In this episode of The Kim Munson Show, we dive into the intricacies of political ideologies, focusing on the ongoing tension between freedom and force. Host Kim Munson dissects the nuances of legislation at various government levels, emphasizing the importance of individual responsibility and critical thinking in contemporary politics. Drawing inspiration from Margaret Thatcher’s poignant take on socialism, we explore how government expansion often oversteps its boundaries, leading to societal and economic consequences. Our discussion extends into local community challenges as we welcome Karen Gorday, owner of Radiant Painting and Lighting, who shares insights from her experience in the
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It’s the Kim Monson Show, analyzing the most important stories.
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I find that it takes work to get your brain around these ideas, and it takes work to engage in these conversations.
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The latest in politics and world affairs.
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With what is happening down at the Statehouse, I used to think that it was above my pay grade to read the legislation, and it’s not.
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Today’s current opinions and ideas.
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I see big danger in as much as we will be giving an unelected bureaucrat the power to make rules about what we inject into our bodies.
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Is it freedom or is it force? Let’s have a conversation.
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indeed let’s have a conversation and welcome to the kim monson show thank you so much for joining us you are each treasured you are valued you have purpose today strive for excellence take care of your heart your soul your mind and your body my friends we were made for this moment in history and thank you to the team that’s producer joe luke rachel zach echo charlie mike theresa amanda and all the people here at crawford broadcasting it is just a great team that i get to work with and happy thursday producer joe Happy Thursday, Kim. And we’ve got a jam-packed show planned for you, so fasten your seatbelts and here we go. As you know, we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. It’s never compassionate nor altruistic to take other people’s stuff, whether or not it’s their rights, their property, freedom, livelihood. opportunity, childhoods, or their lives via force. Force can obviously be a weapon, can be policy, can be this whole compliance thing, unpredictable and excessive taxation, fear, coercion, government-induced inflation, this agenda of the World Economic Forum. It’s playing out at the United Nations, but also we see it with this governor here in Colorado, the Colorado legislature, but we’re also seeing it play out in local government. These local races are so important. We have amazing people. They’re just stepping forward to run for office, and it is so important. We focus on the issues, and we’ll mention the people that are pushing those issues, but we work diligently to stay out of the whole personality infighting that can happen in politics. We don’t like that eighth grade girl fighting. I didn’t like eighth grade that much, and I don’t like it now either. So we will focus on the issues. Our word of the day is aggrandize. It’s spelled A-G-G-R-A-N-D-I-Z-E. It’s a transitive verb. It could be to increase the scope of or to extend, to make greater in power, influence, stature, and reputation, or to consider to be or cause to appear greater than is really the case. So it could be exaggerate. But I think I’ll go to the first example. definition, to increase the scope of extend, we see across the spectrum, government, local, county, state, and federal, that is aggrandizing their power. And it is so important to get government back in its proper role. The quote of the day comes from Maggie Thatcher. And she was born in, let’s And she was a British stateswoman who served as prime minister of the United Kingdom from 1979 to 1990. She was the longest serving British prime minister of the 20th century, the first woman to hold that position. And she implemented policies that could be known as Thatcherism. And a Soviet journalist dubbed her the Iron Lady, a nickname that became associated with her uncompromising politics and leadership style. I find that interesting. This is from Wikipedia. She was focused on conservatism. And here in America, being conservative, what that means is to preserve this vision of America, that all men, all people are created equal with these rights from God of life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. And that vision, those principles are worth conserving and preserving. And so, hence, that’s my definition of conservatism. So her quote is this. The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people’s money. And socialism is not about free stuff. That’s the carrot to get people to vote for it. But socialism ultimately has to come down to force. And so that, again, is from Maggie Thatcher. The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people’s money. As you know, our show is independent. I purchased my airtime, and we’re on an independent station, so we don’t have anybody telling us what to do and who to have on. We have total liberty on that. But it happens because of all the support from all of you and also our great sponsors, who I know each of them, and they each strive for excellence. And we have one of them on the line right now, and that is Karen Gorday. with radiant painting and lighting. Karen, welcome to the show. Good morning. Thank you, Kim. It is good to have you. And let’s talk about your business first. I can’t believe it’s October 16th. That means tomorrow is Thanksgiving and the next day it’s Christmas. But people need to be starting to think about preparing for the holidays. And so now would be a good time to spruce up the house, yes? Yes.
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Absolutely. Yes. And I would recommend if you’re thinking about painting the interior before Thanksgiving and Christmas, start getting those estimates now, getting those things scheduled. Don’t wait till the last minute. Too often people wait until the last minute and can’t get it spruced up before those big holiday gatherings.
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So last night the girls came over. You weren’t able to make it because you were out campaigning. But Louise said that one of her colleagues had called you. and to get an estimate. And Louise was so impressed that you were out there within 24 hours, walking through everything. And given all that’s going on in your life, Karen, that is really impressive.
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Well, thank you. However, what I’ve learned is when people want estimates and want work done, they want things done as quickly as possible. They don’t want to wait a week, two weeks to even get an estimate. And the reason I say start getting estimates now, the cost of everything has risen. And if you wait to the last minute, you might not be able to get on that schedule to get things spruced up.
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Okay. And so what is that, what’s the best way to reach you, Karen Corday?
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Through the website, which is www.paintwithradiant.com.
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And you can fill out a form and that’ll come right to me. And also you, now’s the time to be thinking about your holiday lighting as well. If you go to your website, Radiant Paint with, whoa, hold on. What is it again? It’s paint. www.paintwithradiant.com. Okay. If you go to the website, the photos of the outdoor lighting is absolutely spectacular. And so, again, if that’s something that people would like to do, they need to plan on that. My friends, you are very busy right now. You are running for Lakewood City Council. And Lakewood… Karen, it’s in decline. We see big salaries for the bureaucrats, the city managers across the spectrum here in the metro area that are really pushing policies that are – are very destructive to our communities. And I say that also PBIs, the politicians, the people in office. And I saw this headline yesterday about something that’s happening in Lakewood called jugging. And crime is one of the first things that’s on people’s mind. But you saw that headline as well, right? Right.
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I did, yes. And so I think it’s a new term for something that’s been around as long as you and I have been, whereas someone who’s… watching someone at the ATM or the bank, and they’re withdrawing money, and then they’re getting followed and then robbed at their next destination. We used to call that mugging back in the day versus jugging. I’m not sure why we’re changing the terms, but we’re changing the terms. But we all need to be very aware of our surroundings at all times.
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Well, and so Lakewood Police, the headline was Lakewood Police Warn of Rising Jugging Robberies. So you have thrown your hat in the ring to run for Lakewood City Council. And what is the latest regarding your campaign? There’s these whole zoning questions that you’re concerned about. So what’s going on with all that, Karen Gorday?
