Welcome to the Kim Monson Show podcast. Kim Monson is your host. Americans are very generous people and Coloradans are among the most generous. Author and Co-Founder of Liberty Toastmasters Brad Beck discusses his most recent article Misplaced Generosity. Award winning journalist with The Epoch Times Nathan Worcester addresses Congress’ tackling expiring Obamacare subsidies. And we’ll talk with Jon Boesen with Boesen Law. ————————————————————————————– The Kim Monson Show airs on KLZ 560 AM every Monday thru Friday, 6-8 AM MST. You can listen to the live stream by going to www.klzradio.com
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Indeed, let’s have a conversation. Welcome to the Kim Monson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You each are treasured, you’re valued, you have purpose. Today, strive for excellence, take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. Thank you to the team. That’s Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, Amanda, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Tuesday, Producer Joe. happy tuesday kim and we are marching towards christmas we’re making great progress on all of our pre-records for next week i think we’re going to do a couple of evergreens really cool evergreens but it’s going to be a great week but we work like maniacs joe so that we can take a little time off yes ma’am we do do you sound like you have a little bit of a cold
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Yeah, I’m a little stopped up this morning. I think it’s allergies mostly. Okay.
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Allergies in December, huh? Hey, check out my website. That’s Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Make sure that you are signed up for our weekly email newsletter. That way you’ll get first look at our upcoming guests as well as our most recent essays. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com. Right now, fastest response, though, is 720-605-0647, which is our… Our text line. And I so appreciate all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice on an independent station searching for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And it’s not compassionate and it’s not altruistic to take other people’s stuff, whether or not it’s their rights, their property, freedom. livelihoods opportunities childhoods or lives via force force can be a weapon but we’re seeing it in policy and unpredictable and excessive taxation and fear coercion this government-induced inflation and then the agenda of the world economic forum and the globalist lease that is playing out through the united nations This Colorado state legislature that is being controlled by radical activists and this Colorado governor, again, radical activist, but we’re seeing it all the way into municipal governments as well. And so that’s why we engage in this battle of ideas that is occurring here. We focus on the issues, and we’ll mention the people that are pushing the issues, but we work really diligently to stay out of all the issues. 8th grade girl fighting. The show comes to you 6 to 8 a.m. Monday through Friday live. First hour is rebroadcast 1 to 2 in the afternoon. Second hour 10 to 11 at night. And after that the podcast will be on my website as well as the streaming services such as Spotify and iTunes. I’m very pleased to have in studio with me my friend and that is Brad Beck. He is an author and And he is co-founder of Liberty Toastmasters. It’s great to have you here.
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It’s always good to see you, Kim, and have your presence and your smile and your enthusiasm. Thank you for having me in studio.
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Well, and this piece that you have written, this is really this is a very important piece. I think particularly it’s misplaced generosity. And in light of what has been happening, all the news that’s coming out regarding the Somali nonprofits, I’ll have that in air quotes, which has built the American taxpayer out of, they think, a billion, at least a billion dollars. This is crazy.
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Well, we believe in the idea of all men are created equal, but I don’t believe that all cultures are created equal. And there are people who have come to this country and they’re not assimilating and they’re not looking at the opportunities. They’re looking to transfer their lifestyles from where they came from here. And I think that’s part of the problem.
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And if they like their lifestyle there, they should stay there.
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Absolutely. And we have the greatest country in the world. And if you want to come to America and be an American, guess what? You can be from any nation in the world and be an American. You can’t say that about any other country. You can’t go to you name the country. France. Yeah. Yeah.
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You can’t become a Frenchman or French woman.
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No. And we are the great melting pot, not the salad bowl. And you have to learn about our culture. And there are so many friends we have that have done that. In fact, they they’re Americans by choice, they say. And they are wonderful people. And we welcome them. After all, our ancestors came from somewhere else. But there is a big divide, and it’s growing. And it’s unfortunate because there’s so much opportunity here. And there are good people in all cultures.
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When our ancestors came here, there was no government handouts.
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Absolutely not.
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And, for example, the story of my paternal great-grandmother. She immigrated from Germany at the age of 15. And she worked for a family for a number of years in Omaha to work off her boat fare. You could call that indentured servant to do so. And so there was no handout, and they didn’t expect a handout. And so this—and you have really been the person that brought the word altruistic to to the forefront. And explain that. It’s an important word to understand.
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Well, there’s a French philosopher, Auguste Comte, and he was the one who came up with the idea and actually expanded on it, but that you should, in essence, live your life for somebody else first rather than for yourself. In fact, he was not an egoist. And egoism has gotten a bad name over the years. We should take care of ourselves, our health, our mental capacities. I mean, unfortunately, there was a tragic death by a well-known director, actor in Los Angeles by his son. And I don’t agree with his political stance, but nobody should die that way. And we’re going to find out that it was a mental illness issue. We have that problem in this country. We need to address it, whatever the cause is. By the same token, we have the opportunities here that no other nation affords people, and we keep forgetting it. When I got up this morning, there was hot water and there was lights and there was food.
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Maybe not on Wednesday.
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According to our power company. But, you know, we take it all for granted and we don’t realize a generation or two ago just the trial of doing something to make your life better. It was incredible to go get water in the morning, you know, to have heat.
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Firewood. To heat a home by fire, I’ve done that a few times. It is work. Especially if you don’t know how to do it.
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Especially if you don’t know how. You learn quickly.
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But I remember setting an alarm so that I could go and make sure that I had wood on the fire in the middle of the night because I didn’t want to get up and have to restart the whole thing. It’s a lot of work to do that. And we do take all of this for granted. We’re going to talk with Kyleen Rush in the next segment. She’s a mom who has apparently gotten a notice from Excel that because of high winds, they may shut down power tomorrow. Okay, let’s really think about that. Excel’s job, their job is supposed to be to provide reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant power for its customers. But if you enter in all of the World Economic Forum and all these tax incentives for industrial wind, solar, and transmission lines, and there’s a big land grab that’s happening with that, And then you bring in Governor Jared Polis, who’s trying to portray himself as a libertarian. He is anything but. And instead, they’ve got these unattainable, unsustainable goals out here. Thank you so much for joining us.
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This is an amazing thing. I laughed earlier because one of the things that they’re doing is CYA. And when you’re worried about getting sued again, a la the Marshall Fire, and you make billions of dollars—and I don’t begrudge anybody making a good profit— But billions of dollars over the last four years, and they can’t figure out how to make the infrastructure so where the wind blows, things don’t go bad, don’t go south. I mean, it makes no sense. So, you know, I hate regulation, but the regulators need to be regulated a little bit.
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Well, they do. And last month in November, Excel was in front of the PUC asking for a $356 million rate increase. So they talk about wind and solar being affordable. It’s not. And it’s not reliable. And they’ve not put in place a situation. We know that the wind blows sometimes. So come on. I went out last Tuesday night to Elbert County. Because the Elbert County commissioners and the El Paso County commissioners denied a transmission line permit for Xcel to go across their counties. They don’t get any power from this. And Xcel is using eminent domain to take land for people that maybe have five acres. There is an alternate route. And so I went out to make comments on it because this is in my backyard. We’ve been watching this. And there were three people that were sitting there as the commission. And I thought, I don’t know, I thought in my mind that there was multi-tuniness. That’s our word of the day. And it’s M-U-L-T-I-N. U-D-I-N-O-U-S, multitudinous, which means very numerous, existing in great numbers, consisting of many parts, populace, crowded. So I thought that the board, the PUC board, would have a number of members. So it would be multitudinous. And there’s three. There’s three people that have been all appointed by Jared Polis that are making all these decisions. And the decisions you can take right back up to Jared Polis.
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There are people who are in elected positions. positions that keep getting elected, and you have to wonder when will our fellow citizens wake up and stop electing these people who are taking from us our intellectual property, our physical property, and when are people going to wake up? It’s a wealth transfer. It’s a total wealth transfer. And it’s also theft. And until we push back in the sense of enough, you know, they’ve destroyed Tabor or continue to go after it. And there’s very little left. It’s like a bad tooth. But there’s been Republicans that have helped them. Well, this is not a partisan issue. No, it’s not. It is both on the right and the left. And I think we as citizens just have to say enough, enough, stop and quit voting for, you know, we just had referendums. That was part of what I wrote in my essay. And in those referendums, people are voting away their money. Well, you can freely give your money to anything if you want. But why are you using the force of government against your fellow citizens? You don’t trust them. And there’s a big trust problem here.
