In this insightful episode of Call to Freedom, Barbara Carmack and her guests discuss the importance of maintaining a spiritual balance between the spirit, soul, and body. Drawing inspiration from biblical scripture, they delve into personal experiences of overcoming feelings of inferiority and finding true identity in Christ. Join them as they share heartfelt anecdotes, reflect on personal growth journeys, and offer prayers that resonate with believers facing similar challenges. The conversation takes an interesting turn as they recount a memorable Christmas Eve service marked by technical challenges. Through faith and perseverance, they transform adversity into an opportunity for
Jimmy Lakey (Host) :
Welcome to Call to Freedom with Barbara Carmack. This is Jimmy Lakey, and I’m delighted that you are joining us for this half hour. You can reach Call to Freedom at Box 370367, Denver, Colorado, 80237, or by going to the website at www.freedomstreet.org. If you want to leave a message or order a Word Power Daily Reading Bible Guide or a Freedom Street Express newsletter, you can call us toll free at 1-877-917-7256 and leave your name and address, including your zip code. If you want to talk to Barbara right now, she is expecting your call. You may call that same toll-free number, 1-877-917-7256 to speak to her. And now, let’s join Barbara in the studio.
Jimmy Lakey (Host) :
Welcome to call to freedom. May your whole spirit, soul and body be kept blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus.
Barbara Carnack (Host) :
Well, we’re just always ready. We’re ready to talk about good things. Yes. And have we’re ready with an answer. So we might not have all the technical answers. And we don’t have all the spiritual answers, but we have joy. And when somebody asks me how I am, I realize, you know, I can’t always wrap my mind around how I am. How am I? How are you? I don’t know, but I know who I am and I know who’s I am.
Jimmy Lakey (Host) :
I know whom I have believed and I am persuaded that he is able to keep that, which I’ve committed and I’ve committed myself to this ministry, my dear friends. So we’re going to see this through. Ah, praise God. Even through all of the technology and all the computers, we know that God is able. I want to tell you that today we’re going to be talking about a spiritual balance between spirit, soul, and body. As 1 Thessalonians 5.23 says, May your whole spirit… soul and body be kept blameless. We’ve got to have a good balance. And I know it’s been many years. My flesh was in control. I wanted to eat what I wanted to eat. I wanted to do what I wanted to do. I wanted to say what I wanted to say. And so many times it did not work out. But, oh, take joy, my friend, because as Kimberly said, and Kimberly, welcome to Call to Freedom. It’s been quite a mission here to try to get all the new computers and everything set up.
Barbara Carnack (Host) :
New systems. I don’t remember if I shared this on the air at Christmas time. It was our big, we had our big Christmas Eve service coming up where we have three services and we packed them out at our church and they put a whole new sound system in just three days before the big service. We, we did not know what we were doing with ourselves and we couldn’t get sound checks and none of us could hear any on the platform. We couldn’t hear any monitors back at us and we were just singing blind. Can you sing blind? You can. I mean, it was like being deaf and trying to sing. It was so, so difficult. And we all decided we want to worship you, God. Yeah. We don’t want to be caught up in the technical part of this. We just want you to be glorified. And honestly, that’s what we want today. That the words of our mouth, the meditation of our heart, that we’re not in anxiety or stress or fear about anything, but that God is glorified because he is worth it. Worth it. Worth it.
Jimmy Lakey (Host) :
Worthy. Worthy. And here I’m going to interject because what you said about we were going blind. And then what did I think of? Three sightless rodents. Three sightless rodents.
Jimmy Lakey (Host) :
Okay.
Jimmy Lakey (Host) :
Observe how they motivate. Observe how they motivate. See, that’s the flesh wanting to intercede into what Kimberly was saying about the spirit. So you’ve got to be very watchful about what we say and what we think about because Kimberly, those thoughts are coming all the time, all the time coming into our minds about like the three sightless rodents that your father’s saying about all the time.
Barbara Carnack (Host) :
Yeah. So the thing about that, when we do have those thoughts that come up, if we keep them in conversation with our heavenly father, then he can guide and direct those thoughts the way they need to be guided and directed. And so being able to say, well, Lord, what do you have to say about three sightless rodents? Three decrepit rodents.
Jimmy Lakey (Host) :
Yes.