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So the zoning has passed the 4th. around past this past Monday night. So, you know, the hard work begins with the referendum, you know, well, begins, it continues. We need volunteers and my understanding is you need volunteers in Lakewood for carrying petitions, more signatures. So that’s the zoning piece. And then to your point on the salaries, the budget, second reading of the budget is next Monday night. When you talk about salaries, it’s not just the city manager that’s making around $400,000 a year. Using 2024 numbers, because 2025 numbers are not out on OpenTheBooks.com, approximately 33% of the full-time city staff makes over $100,000 or more, and many of those are up closer to $200,000. Goodness. But Lakewood’s in decline, Karen. Yes, the spending is out of control in Lakewood. I am just amazed. And the economic development budget for next year is $2 million. That’s it. And I say that’s it because – That includes salaries. And if you can’t attract businesses, Lakewood is not going to grow. You’re not going to attract people to come to Lakewood. But yet there is $15 million in the budget allocated towards homelessness. So we know we have the homelessness industrial complex and there’s $15 million there. And we have the Emory Elementary where Lakewood’s going to buy the existing action center and lease it back to the action center. But then they’re also going to sell them the empty building for Emory Elementary for a million, which is at a loss. And so the taxpayers are… paying for this through jeffco schools because they’re jeffco schools not selling the building and land for market rates and then lakewood’s buying the current action center and then that money is going to be used to buy the elementary school and it is just a hot mess oh my gosh so you are you’re stepping forward you’re saying i i want to make a difference how can people get information and support your campaign They can go out to Karen for Lakewood dot com for it spelled out. Sorry. F.O.R. So Karen F.O.R. Lakewood dot com. And they can read about my campaign and they can support it as well.
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OK, Karen Gorday, thank you. We will talk with you next week and just keep up the great work as an entrepreneur and also as a citizen who is stepping forward to run for office. Thank you so much. Thank you, Kim.
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actually took the yeoman’s work on that one we all contributed but you were the one that really pulled it together thank you uh so uh yeah hold on just one second uh um this came in um one of our listeners just said why is the kim monson show not on the radio right now are you you’re sure that we’re streaming right okay so just had to ask um joe that so ramey um Lakewood, we just talked to Karen Gorday. You live in Lakewood. You’ve served as a legislator also on city council. Lakewood is, I saw this headline regarding this Lakewood police are warning people about jugging. You know, what’s the update you want to give us?
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Well, I’d really like to talk about this current situation. city council and what they’re up to. You and I both know that a rezone is something that takes a long time to put together. It absolutely requires the intake of the citizens, their input to define their own neighborhood. Well, that’s not what’s going on right now. All at once in June and July, the city council started having meetings in which they were rezoning. and started voting on this stuff with really the only city input from the residents was at the city council meetings. So it’s gotten everybody’s attention. They broke these different pieces down into four sections, which was brilliant strategy on their point because now in order to try and repeal this, We have to have four different petitions and the city has done everything possible Kim to make it as hard as it could be an arduous to get that process for us, the ability of citizens to redress our government. It took three weeks to get the first petition so that the city finally okayed it. But the issue with this is that they start the time clock from the minute that you submit the petition, not from the time that they say it’s okay. So it took three weeks off of the ability to get signatures on this. And basically what they’re doing, they want to change every single neighborhood to multi-use. And basically do away with residential single family neighborhoods such that if you live in an older part of Lakewood and Lakewood used to be very agricultural, we’ve got several neighborhoods where homes have half an acre, three fourths of an acre. If your neighbor sells their house, it will already be rezoned for multi-use, and a fourplex could go on there, and there is nothing that the neighborhood can do. So we are getting petitions. We’ve got one through three. There is one gentleman that… rented an office at 820 Sim Street, Suite 11. This week, it is open from 1030 in the morning till six. Beginning next week, it will be open from nine to six. And we are getting signatures on these petitions. And folks have been streaming into this facility to get these I think we will get the job done. I am very optimistic. I have heard that there’s restructuring type of interest from Polis, if you will, and that in Portland they had what they called a livable Portland. And that those same people have come into Lakewood and infiltrated us, basically, with a livable Lakewood. So that’s kind of where some of this is coming from. It is not from internal. Basically, the people just want to be able to decide what their own neighborhoods look like. They don’t want their city council. And to spring it on us like this is really egregious behavior. It is one of the designs of the left, if you will, that one person should only occupy a certain amount of square footage, and they’re trying to cut down on the amount of square footage on homes as well. You know, people don’t like it when the state tells you what to do, but we certainly don’t like it when the city becomes our HOA. So that’s what’s going on there. So we want people to come to 820 Sim Street, tweet 11, please sign these petitions. There is a deadline on them. I’m very optimistic this is going to happen. But then in the meantime, Kim, our good friend Natalie Menton pulled the Colorado Open Records Act on communication between our city and other cities regarding development. And she came up with 250 pages worth of communication between our mayor, Wendy Strom, and the mayor in Wheat Ridge. Also the PIOs, the public information officers and developers. And there was a Zoom meeting. And when two individuals from the city, you know, just regular people got into that Zoom meeting, they stopped it. and went into a quiet private session. So basically our mayors have been working with developers behind the scenes trying to get development planned for Lakewood, and it sounds like for Wheatridge as well. That is extremely egregious that our city is doing that kind of thing. and to just back up a little bit on what karen was mentioning regarding the emory sale monday night at city council all of council was given a subpoena so was our city attorney so was the excuse me our city manager the assistant city manager the city clerk the assistant city clerk And it is regarding this sale of Emory. That property is a school that the Jefferson County School District wants to divest itself of. The property, the school building, was refurbished, if you will, about three years beforehand to the tune of a couple million dollars. It is thought that it is valued at $10 million. The city wants to buy it for $4 million. It’s not real clear that the school board has even said that they’re willing to sell it. But the city is determined to buy it for $4 million, sell it to the Action Center, which is… a homeless industrial complex, in my opinion, for $1 million. And then when the Action Center moves into this residential neighborhood, a very nice residential neighborhood, then the city will in turn buy the Action Center for $4 million. It is unbelievable what they are doing. Oh, my gosh, Ramey. It truly is. Well, it just feels like there is corruption, to be honest with you. They are compromised regarding their working with developers.
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And we really are in decay. Well, that is for sure. And what you and so many in Lakewood are doing to save Lakewood is so important. Ramey, we are out of time. Ramey Johnson, you do amazing work. And I thank you so much. And just keep it up. You’re doing a great job. Thanks, Kim.
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Have a beautiful day. Bye.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. And do check out the Center for American Values. They are located in Pueblo. That website is AmericanValueCenter.org. They’re doing great work regarding our foundational principles of honor, integrity, and patriotism. They’re nonpolitical, nonpartisan organizations. Just focusing on that. Today is Liberty Toastmasters Day. And Kathy Russell, my friend, is the president of Liberty Toastmasters North. And she is stuck in traffic. And there must be – somebody’s having a tough day because there must have been quite the accident. And so we’re going to jump in here. I have on the line with us my friend Greg Morrissey. He is with Liberty Toastmasters North. And our subject for the day is this great American idea that the government’s power comes from the consent of we the people. Greg Morrissey, welcome. And what’s your thoughts about this particular subject?
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My thought about this particular subject, people need to know their constitution, their state constitution and the federal constitution. The website I’m on right now is constitutioncenter.org. And you go backslash the constitution preamble. And what they say right here says, we, the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, ensure domestic tranquility, provide a common defense, promote the general welfare, secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our prosperity, and do ordain the establishment of this Constitution of the United States of America. That’s the foundation this country was built on. And everyone should know that foundation and promote it and live it and breathe it. Like some of the things I’m hearing on your radio right now with what’s going on with the city of Lakewood. My gosh. It’s that constitution. It’s going to be you make that difference. And I would encourage all the people listening to you show because I go to the city council meetings here in Longmont. Get out there and make your voice heard.
