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Join Kim Monson as she delves into the current political climate, discussing the increasing power struggles within state and local governments. With insightful discussions and interviews, Kim sheds light on the issues surrounding tyranny and freedom, encouraging listeners to engage in meaningful conversations. This episode also features a special segment celebrating the stories of valor from the recent event at the Center for American Values.
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With what is happening down at the Statehouse, I used to think that it was above my pay grade to read the legislation, and it’s not.
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I see big danger in as much as we will be giving an unelected bureaucrat the power to make rules about what we inject into our bodies.
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Is it freedom or is it force? Let’s have a conversation.
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Indeed. Let’s have a conversation. And welcome to the Kim Monson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You eat your treasure. You’re valued. You have purpose. Today, strive for excellence. Take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. Thank you to the team. That’s Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, Amanda, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Thursday. Two weeks till Thanksgiving, Producer Joe. Happy Thursday, Kim. And we are pre-recording some amazing interviews that we’ll be broadcasting the week of Thanksgiving. We like to pre-record for the week of Thanksgiving, Christmas, Easter, and the Fourth of July. We work like maniacs so we can take some time off. Marshall Dawson is in studio, my good friend. And you’ve been guest hosting. I’ve been guest host, yeah.
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Do you like that? I do. I really do. It’s one of those things that’s a little bit excruciating, but a lot exciting.
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It is. And it’s a lot with all the clock management, but great guests. And I really appreciate you guest hosting, and it’s great to have you co-hosting today because our buddies, our fellow Liberty Toastmasters, are our featured guests in this hour.
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Liberty Toastmasters Day is upon us again. It is. And it’s just really a pleasure to be here, Kim.
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Well, it’s good to have you. Check out our website. That is kimmonson.com. Make sure that you’re signed up for our weekly email newsletter as well. And you’ll get our newsletter that goes out on Sundays and get first look at our upcoming guests as well as our most recent essays. You can email me at kim at kimmonson.com. And the text line is 720-605-0647. I’m even a little behind on text messages now. But it’s been a really busy week. I was down in Pueblo on Tuesday evening, Veterans Day. It was the 15th anniversary for the Center for American Values. And they had a lovely event for some of their major donors there. I emceed the event. And Orson Swindle was the keynote speaker. He is a Marine. He’s 88 years old. And I have interviewed him for America’s Veterans Stories. I met him up at Cooper’s Troopers. But he was… A POW. He was a pilot, and he was shot down over North Vietnam, and he was in captivity for over 2,000 days. And for two years, he was, well, off and on, I think, he and John McCain were in the same cell with a bunch of other guys. But really an excellent speech, and congratulations to Drew Dix and Brad Padula. They are the… co-founders. Drew is a Medal of Honor recipient for actions he took during the Vietnam War. But it was a great evening. So Alan Thomas guest hosted yesterday because I’ve tried to be in two places at the same time, Marshall, but never successfully.
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Well- Keep trying, Kim. No, that sounds like an amazing event. I saw that on your newsletter and really wanted to get down there, but there was no way that I was going to be able to get away from work. Sounds really amazing.
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Well, now that we’re getting into the holidays, I can’t believe this weather right now. We’ve had times where the weather is balmy like this around Thanksgiving, and then we’ve had below zero weather and snow as well. But I would really recommend that people put that on their bucket list and to take the kids down, it really does change your life to just see these portraits of valor. And so I’d really recommend that people get that on their bucket list and try to get that done at some point. It’s a really special place.
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Well, I can only imagine. So I would say yes. We have so many organizations doing great work, and I think we take so much of it for granted. We don’t really get the opportunity to appreciate it. and know how wonderful they are until we take the time to get there. I always say, hey, you know, you live in Colorado. You should act like a tourist. You should get out and see some of these things.
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That’s a really good idea. Somebody, I was talking with some of the guests, and the portraits of valor of all of these Medal of Honor recipients, and they have quotes there as well, of each of them. And somebody said that the only other place that you can see these portraits of these Medal of Honor recipients is at the Pentagon. And we can’t get into the Pentagon to see it. And so the fact that we have it right here in Colorado, in Pueblo, on the Riverwalk, which is so cool, I’d really recommend that. But congratulations to Drew and Brad and the whole team for 15 years.
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Well, fantastic. Is that really true, that the only other place you can see that is the Pentagon?
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That’s what somebody told me, so I’m going with it. So that website to get more information is AmericanValueCenter.org, AmericanValueCenter.org, and they are doing fabulous, fabulous work. Our word of the day is tyrannical. There seems to be a lot of tyranny going on around here. and tyrannical spell t-y-r-a-n-n-i-c-a-l it could be using showing or relating to the unfair and cruel use of power over other people in a country group etc and i know that we’re all concerned about the headline of mandani being elected to mayor of new york but You’ve been watching local government, Marshall. I have as well. And we are actually seeing those kinds of policies. Just the name’s not there, but we’ve seen those and we are seeing those policies of shutting down people’s voices. I’m seeing it from both sides of the aisle as well, which is very frustrating regarding local and county government. And so we’re seeing it right here.
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Yeah, you’re right. And speaking of both sides of the aisle, I keep my eye on red states here and there. And just because a state is ruled by Republicans, don’t fall for the trap that it’s necessarily all about freedom and no force. It does come from both sides. We have to be careful and call it out where we see it.
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We really do. So we’ve got a jam-packed show for you. Probably the main headline is that an agreement has been reached to reopen the government. I’m wondering what that agreement is, and we’ll have all these pundits saying different things. But the government is reopened. So any thoughts on that, Marshall?
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It is. I wouldn’t sit on that headline for too long because it’s going to come due again in January, I feel.
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This is so irresponsible.
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Isn’t it, though?
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And you have run for Congress.
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I have, yeah.
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And I know there are many that are hoping you will run again.
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No comment.
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No comment on that. Okay. Our quote of the day is from Alexander Hamilton. He was born in, they don’t know, 1755 or 1757. But they do know he died in 1804 because it was in a duel. and he was an American military officer, statesman, and founding father. He was the first U.S. Secretary of the Treasury under the presidency of George Washington. He was born out of wedlock in Charleston, Nevis, which I think that’s one of the islands. He was orphaned as a child and taken in by a prosperous merchant. He was given a scholarship and pursued his education at King’s College, which is now Columbia in New York. Despite his young age, he was an anonymous but prolific and widely read philosopher. pamphleteer and advocate for the american revolution i think it’s important to note he was an unplanned pregnancy and yet uh he was born and he he went on to do amazing things for our country so just because a pregnancy is unplanned uh doesn’t mean that maybe you should should abort i think yeah you’re right you just never know right i don’t know the history of abortion kim do you i mean was that even a thing back then You know, I don’t know for sure, but Margaret Sanger, who was the founder of Planned Parenthood, she was really a racist. She really was pushing Planned Parenthood. And you see a lot of Planned Parenthoods in – You know, black neighborhoods and it’s a travesty. And so I think it’s important to make a point of what he was an amazing contribution. And he said this, though, when a government betrays the people by amassing too much power and becoming tyrannical. The people have no choice but to exercise their original right of self-defense to fight the government. We’re at that time right now, and we are in a battle of ideas, and so we need to engage in this battle of ideas, and there are so many people that are doing that. Marshall Dawson.
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You were talking about Mondani earlier and reflecting on the word of the day, which is tyrannical. Look, is it tyrannical if it’s democratic socialism? No. Of course, I know that it is, right? I mean, this is all rhetorical. But, you know, the other side would say, well, no, we’re not socialists. We’re democratic socialists. It’s completely different. But it’s completely not.
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Another word for democratic could be mob rule.
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Tearing up the majority.
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Exactly. Good point. On the line with us is Karen Gorday. She stepped forward. She ran for Lakewood City Council. She’s an entrepreneur. She’s the owner of Radiant Painting and Lighting. I got to see her last night. The girls were over last night. Karen Gorday, welcome to the show. Good morning, Kim. Thanks for having me. It was a little, I guess, not humorous, but humorous. You said you have so much work to do in your business because you had focused so much on this campaign. It takes so much for regular people to step away from their businesses and their families, Karen, to run for office. And I so thank you for doing that.
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Absolutely. It was actually, it was fun. So, and I met a lot of people I wouldn’t have met otherwise. So, um, However, you do have to have some thick skin if you’re going to jump into the political arena.
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Well, I know that you are taking the things that you learned and you’re going to augment those. But let’s get over here to your business. Two weeks from today is Thanksgiving, Karen Gorday, which means on the day after Thanksgiving, people can turn their Christmas lights on, right? Right.
