Join Barbara Carmack and guest Kimberly for an inspiring and reflective episode of Call to Freedom. Through scripture and personal stories, they explore themes of trust, faithfulness, and the steadfast love of God. Drawing lessons from the life of Daniel, they discuss his unwavering faith and purity of heart, even in the face of the lion’s den, and relate it to our own lives and challenges.
The conversation delves into Psalm 91 and the imagery of God’s protection, offering deeper insights into the meaning of “pinions” and how it reflects God’s care and strength. Kimberly shares personal reflections on surrendering
00:00:09 Jimmy Lakey
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00:01:03 Barbara
Studio, welcome to Call the Freedom last Friday. Let’s see. Last Thursday. Yes, it was snowing. I mean, it was coming down. My property got 10 inches and it was 20°.
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This Thursday it’s 65°. I mean if you don’t want to change in weather like that. Ohh you go live in California or somewhere. I know when I went to school in California.
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Warn you, it was just so the same, same old, same old every day. And I really did miss the seasons, not the 20° of course, but miss the seasons. It’s so good to have you join us today. I pray that you may enjoy good health and that all may go well with you, even as your soul is getting along.
00:01:48 Barbara
Well, oh, I like that in 3rd John too. That is a wonderful, wonderful verse to remember. God is wanting good health for you and everything else in your life to go along really well. You are blessed to dispense for in him. You live and move and have your being. And I want to remind you of the beautiful versus Scripture.
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Lamentations 322 and 23, the steadfast love of the Lord never ceases.
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His mercies never come to an end. They are new. Every morning. Great is your faithfulness, Lord. And then in verse 24 it says the Lord is my portion. Therefore, I have hope in him. And if you’re reading through the book of Daniel with me, you know that Daniel had to truly depend on God. God was his hope.
00:02:36 Barbara
Especially when Darius put a stone over the mouth of the Lions den so that there there was no possibility of of Daniel escaping that Den, and God brought about a great great miracle. Praise the Lord. Oh, welcome to the broadcast, Kimberly.
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Thank you. Yeah, we’ll just continue talking about Daniel and how no one could find any fault in him. That is amazing to me that he was so trustworthy and so pure hearted and they decided they declared that it was impossible to find fault in him. So they had to set him up.
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You know that was a setup to get him in that line.
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Then and I I know this is the season for us to have the same pure hearted desires that Daniel had and that is to seek God. I love your memory, verse, the steadfast love of the Lord never ceases. You know we can memorize these and not really dig into them.
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Another scripture that I I’ve had memorized is Psalm 91 and I have memorized the whole the whole chapter of Psalm 91.
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Then this morning I was just reading it again, not not quoting it out loud, but reading again, and I think the version that I memorized it in when you get to the verse about him covering us with his wings, I memorized wings, but the old word there is pinions.
00:04:12 Kimberly
He covers us with his pinions.
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And most of my life.
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I’ve thought of pinions as a noun referring to a bird’s wings.
00:04:21 Barbara
OK.
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So there’s also verb meanings for that, and there’s another noun meaning. So if you really dig into the word of God and you realize that God is not.
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Not limited by a noun and a verb, and if he wants you to find a different definition, that’s that’s outside of what you have stayed with for a long time, follow that. It’s really fun because the steadfast love of the Lord will meet.
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You right in that moment and.
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So tell us what pinions means as a verb.
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OK, well, another opinion. That’s a noun. Let me talk about the.
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Noun before I go to the verb.
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Is a small.
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Gear that engages with a larger gear. I just love the idea of that, because if he’s covering us with his pinions his gear, we’ll get our gear moving and going in the direction that he wants it to go. And that’s a way of covering us.
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So that we’re going in his direction. You having with him?
00:05:31 Barbara
Yes, yes. Oh, that’s beautiful. Wow.
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The there’s also the verb meaning. This is really interest.
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When you pinion someone, you tie or hold their arms and legs, you bind them. So an example of a like a sentence would be he pinioned the limbs of his opponent. Maybe in wrestling. OK, so when you pinion someone, you’re holding their arms and legs.
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And.
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When you pinion.
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The wing of a bird, that’s another verb, meaning you can do this as a verb too. You pinion the wing of a bird, you’re cutting it off to prevent it from flying.
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OK, so I’m going to go to Psalm 91 here.
