Join host Kim Munson as she delves into current political and social issues with a critical eye on government overreach. In this episode, we unpack the notion of ‘freedom vs. force’ and how it plays out in today’s legislation and community decisions. Special guest Kevin Lundberg shares insights into initiatives aimed at safeguarding children’s rights and futures, emphasizing volunteer efforts and community involvement for real change.
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That seems to me like government is establishing a religion.
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Surveys show that people still really prefer freedom over government force.
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Indeed. Let’s have a conversation. And welcome to The Kim Monson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You each are treasured. You’re valued. You have purpose. Today’s drive for excellence. Take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body, my friends. We were made for this moment in history. Thank you to the team. That’s Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Amanda, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Tuesday, Producer Joe.
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Happy Tuesday, Kim.
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And then our daily digest, we’ve been so busy with all these other things. Our daily digest will probably roll that out tomorrow. The beginning of May, and that will be sent out Monday through Friday in the afternoon. And so there’s all kinds of things for you to do there. Let’s see, you can email me at kim at kimmunset.com. The text line is 720-605-0647. The second hour constitutional expert, Rob Nadelson, will be our guest. And in segments three and four, we will be taking your questions regarding the Constitution, regarding the courts, the Supreme Court. And so that number is 303-477-5600. So get your questions together and call in with that. If you’re shy, which you shouldn’t be, but if you’re shy, you can text me at 720-605-0647. And as you know, we search for truth and clarity on these issues by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. Something’s a good idea. You should not have to use compassion or altruism to try to get it done, to take other people’s rights, property, freedom, livelihood, opportunity, childhood, or lives via force. And it could be a weapon, but it could be policy and unpredictable in excess of taxation, fees, fear, coercion, government-induced inflation, the agenda of the World Economic Forum and globalist elites. And that plays out at the United Nations, but it plays out all the way to local government, school districts. What we were seeing with this – and we’re seeing this in many communities throughout the metro area and throughout the country – is this upzoning. And that is really a World Economic Forum, globalist elites idea. And again, I want to congratulate the citizens out in Lakewood for getting four questions to a special election and defeating the upzoning. there in Lakewood, which was being pushed by the PBIs, the politicians, the bureaucrats, such as the city manager, and interested parties. And you can find the interested parties by just looking at the money. As you know, we focus on the issues. I’ll mention the people behind the issues, but we work diligently to stay out of the personality issues. name-calling, passion, emotion, and really try to look at these things with reason. Last night was our Colorado Union of Taxpayers board meeting, and I want to say thank you to this team. They’re all volunteers. That’s Steve Dorman, Greg Glansky, Russ Haas, Bill Hamill, Rob Knuth, John Nelson, Wendy Warner, Marty Nielsen, Ramey Johnson, Mary Jansen, David Evans, Corey Onezorg, Paula Beard, and Ray Beard. And join us. It’s only $25 a year. And you will have your shortcut to know what is happening down at the state legislature because you will be getting our email that we send to the legislators and the governor every week. I want to say thank you to the Harris family for their goal sponsorship of the show and really appreciate them. Our word of the day is solicitous. There we go, solicitous. And it could be anxious or concerned. So solicitous about a person’s health. Number two, it could be anxiously desirous. For example, solicitous of the esteem of others. Number three, could be eager, always solicitous to please. And number four, scrupulous, particular. For example, a solicitous housekeeper. So again, the word of the day is solicitous. It’s S-O-L-I-C-I-T-I-O-U-S. Your challenge is to use that in a sentence today, and it should be pretty easy. I think it’s a workhorse word. Our quote of the day, I went to someone that a bunch of you young people don’t know, but that is a comedian, Red Skelton. Joe, do you know who Red Skelton, have you ever heard the name Red Skelton at all, producer Joe? My mom’s mentioned it once or twice. Okay. Well, he was a comedian, and he was very, very funny. He was born in 1913. He died in 1997, and he was an American entertainer best known for his national radio show. and television shows between 1937 and 1971. And he was the host of the Red Skelton Show, and he has stars on the Hollywood Walk of Fame for his work in radio and television. And he appeared in burlesque, vaudeville films, nightclubs, casinos, all while he pursued an entirely separate career as an artist. But I loved this quote from him. He said, I personally believe that each of us was put here for a purpose, to build, not to destroy. If I can make people smile, then I’ve served my purpose for God. And that is Red Skelton, his