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That is correct, and so we are installing lights every day this week into next week, and we still have room on our schedule, but it’s a lot of fun.
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And the weather, having the weather nice is probably nice, too.
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That, absolutely, because I remember last year we were installing lights early November, and it was very cold, and we even had snow. We had to kind of shovel or, you know, take a a large broom and clear off a foot or two of the roof line so we could actually not slip and fall off a roof and wait for it to melt to get lights installed. So I am enjoying this warmer weather and getting to put lights on people’s houses just to brighten up their house and their neighborhood. It’s a lot of fun.
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Well, and you also do residential, but you also do install for commercial as well, right? That is correct, yes. Okay. Last night, you cracked me up also. You brought over an example. You had a string of lights. And, in fact, I was thinking about this. I saw somebody had some Halloween lights up, and they looked pretty cool. But the strand was a little too long, and so you saw it was going down the side of the house. And I thought, oh, that is so difficult to get it just right. But you know how to get the lights on just right. Right.
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Exactly. So we cut the lights specific to every house. So the lights or the cords comes on a spool. You know, it’s a pretty large spool. And we cut them to the length of the gutters so you don’t have that hanging down off the side. And then we have our own extension cord that, you know, make sure that is the right length so you don’t have tons of cords. And we try to hide them, make sure that they’re not going to, you know, cause trip hazards, et cetera, and have a lot of fun doing it. I think the most challenging one we had last year was we decorated, so it was a newer house development where they had the front yard and a sidewalk and then They had another strip of grass with some trees and then the street. And they wanted the trees on the street lit as well as the tree in their front yard. And we had to run extension cord across the sidewalk. Oh, okay. So we got pretty creative and there was no trip hazards. So, yeah.
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Well, and one other thing, Karen, you know, I hadn’t thought about this, but sometimes the hooks don’t, you know, attach to wherever you want it to. So you now have magnets as well. This is cool.
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Yes. And so we’ve got three or four different types of clips depending on the house. They have gutters or no gutters. Sometimes there’s no gutters on the front. So we’ve got shingle tabs. We’ve got, like I said, all different types of clips. But one of the things we have are magnets, and the socket sits in the base and has little flaps for the cord, and so the lights will stay in the right place, the cord will not hang, and it stands up to the wind, and it’s a pretty amazing solution.
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Okay, well, how can people reach you, Karen Gorday, if they’d like to get some lights up?
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They can go to our website, which is www.paintwithradiant.com or give me a call at 720-940-3887.
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And that is www.paintwithradiant.com. Karen, thank you. We’ll talk with you next week.
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Sounds great. Thanks so much, Kim.
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Good morning, Kim. It’s Liberty Toastmasters Day, so we’ll be talking to some of our fellow club members later in the show.
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They will be our featured guests. Meanwhile, we have Mary Jansen on the line, one of my fellow Colorado Union of Taxpayers board members. Mary Jansen, welcome to the show. Good morning, Kim. Good morning, Marshall. So glad to be with you. Good morning. So you have been busy with, as you know, with CUT, Colorado Union of Taxpayers. We are an all-volunteer group. We’ve gotten our ratings report published, and we are distributing that as we speak. It’s a monumental piece of work. All volunteers. We took positions, I think, on almost 270 bills, Mary. But one of the bills, House Bill 25-13-27… is something that’s been of great concern as you are working on this referendum out in Lakewood with pushing back on, I consider it somewhat tyrannical government out there, Mary.
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Well, it is our First Amendment rights, is it not, to have grievances with our government and to petition them. So, yes, we are working on a referendum against some zoning that was pushed on the whole city. instead of just doing targeted areas, which probably would have gone okay, but they decided to do the whole city. And I think you spoke with Karen Miller and John about this, but I’ve got to deal with the petition end of it and the circulation and what this bill, we found firsthand how it is kind of ham hocked us in some ways.
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What is so amazing – now, Mary, we didn’t take a position on that at CUT. And looking back, we probably should have, but there were so many different bills there. But this particular bill makes it more difficult for everyday citizens to run petitions, really to redress the government. And I’ve said the other side, and when I say the other side, the radical activists – that have taken over the Democrat Party. It’s important for people to understand when you’re voting Democrat now, you’re not voting for JFK, your grandpa and your grandma Democrats. These are radical activists like a Mondami that want control of our neighborhoods and our communities, Mary.
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Yes, I mean, they can change the rules. So it makes it harder for us to have our First Amendment rights and just think of how many other rights they can take away from us just by them changing the rules.
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And that’s why you served on city council, and I did as well, even at the local level. We take an oath to uphold the Constitution. I think that means we need to uphold the Constitution at the local level as well, Mary.
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Oh, yes, definitely. Everyone should probably read the Constitution. They should read their city charters, and they should read their state legislations. I know it’s huge, but if you don’t know it, they can take it away from you if you don’t know your rights. and that they can control you because you don’t know.
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But I also think, Mary, that they are making it so huge, and it just overwhelms people. But yet they are passing legislation down there that they have not read, and yet they’re putting that into law. So the people that are writing the legislation are the ones that are really controlling us.
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Correct. And we don’t know who’s writing that legislation.
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Many times, I think it’s really interested parties. So I’m trying to find this 1327. It seemed to me like we had some other, it was signed by the governor, and it seemed like maybe we had some Republicans on that. I’ve got to check that. But tell us exactly what you’re running up against.
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So the first thing was this seven-day that, and our city clerk said, It was kind of like they were using part of our municipal laws and the state laws. So they were picking and choosing which laws that they could use to make it harder for us. So the first one was the seven-day, when we take it in, the title board, which is like the city clerk, can take up to seven days to approve the petition.
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Now, why is that important?
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Because we only had 45 days to get signatures from the time that we initiated our petition. So we had 45 days, and the clock starts, and then the city clerk has to write the summary. So the city clerk writes the summary. We don’t. And then after we write it, we send it in, and then he has up to seven days to approve that, and he took… complete seven days to five o’clock. It’s actually five minutes to five o’clock on the seventh day he took to approve those. And then we could start printing, which took, you know, five days, maybe three days. It depended on how many we needed, but we needed like 60 petitions to get this to work. And yes, so that was the first hump we had to get over. We did that. And then we have this 75%. When we reached 75% of the required number of signatures for the petition, we had to let him know.
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And if you didn’t, my understanding is there was penalties and or fines?
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Yes, a fee, a fine of $1,500 per the petitioner, which would have been John and Karen, would have had to each pay $1,500 if we did not let them know when it reached 75% of the required number of signatures. So that took a lot of texting. And luckily we had a crew that was just amazing. And these people were just regular citizens, Kim. I have to tell you, a lot of them had never done this before. We had a huge training with each one of them. And we decided to do an individual training with each one of them instead of group training. And then it worked really well. And these people were amazing. They came out of their neighborhoods. Most of them were old ladies, little old ladies. Some of them were on oxygen. They were out there getting their signatures. And one lady said to me, she said, Mary, I said, no, Christine, are you going to be able to do this? She just had back surgery. And she said, well, I can try. And I was really hesitant to give her a petition. At first, because I thought, well, she’s not going to be able to do this because of her condition. And I was concerned about her. And then she came back with her 100 signatures.
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Isn’t that amazing? So, hey, I looked it up, and also Karen Gorday just texted me on this House Bill 1327, 25-1307. It was all Democrats. There was no Republicans on it. It was Emily Sirota, Meg Froelich, both representatives, and Senator Kathy Kipp. And so those are the people that ran the bill to take away our voices, basically. That’s the bottom line.
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That’s the bottom line. I don’t know if any Republicans voted for it. But it sure made it a lot harder. And we were the first ones with that 75%. And I tell you, the first part, since we had four different ones to do, we figured out how to do it. But it’s time. It’s more time. It’s more time away from your family. It’s more time away from your work. Yeah. So they do make it harder. And it’s like these people… make the rules, and we have to follow them. And they’re making it harder and harder. It’s an infringement. It’s an infringement. We almost need an infringement clause on our First Amendment rights.
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We definitely do. OK, so give us the status. The other thing is, is when when my understanding, again, when the staff, the bureaucrats and the politicians in Lakewood and the interested parties realized that the citizens were concerned or were going to step forward on all this zoning, they broke it into four parts and then heard it at four different meetings. which means to push back, you’d have to have four different petitions. Again, this is – and your city manager out there makes just south of $400,000 in salary, which is unbelievable. So where are you at? What’s the status on everything?