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Well, and the other thing is, is there are those that benefit from that. And instead of producing, if you can use government to take your neighbor’s money and then give that money to you, that’s theft.
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Wait, let me adjust my tinfoil hat here.
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Okay. Well, let’s get into our quote of the day. I went to John Ruskin. He was born in 1819. He died in 1900. He was an English polymath, a writer, lecturer, art historian, art critic, droughtsman, and philanthropist of the Victorian era. Do you ever wonder how they can get all that done?
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It blows me away. But then I have a friend named Kim Monson.
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Okay.
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I’ve never thought of myself as a polymath. But he wrote on subjects as varied as art, architecture, political economy, education, museology, geology, botany, orthonology, literature, history, and myth. And he said this, the highest reward for a person’s toil is not what they get for it, but what they become by it.
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That’s a great quote.
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Isn’t that?
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It reminds me of somebody who I followed for a year, John. Now I just lost his name. Tremendous Jones. I want to say Johnny, but it’s not. You’ll remember him. Yes. Charlie Tremendous Jones. He said the only thing different between now and five years from now are the people you meet in the books you read. Very similar. I love that. Yeah. So, I mean, it’s amazing that people who are curious, they create people who are looking at the world. And even with all the craziness going on and all the negativity, you know, it’s a curious world and there’s a lot of beauty in it. And we have to seek the beauty and not the evil.
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Totally agree. And that’s why we engage in this battle of ideas. And we’re going to be talking about your article that we’re going to publish here. Before we get to break, as you all know, I started a petition from the humanitarian component to call on Governor Jared Polis to release Tina Peters. Several reasons. First of all, it’s Christmas time, and I’m calling on him to exhibit some kindness and compassion, mercy. She didn’t even have a traffic ticket before this whole ordeal began. And she was a gold star mom. And what that means is her son was killed in service to our country. And so she is languishing in the prison down in La Vista. And it’s Christmas time. She’s appealing her case. And the judge denied bail. And so a couple of things. Her mother’s 97. She’d really like to visit her mother. And Tina is a cancer survivor and concerned that there might be a reoccurrence. She needs some medical care as well. So the compassionate thing to do would be to release her. So we have a petition that is robust, but go to my website, Kim Monson, that’s M-O-N-S-O-N.com. There’s a red banner at the top. Click on that. Sign the petition. This is not going to a petition gathering service. This is coming directly to me. Then on the 22nd, the due date is 9 o’clock on Monday the 22nd. That afternoon, I’m going to take the signatures first name last initial maybe the state because we’re having people sign from all over the country and i’m going to present that to jared polis and then i began my calling campaign with him yesterday left a message with the great young guy arlo at his office that this is what we’re doing and we’re calling on him to release her and i need to get a press release out yesterday just got away from me but this is the compassionate thing to do so Gold Star mom, cancer survivor, mom’s 97, and Jared Polis every year has pardoned or commuted sentences. Last year, he pardoned 22 people. Among those were two murderers, one rapist, and one bank robber. Seems like he could let a Gold Star mom out, so that’s what we’re calling on him to do.
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Well, whether you agree with what purported to happen with Tina— And the crime does not deserve what she’s gone through. And for nine years, to make an example of her, I think there was other ulterior motives at play here.
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And I watched all of this and aware of so many things. But just from a humanitarian standpoint, we need to get her released. So we’re working on it. So with that, hey, we’re going to go to break. I wanted to say thank you to the Harris family for their goal sponsorship of the show. And also, I really appreciate Roger Mangan and the Roger Mangan State Farm Insurance team. And give them a call. You might be able to save some money. I’m hearing from many of our listeners that they are saving money by calling the Roger Mangan State Farm Insurance team. So that number is 303-795-8855. Like a good neighbor, the Roger Mangan team is there.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. I wanted to say thank you to the Harris family for their gold sponsorship of the show. As you know, we are an independent voice on an independent station searching for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through that lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. Brad Beck is in studio with me. My dear friend, he’s an author here at The Kim Monson Show, co-founder of Liberty Toastmasters. Great to have you here.
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It’s always a pleasure. And, you know, the multitudinous of the radio dial that has so many other just talk shows. This has some substance. So it’s always a pleasure to be here.
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Thank you. And pleased to have on the line with me, Kyleen Rush. She is an entrepreneur. She’s a mom. And I wanted to talk with her about she got a notice that Xcel Energy might turn her power off tomorrow. Now, it’s December. She’s got two little ones. Let’s talk with her about that. Kylene Rush, welcome to the show. Hey, how’s it going? Good. It’s good to have you. Kylene, you’ve got two little kids, and Excel said they might turn power off. What do you think about all this?
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Well, of course, it kind of threw me into a panic. All of my appliances are electric because my house was built in 2017. And, you know, of course, there’s been movement in Colorado to move away from natural gas for quite a while now. And so I was thinking, you know, how am I going to feed my kids and heat the house when power could be out from anywhere from 8 to 24 hours? And they said maybe even a couple of days. So I came up with the solution to get a camping stove that doubles as a space heater that’s propane-powered just so that I’d have a way to keep the house warm and feed the kids because I don’t really have any other options. I don’t have a wood stove because those are pretty unpopular in newer homes. either. So it came down to pretty limited solutions.
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And you don’t have a gas fireplace because your home’s a newer home and they’ve outlawed that. So here we’ve got a government, Kyleen, PBIs, as I affectionately call them, politicians, bureaucrats, and interested parties that have been moving towards electrification for everything. You are experiencing this. You have everything electric. And they said, we might turn it off. And it’s December, and you’ve got little kids, and so your alternative will be propane, which is a product of the naturally occurring hydrocarbons from oil and natural gas, or one of those are coal, right, Kylene? Yep, that’s correct. So what about your sphere of influence? Are your friends connecting the dots between public policy and how this affects their lives?
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You know, it’s hard to say. There are some who do connect the dots, and there are some who don’t. For instance, I left a reply to a comment on a Facebook page yesterday about this, where a woman was saying, oh, yeah, I’ll be okay for a few hours without power. And, you know, it’s okay because it prevents wildfires. And I said, well, you know, you people who may have medical issues that need constant oxygen. And Excel actually privately messaged me back regarding the comment, basically saying, oh, you’ll just have to make other arrangements. You know, people with children and people with chronic medical conditions that need constant medical equipment do not usually have the money for this in our already stretched-in economy. And it was just mind-blowing that Excel is so out of touch.
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Gosh, now, and I know that I have some friends that have medical condition, and so they’ve prepared. They have a generator, but they’ve spent thousands of dollars to prepare for something like this to happen. And there’s a lot of people that can’t afford that, Kyleen, especially as the cost of our electricity is going up and up and up.
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Yep, absolutely. All of my neighbors in my area have been complaining about the rates that Xcel has been you know boosting over and over and over again and you know normally the bill is about 110 in the winter but i mean i remember just a few years ago you know it was usually about you know 60 or 70 dollars and it’s just it’s getting really out of hand and it’s seeming like such a big cash grab and we’re not getting anything in return in fact we’re getting
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That’s crazy. So you, young mom, paying more and more for your electricity, but when you need it, they’re saying you can’t have it.
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Exactly. And it just makes it so much more difficult to keep on top of when you’ve got everything else going with, you know, work and two little kids and, you know, running a whole household and all of the other things that life comes up with.
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Brad, what do you think about this? I was just going to ask, Kylene, at what point do you and your neighbors stop complaining to each other and get active and do something that can change the way the situation is? I know my neighbors complain, and then they go on next door, and then it becomes a terrible mess. Neighbor against neighbor. But the only thing that we can do, I think, is to go and talk to the PUC or talk to various elected representatives and get something changed.
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Yeah, and that’s a good point. One of my neighbors actually did post something about how we can contact the PUC and things that need to be said to them in order to get them to stop doing this.