Barbara Carnack (Host) :
Observe how they motivate. And you know what? Honestly, being in a hopeless and a helpless and decrepit state, which is what our flesh is without the Lord. We are hopeless. We are helpless. We are decrepit. We are blind and we are deaf without him. And it is through him that we live and move and have our being. And I know you love to say that every day. It’s not just something memorized. That is something you live by. I watch you live by it. And I have adopted that in my life too, knowing that I’m nothing without him. I don’t have any capabilities without him. Yes.
Jimmy Lakey (Host) :
Before we get into what we’re talking about, which I really don’t know, Holy Spirit, thank you for being with us. We have a meeting this Saturday, February the 8th, and we’re going to be meeting at 10 o’clock at my home, praising God for his goodness and his love for us. Because as you know, February, we have Valentine’s Day. But the greatest thing I want you to remember is how much God loves you. He loves you with a deeper love than you can even imagine on this earth. So we’re going to have wonderful Bible study and wonderful praise and worship and then enjoy lunch and fellowshipping together. And if you’d like to bring a side dish to go along with the delicious quiche we’re going to have, you just bring your favorite side dish. I’m not going to say A through M bring this and N through the Z because usually last month it didn’t work out that way, and it was wonderful. We had delicious food, but it wasn’t according to the alphabet. So we’re not going to do according to the alphabet. We’re just going to throw that out the window. Oh, I’m so glad. Oh, so, and I want to give you the memory verse because this is such an important foundational verse, Mark 11, 24. And in the new American standard, it says, therefore, I say to you, all things for which you pray and ask all things for which you pray and ask, believe that you have received them and they will be granted you. And I love what the passion says in Mark 11, 24 through 26. This is the reason I urge you to boldly believe for whatever you ask in prayer. And remember, this is Jesus speaking. I urge you to boldly believe for whatever you ask. Be convinced that you have received it and it will be yours. And there’s no hoping in Jesus’ words, my friend. No hoping. It’s you got to believe. It’s believing without a doubt. And whenever you stand praying, if you find that you carry something in your heart against another person, Release him and forgive him so that your father in heaven will also release you and forgive you for your faults. But if you do not release forgiveness, don’t expect your father in heaven to release you from your misdeeds. Wow, that’s a serious proclamation. And I don’t want you to be left in that kind of situation where you don’t forgive somebody. And so you’re always dreading that God won’t forgive you. That’s a horrible way to be living this life. And that’s why we want to speak to you for a few minutes about a spirit of inferiority that you might be dealing with. I dealt with that for so many years, that victim mentality, that attitude that many believers have of battling every day of the week with a feeling of lowness and you don’t have your true identity in Jesus Christ. It’s what people have taught you and that’s how you see yourself. And Kimberly, do you have Colossians 2.12 there? Yes. Yes. And we’re going to read this because when you become a believer in Jesus Christ, you are crucified in Christ. You are buried with him. You have gone through the dead cycle. That’s what it is. You have died to yourself and now you live in Christ. So give us Colossians 2.
Barbara Carnack (Host) :
For we’ve been buried with him into his death. Our baptism into death also means we were raised with him when we believed in God’s resurrection power, the power that raised him from death’s realm. And continue through the 15th verse. Okay. This realm of death describes our former state. For we were held in sin’s grasp, but now we’ve been resurrected out of that realm of death, never to return. For we are forever alive and forgiven of all our sins. He canceled out every legal violation we had on our record. And the old arrest warrant that stood to indict us, He erased it all, our sins, our stained soul. He deleted it all, and they cannot be retrieved. Everything we once were in Adam has been placed onto his cross and nailed permanently there as a public display of cancellation. Praise the Lord. Mm-hmm. And by the power of the cross, Jesus led them around as prisoners in a procession of triumph. He was not their prisoner. They were his.
Jimmy Lakey (Host) :
Oh, praise God. It reminds me of the times that I was in court with Darren. And before I married him, I was never in court for anything. I had been on jury duty for a couple of times, but never in court myself with charges. I remember that when the judge… All of them. All the charges were dismissed. I’m so grateful God was there in full glory. But I remember when the judge said, you can leave. There are no charges against you. You are found not guilty. And when he left that courtroom, Kimberly, he was free. It’s exactly what Colossians 2, 12 through 15 is talking about. He took all of the charges that we had accumulated, took them on the cross. They were nailed to the cross with him. and took them away. And I believe some of you precious people are still holding on to those charges. You’re still feeling like you have borne something that you can never get rid of. And Kimberly, that’s such a lie from the enemy, from the devil himself.