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So we’ve turned in our three of the four petitions already, and we had a good margin ahead of what was required. So we’re pretty confident. A lot of the kids, a lot of the kids, a lot of the people that were out there getting the signatures, they were actually validating those signatures before looking up, making sure people had the correct name as they voted with and that they were voted, they were Lakewood voters. So we had that beforehand. So we’re pretty confident in the numbers. And our fourth petition is not due until, oh my gosh, I think it’s the first week of December. So we should have them all turned in to the city by that date. And we’re pretty confident that people have spoken. They really want to see this on the ballot. They want to vote for it instead of having 11 people just cram it down to change the city so drastically.
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Okay, well, Mary Jansen, you’re doing great work, and thank you so much. And again, many of our CUT board members were involved in this as well because we stand for property rights, protecting the taxpayer, protecting TABOR, Colorado’s Taxpayers Bill of Rights, and parental rights. Thank you. And we’d recommend that people join us. We’re all volunteers. It’s only $25 a year. That’s $2.08 a month, less than a cup of coffee. And Mary Jansen, as always, thanks for all that you do.
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Thank you, Kim.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. And are you craving real New York-style pizza and pasta? Little Richie’s and Parker and Golden have you covered. Authentic New York flavor with Colorado roots. They offer daily specials and weekday lunch deals. And they have a happy hour worth planning around. They are your neighborhood favorite. And they’re always serving something up worth stopping for. And again, that’s Little Richie’s Pizza in Parker and in Golden. My good friend… Marshall Dawson is in studio. He is the president of Liberty Toastmasters North.
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Well, good morning, Kim. I am. And we are doing this Liberty Toastmasters Day today. Our theme today is the reflections on outcomes of the election. And my favorite part of this, what an active and engaged citizen should focus on. But before we get going, before we bring up Rick, this is a good opportunity to say Toastmasters is a 501c3 organization. And As a club, we do not engage in politics. However, as individuals and practicing speaking, we sometimes do talk about politics. So if we talk about anything partisan or whatnot, that’s going to be the opinions of the person that you’re hearing. And I should say it’s not a statement coming from Liberty Toastmasters. And our first speaker today is Rick Rome. Rick, welcome to the show. I hope I didn’t just blow you out of the water here with that caveat.
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No, I appreciate that, Marshall. And in fact, with that caveat, I would extend it to say that although those opinions are mine and mine alone, they should be yours because they’re good opinions. Look, Rick. Look, there’s a couple of wonderful things that happen this time of year. One is daylight savings time. Reminds us to change the batteries in our clocks, all those kinds of things. One is election day. Happens to coincide with things around Halloween, which is a scary time. Things around Thanksgiving, which are also times to reflect and be grateful for what we have. But we’re looking at, I look at this time of year as a time of preparation and reflection. And that has a lot to do with the elections. But I’m reminded mostly of a story that kind of got me involved in this in the first place. We were doing some, well, this has been years ago, doing a promotion for Toastmasters at the conservative summit because we would be able to find people who are very interested and engaged already in that environment. And I came across a candidate who’d lost horribly in the primary election. I think this guy got six votes, and three of them are from his mother’s knitting club. And one just refused to vote for him. And he told me, Rick, you have a choice when you’re trying to convince people out on the trail. You can scare them, in which case they will run to safety and stop. There’s a lot of politics that do that. And that’s really what election days are focused around, why we see so many negative ads. The other choice that you have if you have a message that you want to get out is you can inspire people. And if you inspire people, they will cross burning deserts. They will swim the deep oceans. They will climb the highest mountains because they believe in a cause and they have passion for it. And that’s kind of the place that I think that we’re at right now, Kim and Marshall, is we’re at that choice between inspiration. Whether we focus on elections, go and do battle, dance with the devil, scare people, treat them like cattle because some of them choose to behave like cattle, and scare them to safety and try to get the votes in our favor. Perceive safety. Use that tactic. Yeah, perceive safety. Perceive safety. Very good point. Or we can get involved in the community or we can get involved in a cause. Let our passion guide us. Work with homeless outfits. Work with food banks. Snap funds were cut out. Maybe food banks are a great opportunity to feed people. Find that passion in your life and tie just a little bit of your time to it. That’s really the distinction that I see after these elections because the outcome is invariably the same no matter who we put in office or what measures we vote for. It’s about raising taxes, securing power on the elections. You’re dancing with the devil. If you really want to commit your time to something, find something that matters in your community. Follow your passions. Now, both of these paths lead to the same place. You can’t do either without being able to articulate your position, and that’s where Toastmasters comes in. We have the opportunity to be able to clearly express our ideas, get them out into the open, and inspire people and motivate them to either do battle or find compassion.
SPEAKER 05 :
Love that, Rick Rome. And absolutely, Marshall and I were talking offline how important these communication skills are. Rick Rome, thank you.
SPEAKER 21 :
Thanks, Rick. I liked Rick’s comments on the negative ads. And what we really need to be doing is inspiring. And to inspire us here next is Greg Morrissey. Welcome to the Kim Monson Show, Greg.
SPEAKER 12 :
Good morning. Thank you very much.
SPEAKER 05 :
And what’s your thoughts on the election and what we should do?
SPEAKER 12 :
My thoughts on the election, you know, elections up here in Boulder County, unfortunately there wasn’t only about 42% of the people voted.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 12 :
And I found that a little disheartening, and a lot of people didn’t get involved. And the thing that I’m, when I’m walking around talking to people and that type of stuff, and they’re complaining about this and they’re complaining about that, well, if you didn’t like that politician but that person is in office, go to the meetings that that person has. Get to know that person. Build a relationship with them. Get to know their staff. You can get a good communication and get a good point of view across where bills come down with local city bills, county bills, and state bills. Go out and get to know the person, even if you disagree with them. You can agree and disagree correctly. You don’t have to be rough and tough about it. Do some research on what their points of view are and bring your point of view to them to understand it, especially nowadays with things going on and to do with budget. How important is budget for a city, state, and counties to function? You can go online and find it and look into it and start asking some really good questions and speak to as many as your friends can do. If you get a bunch of people going in there with you to discuss and talk correctly, you can make the difference.
SPEAKER 05 :
Excellent choice. We’ve been complacent and apathetic. And, Greg, we’re at a time of choosing right now, and the choice should be to get engaged. Greg Morrissey, thank you.
SPEAKER 21 :
Thank you. You’re welcome. Thank you, Greg. And our next caller is Ross Clark from the Denver Club. Welcome to the show, Ross.
SPEAKER 11 :
Thanks. Thank you so much. Yeah, what I’d like to talk about today is kind of piggybacking on what Rick was saying, and that’s the importance of getting out positive messaging when you’re campaigning. And we could see that historically, time and time again, that the person or the candidates that did a better job at that are the ones that ended up winning. And The ones that did a bunch of negative campaigning, a lot of times they ended up losing. And part of the positive messaging is you actually have to have, if you’re in power, you actually have to have some good accomplishments. And unfortunately, our Congress right now has not done a whole lot that a lot of people can get excited about. And that’s where I think they got lost. They could have done a lot better, and a lot of Republicans ended up losing when they didn’t have to. And I’m just talking about basic things, such as they could have done things like the nationwide concealed carry going, which I think would excite a lot of people. Those sorts of things are positive things that improve people’s rights. And unfortunately, that completely got missed. And the messaging wasn’t where it should have been. So hopefully they’ll learn from their errors next time around and have a more positive election. And there’s some other problems as well, like having a shutdown doesn’t help. You’re missing economic data, which you could use as part of your positive messaging, things like that. So there’s a lot of things that went wrong. But getting that positive messaging across is crucial. And part of that is actually having accomplishments, especially if you’re in power.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, taking a stand. Last night, Ross, the girls were over. We were talking about different candidates and some of the candidates that decided, hey, they were going to go down. They were going to play middle of the road. And I just made the comment, when you’re standing in the middle of the road, you get run over.
SPEAKER 11 :
That could happen, yeah. That is a risk of doing that.
SPEAKER 05 :
Ross Clough, thank you so much.
SPEAKER 21 :
Thanks, Ross. You know, somebody else talking about a positive message. This is really encouraging. Well, next up, Kim, is Fred Clifford. He’s one of our club members in Denver also. Welcome to the show, Fred.