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Well, and we also need to be reaching out to Jared Polis because he appoints the PUC. This came in from one of our listeners. She said, good morning, Kim and Brad. I believe Excel probably sent these notices out to everyone on the west side of town. As well, I received a notice, as did a friend in Arvada. This is probably a test run to see how tolerant we are of having our utilities shut off by the government. I actually, I put my tin hat on. I actually thought the same thing, Kylene.
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Yeah, I think so, too. And I’m all the way in Milliken, so I’m pretty far north.
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compared to arvada and so it seems to me it’s the entire front range at least so again other states have wind and they’re not shutting down power for their customers and so we when i say kyleen that we are at the tip of the spear of all of this stuff that’s going on i i really think that’s the case and so that’s why we have to continue to engage in These conversations. And I know that you are a very good communicator. You come from very, very good, very, very good genes to be a good communicator. And you say that today. Good genes. Oh, can I say that, Kylie?
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Are you wearing your jeans?
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But and I know that the other thing because of your genes is you’re not afraid. I just I have to come clean. You’re Susan Kochevar’s daughter. And so obviously you’re going to be a good communicator and you are going to be fearless. Those two things are great.
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Thank you. I appreciate that. Yeah, the apple didn’t fall far from that tree.
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I know that’s true. So what do you think, Kyleen? I think we need to… really work on the messaging here. As I’m talking with you and Brad, it seems like we need to be starting letters and letters to the editor and op-eds and just get a consistent message out there so that people can really connect these dots. I’m deducing, is that a word? That there are those maybe on this next door thread that are saying, being very altruistic, saying, oh, It doesn’t matter to me that I don’t have power for a little bit, not realizing that actually Excel’s job is to provide reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant power. If you don’t want to use as much power, then you should be able to make that choice, turn lights off or have your temperature lower, but make that choice freely, not because of force, Brad.
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Well, we don’t have an alternative. Do we? I mean, some people would say, well, you can install your solar panels. Well, that’s really not a solution. That costs a lot of money. When you have a generator, it’s a great idea for backup, but guess what runs it? Hydrocarbons.
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And they outlawed – actually, Kyleen, they took away the choice for people to have wood-burning fireplaces in construction before you purchased. Then they took away the option for naturally occurring natural gas and pushed everybody to electrification. And then they said, we’re going to take – then you can’t have it. And this is just – this is – Why can’t we have some competition? I think, wouldn’t that be a great idea? Great idea. So, Kyleen, final thought on this. Actually, I have to ask one other thing. Don’t you have to be careful if you have a camping stove or something like that indoors? It needs to be, tell me, you know more about that, but don’t people have to be careful if they do that?
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Yeah, absolutely. So one of the dangers of having a camping stove inside is that if the flame goes out and it’s just leaking the propane, that can very quickly lead to some poisoning and your quick expiration. So you have to be careful of that. And the other thing you have to be careful of is tip over and other, like a candle, you don’t want to be putting it Mm-hmm. It was similar in Texas a few years ago when they had that really bad winter storm and people didn’t have power for days and they were running their cars in their garage and of course getting carbon monoxide poisoning from that because they were just trying to heat their homes. They were creating fires in their house, which, of course, burned some of their houses down. I mean, a lot of people passed away in that storm just because they didn’t have power and they didn’t have the means to keep themselves warm in other ways because of all of the push for electric. I even looked up yesterday how much it would be to put a wood stove in my house, and it’s $10,000 to $12,000. Most people don’t have power. the extra funds to be able to put that in.
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Because of high taxes and fees is one of those reasons. And permitting. Yeah. This came in from Karen. She said this could be a test run. However, she was looking at that they want to prevent another Marshall fire and there’s so many homeless that are building fires and XL is doing a CYA again so they aren’t blamed again. So that probably makes sense as well. Kyleen, we need to join together and figure out a plan on this. So we’ll be in touch. Okay, sounds great, Kim. Kyleen Rush, thank you so much. Clearly, she is an innovator.
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Well, she’s a normal person, and most normal people are thinking, what the heck is going on? And how can we make it better, bigger and better than it is now? And I think there’s something else afoot.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. And if you are craving a real New York-style pizza and pasta, Little Richie’s and Parker and Golden have you covered. Authentic New York flavor with Colorado roots. They have daily specials and weekday lunch deals and a happy hour worth planning around. They are your neighborhood favorite. They’re always serving up something worth stopping for. And try out their calzones. They are some of the best calzones I’ve ever had. In studio with me is my friend Brad Beck. He’s an author at The Kim Monson Show, co-founder of Liberty Toastmasters. And let’s talk about your piece, Misplaced Generosity. This is really important.
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Well, I started thinking, you know, I love to always start off with a story that makes a point. And there’s a great variety of them, Aesop’s Fables. And there’s a woodsman who has an axe, an iron axe, but he needs a handle. So he goes to the forest and he asks the leader of the trees, can I get one of your trees? And the leader of the forest says, well, you know, there’s a little… ash sampling over here. Why don’t you just take that and build your axe handle? So he does. And then the next thing you know, that woodsman is chopping down all the trees. And the trees look at each other and say, boy, you know, our generosity. We gave this woodman. We gave this one up. And guess what he’s doing? He’s chopping all of our future down. And that kind of reminded me of what we’ve done recently in Colorado with various referendums that our fellow citizens voted the affirmative on. And basically, they’re more taxation. They extend sunsetted laws that have been in place. And what I have a real concern about is how we keep giving our fellow citizens money away. And we are coming up on the 250th anniversary of our country. And it’s a great thing. And we’re going to have parades and we’re going to have celebrations. And a lot of people are focusing on the things that a celebration does. But they’re not focusing on what makes us unique. And what makes us unique is for the first time in human history, a group of men came together and recognized the universal equal natural rights of all others. That is just fantastic. It never has occurred. And it got me thinking, okay, if that’s the case, then why do our fellow citizens not trust us to make decisions based on what’s best for us individually? Now, I’m not saying you shouldn’t care about other people. What I’m saying is take care of yourself, your family, your community, and then you can take care of the state. Everything else takes care of itself. Absolutely. And so as we go into this next year, which is going to be fabulous, all the things that, you know, if you go online, you see all the celebrations already, the history. How about reading the Declaration and the Constitution and the Northwest Ordinance and Lincoln’s Gettysburg Address and figure out really what this country is about? And it’s not about giving things to other people just out of need. I mean, I need a lot of stuff, but guess what? I’m not going to go into my neighbor’s garage and steal it. And that’s what we’ve become. We’ve become everybody needs something. Well, I’m sorry. I need a lot of stuff. But that’s not the point. If I save for something, if I work for something, if I use the source of all wealth, my mind, I’m able to build that wealth. But guess what? It’s so easy to say, hey, let’s just tax our neighbor. Let’s not trust them to make their own decisions. Let’s put the force of government, put a gun to their head and say you have to. Just don’t pay your taxes for one year and see what happens.
SPEAKER 15 :
So, Brad, I’ve alluded to this. I’ve never shared her name. But years ago, I did a lot of volunteer work. And one of the things that I did was I did volunteer work with the Junior Symphony Guild. And I loved what they did. They would bring designers in and have some of the old mansions in Denver, and the designers would – use their creativity and change a room and then tickets we’d sell tickets and then the money was used to do tiny tots concerts for little kids and introduce them to music and and I loved all that and there was a woman she was really a socialite in Denver I would say kind of the old Denver her her name was Barbara Urich and she was a force to be reckoned with she was this She was this beautiful blonde, although she said one time to me, she said, oh, Kim, I have to go get my hair done because if I don’t, they’re going to say, she has such beautiful blonde hair. Why does she dye her roots black? She was funny, but she was a force to be reckoned with. And she grew up in Loveland. And she told me this story that, and she’s since passed on, and her husband was an influential banker in town. She told me this story. And so they grew up. She grew up, you know, poor, in a farming community. And she said if somebody fell on hard times, they had what was called a pound party, where the neighbors all got together and they brought a pound of flour or a pound of sugar or a pound of whatever to help that family through those difficult times. But they never planned on that they would bring a pound in. every week or every month. And they also expected these people to take action to improve themselves. And that story has stuck with me all these years. It was by choice, but yet they required just that community responsibility of, we’re not going to bring a pound over here and have you sitting on the couch eating chips and playing video games.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, we found that out with the government shutdown, didn’t we?