00:06:23 Barbara
It is so interesting city because all of us get this vision in our mind of a bird. You know, he who dwells in the. Yes, the wings. Yes. And it’s got so many other different wings, Kimberly. He will cover you with his pinions and under his wings.
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Right.
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And.
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Wings.
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Right.
00:06:42 Barbara
We may seek refuge. Well, we we visualize a bird and the wings. Right, people? Yeah. Most people an eagle. You know, that kind of thing. But this can be just so many different things.
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Right.
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His mission? Yeah. Yes. And his love for us. So here, here’s an example of just sitting with him just being still.
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And being curious, in the stillness you can be curious and ask questions and start engaging in conversation, and this is what was going on. I’m I’m curious when it says he will cover you with his opinions.
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What else can pinions mean it could mean?
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To tie or hold the arms or legs. Can you imagine God himself allowing his strength to be bound?
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Allowing himself to be bound while he lets us have our freedom.
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Yeah.
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Or the opposite. You know he has to tie some of us up because we’re so stubborn. Well, that’s when we start asking when we realize that his ways really are better than ours. That’s when we start asking that he will just tie us behind us so that we will not be found.
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Yes.
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Fighting him, that is my hearts prayer. That’s my hearts desire that I will not be found fighting him anymore.
00:08:10 Barbara
Right.
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But he does not fight us, you know, in the beginning when we are cultivating a relationship with him and we’ve been born again. He allows us to continue in our same free will and not free will sometimes costs him dearly. You know, we don’t think about that. We don’t think about what.
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Our free will costs him, but in our free will we are making decisions and going down a path that very often does bind.
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And him he is no longer just free to display his strength and his ideas, because our ideas have overruled his.
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Yeah, I’ve got. I’ve just gotta have my way. I’ve just got to have it this way. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. So when when we allow someone else to assert their opinion in our life and we go along with them?
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And we just quiet our own opinion to let them have theirs. That’s one of the ways that we can display reconciliation. We are now at peace.
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Hopefully we’re not doing it with a whole bunch of angry thoughts in our head, you know, hopefully we’re letting someone have an opinion just so that we can listen and and realize, hey, there’s another way to look at this. There’s another way to walk this out to do life.
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And here’s another opinion another way. Well, our lives are here. We we are made for the most high God. We are made in his image and he is the one who first allowed himself to be.
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Bound allowed his strength to be bound and allowed his opinions.
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Listen to that, by the way, I was talking about how he covers us with his pinions. He let his opinions be bound. Yeah, so that we could have our own opinions and we could try our own way in this life.
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Isn’t that interesting?
00:10:25 Barbara
Yes. Yeah.
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So he did it first. He allowed himself whole new concept there.
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Yeah, it’s a play on words. I realize that. But it’s one of the ways that when you’re sitting and being still and quieting yourself before the Lord and just being curious about one word.
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In the scriptures he can start showing you things about himself that you never would have considered. You know, like considering that he gave up his his strength and his freedom to let us have ours.
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In this relationship and his greatest hope is that we will learn to do the same thing, give up our strength and our ideas for him to have his. I want that well. I want his strength to be perfected in my weakness.
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It gives a whole new meaning to that verse too, that his strength is perfected in my weakness. Wow. If I choose to make myself weak and say you.
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What just bind my ideas, bind my arms and legs? I don’t want to go my direction anymore. I want to go your direction, so please have your way. And then his strength is perfected. I want to see that. I think that is the fulfillment of what Jesus told us. That greater things.
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Will we do when we are filled with the Holy Spirit and surrendered and submitted to him, so that our ideas, our opinions, are now bound so his can have free reign?
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Ohh, I want to see what that looks.
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Like, don’t you?
00:12:12 Barbara
Absolutely. Absolutely. It’s like looking at this next year that we have coming up in a whole new administration. Wow, I’m. I’m just so excited to look at what is going to be happening here and in the in the physical but also.
00:12:29 Barbara
I think of that Scripture in Philippians 213 that says he as is at work and.
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Us. You know who believe in Jesus Christ? He is at work in us both to will and to work for his good pleasure. The very next verse says so do all things without grumbling and without disputing and disputing, is arguing with our God.
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US.
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But God but God, but God, you.
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Know we’ve got all these.
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That’s and I I’ve. I’ve eliminated that word from my vocabulary. It just doesn’t do me any good. It just doesn’t. It doesn’t.
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Right. Yeah, yeah. I I want him to. Pinion, pinion.