SPEAKER 15 :
Thank you. And thank you, Kim. Yeah, I’m probably not going to say a whole lot different. You know, the… The elections I was following recently, none of them went the way they wanted to. So it’s been going that way for quite a while. So I think I have three points, but maybe it’s four. But the central theme is pony up. I think everybody needs to be engaged. And one thing you don’t hear a lot of is run for office. You know, Marshall, I know you’ve run for office. And Ross, the person before me, he’s run for office. And you’re not too old. You’re not too young. young you’re not too tall you’re not too short you’re not too pretty you’re not too ugly you know any anybody could run for office and uh and the other thing is people that i have run once Consider running. If things didn’t work out the first time, Kim, your friend Ramey, she lost the first time, and then she won the second time she ran. I know a number of people that did that. They did not win the first time around, and then they tried it again.
SPEAKER 05 :
Abraham Lincoln, Fred. Abraham Lincoln.
SPEAKER 15 :
That’s true. He did win. I think he did win one or two before he ran for president. I think he was a U.S. congressman.
SPEAKER 05 :
But he lost some of those elections before that. So we can take heart from that.
SPEAKER 15 :
That’s true. Right. And the other thing is, if you’re not going to run for office, well, for instance, you might find somebody who can. The other thing is, there’s lots of volunteer opportunities. I mean, if all you have is a half hour in a two-year cycle… Give it the best in that half hour. But I think most people could do a lot more than that. And personally, I never did a maximum contribution financially for the first time until 2018. So since then, I’ve been doing it every time around. Well, except for when I ran myself, but mine was more than the max because a candidate doesn’t have a limit. So… uh, donate, volunteer, knock on doors, make phone calls, you know, some of the stupid stuff like standing on an intersection, waving signs. That doesn’t do much, but do some real work. And I think the third thing, or maybe it’s the fourth thing. I don’t remember. Um, We’ve been losing so much, it’s frustrating, and everybody’s beating each other up. We’ve got to drop the division stuff. It’s totally nonproductive. So we need to spend that much energy we have fighting against each other and fight to win elections. So that’s the ball I have, as condensed as I can make it.
SPEAKER 05 :
Fred Clifford, thank you so much. And it’s always fun to hear what everybody has to say, Marshall. And we’re going to go to break. But wanted to mention Lorne Levy, great sponsor of the show for Everything Mortgages. He can help you in 49 of the 50 states, just not New York. But I’m not sure a lot of people are moving into New York. So as you’re moving out, he can help you with your mortgage in any other state.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. In studio with me is my friend Marshall Dawson. He is the president of Liberty Toastmasters North. We have two Liberty Toastmasters.
SPEAKER 21 :
That’s right. We do have two clubs, and they meet on Saturdays. The one in Denver meets at the Independence Institute on the first and third Saturdays, 10 a.m., We have Liberty Toastmasters North in Longmont, which meets on the second and fourth Saturdays, also 10 a.m. And I first met our next speaker here at the one in Longmont, and he occasionally comes to the one in Denver as well. And on the line right now to give us his reflections on the election is Dave Walden.
SPEAKER 12 :
Dave, welcome. Good morning. Good morning, Kim and Marshall. You know, there’s so much to say about this reflections on the election. Three minutes just isn’t adequate. But in addition to whatever disappointment or disheartening I may have felt, it also reminded me of something. And I want to share that, at least one or two aspects of it. The event whereby Musk bought Twitter… to me represents an extinction event. Extinction of what? Well, initially, extinction of what is commonly termed establishment media. Whatever other political life forms it may end remain to be seen, this recent episode of the shutdown represents, in my judgment, continued die-off from that impact. The new life forms that have arisen within the carcass of the Democrat organism, represents evolution to be dealt with by what I would term as natural selection, with homage to Darwin. Enter Mamdani and a number of others. Now, where did they come from? Well, he came out of the blue, but I assure you, that he has been being championed by a number of whatever other organisms I hope will become extinct by Musk’s purchase of Twitter. And what I mean by that is, is that every year we graduate an entire culture, subculture of socialists at a minimum. And they enter our culture and will vote. And they arise. And what we are now witnessing and what I was reminded of by these recent elections is there’s a lot of them. And so the bottom line that I wanted to end my comment on my reflections of the election is this. Unless or until Republicans, independents, and even Democrats that understand what has happened to them can get together and become united on a focus of turning school choice into the civil rights issue of the 21st century. We’re going to continue to graduate a mass of these people that will continue. I mean, the bottom line, Tim Marshall, these are not public. This is not public education. This is government education, whether it’s public schools or private ones. We are getting government education. And what we need to do is we need to allow the individual, the family members, the people that have the money and pay the taxes that support these institutions to to have school choice. And I would argue that that issue I was reminded of by the outcome of these recent elections. And that’s pretty much it.
SPEAKER 05 :
Dave, thank you. And you’re absolutely right. And what we’ve seen, Marshall, with these school districts is even the school boards, the radical activists have taken over many of the school boards so that they can continue this government indoctrination movement. And yet using our tax money. And when the girls were over last night, one of the girls said that they were walking their neighborhood, which is primarily people that do not have children in the school district. And so she was really working for some specific school board candidates. And one of the neighbors said, well, I don’t have children, so what? Does it matter? And it’s like, have you looked at your property taxes? You’re paying for this.
SPEAKER 21 :
Absolutely. You know, what did Dave say? That’s about it. That was actually quite a bit, Dave, and I want to say kudos. You made me think of a couple of things there, especially, you know, you started out saying that each year we’re graduating, you know, a new crop of socialists. One of the things that is so tough as a candidate is reaching people. I mean, it’s nirvana, right? Kim, I know you’ve seen this if you’re speaking in public, and you can tell when you have the crowd. With these people that we’re speaking to, having come out of this socialist indoctrination environment, we’re not doing a good enough job of speaking to their pain points. Young people that are voting for people like Mondani, they’re doing so because they would tell us that they can’t afford the lifestyle that they think they deserve. They can’t afford to buy a house. They’re saddled with student loan debt. And I’m not saying, Kim, that we adopt progressive policies in order to address that. But we are certainly doing a horrible job when it comes to giving them solutions to those pain points. When you go in to sell a product to a company, you are addressing that customer’s and that company’s pain point. If I’m trying to sell myself to an employer, that employer has a pain point. I need to tell them, I need to communicate how it is that I’m going to address that pain point. The Republican Party, as politicians, as candidates, we’ve done a pretty rotten job, I think, of that. And I think we need to take some of the blame for these losses that we’re seeing. Let me also comment on something that Fred said. He said, pony up and run for office. There’s more to that call to action, I think, than something so simple as that. You know, if I look out the window and I speak to the front range here, Kim, I know that everyone is not in a place where they can run for office. They can’t take time away from their career. You know, if you run to go down to Denver, you have to take time away from your job and be away, maybe that costs you your job. You know, certainly when I ran for Congress, I was looking at a career change. But here’s what I want to say. It’s also important that we find people to run for office. So if you’re unable to be that candidate, I want to call on everyone to tap into your networks. Help us find that next person who can step up and do that, even if you can’t. And even if that becomes a challenge, look, let’s adopt a candidate program. When candidates do come around, Donate money to them. Donate time. This is something that is such a scarcity, is that money and that help. You know, the shoe leather on the ground, getting the word out. If you need help on how to do that for each and every county, you can go to coloGOP.org. That’s the state GOP. Of course, I’m speaking from a Republican point of view. This is nonpartisan. The Democrats probably have the same thing. But you can go there and find the contact information for your county party. And, you know, sometimes you’re going to see some disorganization. Kim, you’re going to see why they need your help so much. Yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, and there’s much to do. We have much to do. And there’s really two things. One is engaging in this battle of ideas with people also. And Gammy had texted me. We also want to make sure that we have elections, that we are free, fair, honest, and transparent. And that’s something also that we’ve worked. We are working diligently on here at the Kim Monson Show as well. It’s great to have you. Are you going to be able to stay for the next hour?
SPEAKER 21 :
I’m going to be sticking around, yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
Great. And we have Kurt Gerwitz, who will be in studio as well.
SPEAKER 21 :
Oh, I have to leave.
SPEAKER 05 :
And our quote for the end of the show is from Alexander Hamilton. And he said this, there is a certain enthusiasm in liberty that makes human nature rise above itself in acts of bravery and heroism. And I think speaking to this idea of inspiring people, this American idea is something that we can inspire people. We need to understand that and communicate it. And so, my friends, today be grateful. Read great books. Think good thoughts. Listen to beautiful music. Communicate and listen well. Live honestly and authentically. Strive for high ideals. And like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you. God bless America. And stay tuned for hour number two because we’re going to be having Kurt Gerwitz in studio. Marshall Dawson is staying over as well. And we’ll continue to have some great conversations.