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
People were saying, well, where am I going to get my money? Well, I’m sorry, it’s not your money. And enough people can work. But the incentives have been misplaced. Going back to the progressive era, to the Great Society, even to the whole Green New Deal, there is a misplaced idea that we can just print more money or steal it from our neighbors rather than go out and earn it from the sources of our money. which is our minds. And working together, we can come up with all kinds of wonderful things. I believe in benevolence. I believe in charity. But it doesn’t have to be coerced. When it’s coerced by the force of government, we always talk about freedom versus force. When the government has a monopoly on force, you have no choice. Other than going out and redress your grievances either by doing a petition or protesting peacefully in front of the Capitol or a city building or a school board and saying this is not right and it needs to be some changes. And I think, again, it comes down to trust. Do you trust your elected representatives or do you trust your neighbors? I’m going to trust my family first, I’m going to trust my neighbors next, and then I’m going to trust whoever we put into office. And if we don’t like it, we can unelect them with somebody different or better. But the way the force has gone, I’m telling you, it’s gotten to the point, well, we talked about it earlier, it’s Excel saying, we’re going to take precautions and going to turn off the power. Mm-hmm. Really? Okay.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, what other choice do I have? Well, and it’s because government and a big business, this is cronyism, have gotten into bed with each other on this. But it’s an important dot to connect that the PUC… All three members are appointed by Jared Polis. So this is the agenda of Jared Polis that is potentially turning off your electricity in December in Colorado. This is poor leadership.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, we get the elected representatives we vote for. And unfortunately, there are so many people in the metro area, Denver in particular, Boulder in particular, that have other means or can leave for a couple days. But what about all the people that are in trailer parks, in apartments, elderly? They have a job that they can’t leave. Exactly. You don’t show up for your job, you lose your job. And what about all the businesses that can’t do business? I mean, if you don’t have a small business entrepreneurial base, you have nothing. Because that’s what drives all the big business. That’s where the ingenuity comes from. That’s where the creativity comes from. And if we don’t have that, if all those entrepreneurs can’t work because the power’s not on… Because most people are not going to sit there and do work for three, four, five hours. Their batteries go dead. And then an emergency comes up. What are they going to do? So this just snowballs. And I think they have to take the opportunity now to start looking at how to invest in their monopoly on power. And the monopoly on power at Excel is they’ve made billions of dollars, not millions, billions with a B over the last four years since the Marshall fire. And I don’t see anything happening that would preclude this from being turned off. The power turned off.
SPEAKER 15 :
And so we’ll talk about profit when we come back because I think that’s an important thing. And these discussions happen because of our sponsors. Before we do that, though, I did want to mention the two nonprofits that don’t take any government money. And they do amazing work. And the first is the USMC Memorial Foundation. The official Marine Memorial is out here in Golden. And they raise the money to take care of it. and for the remodel, and make a year-end tax-deductible contribution by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. And then the Center for American Values, which is located in Pueblo, focused on these foundational principles of honor, integrity, and patriotism by honoring our Medal of Honor recipients through their Portraits of Valor and also great educational programs. And they’re nonpartisan, nonpolitical, just focused on honor, integrity, and patriotism. And that website is AmericanValueCenter.org. That’s AmericanValueCenter.org. These discussions happen because of our sponsors. We’ll talk with them in the next hour. And that’s John Bozen with Bozen Law.
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SPEAKER 15 :
And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That’s Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. And we talk about freedom all the time, but your own individual financial freedom is so important. And our friends at Mint Financial Strategies can help you. They’re an independent firm. They’re an accredited investment fiduciary. They always put your interests first. Mint means more than money. It means it stands for meaningful relationship, information sharing, a network of smart strategies, and a thoughtful advisor who puts you in control. So give them a call. That number is 303-285-3080, 303-285-3080. The text line is busy. Keep those cards and letters coming. The number is 720-605-0647. One of our listeners said, Kim, I beg to differ. This is not poor leadership. This is Democrat tyranny. It is very effective leadership toward the direction of lifting democracy above our American liberty.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, the founders didn’t want democracies, did they? No, they looked at it, and it was important to them. That’s why they created a system, a constitutional republic that has democratic institutions that allows us to gather, to petition, to speak freely, to debate, and then come up to some kind of consensus that will move things forward. Our whole system of checks and balances most people don’t even understand is Most people don’t understand the differences, responsibilities. And that’s the other thing is there’s not only a responsibility of our elected representatives. We, the citizens, have a responsibility. The idea of pursuit of happiness is really self-regulation. It’s not to go out and get stuff. It’s not to be hedonistic. It’s to be regulated. And that’s where you find happiness, not just this constant want or need or taking from others. It’s to be self-restrained.
SPEAKER 15 :
It is to be self-restrained. This came in on the line regarding our elections. As you know, Brad, we have two lawsuits that is based on proof. In fact, in the 2024 election— 14,500 people. And we had to have a small list because as you get closer to the election under NIVRA, the National Voting Rights Act, there’s all kinds of constraints. So within those constraints, 14,500 people voted that should not have gotten ballots. So as one of our listeners said, are we voting for these people? Good question. And we With that, before we lose any time, this is really interesting. I’m watching the petition here for Tina Peters where we are calling on Jared Polis. They’re messing up over here for everyday people with this whole power thing. He could make himself look good by releasing Tina Peters. And this is just so interesting. Coming in from the woodlands in Texas, Live Oak, California. Grass Valley, California, West Bloomfield, Michigan, in addition to people from Colorado, this is getting national attention. Sign the petition and share it with folks to ask them to do the humanitarian thing.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, and we always talk about cost, just from a financial standpoint. It’s costing a fortune to keep her in prison, and she’s not a flight risk. I mean, she could have an ankle bracelet at her home and carry on. It’s more humane. And, you know, being at home is not necessarily all the time the best place to be. Yeah. It can drive you crazy, especially if you work from home all the time. You need to get out. But the point being is there are reasons why we have prisons. And I really question whether or not she’s the kind of person that needs to be in prison for what she did or didn’t do.
SPEAKER 15 :
Mm-hmm. I think that’s important. Let’s run over here to the word profit. You mentioned Xcel Energy made billions of dollars. I do not begrudge anyone making profit. Nor do I. As long as it is the free exchange of value for value. So, for example, if I come up with an idea and other people like it and they’re willing to pay me, you know, trade their value for value. I make money. They have value. That’s great. And if the idea that I have a lot of people like it, then I make a lot of money. And so the goal there isn’t to make money. The goal is to provide something that people like, and it makes their lives better, and they will trade value for value. But when you add in coercion, when you add in, for example… the PUC, Jared Polis, and Excel, and you said they made billions of dollars. Well, there’s no competition. There’s a monopoly. You’ve got PBIs that are determining how much they can make. This is not the way it’s supposed to work.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, and if you have the free marketplace and exchange a service for a dollar or goods for a dollar, that’s the free value of the market, value for value. When you have a monopoly on the use of force, like the government does, and… regulatory agencies, that’s when it gets out of balance. And we’re out of balance, and we have been out of balance, and people don’t know what to do. And so just like with this Tina Peters petition, I think there needs to be more active citizens going out and saying, hey, we need to do something about this. And quit saying, well, somebody ought to. Why don’t our listeners get involved and do something? Why doesn’t somebody who says, you know, I’m just, as they used to say, I’m mad as heck and I’m not going to take it anymore. Then what are you going to do about it? Exactly. Well, first with your family and your neighbors and talk to them. Find out what you can do. And not everybody’s an expert at this, but if one person is really good at research and another person is really good at writing. And another person is really good at articulating these ideas and going to meetings from the town and from school boards or whether it’s a library district. I mean, look at your tax bill and see how many taxing districts you have besides all the metro districts and the water districts and the law districts. You know, I mean, it’s just ridiculous.