quote of the day. Our bill of the day is on cut engaged, and you can make your voices heard. I will do that sometime this morning. But this bill of the day is Senate Bill 26-155. It’s Increased Access Homeowners Insurance Enterprise. So we talked with Bob Boswell yesterday about these enterprise zones, and then they are funded through fees. They call them fees, not taxes, so that they don’t have to ask for permission from us, the taxpayer, because under TABOR, the Taxpayers Bill of Rights, that is what is supposed to happen. So this is a workaround, and it is being done by both Democrats and Republicans. But in this case, this is all Democrats. Senator Kyle Mullica, Representative Julie McCluskey, and Representative Kyle Brown are the sponsors on this. And this is CUT’s commentary. It says, The bill establishes the Strengthen Colorado Homes enterprise in the Division of Insurance, the DOI, in the Department of Regulatory Affairs, DORA. The enterprise will charge a 0.5% fee on all property insurance policies to fund a grant program for resilient roofing and to analyze insurance risk in high-risk wildfire areas of the state. So I’m just commentary here. When these PBIs say they want to make life more affordable for us, charging an additional fee on your home insurance isn’t the way to do it. But anyway, it says, cut strongly opposes this Tabor bypass that will result in $30 million in fees, parentheses taxes, increased insurance costs to all property owners, all to finance grants that benefit only a few. This is not the proper role of government. Insurance companies can offer incentives to property owners without government involvement. And that is Bill of the Day 26-155. On the line with us is Leanne Thompson, and she is the president of the Jefferson County Republican Women, and she is tireless as she is working to provide events, to inform people, to reclaim our state and our country. Leanne Thompson, welcome to the show.
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Hi, Kim. Thank you for letting me make a couple brief announcements about some events that we do have coming up.
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Okay.
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There are two interesting ones. The first one is with Lindsay Datko. She’s the founder of Jeffco Kids First, and she’s going to be presenting the truth about what’s happening in Jeffco schools and protecting our children, and that’s this Saturday, April 18th, from 9.30 to 10. We have mix and mingle time with brunch items, and 10 to 11 is Lindsay’s presentation. The event is free, and it will be held at the Jeffco Republican Headquarters near Colorado Mills in Lakewood. Then our second event… We’re going to learn the fundamentals of grassroots politics with topics like talking with voters and the best ways to use social media. And that one’s going to be presented by the Leadership Institute on Saturday, May 16th from 9 to 12 at the Golden Hotel. That one has a ticket. It costs $10, which will include your lunch, and you RSVP at leadershipinstitute.org. Both events are open to anyone, including men and students. Sometimes we have more men than we have women, actually. And for more information, can be found at jeffcorepublicanwomen.com. So we look forward to having your listeners join us.
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Okay, and on this, Leanne, are both events at, again, what is that website?
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Okay, jeffcorepublicanwomen.com.
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Okay, and both events are there?
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Yes, they will be. Actually, the grassroots one is not there yet. We just got that one scheduled. So that will be coming up. But if you go to that website, there will be links to get to both of them.
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Okay, great.
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For information about both of them.
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Okay, great. Well, really appreciate all of your hard work on helping people become informed about what is going on out there. And greatly appreciate that. And just one more time, what is that website?
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JeffcoRepublicanWomen.com.
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Okay. Thank you, Leanne Thompson.
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Well, thank you so much. And we look forward to having everybody join us.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. And check out the website for the U.S. MC Memorial Foundation. They are hosting their big fundraiser, which is their golf tournament, May 14th, out at the Ridge in Castle Pines. And get your foursome together and register. Our website is usmcmemorialfoundation.org. usmcmemorialfoundation.org. It will be a great day. And if you’re not a golfer, you can buy a lunch ticket as well and support them that way. Of course, you can just make a contribution. They appreciate that as well. We’re going to be talking with Kevin Lundberg. He is a former state senator and the author of the Lundberg Report and on the board of Protect Kids Colorado. Just a very busy guy. He’s one of the producers of… It’s artclubmovie.com, which is the story of Aaron and John Lee and their daughter, who went to an after-school. She thought it was an art club, but it was actually a transgender indoctrination session, and it’s a very important story. And that was really a catalyst, I think, to get to Protect Kids Colorado. So, Kevin Lumberg, welcome to the show.