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Indeed, let’s have a conversation. And welcome to our number two of the Kim Monson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You each are treasured, you’re valued, you have purpose. Today, strive for excellence. Take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. And thank you to the team. That’s Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, Amanda, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Thursday, Producer Joe. Happy Thursday, Kim. And in studio with me is my two good friends, Marshall Dawson, who is the president of Liberty Toastmasters North. We had many of our buddies on as our featured guests in the first hour talking about the elections and what we need to do.
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah, glad to be here, Kim. We were licking our wounds earlier. I think we had a good discussion, though. So it’s good reflection.
SPEAKER 05 :
It most definitely is. And Mary Jansen called in, who is a board member on Colorado Union of Taxpayers, and I neglected to say thank you to these volunteers that are on the board. And I want to do that. That is Steve Dorman, Greg Golianski, Russ Haas, Bill Hamill, Rob Knuth, John Nelson, Wendy Warner. These folks, all volunteers, have put together a monumental piece of work regarding the 2025 ratings report, which we are distributing now. And with that, I am working on our mailing list to get that cleaned up. And so I’m checking to see who’s members, who’s current. And Marshall Dawson, you are a current member of the Colorado Union of Taxpayers, and we appreciate that.
SPEAKER 21 :
Oh, you saw that.
SPEAKER 05 :
I saw that.
SPEAKER 21 :
Yes. Several years now. I can’t remember when I first joined. And also as a candidate, you know, when I was running for office, I signed that cut pledge, too.
SPEAKER 05 :
which is great. And so we would encourage people to join us at the Colorado Union of Taxpayers. Also in studio with me is my friend, Professor Kurt Gerwitz. It’s good to have you here. It’s great to be here, Kim. Yeah. So we’re going to have a great discussion, and we’re going to jump into it. I always have to say thank yous, and one of those goes to Hooters restaurants. They have locations in Loveland, Westminster, and on Parker Road here in Aurora. You and I are going to go to lunch there later today.
SPEAKER 03 :
I’m going to have the fish tacos again.
SPEAKER 05 :
And I’m going to have the nachos.
SPEAKER 03 :
They should just know when they see us in the parking lot. Go ahead. Get that going.
SPEAKER 05 :
But they’re pretty delicious.
SPEAKER 03 :
It’s tasty. It’s so good.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah.
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It tastes so fresh.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yep. So they have great happy hour specials, lunch specials, and again, great sponsor of the Kim Monson Show and America’s Veterans Stories. So be sure and give them some of your business on that. Our word of the day is tyrannical. It’s T-Y-R-A-N-N-I-C-A-L. It could be using, showing, or relating to the unfair and cruel use of power over other people in a country or group. And we are seeing tyrannical stuff happen at the local, the county, the state, and the federal level. And we really need to know our Constitution, as Mary mentioned that, and then we need to take action on that as well. And… And we need to be able to communicate these particular policies, which is liberty, the responsible exercise of freedom. Our quote of the day, I went to Alexander Hamilton. They don’t know when he was born. He was an unplanned pregnancy. And fortunately, his mother did not abort him because he was such a contributor to the founding of America. And he was born either 1755 or 1757, died in 1804 in a duel, right, Marshall? I think it was Aaron Burr, was that right? That’s right. Yeah, that’s a way to settle your differences, huh?
SPEAKER 03 :
A little barbaric.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, he was an American. So Hamilton was an American military officer, statesman, founding father. He was the first U.S. Secretary of the Treasury under the presidency of George Washington. He was born out of wedlock in one of the islands. He was orphaned as a child and taken in by a prosperous merchant and given a scholarship and pursued his education at King’s College, which is now Columbia University. Hmm. I was just thinking Mondami has some connection with Columbia as well. Columbia, I think, has kind of lost its way since Alexander Hamilton and Marshall.
SPEAKER 21 :
You know, Kim, just a moment ago, I kind of took a detour there when you said that he was born out of wedlock. We were talking about abortion earlier. My brain started wondering, my gosh, what would have happened if Alexander Hamilton had been aborted? Where would we be now? Would we even be now? What would this country be? So he was just a magnificent contributor to our founding. I don’t agree with everything. Same here. Right. But somehow our founders all came together to have the arguments, to express their ideas and create something magical that we’re still trying to hang on to today.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, and to that point is they didn’t agree. He and Jefferson, Hamilton was a Federalist. Jefferson was an Anti-Federalist. But I think they agreed on human liberty. And the battle that we’re in now is with Democrat Socialists. I’m not going to call them Democratic Socialists. I’m not going to give them that word. Democrat Socialists is that they want full control. people’s lives. And they want to destroy America. And I don’t know how you can unite with that. So I think the big, broad middle of America, though, moderate Democrats, unaffiliated, libertarians, conservatives, Republicans, ultimately, I think that we understand deep down that we want liberty, but we’ve got to make the case for that. So this is one of the things that he said, Alexander Hamilton, he said, When a government betrays the people by amassing too much power and becoming tyrannical, the people have no choice but to exercise their original right of self-defense to fight the government. And we are seeing that on the local level through these petitioning processes, people getting engaged in this battle of ideas. And it’s just so important. So with that, though… As you all know, I’m an independent voice. That means I buy my airtime. And we have full control of guests and subject matter. And we do that because of all of your support out there and amazing sponsors. Karen Levine has been a friend of mine for many years. She’s been a sponsor of the Kim Monson Show before the Kim Monson Show. And I so appreciate her support. Got to see her last night. Karen Levine, welcome.
SPEAKER 09 :
Good morning. Good morning. You guys are off to a robust second hour, it sounds like.
SPEAKER 05 :
As always. And you and I were talking last night about what we’re going to talk about. And there is some opportunity in the real estate market. And you mentioned that you’ve got a townhouse that is… Priced very well. And tell us about that. And then I’ll tell you that my question was, I think people are a little concerned about homeowners dues. So talk to that.
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The HOA dues. So I have a beautiful townhome in Arvada. It is priced at $465. It is a three-bedroom, two-and-a-half bath, two-car garage townhome. and it is in move-in condition it has beautiful uh hardwood flooring on the main floor it has a ensuite primary uh with a big walk-in closet so it’s a great property it looks on to the sidewalk green belt area and it’s nestled back into the back of the community so we got to talking about is there pushback because of hoa dues and hoa dues have gone up as has all of our property insurance. And so the dues have gone up because in many cases, property insurance and getting coverage on those townhomes. So the price of HOA dues covers a lot of things that you’re going to cover in a single-family home. It’s just bundled, and so sometimes you’re getting better pricing, and you don’t have the hassle. So I think it’s wise to have good knowledge about what are those dues going towards, and are they being spent wisely? Is your money being spent wisely? Because it’s like… a tax, you know, and we don’t like it when our taxes are not being spent wisely. So there is good opportunity out there in the multifamily condo townhome market, and there are very responsible HOAs out there that are spending their homeowners’ money well and giving them the benefits that those monies should go to.
SPEAKER 05 :
So can you help people out when you’re looking at these homeowners dues and, as you mentioned, spent wisely? And if it’s not, then you run for the homeowners board. But is there a way that you can help them a bit on that, Karen?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yes. So one of the paragraphs in the contract to buy and sell that we utilize to enter into a contractual agreement between buyer and seller, there’s a paragraph that addresses associations homeowner associations and all buyers um have the opportunity through the contract to review the financials of the hoa the bylaws the rules and regulations their articles of incorporation the covenants so that you are aware of what are your obligations if you choose to live in that community. And so you have a period of time to look at those documents. And if you find that it’s something you are not comfortable engaging in over a period of time, because when you buy a home, you plan to stay there. three to five to eight to ten years, then you have the opportunity to terminate that contract and move on. So you do have that opportunity to review them to make sure, you know, this is the community you want to call home.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay, great. Thanks for clarifying that. So I know that you’ve got several great listings. How can people reach you if they want to take a look at that and maybe still get into a new house by Christmas?
SPEAKER 09 :
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SPEAKER 21 :
You got that right. Yeah. In Denver, we meet at the Independence Institute down in the basement. And in Longmont, we borrow the space from the Boulder County Republicans headquarters. So you can find those addresses. You can actually find contact info if you want to reach out and, you know, contact the president. Go to Toastmasters.org and they have a really good find a club feature on their website. Just punch in your address and we’ll pop right up.
SPEAKER 05 :
And even though you meet at the Republican headquarters, Liberty Toastmasters is nonpartisan. It’s not, well, it’s nonpolitical. We tend to many times in practicing our speaking may take political views, but that’s on a personal basis.