00:13:12 Barbara
I want him to pin my butts against.
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Fines.
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The wall? That’s not how. No. But I I do. I heard it. I heard it as soon.
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As it came out of my mouth. But.
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I really do want him to bind my ideas so that his ideas.
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And supersede and overrule all of mine. I I heard a song. A newer song by Cory Asbury.
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He was testifying that he had chronic pain when he was first going to Bible school and this was a couple decades ago and he was learning to write worship music and he just spent his time in prayer. Many of us who have taken time to go to Bible school, you do, you meet up with your your.
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Peers and the other students in that Bible school, and you pray and you agree to fast together, that you you learn scriptures, you memorize scripture and he would.
00:14:07 Barbara
He did all.
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Of this he quoted scriptures over his body.
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And it’s two decades later, and he still has that same pain today. Wow, that chronic pain. And I think that we can all relate to this song that he wrote where we think that we can have this relationship with the Lord somehow.
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Christianity.
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He has taught us or given us a message that tends to proclaim that we we can find this place with God, where Jesus takes it all. He took it all so that we don’t have to bear it, you know, like he took our paints and by his stripes we are healed. And and those scriptures are true.
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But somehow we have seen this picture of this great Christian in me that now no longer has to have any pain, and so we might not need the grace anymore to cover us while we’re in pain. I really do want to hear this song. It’s a wonderful song.
00:15:08 Barbara
Yeah.
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It’s called only Jesus for my pain.
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Must have tried most everything. It ended all the same for good and bad. I realize only Jesus for my pain.
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Designer jeans and it took the dust to Jesus for my painting.
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Only Jesus knows the questions. The things I’m scared to say. Only Jesus holds the answers to the troubles I can’t face in every single Rd. I take these right back to this place.
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Only Jesus for nothing.
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Every time I try to this kind is called my name.
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You think that only Jesus for my pain?
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Only Jesus knows the questions. The things I’m scared to say. Only Jesus holds the answers to the troubles. I can’t feign in every single take me right back to this place.
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Only Jesus for your pain.
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Thought I’d live to see the day.
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I could not go great.
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Since I’m on my knees again. See, this is where we begin. Only Jesus for my pain. And I wouldn’t change a thing.
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I love his conclusion that he wouldn’t change a thing.
00:18:03 Barbara
Change a thing. Oh, it reminds me of that scripture in first. Peter the 1st chapter where he’s talking about going through any something by fire being tested by fire. And even though you know.
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Tested by fire and it’s a it may be a prolonged thing like what he went through, the singer Cory and his name, Cory.
00:18:27 Barbara
Yes, that.
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It brings, as Peter was saying, it results in praise and glory and honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ. So the result of this pain is praise and honor and glory to him. Wow, Kimberly.
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Yes.
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Well, and it’s also being filled with grace. It is praise and honor and glory to God. And when we’re filled with his grace and filled with himself and his opinions and his ways, and we’re walking that out in this.
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Life.
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People can see it. People can see that light, they can see the power, they can see the beauty they can. They can see that that is what Jesus did. He came here to show.
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Who the father really is. That’s right. And the works that he did were the works the father gave him to do so he said greater things. Would we do greater things than himself? We would.
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Do as as we are filled with the Holy Spirit, the one that he is sending to come after him and.
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That’s, that’s where I want our focus. I would just want to encourage you that if you’re still in pain, if you’re still fighting fear, if you still have stress and anxiety in your life after, after everything you’ve tried.
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You’re still on your knees, it seems that’s where God really wants to meet.
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You again, yes.
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And to say only Jesus for my pain is to say he is the only answer to be filled with him and his ways his.
00:20:18 Speaker 3
Thoughts. That’s a beautiful place. Yeah, I’m reminded of a few weeks ago when I was testifying on the air here with you about being in so much pain with my shoulder and my neck and my pastor giving the challenge to go down on your face in a prostate position to meet with the Lord.
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And I did that and I realized, oh, I’m in more pain.
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But the smile on my face was knowing. OK, I’m not here because I’m trying to find comfort. I am here because I am trying to find my God.
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And I believe that his grace is enough. If his grace is more than enough for me. And so I’m not going to just jump up and I’m not going to believe the lies that are coming to me right now that I am doing more damage to my body by being prostate face down. You know, I’m not going to believe that.