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And Greg, I know that you and you’re an American citizen by choice. And I went to the Douglas County Commissioner meeting on our hearing on Tuesday and. To your point, we have got to show up. I coined the term fumes of freedom, which I talked with Trent Luce about yesterday. We are blessed people, but it’s because of those before us and because of this Constitution. So you’re… And your recommendation to do this, it’s so important. We have to do this as citizens to reclaim this state and this country and our communities. Yes. Greg Morrissey.
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Don’t let it go. It’s precious.
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Absolutely. Greg Morrissey, thank you so much. I so appreciate your perspective on everything.
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You’re welcome. Thank you, Kim.
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And Rick Rome, my friend from Liberty Toastmasters Denver, what’s your thoughts about this unique American idea that government’s power comes from the consent of we the people?
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Well, Kim, I’m going to start off on a little bit of a tangent because I love taking you down a rabbit trail. There’s two types of slavery that can happen. The first one is you take a person and demand their property or service and take them under your servitude. The second type is you pay them to not provide a service or a good. Both of them enslave people equally, but there’s a difference between the two. In fact, the first one, the etymology of the word actually goes back for thousands of years. We only talk about the transatlantic slave trade in the school system, but the Ottoman Empire was doing it with Russian women and Yugoslavian women, basically Slavic women, the etymology of the word for the modern-day equivalent of make me a sandwich and bring me a beer, if that gets the point across. The current gay version, what we’re doing is actually taking people and putting them in servitude to not provide a service so that they are compliant. and dependent solely upon the will of subsidies and support programs. I mean, I myself have been a victim of it or had made myself a victim of it during the COVID years when I was laid off. I had to turn down small amounts of work just because I didn’t want to have to go through the process of the paperwork and jeopardize what unemployment I was eligible for at that time. But in the second type, it requires consent. And I consented to that requirement for the purpose of the short-term gain. In the 1700s, there was this wonderful idea that was starting to develop that advocated this idea about the divine right of kings, and look to the people, and the French Revolution had talked about it through documents like the law, Bastiat’s The Law, where property is something that is a right. But in the Americas, we talked about it in the context of God-given rights, which means that we have to consent to abdicate that responsibility for our rights. as opposed to them coming from government sources. I bring this up because we have an election coming up. And on that ballot, I’m just looking at mine. It’s a fairly short ballot. We have two state ballot measures. One is Proposition LL, where they’re talking about Keeping that $6 check that the county sends you, it’s just $6. This one’s kind of like a pool shark type of a deal where they’re, you know, keep it penny ante until they get you on the table and then they double down, jack up your taxes as soon as they don’t have to return it. It’s a scam, folks. Don’t do it. The second one is because they spent all their money on homeless people at the state level and came into a budgetary shortfall and decided to hold us hostage and state employees hostage, just like Donald Trump’s doing with the federal employees, and saying, yeah, we can’t afford it, so we’re just going to go ahead and raise your taxes. Both of these are voluntary forms of servitude where we consent or we deny our consent, and that is the power of the ballot. But we were talking about city politics earlier. And in the city of Lakewood, we have a mayor’s race that’s going on right now. We have one member who’s on the ballot who’s a dear friend and a trusted advisor, but I’m not voting for him. We have another member who I ran against because I know that she is openly opposed to home rule charter and would happily abdicate her responsibility for zoning responsibilities to the state. Now, is this Lakewood?
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Is this Lakewood? You said Lakewood. No, this is Centennial. Oh, Centennial. OK, wanted to clarify. OK.
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Yeah. So in Centennial, we have she who must not be named, who would openly advocate a responsibility for zoning ordinances and let companies like BlackRock come in and scrape a single family house, put a fourplex. She doesn’t care. It’s the reason I ran against her. And then we have Don Sheehan, who I’m openly supporting and endorsing, who’s willing to stand up for the city’s home rule charter, who’s been an advocate for fiscal responsibility in the city. I would consent to have that man lead me. That’s what we have at stake here, Kim.
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Okay, Rick Rome, thank you. Yes, these races are so important. Rick Rome, thank you. Let’s move over here to Fred Clifford. He is one of my fellow Liberty Toastmasters from Liberty Toastmasters Denver. What’s your thoughts about this consent of the governed, Fred Clifford?
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Well, thank you, Kim. I wanted to mention something about Federalist 51. Just to get a little background, the Federalist papers say were a series of essays published in various New York newspapers after the Constitutional Convention in order to persuade the states to ratify the Constitution. And I want to read one little excerpt. It says, if men were angels, no government would be necessary. And if angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary. So when we’re talking about we the people, if government were made up of angels, or maybe in other words, those of complete virtue, there would be no need for consent of we the people. So we the people are not angels, and government officials are not angels either. And I like that first part, if if men were angels there would be no need for government we they would serve no purpose whatsoever If government officials were angels, we wouldn’t need checks and balances. And one of those checks and balances is we the people. So that’s all I have for today. Thank you very much.
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Back to the Kim Monson Show. And big question, are you ready for financial freedom? Call our friends at Mint Financial Strategies. As an independent firm and an accredited investment fiduciary, they always put your interests first. Mint means more than money. It stands for meaningful relationship, information sharing, a network of smart strategies, and a thoughtful advisor that puts you in control. Everything is tailored to you. So call Mint Financial Strategies today. That number is 303-285-3080. 303-285-3080. Kathy Russell has arrived. Yes. Yes. She’s the president of Liberty Toastmasters North. And our subject that we’re talking about is that the unique American idea is The government gets its power from the consent of the governed. We the people. And Marshall Dawson is on the line with us. Marshall, what’s your thoughts about this?
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Hey, good morning. Kathy, I’m glad you made it there. I’m so glad. I know that feeling. Yeah. Listen, you know, as a teenager, I was pretty active with our church youth group. And at one point, the kids in our diocese traveled to the neighboring ones for a combined event. I wasn’t prepared for what was about to happen. I learned a new word. and a different form of we the people. That word was consensus. Within this other diet, all decisions were made by consensus. They put all of us kids that had about 75 of us perhaps in a circle, and we needed 100% agreement on anything and everything that we were to do that weekend. And let me just tell you, it was not an efficient way to run an organization. And looking back, I I kind of have a wild streak now, but I wish I’d said something like, hey, I don’t consent to this methodology, and just blown the whole thing up. Wouldn’t that have been wonderful? Yes. But more than I think about it, we too often see the polar opposite, when we talk about we the people, the polar opposite of a consensus. We see small groups that can falsely aggrandize that they are the people, and that’s not necessarily true. Let me try it this way. In his farewell address in 1796, George Washington said, the very idea of the power and the right of the people to establish government presupposes the duty of every individual to obey the established government. So in other words, it was we the people, and if we’re being transparent, I think it was Greg who said, it’s we the people of the United States. And then it was ratified by the states. But we, the people, took a sweeping action to form the Constitution, yet it’s we, the individuals, who live within the constraints and the power as enumerated by the Constitution. And, you know, look, if we feel slighted, there’s the court system, which is the avenue for redress. I’ll just note that President Trump has been following court’s instructions, you know, for all those people we’re going to see this weekend saying, we, the people, are angry. No, you know, Trump has been, you know, playing it by the book. And I think this is kind of a hard truth. It’s not something that I want to admit necessarily. But if we the people decide that we really want to change, then we the people, not a small group of individuals, need to take political action. It’s not enough just to get out there and rabble-rouse with me, you, and my cousin Frank. Thanks for listening to my rant. It’s something that I’m still trying to kind of think my way through, as you say, Kim, wrapping our brains around this. But, you know, we the people as a collective versus a group of individuals is something I’ve been thinking about lately.