Barbara Carnack (Host) :
Right. You know, you started talking about the insecurities that we can live with in life. And when we’re feeling insecure, sometimes that’s coming from generational insecurities. our mom was like that or our dad was like that or our grandfather was like that, you know? And when we know that about the generations behind us, then we also know that, Oh, that’s going to be a tendency of mine. That’s just how I am. And we cling to it. We, we, we start living with it and trying to make ways to, to continue living that way. We, we, we try to remedy our,
Jimmy Lakey (Host) :
with food with shopping with other habits to try to make up for it rather than saying no i can be free of this yes and we know that there’s a season for everything and we don’t just go on with the same season that our parents grew up with i know that it’s important i took on some of the guilt and shame and inferiority that my father had and it’s important that we get rid of that I want to give you a meaning of inferiority. It means insecurity, jealousy, pride, exaggeration to make you feel important. And that was a biggie in my life. I exaggerated just so that I would feel important. I just remember that even in grade school. If somebody told a joke, I was going to try to tell a better joke. It’s just really sad. Inferiority causes depression because you’re always thinking of defending yourself or trying to find a way out of a situation that you find yourself. A way out, a way, a way out. And then occurs hopelessness. You get into this attitude of hopelessness. There’s no hope for me now. And then from there goes manipulation. Well, if I don’t have any more hope, I’m going to make these people believe what I believe. So there’s manipulation and then control of a situation or people. So it just goes down. It’s a downward spiral, Kimberly, if we don’t catch this thing and catch it quickly and maybe not even quickly. I mean, years and years later. And then after I married Darren, when he said, Barbara, you’re an angry person. And I never considered that. But I was. The feeling of inferiority caused me to be angry. And even the author of Hebrews in the 12th chapter tells us there’s a root of bitterness that causes from this feeling of inferiority. So I want to ask a few questions here today, and you covered a couple of them. Do you defend your own shortcomings? And like you said, Kimberly, oh, my mom used to be like that, or I never learned how to do that, or come on, give me a break. And do you point your finger at others trying to find an excuse for your words and actions, blaming others for your problems? And we can do that. Very easily. Very easily. And where did it come from? right straight from the Garden of Eden, pointing fingers. You know, it was Eve pointing at Adam and then pointing at the serpent and on and on and on. So if you have been a person whose tendency is to blame others when a situation arises that you can’t control, friend, just lay it down. Just take a breath and say, I’m not going to do this any longer. Not going to defend myself. And number two, I’ve got one, two, three, four. Do you have feelings of being attacked by others when someone disagrees with you? Do you ever ask yourself, why am I taking this so personally? Is it hard to take criticism? And I found that really true in my past life also, Kimberly, that when somebody criticized me, I mean, I just got hot and bothered. And I wanted to prove that they’re wrong and I’m right. Oh, my goodness. And this is a big one. Number three, I derived my worth from my performance and appearance in so many situations. And I found that when I bound the spirit of inferiority, I stopped trying to please people. You and I were talking about this today in our home where when you were young, you and Dana were on stage. and you were singing for Jesus. And when I was young, I was singing on stage. So appearance became everything, almost everything. When you stand before a crowd of people, you’re seeing their critical eye, or you’re seeing their arms crossed, and they don’t even listen to the songs you’re singing. They are looking at the clothing that you’re wearing.
Barbara Carnack (Host) :
Or your hair. Yes. Or the way you’re standing, the look on your face. Yes. Yes.
Jimmy Lakey (Host) :
And that’s something we’ve got to confront. And this has part to do with our spirit. Yes, our spirit’s growing and we’re learning the word. But now we feel when we walk into a place where we’re not accepted. And you’re accepted, my friend, always.
Barbara Carnack (Host) :
Yes.
Jimmy Lakey (Host) :
Because Jesus is with you always.
Barbara Carnack (Host) :
Yes.
Jimmy Lakey (Host) :
Number four, so much of my life I was easily hurt by people’s words and actions, and now I can love without taking sides. When someone says something that before would have offended me, I simply love even the action that before would have miffed me. So even that thing that caused you to be offended, can we embrace those things, Kimberly? Mm-hmm.