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I’m going to believe that his grace is sufficient. I’m going to believe that his grace is enough and that he is ready to fill me. And so deciding that my God is not.
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My God is so much greater than comfort. That is how we can know that he is. He is so full satisfying he brings contentment and fulfillment to us in ways that we never would imagine. We got our imagination is.
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Imagining that we’ll finally be comfortable, or we’ll finally be rich, we’ll finally have the things in life that we’ve always wanted to have, but our imagination is way too limited.
00:21:53 Barbara
Yes. Yeah.
00:22:01 Speaker 4
Mm-hmm.
00:22:01 Barbara
And will we go to God? Will we be wanting and desiring to be in his presence when everything is comfortable, everything is paid for, everything is good? Will we be as close to him as when the pain is there, as when the bills are piled up, as when the relationships aren’t working out, you know?
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I you know what? I’ll tell the truth. I’ll admit that. No. When when life is pretty smooth, I find that I’m not going to him as much.
00:22:31 Barbara
That’s right. That’s right. And this.
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I think that’s the human condition, you know, and I I my prayer has been lately Lord in the smooth.
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Minds would you would you make sure that I stay in touch with you, bind my hands and feet in this most time so that I am communicating and connecting and conversing, communing with you? I know he is drawing.
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All of his people into a season like.
00:23:03 Barbara
That, that’s right. I want to come. Go back to Daniel just for a few minutes. And and Darius after Daniel came out of the Lions den unscathed, and then the Lions ate all the people that were thrown.
00:23:16 Barbara
In there, Darius the King wrote to all the people and he said may your peace abound. I make a decree that in all the dominion of my Kingdom, men are to fear and tremble before the God of Daniel, for he is the living God, enduring God. His Kingdom is one which will not be destroyed. Here’s Darius, a wicked King, saying this.
00:23:36 Barbara
He delivers and rescues and performs signs and wonders in heaven and on Earth, who has also delivered Daniel from the power of the Lions. And so in the 28th verse of Chapter 6 of Daniel says so this Daniel enjoyed success.
00:23:53 Barbara
Great success in the reign of Darius, and even through the reign of Cyrus.
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So when we.
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Encounter these pressure things, these things that cause us to get on our knees like you did our prostrate Kimberly. God brings success into our life that we can’t even imagine.
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Yeah, and it’s his.
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Success.
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It’s his success. That’s right. It’s. Yes, yes. But he would be glorified over and over in the book of Daniel. It says the most high God is sovereign over the realm of man.
00:24:18 Barbara
All over.
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So when we remember that his ways are so much higher than ours over our realm, then we invite his ways. We keep inviting him in. I love that that’s good.
00:24:34 Barbara
Oh yes, that’s so good. Praise the Lord.
00:24:37 Speaker 3
I I want to read from John Chapter 15.
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And I think I was reading a little bit of that yesterday, but I’m I’m not sure that I got to verses 5 through 5 through 8.
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But that’s just on my heart again today. So John 15, I am the sprouting vine and you are my branches. As you live in union with me as your source. Fruitfulness will stream from within you, but when you live separated from me, you are power.
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Unless if a person is separated from me, he is discarded. Such branches are gathered up and thrown into the fire to be burned. But if you live in life union with me, and if my words live powerfully within you, then you can ask whatever you desire.
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Ask anything in my name and it will be done.
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When your lives bear abundant fruit.
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You demonstrate that you are my mature disciples who glorify my father. I just really want to be concentrating on glorifying him and and asking for things in his name. But what that really means is asking for his sake. Will you let your plans come to pass?
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For your sake, because your plans are so much better than mine, will you make your dream come true? Jesus, for your sake, because your dream is so much.
00:26:04 Barbara
That’s right. Not right.
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Better than my dream and Lord, we just ask that you would make us into your mature disciples. Those who glorify you with every second, every breath and every heartbeat we have made-up our minds that we want to be found in you. Help us know what it truly means to.
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Ask anything in your name for your sake.
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And Lord, we don’t want to use your name for our agendas. We want you to use us for your agendas and for your sake. So please help us see the things, the things of this realm, the way you do and accomplish our hearts desire that you’ve planted within us in.
00:26:56 Barbara
Jesus name and for his sake we pray. Amen. Amen. Thank you, Kimberly. It’s been wonderful. A wonderful week, and may all of you listening. Know the fullness of serving Jesus Christ. God bless you and keep you and take joy.
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