SPEAKER 17 :
Great, great discussion. I’m going to have to noodle that around today, Marshall. Great thoughts on that. And, Kathy, our next guest is Ross Clough from Liberty Toastmasters Denver. And, Ross, what’s your thoughts about the consent of the governed?
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Good morning. That’s an excellent question. And what I have been thinking about that is, historically, we’ve all been interested in voting, which is very important. But that is no longer enough to protect our freedom. Our freedom is under assault, both at the state and federal levels.
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Local now, too.
SPEAKER 26 :
Yeah, both. And at the federal level, there’s a new trend, which is very disturbing. I like to call it kinoism. That’s capitalism in name only. Kind of like rhinos, but I think it’s even worse. And what we are seeing now, one example of this, is our federal spending. It is $300 billion, with a B, more than it was during Biden’s last year in office. And if you remember, Biden had a nickname of Bidenflation because he spent so much. That’s not the kind of statistics that you want to have. And part of the problem is we have what I like to call extreme lunatic socialist bills that have not been repealed. And what that means is that it is socialism so bad that it not only violates free markets and U.S. constitutions and things like that, but it also violates international trade laws. And those two bills are the Inflation Reduction Act and And the CHIPS Act. Neither of those have been repealed. If those were repealed, that would help out with reducing spending quite a bit. And there’s another issue, and that is what I like to call the optics of socialism. It doesn’t necessarily mean it’s really bad socialism, but it looks really bad. and that is we’ve got a situation where the u.s government actually owns significant shares of five major corporations and that needs to be investigated it might not be as bad as it looks but it looks pretty bad and so what can you do about these kind of things first is you can call speaker johnson His number is 202-225-2777 and tell him how bad all the soulfulism is and that he needs to be working to fix that. The other thing, the best practice you can get for your First Amendment is at Liberty Toastmasters. That will make you more effective at communication, both speaking and written. So that I would recommend for anybody who is interested in keeping their their rights and their economic freedom as well as their civil liberties. So that’s what I would recommend everybody that is interested in liberty do.
SPEAKER 17 :
Absolutely. Excellent, Ross Clough. Thank you so much. And Dave Walden is on the line. I can’t wait to hear what he has to say about this unique American idea that the power from government comes from the consent of we the people. Dave Walden.
SPEAKER 09 :
Hi. Good morning, Kim, Kathy, Joe, everyone else. I’ll be as quick as I can because I know you’re running late again, Kim. Again? Yeah. Well, I mean, what happens is you get us on there and we just sometimes run on.
SPEAKER 17 :
I love it. Okay, let’s get to it.
SPEAKER 09 :
It is not possible to aggrandize the importance of the phrase the consent of the government in the constitution it stems from jefferson’s life liberty and pursuit of happiness in his declaration now give these words rights and consent a little thought the difference between trespass and a visit to a neighbor friend or a fellow citizen is consent consent of the owner of the property to be either visited or trespassed upon another example the difference between theft and commerce is consent consent involving the owner of the property and whether it is to be taken against the owner’s will or simply exchanged for mutual benefit now in perhaps the most obvious and sinister example The difference between sex and rape is consent. Consent by the owner of the property, either being forcibly violated without their consent or with their approval. Now, all three of these activities of consent involve property. The last, grievously so. So the bottom line being, consent or force wielded on property, whether it’s the very life of someone, or some minor portion of what it is they claim to own, it is not possible to aggrandize the importance of the word consent. So with that, I’ll cease.
SPEAKER 17 :
Dave Walden, thank you. I really appreciate that. And Kathy, we’ve got a couple of minutes. I know that you’re sitting in traffic, getting your thoughts together on this. What’s your thoughts about this consent of the governed?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, I think it’s a great idea. I see everything through the lens of evolutionary progress. And Dave, you mentioned Jefferson, who was the idea who really focused on consent of the governed. But that goes way back to Cyrus the Great. And I’ve just been so enthusiastic about Cyrus the Great, who governed. He liberated Babylon by… the consent of the governed, and he did it in a bloodless way, and he liberated all the Jews, and he also gave them money to rebuild the temple. He also went on to have a hugely successful empire that lasted 200 years because he helped the governed. He listened to the governed. He was governing according to the will of we the people.
SPEAKER 17 :
And so this American idea being governed by our consent, what I am seeing, what we heard about regarding Lakewood, what I am seeing with many of these local governments and these county governments is they, well, here even in the state, there’s this illusion that we are having our voices heard. But it’s not really happening.
SPEAKER 05 :
It’s almost, Kim, a perversion of we the people. Because the people who are doing this, they are thinking we’re doing this for the people. We’re giving them homes. We’re giving them food. We’re giving them education. We’re giving them things. So it’s a massive perversion that is not the will of the people.
SPEAKER 17 :
And the thing about it, though, is these PBIs in these industrial complexes, whether or not it’s homelessness or whatever it is, they are making big bucks. Yes, and that’s what everybody needs to know, and so few people know that. Yeah, and so check out Open the Books. Kathy, you’re going to stay here for the next hour. It’s so good to have you here. Our quote for the end of the show is from Maggie Thatcher. She said this, Socialists cry, power to the people, and raise their clenched fist as they say it. We all know what they really mean, power over the people. Power to the state. And so today, be grateful. Read great books. Think good thoughts. Listen to beautiful music. Communicate and listen well. Live honestly and authentically. Strive for high ideals. And like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you. God bless America. And we are going to have a great second hour here. And Kathy Russell has arrived, which is great. And I think we need to talk a little bit more about the consent of the governed by we the people. Stay tuned.
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SPEAKER 17 :
Indeed, let’s have a conversation. And welcome to the second hour of The Kim Monson Show. As you know, we’re on live 6 to 8 a.m. First hour is rebroadcast 1 to 2 in the afternoon. Second hour, 10 to 11 at night. That’s on all KLZ 560 platforms. And then after that, you can find the show at my website or also Spotify, iTunes, and the streaming services. So we’re going to get into it. I want to say thank you to Laramie Energy for their gold sponsorship of the show. It is reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant power from natural occurring hydrocarbons such as oil, natural gas, and coal. that powers our lives, fuels our hopes and dreams, and empowers us to change our own personal climate to be cool in the summer and warm in the winter. In studio with me is my friend, and that is Kathy Russell. She is the president of Liberty Toastmasters Denver. The perspective, just hearing from our fellow Liberty Toastmasters regarding this unique American idea that the power of government is to be derived from the consent of we the people. And Kathy, we see an illusion here. that we the people have a voice. I would recommend that people check out my voter’s guide, which is at kimmonson.com. There’s a red ribbon at the top. You just put in your name and your email and then we’ll send you a link to that. And I started to do this voter’s guide many years ago because I would look at the ballot And what I was learning is sometimes the question on the ballot could be somewhat manipulated. It was hard to understand.
SPEAKER 18 :
Oh, absolutely.
SPEAKER 17 :
But many times also there was, for example, with Proposition LL and MM, there is legislation. Pages and pages of that. And I thought people need to know what is going on with that. And so it’s been this illusion that we are giving our consent, but it’s been manipulated really by both sides of the aisle, Kathy.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, absolutely. And Kim, while we were talking before and you were mentioned at Douglas County event, a meeting where people, there were 40 plus people and they weren’t all allowed to speak. And I’ve been in those kind of meetings where I knew that it was all show business. They’d already made up their mind. They had this public speaking time to perpetuate the illusion that the people mattered.
