wyoming Secretary of State is calling for the release of Tina Peters. So I thought this was an interesting new development, Peter.
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Yes, I wasn’t aware of that, but I can tell you that there are people all over the United States on every level, going right up to the president himself, that have been calling for Tina Peters’ release. And yes, I realize that there’s another side of the political spectrum and people that don’t want to see her released because they think that she’s done something wrong. But in fact, and they say, oh, tried by a jury of her peers, But tried by a jury of her peers who got instructed by the judge to the same judge that refused to allow evidence to be submitted that allowed her to show her defenses. So she wasn’t allowed to basically show. that in order to follow federal law, she needed to do the image of the computer, or else she’d be violating federal law, and federal law is supreme over the state law. She wasn’t able to show that the fellow that did the imaging, where she was accused of deceiving Jenna Griswold, which Jenna Griswold isn’t even in the loop. Jenna Griswold is the Secretary of State, and she could make certain rules regarding COVID, but she’s not in the election loop. You know, the clerks of the counties are the ones that control. The machinery, they’re the ones that signed the contracts with Dominion. And when they get suspicious about something now, they’re all going to be afraid to do what Tina Peters did because they don’t want what happened to Tina Peters to happen to them. That’s why Tina Peters is in prison right now, not because she did anything wrong. You know, imaging the computers before and after Jenna Griswold committed the crime of wiping and overwriting the hard drives in the Dominion machines, which wiped out 92,000 files. She’s the one that violated the criminal laws of the country. And she did it 62 times in 62 different counties. And each one of them bear a sentence of up to a year in prison. So General Griswold somehow thinks that she can defend herself as long as the people are going after Tina Peters, they’re not going after her. And that’s what this is all about. And I just wanted to add a little bit to what John was saying, because if you look carefully in the tape and you take it item by item or, you know, kind of photo by photo, you can actually see this aggressor and her arm going up and down, punching. You know, you can figure that that’s where the punching took place. And you knew where Tina Peters’ arm was because of the frame before she went into the closet enough that the door locked to the camera from being able to see the movements behind the door. But it’s all there. And there’s no question about it that this aggressor was the one that attacked Tina Peters. And Tina Peters did nothing other than push this person away. Afterward, which was not only her right to defend herself, but anybody would have done what she did. And Peeta Peters is not a violent person, never been violent in her life, no record whatsoever, anything of the sort. As opposed to this person who stabbed her, you know, her boyfriend in the back three times. I don’t think it was a separate incident, by the way, when she cut her boyfriend. I think he was trying to intervene and that was more of an accident.
SPEAKER 04 :
Or her brother. Yeah, her brother was trying to intervene.
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Yeah, so that wasn’t like a separate incident. But this is somebody who can easily get inflamed, who can easily strike out because, you know, that’s her history. And they got, you know, either they got her to do it or they instigated her to do it or it happened on her own. Those are the only possibilities. But it’s certainly very coincidental that just when the governor is entertaining this and saying, look, I’m the governor. I got to make these decisions. Sorry, Jenna Griswold. If you want to be the governor, you run for governor, then you can make these decisions. And then that’s when this happens to, you know, to steer the governor in a way, you know, to say, well, look, now we have a whole new situation. But as John said, the investigators saw it. Anyone who looks at the video carefully at the beginning without a jaundiced eye that’s actually looking to see what happened can see exactly what happened, that this was basically a setup.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, and I find it really… Yeah. And Peter, I find it really curious that that frame that would be detrimental to Tina Peters was released to some of the mainstream media here in Colorado as well. I thought that was very curious, Peter.
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Yeah, exactly. Yeah. But the worst part of it is exactly what John said. Imagine that. The real aggressor is rewarded. I wouldn’t be surprised. I know she’s coming up for parole in a couple of months. You know, there’s different things that can be promised to people to make them react. Or a person like that’s easily instigated. So, you know, one way or the other, this person had, because Tina didn’t even know this person much, you know, she was there, but it wasn’t like they had an ongoing battle going on. It wasn’t as though there was this thing happening in the past Something caused this, and we may never know the answer to that, but I certainly hope that Judge Poulos does exactly what he was planning on doing before. This should not influence him. If Tina Peters is charged for this, we can deal with that charge separately. She’s innocent until proven guilty, and anybody who looks at the tape knows that she’s innocent. So this should not stop Governor Polis from doing what he knows is the moral thing to do, because he knows that the sentence that she received was harsh, in his words, overly harsh. He knows it was overly harsh, and he needs to do whatever responsible governor would do for somebody where there’s been an overly harsh sentence. And then watching what the Court of Appeals had to say about the sentencing, It’s not just his opinion anymore. Now he knows for sure that she was overly harshly sentenced and she’s going to have to be resent. So for goodness sakes, let her out.