SPEAKER 15 :
It’s amazing we have any money to do anything.
SPEAKER 08 :
You have money? I have none. Yeah, I know. At the end of the month, I have no money. Okay.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay, a couple of things. This came in. Oh, Brad, I need to run this by you. And you’re going to stay for the next. Okay. This came in from Jenny. She said, maybe all the people sitting in the dark can watch a climate conversation on their phones. which that is the documentary that DeWalt Johnson put together, and I had the great honor to moderate. But we’ve got a couple of minutes. Button this up for us, and then we’ll go to the second hour.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, as I started this essay talking about the woodsman going to the king of the woods and asking for a young sapling and building an axe, and then next thing you know, we’re building a handle for an axe and start chopping down the trees. We have to start thinking a little bit more and harder about cutting down that sapling of liberty because liberty has not been the normal way of human existence. It’s a precious thing. And as we come up to 250 years, it’s important that we reflect on it and defend it. Not enough people are taking the time to think about defending it.
SPEAKER 15 :
And offering our youth’s future up as a sacrifice is, I would say, that’s the same as this young sapling. But the thing about it is, is with tyranny, with dictators, if you don’t stand against them, it’s not going to get better. And that’s why we engage in this battle of ideas.
SPEAKER 08 :
Absolutely. And I appreciate you giving me the time to be one of the advocates for liberty.
SPEAKER 15 :
I love it. And our quote for the end of the show, I went to John Ruskin, and he said this. He said, people are eternally divided into two classes, the believer, the builder, and the praiser, and the unbeliever, the destroyer, and the critic. Wow. So my friends today, be grateful. Read great books. Think good thoughts. Listen to beautiful music. Communicate and listen well. Live honestly and authentically. Strive for high ideals. And like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you. God bless America. And oh, I’m a little early. I got mixed up. I have 20 more seconds. So I’m going to say, Brad, it’s great to have you here.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, thank you. And my thoughts and prayers are with all the folks in Australia who’ve gone through some terrible things and those that lost family members at Brown University.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, this is pretty tragic. So thoughts and prayers for all of them. And so we’re going to be back. You’re going to stay here for the next hour. And so stay tuned. We’ll be right back.
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Is it freedom or is it force? Let’s have a conversation.
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Indeed. Let’s have a conversation. Welcome to our number two of the Kim Monson Show. And thank you so much for joining us. You each are treasured. You’re valued. You have purpose. Today’s drive for excellence. Take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. Thank you to the team. That’s producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, Amanda, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Tuesday, producer Joe. Happy Tuesday, Kim. And you and I are working like maniacs to get things ready for next week for Christmas to take some time off, right? I’m so tired. I know. I can see it. I think you need some toothpicks there because I know you’ve been burning the candle on a whole bunch of different ends, so I get it. I truly get it. But it’s going to be great. We’ve got amazing guests, and we’re going to do a couple of evergreens. I have not talked with Colonel Rutledge yet, but I think we’re going to do an evergreen, I think, on the Tea Party. I’ve got to think about that. And then Ben Martin, who is a dear friend of both Brad Beck’s and mine. In fact, he was a co-founder with you for Liberty Toastmasters, right?
SPEAKER 08 :
He was. He was one of our charter members.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay, and we did a great interview with him, so I think that we’ll rebroadcast those two, and then we’re doing all new featured guests and featured content, which means we’ve got a very robust recording schedule right now.
SPEAKER 08 :
That’s awesome. I’ll look forward to listening.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay, well, Brad, it’s always great to have you here. As you know, we look at these issues through this lens of freedom versus force, and if something’s a good idea, you shouldn’t have to force people to do it. You should be able to engage in the battle of ideas and convince people, persuade them that it’s a good idea. But what we see with PBIs, politicians, bureaucrats, and interested parties, that they use really force or coercion, and that’s why we continue to shed light upon this.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, one of the things we have to do and get better at and practice is find areas of agreement with those that we oppose and find out what’s important to them. And then we can go to facts and figures. And if you start with a idea of what emotion do I want to work with this person on and not to be manipulative, but to find out what really makes them tick. And we don’t do that. We just say, oh, They’re the other. Let’s go attack them. And the only way you’re going to get to a point where you do have that persuasion is you have to do it at the heart. You have to find out where that story is that’s going to connect the emotional aspect to get your message across. And you can do that with your credibility, with contrast. with the connection of the story that makes a point. Very simple formula, but it’s hard to do. It’s like going to the gym. I know I gotta do a lot of different exercises, but I gotta do it constantly.
SPEAKER 15 :
You’re absolutely right. I saw someone who was a very effective politician. Very effective. I think inauthentic, not authentic. However, she was very good at doing just that, reading the room, and then being able to connect, might say, oh, I love your green sweater. That’s my favorite color, too. Now, if it really was her favorite color, great. But it might not have been, but it was that day. And so I always struggled with that inauthenticity. So if you can have, be able to read the room and be authentic at the same time, that is a unique skill set. And I think that people can, one of the ways to do this, to learn a lot about this is Liberty Toastmasters. I think people can make themselves better on that.
SPEAKER 08 :
all the time. In fact, we have a meeting for the Denver group this Saturday at 10 to 12. You’re all welcome to come. In fact, we’re going to celebrate the ideas of virtue. So the classical virtues, and we’re going to celebrate the holidays, both Christmas and Hanukkah. And what we do there is help people practice those skills of oral communication and leadership that will make them better in their jobs, in their avocations, in their ability just to connect with their friends and the neighbors and their family. And I just think it’s an important skill set, especially with AI.
SPEAKER 15 :
And I really think those that are authentic in this age of AI are going to really shine. And so Liberty Toastmasters is great. It’s going to be Liberty Toastmasters Day on the show on Thursday.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. And I always look forward to listening to my fellow Toastmasters do table topics, basically. You ask a question and then they answer it and try to be the best that day.
SPEAKER 15 :
And, yeah, I would encourage all of us. to join Liberty Toastmasters. Liberty Toastmasters Denver meets the 1st and 3rd Saturdays of each month at the Independence Institute and Liberty North the 2nd and 4th in Longmont. So let’s get over here in the spirit of Liberty Toastmasters Word of the Day. Oh, I think I forgot to spell it. It’s Multitudinous. And it’s M-U-L-T-I-T-U-D-I-N-O-U-S. And it could be very numerous, existing in great numbers. Number two, consisting of many parts. Number three, populous or crowded. And so your challenge is to use the word multitudinous in a sentence today. Our quote of the day is John Ruskin. He was born in 1819, died in 1900, and he was an English polymath. He did all kinds of things. And he said this, the highest reward for a person’s toil is not what they get for it, but what they become by it. And so that’s our quote of the day. I love that.
SPEAKER 08 :
It’s a wonderful quote. I love quotes. I can read quote after quote and quote and then write a little note next to it and then use it for speech for Toastmasters. Always a great way to get attention.
SPEAKER 15 :
And one of the things – and I see this all the time at church. We have a number of great pastors, great communicators. And I know I should not be looking at them from the Liberty Toastmasters component because I am listening. But when I look at how they’re able to move around and to use voice inflection and to use hand gestures and stories – I’m thinking, wow, this is good. This is very good speaking. And the message is starting good, too.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, they do it week in and week out. Yeah. That’s like what we do in Toastmasters is practice. And if you don’t practice when you go to a school board meeting or to a town hall meeting, you’re going to be fearful. Yeah. And not as effective. You shouldn’t be fearful. First of all, they put the pants on the same way you do. And second of all, they work for you. They’re your elected representatives. They’re not officials.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yep. And so you can become a better communicator and it will play out in all places in your life. And on the line with us is someone who knows how important communication is because that is his business. And that is John Bozen with Bozen Law. John Bozen, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 06 :
Good morning, Kim. You hit the nail on the head. I’m thinking about that. That’s what lawyers that go into trial have to be good at. It’s a skill set that’s always something I’m working on, trying to develop and do a little bit better. Liberty Toastmasters, great organization.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, and same here. I’m working on that as well. And I tell Brad that I had crashed and burned one time, John, in front of like a thousand people, and I lost my confidence. And Liberty Toastmasters really helped me, Brad, to get my voice back.