SPEAKER 17 :
Right.
SPEAKER 05 :
And it was disgusting. Yeah.
SPEAKER 17 :
It was embarrassing. And we’re seeing this happen from people from both sides of the aisle. I’ve been down at the statehouse. Same kind of thing. You’ve got a hearing, and they may limit the people coming down there to speak. I really think that every voice should be heard. And you may not agree with it, but I think every voice should be heard. If they have taken the time as a citizen to go down and sign up to speak, I think every voice should be heard. And that may mean that people are there for a while, but I think every voice should be heard. Yeah, I agree with you, Kim. And that’s not happening. So we have this illusion right now. But people are waking up. When we talked with Karen Gorday, who is an entrepreneur, owner of Radiant Painting and Lighting, busy with her business, busy with her life, and she’s stepping forward to run for office. So inspiring. Or Rami Johnson, who she was a state legislator. She served on Lakewood City Council. very busy and she stepped forward to serve and so and i have friends patty mccernan is running for centennial city council people are stepping forward we the people and that’s why i say that we are at such an interesting time in history that we were made for this moment we stand on the shoulders of giants we stand on those before us and we have a responsibility to step forward now kathy
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, we absolutely do. Thank you, Kim. And thank you for what you do. And one of our mottos at Liberty Toastmasters is that the freedom to communicate creates all of our other freedoms. And so what you’re doing here is you are communicating and you’re liberating us all, letting us know what is actually going on. So thank you so much.
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Well, it’s our goal to do that, and it’s because of all of you. Let me get to our word of the day, which is aggrandize. And it’s A-G-G-R-A-N-D-I-Z-E. First definition, to increase the scope of or to extend. So I guess on a positive note, let’s aggrandize liberty. How’s that? Yes. And next, to make greater in power, influence, stature, or reputation. Or number three, to consider to be or cause to appear greater than is really the case. Our quote of the day is from Maggie Thatcher. And just going through her quotes, they’re inspiring. She was born in 1925, died in 2013. She was a British stateswoman and prime minister known as the Iron Lady. She said this, the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people’s money. And we have these discussions because of our sponsors. And a woman that is a great friend of mine, I’m going to get to see her a little bit later today. And that is Karen Levine, RE-MAX Alliance award-winning realtor. Karen Levine, welcome. Good morning, Kim. We’re on fire over here, Karen.
SPEAKER 06 :
It sounds like it. It sounds like it. And aggrandizing in all things. Yes, we are.
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Well. Well, I don’t know about that. I appreciate your listeners who extend a lot of grace to me, but I think we had some very interesting discussions.
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Well, and that’s our goal. So let’s talk a little bit about the metro real estate market. There is opportunity, but buying, selling, what are you seeing right now? This is called, what, the fall buying season? It is.
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It is. And it is. Well, I have to say I’m quite busy, but I am not too busy for any of your listeners. We’ll make time certainly to help them with their real estate needs. But I have people who are wanting to make change because, you know, fall is the season of change and they’re looking to move up or move out or move in. So I’ve got people coming from the East Coast, moving into Colorado. Colorado and people moving out to the East Coast. So there’s movement which then creates opportunity for others and I’m working with a young man that works for TSA. So he is on furlough, but working. You know how that looks for him. But as a young man, obviously his paycheck is important. But he’s looking to become a first-time homebuyer. And we have seen some great opportunities for him. He has choice and opportunity. It used to be make your search very, very broad, and now we can make our search a little more narrow with not just the need things but some of the want things.
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Well, and that’s one of the things I love about you, Karen, is I know from you working with some people that I know that you sat down with them. You went through really a questionnaire to determine what they were really looking for, and then you were able to really help them with that. Right. I think people maybe don’t even know what they are looking for until you sit them down and you go through that analysis, which I think is so important.
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Well, thank you. And, yes, we want to hear. It’s important to delve into what you need to have a quality of living. And then also, what are those wants? And can we make those things come together based on your budget and your financial desires along with your wish list? And buying a home is a compromise, but we never know what we’re going to compromise on until we see what our choices are. And the one beautiful thing about real estate is you have that freedom of choice. It’s just limited by supply, which we have good supply now, and then your financial ability.
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Yes, and I was out at a new-built community out by the airport. It’s a community by D.R. Horton. Very impressed with their product. But with that said, if you’re interested in buying, selling, or new construction, give me a call. Let’s start their conversation at 303-877-7516.
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Well, thank you, and it’s a pleasure and definitely an honor to support the Kim Monson Show.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. The text line I want to hear from you is 720-605-6047. Do check out the website for the USMC Memorial Foundation. Our official Marine Memorial is right here. in Golden, Colorado at 6th and Colfax. Paula Sarles, who is the president of the foundation and her team, are working diligently as they’re raising money for the remodel, taking care of the Marine Memorial. And something that you might want to do is to, as we’re getting into Purchasing our gifts for Christmas, Hanukkah, is to purchase a brick that will be on one of their pathways of service as they get the Marine Memorial completed. And you’ll receive at this time a beautiful certificate. And you can honor your military service, but it’s a great gift for your loved ones as well. And you can get more information on that by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. In studio with me is my friend. She is the president of Liberty Toastmasters North, and that’s Kathy Russell. It’s really good to have you here. Really great to be here, Kim. Thank you. And on the line with us is Pam Long. She is a West Point graduate. a former captain in the Army Medical Service Corps, and she serves as the military director for Children’s Health Defense, and she writes important essays for The Kim Monson Show, as well as she’s been speaking a lot and a regular guest on the show. Pam Long, welcome. Thank you, Kim. Good morning. And you’ve been getting a lot of mileage out of this essay that we published regarding the 10 scams in public health. And you’ve been speaking a lot about that, a lot of different opportunities.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. We published it here at the Kim Monson Show this summer in August and September and even October and November. I’ve been scheduled at various Liberty groups, you know, grassroots groups. Every time I speak at one group, I get invited to another group. It’s really it’s they are the hot topics in public health.
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Well, and it’s so important to shed light on this, and people can find that essay at kimmonson.com. This weekend in the newsletter, and it’ll be on the website, we’re posting your next one, and that is HHS changes the vaccine recommendations in 2025. So this is a big deal. Where should we start?
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Well, it started back in May with changes to the COVID vaccine recommendation, where Health and Human Services, led by Secretary Kennedy, has changed the recommendation for the COVID vaccine. It is not a universal recommendation anymore for all children, all people. It is not recommended for healthy children and healthy pregnant women. And this was just recently codified by the ACIP, which is the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices to the CDC. So there’s not a universal recommendation. It is now a shared clinical decision making decision between parents and providers for children ages six months to 17 years. And so what we see here is It sounds like it’s kind of recommended, but it’s not recommended. It can be very confusing to parents because the CDC schedule was not updated immediately. So what we have here is your doctor, instead of saying, hey, this is recommended, you have to get it. It should be a different conversation. It should be, hey, some people have more risk than other people. Maybe immune compromised people have more risk. Maybe the elderly have more risk for upper respiratory viruses. And there are different options. It might not necessarily be this vaccine. because some other people also, some doctors would tell you that just because you’re immune compromised doesn’t mean you should get every vaccine on the schedule, right? People who are immune compromised, including my own adult son, they have contraindications to some drugs and some vaccines as well. However, you almost always hear that you have to protect the immune compromised, right? So, and then you have to take every recommended vaccine. These are very individualized discussions. And so we’re turning from a more to a consent discussion versus a ordered discussion of an assumed sale on a vaccine where, hey, everyone needs to get this.