SPEAKER 21 :
That’s right. Yeah, we just simply borrow the space from them. And, you know, a few of the individuals will contribute a little bit of money to the Boulder County Republicans. But that’s just kind of as a thank you for letting us use the space. You’re right. It is nonpolitical. It’s not. We are not affiliated with the Boulder County Republicans. It’s not. It’s not like a corporate club. Toastmasters has some of those where maybe your club is sponsored by your company. We actually have no affiliation with the Republicans. We have a lot of friends. I’m not going to sugarcoat that, but, yeah, we only meet in that space.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay. And I met our other guest, Kurt Gerwitz, at Liberty Toastmasters.
SPEAKER 03 :
You know, I was going to say one of my favorite – And Toastmasters, one of the people in Liberty Toastmasters, was a left libertarian. And I just thought she really brought balance to the discussion. It’s certainly not an echo chamber. I mean, everybody in there disagrees on a lot of things. But to have somebody from the left who was fighting for freedom, it was really interesting. She was very educated and smart and great to learn from.
SPEAKER 05 :
And we love that because it helps us hone our skills. It helps us kick the idea and kick the tires on the ideas. And I think that is so important. So let’s talk a little bit about elections. And this came in. Dave Walden, I think, was talking about these government schools. And… And this came in from Jenny. She said, the left has their grooming schools for their bench of candidates. And since socialists live off opium, other people’s money, they have time and money to spend on campaigns. She has absolutely nailed it. And producer Joe had said that, to his knowledge, Mondani hasn’t ever had a real job, Marshall.
SPEAKER 21 :
Joe probably knows better than I do.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, he probably does.
SPEAKER 21 :
I know he did come from a very wealthy family.
SPEAKER 05 :
I think his parents were our professors at Columbia. At least that’s what I heard. I better look that up. If I’m on the air, I better make sure I know what I’m talking about.
SPEAKER 21 :
Well, it wouldn’t surprise us, right? We don’t want alternate facts or fake news here on the Kim Monson Radio Show.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, we don’t. And if we don’t get it right, we want to make sure that we do.
SPEAKER 03 :
I like this expression that if you’re young and you’re not liberal, then you don’t have a heart. But if you’re old and not a conservative, then you don’t have a brain. I know a lot of – we talk about the indoctrination, but when you see people making sort of a move towards the right, it’s after college and they’ve had to pay taxes. When they start to pay taxes, somebody who pays taxes starts to get curious and then they start to discover – that the narratives they were taught, it’s not as simple as the government equals society. And if you don’t help these people through the government methods, then you’re not caring and you don’t love those people. It’s like, no, we don’t need to make that assumption that government equals society. We need to realize that society can take care of itself because of the charity of the individuals and people. and the institutions that help those people, and that they’re doing a much better job than the government would, because every dollar the government touches, they’re going to lose 20%, at least, in fraud, waste, and abuse.
SPEAKER 05 :
And then there’s the amount that has to go by and pay all the bureaucrats and all the interested parties. So, for example, the Proposition LL and Proposition MM. LL was, when they talk about greedy, our kids going to these government schools have been taught that capitalists And employers are greedy and want to take the benefit of their employees. And they’re considered very greedy. And I was at a meeting, Marshall, last week. It was a luncheon. And one of the women says she has about 20 employees. And so what she started to do is they automatically deposit their paychecks into their employees’ Bank accounts, and that happens a lot now. But she is now printing off their pay stub and handing it to them so that they see how much money is being taken by those greedy PBIs, those politicians, bureaucrats, and interested parties.
SPEAKER 21 :
I think that’s a pretty good idea. You know, I get my pay stubs electronically. Do you look at it? Rarely. No. Well, you know, only if I feel like there’s some vacation balance missing or, you know, I get the, what is it, the W-2 at the end of the year and, you know, I did not pay that much in taxes. And, you know, darn if I didn’t, right? Yeah. I think another thing that she could consider is there is so much cost that goes into employing people that doesn’t show up on their pay stub. And if she could start to educate her employees about that as well, that might be a way to start to reach them.
SPEAKER 05 :
I think so. What do you think about that? And Kurt, you’ve worked with a lot of young people as a professor.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes, I do.
SPEAKER 05 :
And you are a young person.
SPEAKER 03 :
I would like to. I identify as a young person. Young at heart. Age is just a number, they tell me.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. So when I was in the clothing business, there was a woman who, she was in her 80s, and she’d worked at all the high-end department stores. She was absolutely delightful, always just dressed perfectly, hair, nails, the whole thing. And she said that age is mind over matter. If you don’t mind, it doesn’t matter. Right. So with that, I’m trying to find here. Mondami is, let’s see, New York. And it says here that he was born to Indian-American filmmaker Mira Nair and Ugandan scholar Mahmood Mondami. And it says Nair was born to his mother in Rurkeli in the eastern Indian state of Odisha in 1957. And then, let’s see here. And went through that, and this is people. And she met Mahmoud Bandami, a political scientist, in 89, while she was in Uganda doing research for Mississippi Masala. And then it says here, he completed his, as the father, Ph.D. from Harvard in 74. beginning an academic career that would take him to universities in Tanzania, South Africa, and the U.S. He now holds the Herbert Lehman Professorship of Government at Columbia University in New York. I wonder if Herbert Lehman is Jewish. Okay, we have more research to do. You can see, as I prepare for the show, I get myself down some rabbit holes.
SPEAKER 03 :
I bet. I don’t know how you make it through a day. There’s so much curiosity that Just we’ve we’ve got the Internet at our fingertips and we can answer so many questions that, you know, there’s a meme out there. But my wife loves that. It was, you know, like, what did you guys do before the Internet? And it was like, well, Aunt Marge would just tell us something. We believed it.
SPEAKER 05 :
We had encyclopedias. But I’m also finding we think that we can get anything on the Internet. I actually find I can put something in. And I’m pretty sure that the Internet or whoever, Al Gore, who founded the Internet. Anyway, I can see that it actually sometimes is… oh censoring things i think as well so we have you have to dig a little deeper put in another word check something else out i can’t believe that we’re it’s time for break and it always goes so quickly when these guys are in studio we have these important discussions because of our sponsors and we talked with her in the first hour and that is karen gorday with radiant painting and lighting and can’t believe it the holidays are right around the corner and you still have some time to reach out to her regarding indoor painting or getting those holiday lights up
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SPEAKER 05 :
Back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. And we’ll mention these two nonprofits that I feature regularly on the show. They are nonpolitical, nonpartisan, really believe in their mission, USMC Memorial. They’re taking care of the memorial and raising money for the remodel. The official Marine Memorial is out here in Golden at 6th and Colfax. To contribute to them, go to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. And also, buy a brick. You’ll receive a beautiful certificate honoring your military service or your loved one’s military service. It’s a great gift for Christmas or for Hanukkah. And then that brick will be on one of their pathways of service. You can get all that information by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. That is usmcmemorialfoundation.org. And then also the Center for American Values located in Pueblo. I was down there on Tuesday. They were celebrating their 15th anniversary, which is amazing. No government money there, which is also amazing. And I was told by someone that was there, I think it was a patron, that the Medal of Honor… Portraits of Valor, that is at the center. The only other place that you could see such an extensive group of portraits is at the Pentagon, and we can’t get in there to see that. So I highly recommend that you check out the Center for American Values. That website is AmericanValuesCenter.org. And again, both organizations are nonpolitical, nonpartisan. Okay, I looked this up. This is Wikipedia, so I’m sure it’s true. Herbert Henry Lehman, He was born in 1878. He died in 1963. He was an American financier and Democrat politician who served as the 45th and first Jewish governor of New York from 1933 to 1942. And he represented New York in the United States Senate from 1949 until 1957. Now, how ironic is this, that he has this chair at Columbia University. Mondami’s father is with that chair. And, yeah, he now holds the Herbert Lehman Professorship of Government at Columbia University. And he is Muslim, which that’s okay. But my understanding is that Mondami has been pretty – Anti-Jewish is my understanding. I haven’t watched that close enough. But the other thing is, is Joe was on this. He found this from the Hindustan Times, and it says, regarding Mondami and his employment. Mondami was represented at the 36th Assembly District in his neighborhoods of Astoria. Ditsmart Steinway and Astoria Heights. He worked as a foreclosure prevention housing counselor who helped low-income homeowners across Queens fight off eviction. And the New York Post reported that Mondami had been employed for only approximately three years in the time between his college graduation in 2014 to becoming an assembly member in 2020.
SPEAKER 03 :
What was he doing for those three years? What was his employment?