SPEAKER 08 :
John, I think she found her confidence back.
SPEAKER 06 :
She did. I’ve listened to Kim speak in front of others, and she’s got it. She’s definitely gotten over that fear. Yeah.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, and Liberty Toastmasters is a big component of that. But, John, this week I wanted to talk about pharmaceuticals. And there’s pharmaceuticals out there that people like results, like these GLP-1s, which they’re using them for some weight loss. Some people have had some success, but some people have had some effects on it. So talk to us about this.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, it’s gotten really scary, Kim, because I am getting on average close to two calls a day from folks that have experienced some really nasty stuff associated with their use of GLP-1s. Intestinal blockages, gastroparesis where your intestines, your stomach just kind of shut down. People that have had their gallbladders removed. I can go on and on and on. But it has become something that it’s opened my eyes. We knew it was a problem. And I can’t believe that the lid is still on this. It’s not going to last much longer. And folks are going to start really hearing about it more and more. Scary, scary stuff, Kim and Brad.
SPEAKER 15 :
So if someone has, well, and John, you and I are free market people. I think people should be able to make their choices. But the issue, my understanding in talking with you regarding these GLP-1s is disclosure.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, and when I talk to folks, I have not spoken to one yet that had any idea that there were negative side effects or adverse side effects. that could affect them the way they’ve been affected. So it is disclosure. It’s the pharmaceuticals’ responsibility, and more so now than when the drugs first came out, to let folks know, hey, there’s some problems that we’re seeing with these. So use them at your own risk, and that conversation, that warning, that disclosure is still not being made to the extent it should be. It’s the… It’s one of those things, Kim, where I’ve been doing this a long time, and we see the same pattern over and over again with pharmaceuticals. They are aware. They know that there’s some problems. They don’t do a good job disclosing them because money matters to them. It matters to all of us, but they put money over people, and that’s the problem with GLP-1s. A lot of folks getting very seriously injured from the use of these drugs. People can make their decisions, but they need to be informed decisions, and that’s the problem with where things are at now. People don’t know.
SPEAKER 15 :
So if people have an issue regarding a GLP-1, they should give you a call. What’s that number?
SPEAKER 06 :
Sooner rather than later. That phone number is 303-999-9999.
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Again, that’s John Bozen with Bozen Law and 303-999-9999. And then, John, I can’t believe that next week is Christmas week, and we’re going to get everything prerecorded, so we’ll talk with you a little bit later. But I wish you and yours a very Merry Christmas.
SPEAKER 06 :
And Merry Christmas to you, Kim, and your staff and everybody out there that listens to you.
SPEAKER 15 :
And thank you so much. And also, I can’t forget Hanukkah. Happy Hanukkah as well, because we’re in Hanukkah right now.
SPEAKER 08 :
We are.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
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Well, you have the 12 days of Christmas, don’t you? Yeah, but I don’t give gifts for 12 days.
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SPEAKER 22 :
Glad to be here, Kim.
SPEAKER 15 :
And just, I always struggle a little bit on how to pronounce your last name because the way it’s spelled and the way it’s pronounced are two different things in my mind.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes. It’s not very intuitive. It’s Worcester. I think it’s easier if you think of Worcestershire sauce, the condiment, or something like that.
SPEAKER 15 :
What’s the heritage of your name?
SPEAKER 07 :
It’s English.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay, okay. Well, great to have you here. And you write important pieces to keep people informed. And I wanted to check out this first one that was published just recently. The Senate rejects duly health care bills tackling expiring Obamacare subsidies. Nathan, I just got a notice for my… my insurance, and it is going up. Let me just take a quick look. It’s going up well over 10%. They’ve said that Obamacare was going to be affordable, but everything’s unaffordable. What about these subsidies? I don’t quite understand what’s going on.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, things are coming to a head now. I don’t know. Is your plan a marketplace plan?
SPEAKER 15 :
No, it’s not.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay. Yeah. So I guess, you know, one could argue that the Obamacare marketplaces has had a distorting effect on other plans. But in this specific case, you know, the percentage of people who are on these marketplace plans, they are said to face a cliff at the end of the month. if these enhanced premium tax credits expire, as they may set to be. Of course, there may be some extensions baked in that seems like That seems like a possibility to perhaps kick the can down the road if the Senate is able to negotiate something or the House can negotiate something in the next several days. But in the case of these two bills, one of them was the Democrats’ measure. They wanted to extend those subsidies for another three years. Incidentally, this is something they negotiated to end the shutdown. In exchange for opening up the government, they got a promise to be able to vote on this in December, and that failed, though it did end up securing four votes from Republicans. Meanwhile, Republicans advanced their own plan that was based upon the use of HSA’s health savings accounts for some people. There would actually be money placed in them. So this is in line with what President Trump has said about trying to empower Americans to spend their own money rather than giving it to the insurance industry. But this plan, this one also failed, didn’t attract any Democrats’ votes. Rand Paul voted against it. Steve Daines ended up not voting. Anyway, so this is the final week that we’re in. After this series of votes, we just have a few more days before the end of the year. And really, I think all eyes are on the House. There is going to be a vote on Wednesday, potentially a significant one, pertaining to this issue. And so we will have to see. It might not provide enough time if… If something passes the House that would include some extension of the enhanced premium tax credits that still, you know, that just could leave a day or so for the Senate to respond, that just might not happen. So, yeah, that is where things stand on this particular issue. But, you know, things could continue to evolve in rather interesting ways here both this month and then next month.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay, so Nathan, I just did a quick calculation. My premium’s going up 14%, which when they talk about affordable health care, that’s not affordable. So people are getting hit out here in Colorado in particular with higher costs for electricity, now higher costs for their health care premiums. But let’s go back over here because I don’t think I quite understand What you’re describing here, so there’s these Obamacare health care plans that people are on where the premium is being subsidized. Am I getting that right?
SPEAKER 07 :
So, yes, that’s what it is. This is something that was put in place during the COVID period. These were supposed to be short-term subsidies, but they’ve been extended now for years. And so what people will point out is that if you were to just yank this away, it’s true that some people on these Obamacare plans would see really significant increases in their premiums. something like for example for for some families you you might have like tens of thousands of dollars more per year that you’re paying on the other hand these are in place, at least hypothetically, as a temporary measure, they were put in place to alleviate strains during an emergency where many people were out of work. So we come back to the question, why was it possible for the insurance industry currently to readjust to a norm where people, if they lose what are supposed to be temporary subsidies, will suddenly be paying a lot more within Obamacare, which, again, as you point out, this was meant to make insurance, health insurance, cheaper. And so, yes, we just keep running into that same basic problem when it comes to the ACA and affordability.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay, Nathan, I’m going to ask you. This is a softball question, okay? And that is, so these people have these plans, and they’re being subsidized. So they’re being subsidized by their neighbors or through debt that we’re taking on that our kids have to pay. Who is benefiting? Who is receiving that money, those subsidies?
SPEAKER 07 :
You know, that would be… quite obviously be, I mean, unless we make it a little more complicated, yeah, it would be the insurance companies. We could also potentially say, you know, by creating a situation where apparently there’s now a new norm that the insurance companies have adjusted to, Maybe this has ancillary benefits for other players in the system. Maybe this is something that big pharma, that hospitals, that politicians themselves are comfortable with. If more money is flowing into the system, maybe they have other incentives. But most directly, it’s going to be those insurance companies I think that would benefit.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, yeah, thank you. And thank you. There are others as well. Brad, your comments on this. And Nathan, this is my good friend Brad Beck, who is an author here at the Kim Monson Show and a regular guest and many times a guest host of the show as well. Brad, your thoughts?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, Nathan, I appreciate what you guys do at the Epoch Times. And I’m a subscriber, so I read you all the time. But my real thought about this is getting to a solution. And isn’t the solution the separation of health care and business, getting the government to separate having an employer pay for health care?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, you know, I have to confess, you know, I’m not someone who has thought deeply enough about health. how you can really meaningfully both reduce costs and provide… You must be in Congress, then! Sorry! You know, that’s just the thing. I’m not going to claim to have all the answers. I will say it’s kind of interesting to see. It seems like a great difficulty that people have in the current order with just In general, it seems like the system now, it can be very challenging, for example, if you’re someone who is, you know, not necessarily at the scale of poverty of someone on Medicaid, but then also if you’re not very, very wealthy, you can kind of be caught in the middle and you end up paying a lot of money and As with many other cases, it seems like the middle class is caught subsidizing a lot of people elsewhere in the system, which is probably not an ideal situation. I think especially for younger people who are not that sick, if they’re looking at you know, their first health insurance plan that they’re paying, especially if they’re self-employed or if they’re otherwise not, you know, if they’re forced to operate with the exchanges, it can just be extremely expensive. And, you know, for someone who’s not like dealing with health issues that would require them going to the pharmacy or going to the hospital regularly. It can be very frustrating. I can tell you as someone having been out on the marketplace a few years back when it was very new, it was kind of shocking seeing just how expensive it was.