SPEAKER 17 :
So we’re referring to this as the COVID vaccine. But you and I have had many conversations that it is an experimental drug, if you will. Has that definition changed, Pam Long?
SPEAKER 07 :
No, and the public does not understand this, that it is an emergency use authorized drug or vaccine. And that means it was never FDA approved, not one single dose of the COVID vaccine given during the pandemic. And many people believe they were given an FDA approved vaccine. This was fast track experimental emergency use authorized, which is very different than an FDA approved vaccine, which is why it has never been mandated for schools. So people were lied to, basically. They were led to believe that this was FDA approved and that it could be mandated for school or college or employment or even in the military. But it’s not. It is still an experimental drug. People who want it, you can still get it. It is covered by health insurance and many free vaccine programs. It’s not being restricted in any way, but the recommendation is gone. And this should actually protect providers and pediatricians instead of being compelled to order this vaccine for their patients under threat of some type of disciplinary action, it is moving in the right direction to a risk benefit conversation. However, we can get into what the American Academy of Pediatrics has done, made several steps to intervene on this change.
SPEAKER 17 :
So yeah, let’s talk about that because they filed a lawsuit, right?
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, it’s more than a lawsuit, but let’s start there. needs to know that, you know, up until now, all of the recommendations for schools and jobs and daycares and, you know, healthcare providers are based on the CDC’s recommendation, the recommended vaccines. For the first time in like 30 years, we’re seeing a split where now states, especially blue states, almost all the blue states are saying the American Academy of Pediatrics is leading this or leading a lawsuit against Health and Human Services and Secretary Kennedy demanding that this recommendation for the COVID vaccine would be resumed for children and all people and pregnant women and reinstatement to the CDC immunization schedule. And I just need parents to understand the American Academy of Pediatrics sounds like a medical organization. It sounds like experts. It sounds like science. It is a lobbying organization. It is sponsored by all of the pharmaceutical companies. It is basically a key piece of the medical cartel. funded by pharmaceutical industry with a huge financial incentive to preserve the status quo and so and so they’re getting millions of dollars in federal grants and to fund this lawsuit taxpayer money to fund their lawsuit to say we want to keep selling the coven vaccine to children to pregnant women to all people because there’s no liability in it for us right we’re just making money
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So, I guess the first thing is to shed light on this. Pam, there’s been people that have reached out. For example, on that essay that you did on senior asset theft, this woman that found the essay reached out and said no one else She could not find anyone else that was talking about this except you here with your essays on the Kim Monson Show and the work you’re doing with Children’s Health Defense. What about this issue and the American Academy of Pediatrics? I know that Dr. Jack, we had him on yesterday, he talks about this, but it’s difficult to get this information. I think that’s the point I’m trying to make.
SPEAKER 07 :
It is very difficult to stay up to date with it. That’s why this summary, I think, will help a lot of people, all the changes that have happened in 2025, because the CDC is no longer recommending certain vaccines, which will get to them all. And meanwhile, you have the American Academy of Pediatrics and some other medical groups who will continue to recommend these vaccines. And that’s very confusing to a parent when they go into the pediatrician’s office of, you know if your doctor says oh yeah we totally still recommend this vaccine um you may not know there’s been this big rift between the american academy of pediatrics and the cdc and that they have gone rogue basically and have decided to recommend vaccines that are separate from the cdc’s recommendations most parents will not be able to discern the difference and because the the american academy I mean, a pediatrician has created their own title for this. It’s called the Evidence-Based Immunization Schedule. And you can see where that sounds a lot similar to the CDC’s recommended immunization schedule, right? Parents are going to be bamboozled, basically, to believe that some of these vaccines that are no longer recommended are still recommended. And that’s why we’re talking about it here on the Kim Monson Show.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, and Kathy Russell, you’re a scientist. As you’re hearing this, what’s coming to your mind on this?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, what’s coming to my mind is that there’s a problem with estrogen, a similar kind of thing that the North American Menopausal Society is doing the same thing. They’re just completely diverged from actual evidence. And it’s these pharmaceutical companies that are just driving everything. It’s
SPEAKER 17 :
criminal. Well, and there’s coercion, which is one of our force words, Pam Long. Let’s go to break. We’re going to continue this discussion with Pam Long regarding her essay that we will be rolling out this weekend, which is recommended changes to the vaccine schedule. And such an important discussion. We have them because of our sponsors. And I so appreciate Radiant Painting and Lighting. Karen Gorday was on in our number one. and they certainly strive for excellence. She’s also running for Lakewood City Council, and it’s because of these great sponsors that we are on the air.
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SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, it’s totally very interesting what’s happening.
SPEAKER 17 :
And Pam, during break, we were talking about the American Academy of Pediatrics. All these things sound so scientific and so official. And Kathy had said something about the Northern American Menopausal Society or something.
SPEAKER 05 :
They just changed their name to the American Menopause Society. But it’s a similar kind of thing where it’s… It’s working on behalf of pharmaceutical companies, not necessarily in the interest of women’s health.
SPEAKER 17 :
So when I asked Kathy about this, she said something about estrogen, that there are studies that estrogen can really help people, but they’re not talking about that. And I said, well, why? And Kathy, you said there’s all these other pharmaceuticals that are being prescribed to women.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right, yeah, if people don’t have sufficient estrogen, whether it’s men or women, people don’t know this, men need estrogen as well, and if they don’t get enough, they get osteoporosis, they get dementia, they get the incidence of heart disease, all these things go up, and they just did the biggest study ever, 10 million women, they looked at them, all of them who took estrogen benefited, whether they’re 65 or over, If you take the proper kind of estrogen replacement therapy, your chance of living longer, healthier, happier, just go up. But instead, there’s pharmaceuticals that are being prescribed for women that are having… For all the problems that people have, like early onset dementia is one of the problems, heart disease. Biggest one is bone, bone loss. Terrible thing.
SPEAKER 17 :
Interesting. Pam, I know this is a little off subject. Your comments on that?