SPEAKER 04 :
Let her out for sure.
SPEAKER 18 :
Please let her out.
SPEAKER 04 :
So, violent criminal, stabbed her boyfriend, accidentally stabbed her, it sounds like accidentally stabbed her brother, is in for six years, and she’s going to be up for parole here, it sounds like, shortly. Tina Peters has been convicted and is serving, I think you said, concurrent… years and she’s been convicted and basically the judges said we want to keep her there because of what she might say. And my friends, there are people on both sides of the aisle that want to keep her in prison and one has to ask why. I’ll let you all ruminate on that particular thing. John Case is You, as her attorney, were prevented by the judge from presenting a number of pieces of evidence for her side of the story. How many pieces of evidence were you prevented from introducing to the jury?
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Well, the two most significant ones are that the judge wouldn’t let the jury even see the federal law that Tina was obeying. We offered that document. It’s a single paragraph. on a piece of paper. He said, Judge, let us admit this exhibit so the jury can see the law that Tina was following. Objection by the DA, objection sustained by the judge. So they never knew the federal law. They never knew that Tina had a duty under federal law to preserve the election records. And the other thing was they wouldn’t let her, the judge would not let her testify about why she needed to protect Conan Hayes’ identity. Conan Hayes had federal certifications. He had been authorized to test election equipment in other places in the country. He had worked for federal agencies. One of the things he had done was take down an international child trafficking ring, which made him a target for the cartels who were running that child trafficking ring. So he had done work to save children’s lives. The jury wasn’t allowed to know that. And that is the reason that Tina misled the Secretary of State about Conan’s identity is because he asked her to protect his identity in order to get him into the room to see what the Secretary of State was doing to wipe these election records off the computers. Tina needed an expert in the room to see that. And that’s why she brought Conan Hayes in. But she couldn’t reveal his true identity. And that’s why she misled the Secretary of State. But it was her premises. It was her county. It was her machines. So she had the right to bring anybody into the room that she wanted. And there’s a Secretary of State rule that says that. Well, the judge wouldn’t let the jury see this evidence. So they only heard one side of the story. So it’s not surprising they convicted Tina. They obviously didn’t believe Gerald Wood, who claimed that he didn’t know anything about Conan Hayes using his ID. But the three felony charges that related to Gerald Wood, she was acquitted of because the jury didn’t believe his testimony. And the jury saw the text messages where Wood acknowledged that he knew what was going on. So… I know we’re running short of time, Kim, but I wanted to mention to you and to your listeners that the federal government finally has executed a search warrant in Fulton County, Georgia, for the ballots and all of the computer information. As you know, Fulton County was one of the counties in the country in a swing state, Georgia. And it was the key county where there was fraudulent vote tallies. And the government, I believe today or yesterday, executed a search warrant for those records in Fulton County so that the Department of Justice is now moving against the people who rigged the 2020 election. And hopefully they’re going to get involved in Colorado because we’re not going to – Republicans have no chance – to win in Colorado as long as we have computer voting machines because they fix the elections. With mail-in ballots and computer voting, the elections are controlled by outside forces, and your vote won’t matter because the machines will count it the way that these outside influences want the vote to go.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. So we are, I think there’s going to be a lot of things that are going to be happening here. Peter Tickton, thank you, John Case. Peter Tickton, your final thought.
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Yeah, I think that what John was saying is the most important thing of all, is that we do have an election emergency occurring in this country. If the machines are in play for the 2026 midterms, then we know what the results are going to be because the people operating those machines do determine the outcome of the elections. As strange as it may seem, as horrible as it may seem, other countries are involved in this. And now we’ve got Maduro from Venezuela who hopefully is going to be telling us what he knows. But at the same time, you know, there are adversary countries that are involved in dictating what the outcomes of our elections are. So, you know, this is because we have machines. It used to be that things were fair where you could, you know, we trusted people who did the counting. Now we have machines that are doing the counting and other things that are nefarious that are happening behind the scenes in regard to these. So, you know, thank you so much for giving me this opportunity to help the people of Colorado because Colorado people need to know those machines need to go.