Barbara Carnack (Host) :
We can. You know, we were also talking about how the solution to an inferiority complex or the solution to having someone really say some false things about you that are hurtful, harmful to your reputation. Right. I’ve had that happen six years ago when I had members of my family decide to diagnose me. And be careful of that when you think that you can diagnose your own family members with some term like narcissism or whatever it is. Yeah, you’re so paranoid. Be real careful about that because we don’t see each other objectively, right? It’s always very subjective. And we can’t diagnose each other that way. And when my family, some members decided to say that I was borderline personality, that I’ve got a borderline personality disorder, it shook me. It’s very, that hurts to have somebody call you something like that. And the whole family split up over it. You know, it just, that was hard to have everybody move different directions. And we were no longer a family. That’s really hard to go through that. Then I did go searching. I went to several different places to be tested and I had all these tests done, you know, so you go through wanting to know, am I really this? But you know what?
Jimmy Lakey (Host) :
You start almost to believe it, don’t you, Kimberly?
Barbara Carnack (Host) :
Well, when something traumatic happens, the the solution for me was to actually embrace it. And I was never by the way, I would never was diagnosed as borderline personality disorder. In fact, that all of that was thrown out of there were three different places that I went to for testing. And all three of them said, there’s no way that you have that disorder. But I went ahead and embraced the term because I started thinking about it. Borderline personality disorder, borderline, borderline. Well, you know, I do have one foot in this realm and one foot in the other realm, and that would make me borderline. And I think some people might be intimidated by that. Maybe they don’t like it. Maybe it doesn’t make sense to them. And it rarely makes sense to me. The things that I hear from the other realm, they don’t make sense to my senses. So I think I can embrace this term. And now it’s just a fun term between Jesus and I. We giggle about it. Oh, you’re borderline today. Yeah, I really am. This is great to have one foot in this realm and one foot in your realm, Jesus. So that was actually the healing. I think if we look at inferiority, we could do the same thing. If you feel inferior… Just recognize that you are. Yes. You are inferior to the one who created you. He is superior. But guess what? You’re also his best friend. He wants you. He loves you. He stays with you in every decision you make and everything that you go through in life. He wants to redeem and restore and repair because he is so enamored with you. Yes.
Jimmy Lakey (Host) :
We’re going to talk about that tomorrow, about that. The inferiority that we have, there’s two types of inferiority. And one of them we’re going to talk about tomorrow is the humbling of ourselves to our Lord Jesus Christ. Today, if you feel like you have feelings of unworthiness or that inferiority. Ask the Lord Jesus to take it. He will. Holy Spirit will take that from you. And especially when we look at Matthew 16, 19, where Jesus said, when you bind on earth, it is bound in heaven. It is taken away. So Father God, in Jesus name, I bind that spirit of inferiority, that spirit of unworthiness in my friends who are listening. I ask Lord that right now, in Jesus name, you take it away. Amen. that they can see themselves as standing near the throne of God as Jesus, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, and them at the throne of God. Thank you, Lord, for this wonderful freedom that they are feeling right now. I thank you and I praise you. It’s wonderful, Kimberly, when we recognize something, we can get rid of it in just a moment’s time.
Barbara Carnack (Host) :
that’s right yes yes and i think we all need to realize we’ve been given that’s our superpower we choose how we’re going to live yesterday you were talking about ordering our days don’t let the days order you around don’t let the what happens in the day define you you define the day yes oh it’s so important there’s in ecclesiastes 3 it says there’s an opportune time to do things
Jimmy Lakey (Host) :
A right time for everything on the earth. A right time for birth, another for death. That’s when you’re killing off those fleshly things. They’re dying. A right time to plant, another to reap. A right time to kill, another to heal. And you’re killing off those soulish desires. Oh, it’s such freedom. A right time to destroy and another time to construct. A right time to cry and another time to laugh. A right time to lament and another to cheer. A right time to make love and another to abstain. A right time to embrace and another to part. A right time to search and another to count your losses. Yes, we’ve done that. And now we don’t look at those anymore. We look at what God is doing for us right now. A right time to hold on and not let go. A right time to rip apart and mend. A right time to shut up and another to speak up. So in just a moment here, I’m going to shut up until tomorrow. And thank you so much for listening today. I know it’s been kind of rough, but we hope that the little technical glitches are going to be taken care of tomorrow. And I’m so thankful that you are such a supporter of Call to Freedom, both in prayer and in donation. Thank you so much, and God bless you. Kimberly, it’s been a delight to have you on the program today. And we look forward to a couple more days here this week before the meeting. Remember the meeting. Call me at 1-877-917-7256. Take joy.
Jimmy Lakey (Host) :
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