SPEAKER 07 :
No, I love it. What we’re really talking about here is what I tell every time I speak, I tell my audience, look, when you go into a medical facility, you need to treat it like you’re going into a used car transaction sale, right? Like you’re talking to a used car salesman because they’re selling you a product, right? You might not need the product. There might be a better product, but they only want to sell you the most profitable product. they’re not going to tell you about the side effects or you know the problems you could have with their product like a used car salesman they want to sell you the product and until we shift our our trust to a level of zero trust i don’t trust what you’re saying because you’re selling me a product the product is a drug or a vaccine i’m going to go home and do my own research and then come back to you and make a decision and by the way i might fire you Because leading into the next part of this topic is if you already are trusting the American Academy of Pediatrics, which you shouldn’t because it’s just given this position of authority that has not earned your trust in your life, know that they have called for the end of all religious exemptions to vaccines. Wow. Wow. So think about this, you know, talk about aggrandizing. Now they’re not only medical experts over you or you don’t have a say in what, you know, you have to take all 70 doses of every vaccine or be excluded from society. But now we don’t even believe in your religion. And now we’re putting ourselves in between you and your God. Let me read a quote from a spokesperson for the American Academy of Pediatrics. Dr. Jesse Hackle said, quote we recommend that vaccination is required for participation in certain public activities such as school and daycare and if you choose not to vaccinate you’re essentially choosing to exclude yourself from those settings end quote so the american academy of pediatrics is advocating for societal segregation for any person who opts out of any vaccines there are 70 now 70 plus doses recommended for U.S. children all the way up, you know, and then there’s an adult schedule as well, by the way. So I’m looking at this just, you know, let’s say I have immunity to chickenpox. Let’s say I don’t have a risk for chickenpox. The American Academy of Pediatrics is putting themselves in a position to say, well we think you should get a booster every 10 years pam long or you’re excluding yourself from society that’s where this is head this is happening by the way and to say that you know medical exemptions are legitimate well you should also know that’s a sleight of hand as well because the american academy of pediatrics has will not they have sanctions for their doctors or pediatricians so their doctors will not approve medical exemptions medical exemptions do not exist So for them to now attack the religious exemptions for most parents, that is the only way to get out of a vaccine that they have some type of deeply held, sincerely held personal belief, religious belief, philosophical belief. That’s all under our religious beliefs. That’s the only way out of these requirements is to use a religious exemption in the year 2025. So when the American Academy of Pediatrics says we don’t want any more religious exemptions, one, it’s not their place. They have constitutional rights in this country. But two, they’re really saying we want zero exemptions to all vaccines.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay, Pam Long, this weekend is supposed to be all of these no kings protests. This sounds like somebody trying to be a king over we the people.
SPEAKER 07 :
This is absolutely what we would, you know, I took an oath to the Constitution when I served in the armed forces. This is a domestic threat. This is a domestic enemy, right? This is someone on our soil taking over people’s rights, putting them in a position to assert control over your lives. And this is not an elected entity. We didn’t elect the American Academy of Pediatrics. This is a domestic enemy.
SPEAKER 17 :
And it sounds like somebody’s trying to be a king over our lives. This is the kind of stuff that we really need to protest. And that is why we are shedding light on this. Pam, as we’re talking about this, and you and I got connected before COVID regarding COVID. The radical activists and those that are colluding with them have been at it for a long time. And the issue was this vaccine legislation down here at the statehouse. And I got connected with some moms that I would say probably lean to the left on a political spectrum. But we came together on this medical freedom issue. And there was this legislation down at the statehouse before COVID. And that’s where that quote that we have on the show came from is I read the legislation and I looked at it and I’m like, oh, my gosh, they are putting in place a law here in Colorado where some unelected bureaucrat will have the power to dictate what we put into our bodies. And they were playing long ball on this, Pam Long.
SPEAKER 07 :
They are playing long ball and they were prepared before Secretary Kennedy his position in February. And in March, there was a bill, HB 1027, this year that had some misleading title about updating. He always used words like updating or modernizing to take away your rights in regards to medical freedom. And 1027 was about giving CDPG total control over the next pandemic or really any crisis. It’s really undefined. It could be a climate crisis. Who knows? But When that bill came up, Senator Mullica amended it to say we will no longer follow the CDC recommendations, right? Preemptive move. That’s how strategic they are. Before he has even made any changes at HHS, Secretary Kennedy, so Senator Mullica said, you know, we’re taking the politics out of vaccine recommendations and now we’re changing that we will no longer follow the CDC recommendations. We will follow the recommendations of the American Academy of Pediatrics and some other similar medical organizations. That’s how strategic they are. They are ahead of they see what’s coming. And they have already put in our in our state law here in Colorado that we we are following the American Academy. Was there any disclosure that the American Academy of Pediatrics is a lobbying group and was given thirty four million dollars, you know, in twenty twenty three to promote vaccines or that the American Academy of Pediatrics? is financially sponsored by Eli Lilly, Glasgow Klein, Merck, Moderna, Sanofi. No, no conflicts of interest were mentioned.
SPEAKER 17 :
Wow. And I wanted to mention the Colorado Union of Taxpayers, which is this all-volunteer group that we take a look at legislation. We look at it from property rights, how it affects the taxpayers, parental rights, and protecting TABOR, Colorado’s Taxpayers Bill of Rights. We took a position on this. And this is what we said. And the title on this House Bill 25-1027 was Update Disease Control Statutes. Whenever you see the word, as you mentioned, update or modernization, you know, Katie barred the door on this. But this is what we said. This bill repeals the governor’s expert emergency epidemic response committee, known as GERC, which advises the governor during public health threats and assigns its responsibilities to the Colorado Department of Health and Environment and makes several changes to student immunization requirements. It says while CUT supports the elimination of GERC, it opposes the state’s continual meddling in children’s vaccines. Vaccinations are the responsibility of parents… not the state, not the king. And schools may still expel students. I added the not the king in there. Schools may still expel students for lack of vaccinations, but no longer need to report those expulsions. And this legislation in assigning emergency responsibilities to CDPHE does not address the overstep of authority that we experienced during COVID in addressing future pandemics. Boy, I think our team nailed it on that, Pam. They really did.
SPEAKER 07 :
I actually was in support of the GERC because it actually brought more people to the table, outsiders versus just, you know, the bubble of CDPHE and the Board of Health, which we saw how they implemented a non-evidence-based recommendation, pseudoscience for masking and distancing. And I would give you an update that’s probably going to appall you. So, you know, once a bill becomes law, that it goes to rulemaking at the CDPHE, or whatever department that has oversight, they actually added into this terrible legislation that non-citizens are not required to provide any type of proof of vaccination in the state of Colorado. So citizens are subject to expulsion and suspension if they’re out of compliance. You know, if a parent just needs more time to make, you know, they’re making decisions on 70 doses, they need to get a doctor’s appointment. They need to figure it out whether they need an exemption or not. How do I get an exemption? So, but our non-citizens, what they would call indigent people is how it’s worded. They are not required to provide any documentations on immunizations, nor are there any sanctions. There’s no expulsion. There’s no suspension. There’s no risk of, you know, being, what’s the term when you miss too many days of school, you know, None of that applies to non-citizens here in the state of Colorado now.
SPEAKER 17 :
I’m speechless. I don’t know what to say, Pam Long. I think we need to go to break so I can get my brain around this issue. This is crazyville. I’m going to call it crazyville, Colorado, is where we seem to be headed here. And Kathy Russell’s in the studio. We’re going to go to break. We have these discussions because of our sponsors. If you’ve been injured, reach out to John Bozen and Bozen Law.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Check out our website. That’s KimMonsonMonson.com. Do check out the website for the Center for American Values. They are going to have an On Values presentation on Monday evening. And that should be very interesting by Norma Donlon. And they are nonpolitical, nonpartisan, but focus on foundational principles like honor, integrity, and patriotism, and doing great work. So be sure and check that out. Kathy Russell, my friend and president of Liberty Toastmasters North, is in studio. It’s a spirited discussion. Pam Long always… She always has all the information. I don’t know how she does it. Yeah, that’s awesome information. Yeah. Thank you, Pam. Pam Long, you mentioned before we went to break that there is this forced coercion regarding the vaccine schedule. And we’ll be rolling out this important essay this weekend. But this came in on the text line. I never heard this term. She said, did you notice how Polis, governor here in Colorado, was more than happy to push the clot shot, I’ve never heard that term, through lotteries when CDC recommended it during the pandemic and Biden’s reign? But now that real science is taking hold, he wants to go with the APA. She said, who is the king again? I think that’s a valid question. Pam, your thoughts?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, I just want people to recognize marketing. Like just recently, Governor Polis had a lot of backlash for publicly taking the influenza vaccine. Right. And the influenza vaccine has a very low efficacy, very high risk, adverse events, chronic disease. illness can result from the influenza vaccine and so when you see a celebrity or a government official elected official taking a vaccine publicly right but we should all regard we should not be asking people about their vaccine decisions or any of their health decisions when you see someone kind of breaking out of that and making a public spectacle or display of their vaccine decision they are influenced by the pharmaceutical industry they were told to go on october 1st I mean, all sorts of celebrities and government officials did this on October 1st to kick up influenza season. It’s a sales season. It’s a marketing gimmick. We should recognize it for what it is.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, and I think that’s an excellent segue into the next thing that you’re highlighting, and that is that the American Academy of Pediatrics in blue states, you mentioned that they were suing, but they’re going rogue on these vaccine recommendations.