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SPEAKER 08 :
Well, thank you. And I hope people read it and comment.
SPEAKER 15 :
Definitely. And you’ll be able to find that at KimMunza.com and also that will be in the newsletter. So make sure that you’re signed up for that. On the line with us is Nathan Wooster. He is an award-winning journalist for the Epoch Times. He’s based in Washington, D.C. He covers Capitol Hill, elections, ideas that shape our times. He’s written about energy and the environment. And you can reach him at Nathan.Worcester at EpochTimes.us. So, Nathan, you recently published a piece regarding the Senate’s blue slip tradition is hampering Trump’s appointments. And we’ve talked with a number of people that have said that In some ways, it appears that Congress is slow walking Trump’s appointments, his agenda. What should people know about this?
SPEAKER 07 :
you know i think that the so talking about the speed at which appointments are moving through on the one hand you know in defense of the senate they did revise the rules to be able to consider many more of at least some nominees at the same time through what’s known as uh… the on block process uh… so so as that is happening though when it comes to these nominees district court for u s attorney two key positions There’s a tradition in the Senate where home state senators can actually approve or disapprove of the person, which can mean that their appointments are temporary. And this is one of the things that, in the case of Alina Haba, she was the nominee from Trump to be U.S. attorney for the District of New Jersey, ends up having to resign because, unsurprisingly, two blue state senators there, Cory Booker and Annie Kim, they both ended up declining to return their blue slip. And so she complained when she explained that she was no longer able to continue doing what she was doing, that the blue slip is an obstacle. And President Trump, he’s raised this as a concern. He said, you know, there’s multiple people who are going to be affected by this or who have been affected by this. The really key player here is the Judiciary Committee chairman, a man named Chuck Grassley from Iowa. He’s sort of a very longstanding fellow in the Senate, and someone who on other issues, I think, again, in fairness, he’s someone whose example was key to releasing details of the recent Arctic frost probe. He’s been in the president’s corner on many issues, but he has declined to change this tradition. The Senate Majority Leader John Thune has said this needs to be retained, or at the very least, this is not something that shows any real signs of changing. So we can get into it in a little bit more detail, but broadly speaking, it seems like, at least on this issue, Senate Republicans are not interested in changing what It amounts fundamentally to more of a tradition than to something even as necessarily hard and fast as, for example, the rule that ended up being altered through the vote. It can get a little technical, but basically to be able to do the blocks of nominees that actually required a rule change that one could argue would be a little more radical than simply changing the tradition of the blue slip.
SPEAKER 15 :
So, Brad Beck, your thoughts on this?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, you know, if you’ve ever been to Boston, they have the red line, and it takes you to all the historic, traditional places in Boston. And we have a friend, Mike Williams, who will say every once in a while you’ve got to get off the red line. You’ve got to look at the traditions and not destroy them. But look at alternatives and look at other neighborhoods, other places. And I’m wondering on this particular entity, Nathan, if it’s something that we as citizens need to put a little pressure on the Senate to say get off that tradition because it’s not moving things forward. What are your thoughts?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I think fundamentally, I mean, there’s always value to the Senate remaining a somewhat different institution than the House. I think it was designed by the founders to be a little bit less responsive to the popular will, and there can be a bad side to that, but some would argue, well, perhaps this would be abused then by, you know, if there’s a Democrat in the White House and Democrats… in control of the Senate, they would then be able to take advantage of this. Republicans might not like it if you had very liberal, very left-leaning people in these key judiciary branch posts. But at the same time, yes, I mean, we’ve seen a willingness after, in the case of those nominees, it became clear that the sort of standard pace at which nominees are approved is in the Senate that Democrats were not interested in, even with non-controversial nominees, allowing them to get through. They were playing, you might say they were playing for keeps in a way that for a long time I think Republicans in the Senate They showed what one might describe as a great deal of patience. And so that meant that for many months, nominees were moving very, very slowly. That has started to change. There might be a case to be made here on the blue slip for the reasons you described. I will say, someone that I spoke to, Senator John Hoeven from North Dakota, he’s someone who’s, in his personality, very moderate a very very gentle guy but someone who on he said that he he served as an intermediary on that at least several days ago I haven’t spoken to him about this since, but he said several days ago he intended to talk to Grassley, again, the judiciary chairman who is interested in retaining the position, to try to find some middle path. Is it possible, for example, to, on at least some of these nominations, modify the blue slip tradition? And he’s spoken to President Trump about his frustration. We will see, because this is not the first time the blue slip issue keeps coming up. It came up several months ago. I suspect there’s a possibility that the Senate could ultimately end up… end up rethinking it, though, with all the caveats that I mentioned. Certainly, I think if people are interested in seeing change on this, as with any other issue, you know, it doesn’t hurt to try to make that clear to your lawmaker, to your representative in the Senate. But certainly, you know, Senators, Judiciary Chairman Chuck Grassley, Tom Tillis of North Carolina, other people, particularly those on the Judiciary Committee, many of them do seem pretty committed to this tradition.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay, and they would probably be good to reach out to as well. So Nathan Wooster, we’re just about out of time. However, you just posted this today, that Speaker Johnson has a health care plan. This is at the Epoch Times. Here’s what’s in it. So what is in that?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, you know, it’s worth noting in all of this discussion about what the health care plan could look like, we have moving parts. And so right now on the Republican side, You have to remember that there have been multiple discharge petitions from Republicans and Democrats that would bring about some sort of a health care plan, but that might also end up extending, not for three full years, but for one or perhaps two years, those enhanced premium tax credits that I was speaking about.
SPEAKER 15 :
So, hey, Nathan, before you move on, what is a discharge petition?
SPEAKER 07 :
That’s a great question. A discharge petition is something that basically is a way to try to advance a particular piece of legislation to move it to the floor so that it can get a vote. And so these discharge petitions, they have to get a certain number of signatures to actually make it to the floor for a vote. and I don’t believe either of them are at that point now, but basically they’re a way to try to tell leadership, hey, this is something we want to see this get taken care of pretty quickly to at least get that vote. So in this case, The plan is the Lower Health Care Premiums for All Act. And so this is one that would specifically affect the association health plans. This would be a means of essentially enabling some sort of at least partial solution to this health care issue. But on the other hand, on the issue of those subsidies does not really, by itself, necessarily address this very, I would say, down-to-the-wire issue. It seems possible, and this is something I have not been able to get a good answer from many Democrats, if something like this plan, the Meeks plan, the Lower Health Care Premium Stroll Act, if they ended up being paired with a phase-down of the subsidies over a year or two, Maybe that could make it through the Senate and the House, but yeah, that’s still an open question. As I said, we’re approaching the very end of the year. There can be maneuvers taken to try to essentially extend the period allowed for people to be able to get on a subsidized version of a marketplace plan. But again, the logistics of that are still somewhat up in the air. The actual political reality, a little hard to predict. But, you know, we’re tracking this plan from Johnson. And the other plans, the ones that I mentioned that have discharge petitions associated with them, one of them is co-sponsored by Brian Fitzpatrick. And I believe there’s going to be a rules committee vote today. This might end up being key to exactly what happens on that plan. And this would be an amendment essentially by Fitzpatrick to extend the subsidies. And then we’ve had also Josh Gottheimer, a Democrat from New Jersey, advancing his plan. And that’s another one. We’re simply going to have to wait and see what exactly happens on his version of a bipartisan health care framework. He calls it the Common Ground 2025 plan. Okay.