SPEAKER 05 :
He was working as a foreclosure prevention housing counselor.
SPEAKER 03 :
foreclosure prevention housing counselor. Okay. I think I know what that is.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. And so we’ll just leave it at that. We’ll let people think about that.
SPEAKER 21 :
You know, Kim, this whole conversation came up talking about what was his occupation? What job has he had before? And I think this is a good way that we can point out that to the left, that serving in government, you know, air quotes, right? Being in government, controlling controlling people’s lives, that type of thing, that’s literally a calling for the left. And our side doesn’t think about that quite so much. If we go into government, it’s often that we are taking time out from our normal occupations, from our careers. And we are making a trade-off and considering, okay, should we do that sacrifice, should we make that sacrifice in order to go and, say, serve for a few years? Yeah. The other side doesn’t do that, and that really makes it difficult for our side then to compete when it comes to those elections.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, and they really have figured out how to work the system. My understanding is also a lot of different politicians have nonprofits. And a perfect example is Joe Biden, apparently, well, or Hillary Clinton. They had these nonprofits that interested parties could put money into it. The interested party gets a tax deduction, and the nonprofit doesn’t pay taxes, but yet the… politician can take a salary from that, they have figured out how to work that system big time. And many times the interested parties are interested in pushing policies that control people’s lives. And so they figured that out. But Marshall and Kurt, I recently was at a hearing and the electeds were Republicans. And I was very surprised to see them to shut down voices and and not have any opposition to the issue at hand. And I’m still doing research on this. But when we talk about the Republican Party is divided, You’re not going to see me uniting with somebody that’s going to shut down voices. I want all voices to be heard. What do you think, Kurt?
SPEAKER 03 :
I mean, it sounds nice what you’re saying. And there’s a place for voices to be heard and for the dialogue. And this radio show is a perfect example of a good place to have. Let’s have a conversation. And I love that. However, like in some meetings, in some contexts, you can’t just have every possible voice heard. It just doesn’t work. So I’m not sure the context in which you’re speaking about, like shutting down voices.
SPEAKER 05 :
So they were having a hearing. People signed up as the public to speak for three minutes. And the electeds called on 17 different people. And two were not there. The other 15 were all in favor of the issue at hand. And I was sitting there, and then I got there a little late, about 2.20, and they just started public comment on it. And… I thought, okay, this is interesting. And I knew many of the people that were coming up to speak in favor of it. And so then at about 2.40, the elected said, well, we are going to shut down public comment at 3. So had not given anybody… Prior notice. And I thought, huh, that’s interesting. And then afterwards, some people came up and they said, we were signed up. We were number 48 and 49. And I’m thinking, I really felt they had a responsibility. Everybody that signed up, I felt should have their three minutes, Curt.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, you said number 48 and 49, but you said there was only 17 of them at three minutes each. 17 at three minutes each is 51 minutes, but if we go to 48 times three, we’re at 144 minutes, which is two and a half hours. So you have to have some sort of decorum, some sort of rules around it. I disagree. For timeliness. So I think, well, look, they play cricket can last a couple days, right? So maybe it’s a two-day hearing, so everybody gets heard. But maybe one person doesn’t get to go six times. Oh, they don’t let them. Right. So there’s a reason they’re limited to three minutes each or like, you know, if we need to make space for more people, maybe it’s two minutes each. There’s a way to do it. You’re right. So I think your instincts are correct that they’re managing what messages flow through the room. That sounds corrupt. Yeah.
SPEAKER 21 :
I think also what I’m hearing from Kurt, and I don’t want to put words in your mouth, Kurt, but I will. You can’t allow the extreme to take place, right? In other words, you can’t allow 30,000 people to come in and comment and thereby shut down any proceedings or have a veto in that regard, right?
SPEAKER 05 :
I guess you’re pushing back on me a little bit on that, on the extreme.
SPEAKER 03 :
You were talking about Hamilton today with his great quote and some of the great things he did. And one of the things he did was he just wrote. He wrote like crazy. And to put your thoughts onto paper is such a – look, humans haven’t always been able to do that. And that’s such an amazing thing because you can move those ideas through time. And so people can come in educated by having read – You know, the different sides of the of the debate and making sure there’s time for that. I’m just I’ve been in situations where, you know, trying to give everybody a voice. And, you know, if, you know, somebody stands up and says, five, three minutes is not enough. I was cut off. And it you there is a there’s there’s a balance between order and chaos here.
SPEAKER 05 :
That has to be – Well, they weren’t even close to that. And when I went out to Elbert County regarding XL, which is doing a big land grab for transmission lines, my hat is off, first of all, to the Elbert County commissioners and the El Paso County commissioners. Now, I’m a little behind on emails, and there’s things happening regarding the wind stuff up in – Wyoming and El Paso and Elbert County on these transmission lines. And I’ve got to get my brain around that. And then you brought the Epwala Bakery to my attention as well.
SPEAKER 03 :
You know, I need an update on them.
SPEAKER 05 :
I got to get that update as well. So I have work to do.
SPEAKER 03 :
I haven’t heard anything.
SPEAKER 05 :
Which is probably good.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, I don’t know. I’m glad you’re more optimistic.
SPEAKER 05 :
But credit to the Elbert County commissioners, these farmers and ranchers had taken time from their business, their livelihoods, to go and sign up to speak. And they let that meeting go on until every one of them spoke. Then they adjourned the meeting and said, we’ll make the decision tomorrow. But I thought that was really great that they did that. Because if people take the time, I think that they should be able to speak.
SPEAKER 03 :
I’ve got a question for you, Kim. Like, what do you think of in the in the voters guide that we get from the government? It has like the proponents say this and the opponent. Okay, you’re making a face for our audience here. And I’ve always thought, boy, rolling my eyes. Doesn’t that seem like a place for like… I would like to see the debate or the decision process on how they decided what words go into those pros and cons.
SPEAKER 05 :
I’ve submitted once or twice to the Blue Book. And it is a… Black box. It’s a… It’s a crazy process. And sometimes, I’m trying to think if it was the Blue Book, but sometimes what they’ll do is, and I learned this, this was on a city issue, is many times the people that oppose are just our regular people, and we don’t understand what the deadlines are to get comments in. And there was one time, I kid you not, that the proponents of the issue wrote both the pro and the con comments. They just use the words a little differently. So that’s why I do my own voter’s guide.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah. I thought that had to be true. There’s not enough space, and it’s controlled. So thank God for other voices having voter guides.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yep, and that’s what was the catalyst that got me started doing that. So we’re going to continue the discussion. Actually, when we come back, I will check our – Text messages, text me 720-605-0647. But we’re going to talk about bike infrastructure. And you’re going to love this. One of our listeners said, ask Kurt if he rode his bike to the station.
SPEAKER 03 :
I did make it this time. No, I’m going to do it. I love that question. It’s going to happen. You know what that question, there’s an assumption behind that question about whether or not it is safe and easy to do. And how much time it takes. All those things that I just said are important. The answer is it’s not easy, right? And it’s not easy because of the institutions, because of what we’ve built, because of what I respectfully call a lack of vision. We built our world to make it – I don’t have a choice – Well, I have a choice, but it sure doesn’t feel like a choice. The world is out against cyclists. It is not easy to do. It’s not fair. It’s not fair. It’s not freedom.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay, well, so get that text line going here, 720-605-0647. It’s going to be a fun discussion and an important one. And in studio is Marshall Dawson, president of Liberty Toastmasters North, Kurt Gerwitz. And we have these discussions because of our sponsors. And if you’ve been injured, reach out to John Bozen and Bozen Law.
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SPEAKER 05 :
Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMonsonMonson.com and sign up for our weekly email newsletter. In studio with me is Marshall Dawson, president of Liberty Toastmasters North. Great to have you.
SPEAKER 21 :
You know, actually, Kim, I’m president in Denver this go-around. Oh, that’s right. Yeah, we have to give our friend Kathy Russell some credit for actually doing such a wonderful job in Longmont.
SPEAKER 05 :
She is pretty amazing. And I think it was just by habit because I’m trying to find a picture that I wanted to show Kurt Gerwitz of bike lanes out of control. So, Kurt Gerwitz. I think the question regarding bike lanes infrastructure is, first of all, who pays for it? Who do you think should pay for bike lanes?