SPEAKER 07 :
They’re going wrong. Nearly every state has now implemented via legislation like here in Colorado or an executive order from the governor or what we call standing orders where doctors and pharmacists have just made an order where they’re going to go rogue and they’re going to keep recommending these vaccines. Now, this is a capitalist country. If you want these products, they’re available to you. You can go get them. And often three of charge. They’re covered by insurance and other programs. No one’s saying you can’t get these. What I’m saying is the deception is that some of these products are not recommended. And I should cover some of the other changes. So the MMR vaccine in the varicella, which is chickenpox, there’s a combination vaccine that is no longer recommended. So that is the other big change from the ACIP, the committee. And then they postponed the vote on the hepatitis B vaccine. I do want to talk about this is a controversial vaccine. It is Hepatitis B is a liver disease caused by a virus. It’s transmitted through bodily fluids, typically sexual conduct or shared needles. being an iv drug user is the most common risk for this disease and infected pregnant mothers can pass the disease to their infants but this is extremely rare we’re talking less than a thousand cases a year we have universal screening for pregnant women that we you are screened do you have hepatitis b and the controversy is here is why are we giving an stc vaccine to every single newborn baby on day one of life And because it does have a risk profile, it’s associated with febrile seizures. Febrile seizures can be devastating to an infant. It’s considered life-threatening in the first month of life. So you will see the ACIP committee in the near future decide if we want to postpone this vaccine to a recommendation at one month old. Most other countries who use this vaccine are giving it at two to three months old. I would say every parent should question if their child needs an STD vaccine on the first day of life or in the first 18 years of life.
SPEAKER 17 :
But did you say that the mother could be screened to see if she has this? Well, that seems like that would be the thing to do. And then the mothers that do have that, then probably a recommendation for their infant for that would make sense. But I don’t get this.
SPEAKER 07 :
You are making total sense right now, even as a layperson. And I have read through all the transcripts of the ACIP committee. You know how they justify this? Well, they usually use one anecdotal case and that’s what they did with this. They said, well, one time there was one mother who miscommunicated that she was hepatitis B positive and her infant was impacted and contracted hepatitis B. One mother, one time. And now every single baby in America receives the hepatitis B vaccine on the first day of life before we know anything about their health, their contraindications, their allergies for a disease they do not have and their mothers most likely do not have.
SPEAKER 17 :
But just think about from a profit motive or from the profit mode, if you can get government to force people or coerce people to have to use your product, And that’s a big moneymaker. So, for example, if Polis would force everybody that they had to listen to the Kim Monson show and contribute to support us, boy, then I wouldn’t have to be working so hard as an independent broadcaster. Right.
SPEAKER 07 :
And it’s more than profit, Kim. Psychologically, it’s compliance training. If you do not question an STD vaccine for your newborn on the first day of life, if we’ve got that type of control over your decision making that you will not defy authority and medical experts, you will probably get every vaccine on the schedule up to 70 doses. Wow.
SPEAKER 17 :
Goodness. Okay. So in conclusion on this, and again, another important piece that we’ll be rolling out, what do you want people to know about this, Pam Long?
SPEAKER 07 :
The remaining issues that I think the ACIP will cover this year is that the U.S. does not have an active surveillance system for monitoring vaccine reactions and that we are giving, that would be one. Number two would be we’re giving vaccines to pregnant women despite vaccines are not safety tested on pregnant women and that violates the ethics of do no harm. And three, that the vaccine information sheets that parents get at the pediatrician’s office do not give proper informed consent on vaccine risk. They do not mention that disability and death are real risks of vaccines.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay. A question here, Pam, and this is from Gammy. She said, does the CDC Foundation fund research paid by pharma, which then gives that data to CDC? So I think she’s saying that there’s a big circle here.
SPEAKER 07 :
What she’s saying is regulatory capture, where the pharmaceutical companies have completely captured nearly every federal agency and a medical association that people would regard as experts.
SPEAKER 17 :
Goodness. Okay, scientist, president of Liberty Toastmasters North, Kathy Russell, kind of your final thought on all this.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, well, Pam, you are just a bright shining light of information. Thank you so much.
SPEAKER 07 :
I don’t know if we can say this is a bright shining light.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, you’re shining a bright light on a big bad problem.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, I guess that’s it. And then I just want to revisit this, that the state of Colorado is basically forcing, coercing, parents to get vaccinations for their kids under expulsion, you know, threat of expulsion from school or daycare. But in the rulemaking, the CD, is it the CD, the CDPHE said that basically children that are here illegally, they don’t have to do that.
SPEAKER 07 :
And this has already been drafted. It was requested for rulemaking here in October. It will be voted on by the Board of Health in December. And unless there’s massive public backlash, it will be approved in rulemaking in December.
SPEAKER 17 :
Goodness. Okay. Well, Pam Long, first, and how do you stay on top of all this? i can read kim that i advocate literacy everyone should be read i i spend zero time on like other sources of entertainment beyond reading like that is my only hobby in this season of life well and that to that point uh i always i love to read as well and the fact that our kids uh in some school districts 70 of our kids that are in third grade cannot read and write and do arithmetic at grade level, but yet they are questioning whether or not they’re a boy or a girl. That is a real problem. But if people cannot read, then that’s a way, again, another way that there can be these kings over us because people can’t read. And so connecting that dot as well. Pam Long, as always, I greatly appreciate you. Thank you. Thank you both. Have a good day. And Kathy, these discussions are so important, but to be able to read, communicate Liberty Toastmasters, I would recommend that people add that into their repertoire.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, absolutely. It’s just such great training. The people who come out of there are amazing. Like you’ve been with Toastmasters and Heidi Ganahl. I saw her yesterday and she is just so articulate and she got her training with Liberty Toastmasters.
SPEAKER 17 :
It’s a great way to go. It really is. Liberty Toastmasters North meets in Longmont the second and fourth Saturdays of each month. And Liberty Toastmasters Denver meets the first and third Saturdays of each month in Denver at Independence Institute. We would love to have you join us. And you can be a guest, but it really helps you to be able to communicate so much better. And our quote for the end of the show is from Maggie Thatcher. She said… Socialists cry, power to the people, and raise their clenched fist as they say it. But we all know what they really mean. Power over the people. Power to the state. So, my friends, today be grateful. Read great books. Think good thoughts. Listen to beautiful music. Communicate and listen well, if honestly and authentically. Strive for high ideals. And like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you’re not alone. God bless you. God bless America. And we will talk with you tomorrow.
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