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Okay. And again, that’s Peter Tickton and John Case. Thank you to both of them. They are attorneys for Tina Peters. And I think it’s important to note that Governor Jared Polis is responsible for her safety. And so really the humanitarian thing to do would be for him to release her. And we have these important discussions because of our sponsors. If you’ve been injured, reach out to John Bozen and Bozen Law.
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SPEAKER 05 :
It’s going to be a spectacular evening. So, yes, rubbing shoulders with the people that are fighting down at the Gold Dome. Perfect. Perfect. And giving them awards for their good behavior.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes, standing in the gap. And so we’re really excited about that. And again, join us, coloradotaxpayer.org. It’s only $25 for the year. And the tickets this evening are $20. And that includes the evening as well as libations and food. So we’d love to have you join us. But let’s talk about your brainchild. And that is Cut Engaged. which is a easy way for people to have their voices heard. So many of us are so busy, and to be able to go down to the Statehouse, sit there for hours, testify, or sit online to wait to testify, and I so appreciate everybody that does that, but we can’t do that with every bill. And so we are choosing bills that people can be engaged with, and this was your idea.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, it wasn’t my idea. I just saw what some other people were doing for some other things, and I said, well, I wonder if that would work for CUT. And it would amplify what we need to get out to the legislators so that they know that the people are watching this, and then they know that they can vote, that they should vote for the people. That was one of my main things, and plus making it easy for them, too. Yeah.
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Well, and it is super easy. We invested in this program, and we will choose up to six bills each week, the top bills, to let people get engaged with. We have three on there right now because we rated three bills this first week. And it’s super easy, yes? Yes.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes. And of course, you know, since we were both on council and we were both real newbies when we got on there, we felt, oh, my gosh, I have no idea what this bill means and what is it going to do to us. So one thing about cut, well, actually, there’s several things about cut. But one of the best things about cut is that we peel back that onion and put it in terms so you understand what it’s going to do, what this bill, what this legislation is going to do, good or bad. And then you can either voice your opinion on it or just go ahead with what we have said.
SPEAKER 04 :
and i i voiced my opinion i went ahead and just had cynthia requested that kind of engaged send it to the bill sponsors which it always says that but you can add in your state senator or state representative as well and for those three bills i think it maybe took less than two minutes for me to have my voice heard, and then I was able to know that I did something that day, because if these legislators receive a lot of emails, then they realize just what you said, that we are watching. And I think sometimes they try to wear us down, because they know we’re busy with our families and our businesses. And so this is such a great way to make your voice heard within two minutes, and then you can go ahead and go do the things you need to do during the day. But again, I thank everybody that does go down to the state legislature or testifies online. It takes all of us. And so this is a way for people to make their voices heard as well. So I thank you for bringing this whole idea forward, Mary Janssen.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, it was my pleasure. I mean, it just came to me one night saying, why can’t we amplify our voices? And that’s what I came up with. And thank God for Zach, who made it happen. And actually, everybody on CUT made it happen, too, because we all decided this is a good thing. I think it was anonymous, was it not?
SPEAKER 04 :
It was what?
SPEAKER 05 :
Anonymous. It was an anonymous vote on our part to allow this.
SPEAKER 04 :
Unanimous, right. A unanimous vote. Oh, unanimous. Sorry. Yeah. We’re very transparent. We’re not anonymous when we take our votes. We’re very transparent. So, well, Mary Jansen, I thank you for all the great work that you’ve done, the great work that you did on city council as a city councilwoman in Lakewood. And it’s going to be a great event, so we’d love to have people join us. So I’ll see you later today. Yes, we’ll see you tonight. And again, you can buy your tickets at coloradotaxpayer.org. We’d love to have you join us. And our end of the show quote, I went to the Viking Herald because we had talked with Colonel Rutledge in our number one regarding Greenland. And, of course, the Vikings lived in Greenland for many centuries. So I thought it would be appropriate to go to the Viking Herald. And I think this is appropriate also for Tina Peters. When truth and fairness are different from the law, it’s better to follow truth and fairness. And again, that’s from the Viking Herald. So my friends today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you, and God bless America.
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