SPEAKER 03 :
You know, it’s a silly question because that’s like saying, who should pay for the raisins in a chicken salad? It’s like the users. It’s… It’s pennies on the dollar and the return on that investment is so extremely high that it’s almost, you’re using that question as a red herring. You’re tricking yourself. Somebody has to pay for it. Of course. And you’re tricking yourself to think that like, oh, because car taxes pay for car lanes, then roads are for cars. But that all was decided by a corrupt band of… cigar-smoking evil Bond villains. Really? Yeah, and it was decided 20 years… It’s like… Here’s what’s happening in the world today right now with our elections.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay. I think that actually who it’s being decided by is the people that decide to buy gas so that they can drive their car where they want to go.
SPEAKER 03 :
You don’t get to decide to buy gas. You have to buy gas. You want to eat? You got to have a job. You want to have a job? You got to have a car. This is what we’ve decided, America. And this world that we’re living in, that world that I just described was decided in a boardroom of corrupt. But I like that. I like that. Corporate. I disagree. I think it was determined on freedom. You like it because it’s all you know. You haven’t seen the beauty. Have you ever been to Amsterdam? No. Okay. Like spend some time in a walkable city and tell me if the quality of life is not better there.
SPEAKER 05 :
You know what? I like my quality of life.
SPEAKER 03 :
And I don’t like the fact that… You don’t think it could be better. That’s a lack of imagination. What I’m telling you is like if you… I’ve seen it on like the 30-a. You had a choice. You had a choice. You could have rode your bike over there. Yeah, and the choice is weighted against me.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, quite frankly, I think part of the fact is, is it would have taken you from, what time would you have had to have gone up?
SPEAKER 03 :
So, like, because we’ve built the infrastructure the way we have, because we’ve decided to expand, you know, horizontally instead of vertically, we’ve made decisions that, like, it’s, we decide, like, how do you get there? Well, by car, of course. And then where do you park? Oh, parking lots. They have to be everywhere. It’s required to put, if you build a building, it’s required to park.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, not anymore. They’re trying to make it so difficult for people.
SPEAKER 03 :
Because we learned the hard way that this has ruined human society in America. Because we’ve taken away the freedom of people to be able to use a bicycle. And we’ve forced them into cars where you get aggressive. You want to talk aggressive?
SPEAKER 05 :
How about one of those people, a bicyclist? I have seen bicyclists that think that they own the road.
SPEAKER 03 :
Can you kill somebody with a bicycle? You can definitely kill people with a car.
SPEAKER 05 :
But I see bicyclists that think that they own the road. They don’t stop at stop signs.
SPEAKER 03 :
They have a right.
SPEAKER 05 :
They don’t stop at stop signs.
SPEAKER 03 :
I don’t stop at stop signs. You should not stop at stop signs. Stop signs for bicycles. The stop signs were designed for cars. They’re not designed for bicycles.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, my gosh. Marshall, would you help me out here?
SPEAKER 03 :
Why is this two against one? I don’t stop at stop signs either when I’m riding. Yeah, it’s inefficient. It’s unsafe. It’s illogical. Right.
SPEAKER 05 :
And then you wonder why bicyclists get hit in an intersection?
SPEAKER 03 :
Do you know the history of the word jaywalking? No, it was we made a decision. So the word J was a was a quite an intense slur on low class people. And we decided that we were making the decision that roads are not we don’t need pedestrians. They’re not for horses or for bicycles, that they’re going to be for cars only because, God forbid, a motorist, a motorist be inconvenienced. And so we made it a crime. And when you make it a crime, they had to do the messaging right. And so they went with jaywalking. I’m convinced the whole point of curbs is to teach pedestrians to stay out of streets. But I’m telling you, the best streets in the world are ones where pedestrians are welcome and feel safe.
SPEAKER 05 :
Why don’t you live there? I’m trying.
SPEAKER 03 :
I’m trying.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay. Okay. Let’s see. It says bike lanes are squeezing cars out and costing people more time to get to work. I agree with Jenny on that. Let’s see here.
SPEAKER 03 :
Hold on. Let me dispute that. If people take bikes, then there’s less cars on the road and you get to work faster. There’s like what a bicycle does to take traffic out of the like cars are the reason things are slow.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay. I’m out early in the morning. I don’t want to be riding a bike when it’s a blizzard. I need to get to work. I like the safety of my car. I like the convenience of my car. I can get here.
SPEAKER 03 :
Your car is a murdering machine of Americans. We kill 65,000 Americans every year on our roads, and it doesn’t even make the news. Why not?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, we’ve killed 65 million babies since abortion has been… Great.
SPEAKER 03 :
That’s a whataboutism. So abortion and cars are completely different issues. But yeah, there’s lots of ways to kill Americans. We could do it with cigarettes. We could do it with the suicide rate of men. We could do it with cars. All these things are… Anything that kills Americans, I’m not going to say I’m a proponent of it.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 03 :
65… Okay. Okay.
SPEAKER 05 :
We’ll continue this discussion probably next month because we’re getting close to low on time. We’ve got Gammy on the line. Gammy, what’s on your radar?
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, my word. Mr. Kirk, I love your youthful enthusiasm, but let me tell you how to cut a fat hog, little man. Let me tell you something. I’m 75. If you expect me to take a bike and maybe, you know, a bag or a child or something and have to ride them on a bike to get to my city that I’m paying for and everybody else is paying for, I think we got a failure to communicate like Cool Hand Luke here. I mean, I’m serious. There’s a heart attack. You listen with that energy. Your butt needs to be at the school boards, keeping them from shopping off kids, body parts in Colorado right now. Your energy needs to be fighting the legislature for why. And I want to. been this. Tina Peters is a cancer survivor who is sick in jail because she tried to protect election records and she’s been set up because the real regime here that wants smart cities and wants all this world economic form control the people. So she’s in jail. Prisoners who have raped people are out. And and we’re having her not get medical attention right now. You want to talk about how to cut a fat hog. You young bucks, you got a lot to learn, because let me tell you something. I don’t see you at the school board when I get kicked out for saying don’t chop up those kids.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay, okay, so hold on here. There’s a lot coming in here. Gammy, first of all, thank you. This came in, says pedestrians are safe when they watch for oncoming traffic. They were run down by horses and carriages, too. Be an attentive pedestrian. And so, Kurt, I’ll give you a minute. Marshall, I’ll give you a minute as well. So this is good. This is good to have this conversation.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, I mean, you challenged me. Actually, I was really inspired by Marshall in the first hour when he said, like, what we should do is find what we’re passionate about and go get involved. And you’ve pulled it out of me, Kim. I’ve been on the show for over a year and you’ve found my soft spot. Which is this issue. And it’s something that you and I disagree with. So hopefully it’s entertaining to our audience. But yeah, no, I’m very passionate about this subject. I think the car brain is an interesting phenomenon. And…
SPEAKER 05 :
It’s a freedom brain. It’s a freedom of mobility.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, it’s the opposite of that.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay, we’re going to talk about this next month. But Milton Friedman says, who pays, who benefits, who decides, and what’s fair? Those are the things that we continue to talk about.
SPEAKER 21 :
I like that framing.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay. Marshall, great to have you.
SPEAKER 21 :
Great to be here. How much time do we have to wrap up?
SPEAKER 05 :
About a minute.
SPEAKER 21 :
Okay. I think this is a great example where multiple things can be true at the same time. Kurt, I have no doubt that, was it Amsterdam that you mentioned, can be wonderful. I love to walk. I love to ride my bike. I love to drive my car. I love to drive my truck. And, you know, so I think that having an environment like that could be wonderful. Kim, I’m definitely with you, though. You know, that personal freedom, that personal mobility and everything that comes with it, and especially the choices to be able to do that, that is what’s paramount here. I bristle at the idea of, you know, a bureaucrat or a politician coming in and saying, no, we are definitely going to change the way that you live for your own good.
SPEAKER 05 :
And that’s what’s happening with these road diets and taking away our freedom, our freedom of mobility. And so this is so important, though, that we have these conversations. And I appreciate all of you that are texting. This is good stuff. So we will continue the discussion. We’ve got to have these conversations. Kurt, thank you.
SPEAKER 03 :
Let’s pull up those texts next month.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay, we’ll do that. Marshall, thank you.
SPEAKER 21 :
Thank you so much. Great to be here.
SPEAKER 05 :
And Alexander Hamilton said this, though. He said, there is a certain enthusiasm in liberty that makes human nature rise above itself in acts of bravery and heroism. So, my friends, today, be grateful. Read great books. Think good thoughts. Listen to beautiful music. Communicate and listen well. Live honestly and authentically. Strive for high ideals. And like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you, and God bless America.
SPEAKER 26 :
This is my right
SPEAKER 19 :
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