SPEAKER 15 :
And the Lower Health Care Premium for All plan, that’s Mike Johnston’s?
SPEAKER 07 :
Mike Johnson. Mike Johnson supports it. It’s Marionette Miller Meeks who has been the force behind it. She’s a member of the House from Iowa.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay. And it’s Mike Johnson. Not to be confused with Denver Mayor Mike Johnston. I sometimes do that. Okay, Brad, do you have a final question?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, I was just curious because, you know, we’ve gotten into this mess. through government force. And, you know, as I look in my constitution, I’m wondering where it says that it’s the government’s job to provide health care, not to be nasty about it, but that’s a personal responsibility. I know we have folks out there that can’t, or for whatever reason, have a tough time getting affordable health care. But ultimately, it comes down to there should be, again, a separation of health care and the government.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes. I mean, we, you know, we come down, I think, first of all, to those fundamental questions. And then one thing I’m just attentive to as a Capitol Hill reporter, we come down to the political realities and also just the realities of once you vote into existence, either as a voter director, in this case, you know, someone in the Senate or the House, once you vote money into people’s hands, in this case for these subsidies, it can be very hard to pull the plug. This is how it often seems to be programs that are meant to be temporary. It’s politically challenging to get rid of them, even if they end up with… A lot of taxpayer money going to, in this case, subsidize insurance companies’ plans so that people who have those plans feel less of the sting. But then ultimately, you know, the taxpayer has to front that bill. Yes, it’s very politically challenging to pull the plug. Worth keeping in mind that Republicans have what could be a challenging midterm come up. And so they might feel political pressure as well not to change things. Certainly Democrats are going to seek to run on this issue, to highlight this, especially as Republicans speak about affordability. They will say, well, this is a big burden on affordability, these rising premiums without anything there in place to shield people from those increases. So, yeah, unfortunately we do live in a United States where I think some of these constitutional questions about the use of force um in relation to taxpayer money um they appear to have in practice been solved by simply saying we’re going to try to have our cake and eat it too we’re going to just you know we’re not going to get rid of any popular programs that cost a lot of money but but we’re going to talk a lot about how responsible we are with money
SPEAKER 08 :
It’s like being a voter in Chicago. You never go away.
SPEAKER 15 :
And you clearly are on Capitol Hill on a regular basis. Hey, Nathan, thank you so much. Wish you a very happy Hanukkah, Merry Christmas, and we will talk with you at some point in the new year.
SPEAKER 07 :
Absolutely. Glad to talk to you, Kim, and glad to join as always.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. We are taking text messages, 720-605-0647. In studio with me is my friend Brad Beck. He is an author here at The Kim Monson Show. He’s a frequent guest and also a guest host. And did want to mention Hooters Restaurants. They have locations in Loveland, Westminster, and in Aurora. Great specials Monday through Friday for lunch or for happy hour. Great place to get together with friends to watch the games. How I got to know them, it’s this classic story of freedom and free markets and capitalism and PBIs, politicians, bureaucrats, and interested parties that want to control our lives. Brad Beck, are you a football fan? Because I guess the Broncos are doing well from what I hear.
SPEAKER 08 :
They are, and they’re on their way, hopefully, to win the Super Bowl if they keep going forward. I’m not a big football fan. I love baseball more. You’re a Dodgers fan? Yeah, well, I grew up with the Dodgers. You know, I’m purple on the surface, and if you scratch it, it’s a blue. So there you go. But I like certain sports and more some than others. Baseball, I love surfing. I grew up surfing in Southern California. So to me, it’s a great individual sport, you against the wave. Yes. And it’s a wonderful thing to watch as well. Yeah.
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OK, well, and go to Hooters and get some wings for the game. Absolutely. And again, great sponsor of the show. So coming in, this came in from Gammy. She said the Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment tomorrow they have a meeting to add more rules to the childhood immunization schedule. This is more data that’s now being used by the Academy of Pediatrics, which Pam Long, who’s a frequent guest and author here at the show, has said that the American Academy of Pediatrics is decoupling itself from the CDC and they’re pushing more vaccines. I was going to try to find… Who, how these people became, did the deducing on the PUC that there’s three commissioners and they are appointed by the governor. I got to figure out who’s in control of the Colorado Department of Health and Public Health and Environment. So I’m going to work on that.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, there’s just too many, quote, representatives or appointed bureaucrats to these different commissions. And what I would find interesting is if people in their community would take up the goal of looking at who is the, one, their elected representative, but two, who are the people behind the scenes? Who runs their town? Who’s the administrator? Who’s the lawyer on staff? Who makes the rules? What committees are in your community? And just show up and listen to them or listen to them online. And because they have to record it, open records and see what’s going on. I mean, so much stuff happens because we’re busy. We are busy. We’re trying to take care of our businesses and our families and the holidays are here. But that’s when they start moving stuff around when you’re not looking.
SPEAKER 1 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 15 :
That is exactly right. Okay, so December 17th, people are pretty busy. And so I’ve got to do some more work here. I’m over at the CDPHE and the commissioners, the co-chairs. It says the commission consists of 24 members, 10 of whom are members of the community that represent, to the extent practical, Colorado’s diverse ethnic, racial, sexual orientation, gender identity, disability, aging population. socioeconomic and geographic backgrounds. Sounds kind of like DEI to me. What do you think?
SPEAKER 08 :
What could go wrong?
SPEAKER 15 :
What could go wrong with that?
SPEAKER 08 :
24 members. It’s multi-tunings.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well done on that, Brad Beck. Let’s see here. We’ve got just a couple of minutes left. Let’s see here. Okay. Okay. question. I don’t know the answer to this. We should have asked Nathan. So when Biden was in office, were all of his nominees confirmed at this time? I don’t know the answer to that. And this is from Sandra. She said that to Kyleen, when the power was turned off in Loveland, they provided hotels for the folks that were impacted. So maybe have Kyleen check that out. And I appreciate the solution on that, Sandra, but But the solution is important, but we’ve got to really address the problem, Brad.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, and I think that one of the things that we’re at the mercy of is the electric company, XL, is taking precautions, which I appreciate they’re concerned about it. But the question comes up is, why are they doing it and the way they’re doing it? And why not put the money that some of the profits go back in the community to update infrastructure? And instead of CYA, they are doing something that helps benefit their customers. So when they do have a rate increase, we can say it’s value for value. It doesn’t feel that way right now.
SPEAKER 15 :
No, it doesn’t. And again, how is it that other states that also have wind are not having to shut down power?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, they call the wind Mariah up there in Wyoming. That they do.
SPEAKER 15 :
And I had reported that another… important dot to connect is that Vanguard and BlackRock both have significant ownership in Xcel Energy. And when I made comments to the PUC out in Albert County, I said that really your job is to be an overseer of Xcel for us, we the people. And that they are to provide reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant power to us. But when, because of all of this, that land grabs become part of it, and then you can see… And that would return ROI, return on investment, to the shareholders. But when you add in this whole land grab… It changes things. So I really encourage the commissioners to be on the right side of history and to deny this industrial transmission line in Elbert County.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, it’s often been said, follow the money, and it’ll often give you the answer that you’re looking for. But before we end the show, I just want to say you do such a great thing for the community with this show. And I’m so grateful and appreciative for all the initiatives you take. And on behalf of all the listeners, this is just a resource that you don’t get any other place. So thank you, Kim.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, thank you, Brad. And you’re a big part of this. And you were my very first. The first time I gave up the microphone, it was you. And the phone lines went down. And because of your training with Liberty Toastmasters, you figured it out. So thank you.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, thank you. Merry Christmas. Happy Hanukkah to everybody.
SPEAKER 15 :
Merry Christmas and Happy Hanukkah. And John Ruskin said this, people are eternally divided into two classes, the believer, the builder, the praiser, and the unbeliever, destroyer, and critic. Have a blessed day. God bless you and God bless America.
SPEAKER 16 :
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