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Well, thank you. It’s great being with you always, Kim.
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Well, and let’s get an update on Protect Kids Colorado because, what, 3,500 people volunteered to carry petitions to get to these three important questions on the ballot. Have you rested a little bit? Are we getting ready for November? What’s this all look like?
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We are gearing up to launch the next phase of this campaign to change these laws here in the state of Colorado outside of the legislature. which, uh, the people of Colorado are, are, um, um, acknowledged as having that right in our Colorado constitution. Anyway, uh, those three initiatives, as we’ve said, talked about in the past have been accepted for the ballot. They will be on the ballot in, in, uh, November. Well, you know, we say November, but the way the elections are conducted nowadays, it’s in the fall. Uh, And so we know that we have to put on a very organized and intense campaign to promote just the simple truths of these initiatives. But there is opposition. There always is. And they want to try to talk to people in Colorado out of actually voting for these initiatives. So we’re launching a poll. The next phase and the first big step is going to happen on March, May. I’ll get my M’s straight here. On May 7th, down in Larkspur, which is kind of halfway point between the Denver metro area and Colorado Springs, we’re going to have a big, big celebration event. and push to get people motivated to stay on board. And actually, you know, you mentioned 3,500 people. Is it actually a little over 33 that carried the petitions? But if you figure all the other folks who are helping in some other way, it well exceeds 3,500. That’s a good start. But in order to really blanket the state with the – data and information that needs to happen, we need 35,000 people. And that’s what we’re intending on launching into. And this big event that we’re having on May 7th is a rally, I guess that’s probably the best word I can use for it, at a beautiful location that has been voluntary. donated to us. So, you know, we’re trying to be as strict as we can on the finances, but we’re needing to raise a significant amount of money to really go through this next phase. I mean, frankly, a million dollars would just be a good start for the process. And we don’t know, we’re a volunteer effort. You know, that’s another thing that’s really been fun is We broke the mold on how you put initiatives on the ballot, because the standard policy is somebody comes up with literally millions of dollars to buy signatures, essentially. You know, you pay professional signature gatherers. And we had a small portion of that, but only, oh, I don’t know, seven or eight, nine percent of the signatures that we gathered were through that process. It was kind of our insurance policy because this is a volunteer effort. And we’re going through with that secret weapon to the end with volunteers and thousands and thousands of people, but we’ve got to rally everybody, give them substantial things that they can sink their teeth into. Simple stuff, just explaining what’s happening. You know, probably wearing a bumper sticker, putting a yard sign out, things like that that make people aware that these are issues that need to be understood, talked about, and supported.
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Okay, Kevin, a million dollars sounds like a lot. However, if 10,000 people give $100 each, That gets us there. You’re there. And I think that’s very doable. And so I will be making my contribution this morning for that. And I challenge our listeners to do that. Because the early money is what is so important. Because the early money then allows… for planning, budgeting, and being able to get those yard signs. And so the early money is really important. So I challenge each of my listeners to give $100 today. I will do this this morning and make that happen, Kevin Lumberg.
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That’s fantastic. And that’s exactly what we need to see. And let me add a little more because I’ve run about 10 campaigns myself and And the irony is everybody wants to get on board in the last month or so, and frankly, that’s too late. And you can be much more efficient with your dollars. You know, I mentioned yard signs. If you have to blanket the state with reminders like that, they go at a very high premium in the fall in an election year, but just about this time of the whole election process, the The sign makers are much more negotiable, as well as buying media time and all the other things that need to happen. But as I say, this is volunteers. I expect we broke the mold when it came to the signature gathering. Well, we’re going to smash the mold when it comes to getting people engaged and involved in their area. You know, it doesn’t have to. You don’t have to take out the whole state. You just have to take on your corner of the world and make sure they’re aware of it and multiply that times 10,000 or 30,000 or how many people jump on and say, yeah, I want to help make this so. I believe we’re really on a roll to change the culture in a big way.
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Well, and we have a duty, a responsibility, and it goes clearly back to our founding. We’re in our 250th birthday here of our independence. And when Brad Beck was on the show the other day, he pulled out his constitution and his declaration, and he said that, yes, the words of life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness are important, but he said those last words weren’t. are so important where they pledge their lives their fortunes and their sacred honor and why did they do that because they wanted to pass on something really really good to the next generation and the generations after that and that was liberty well what we’re being asked now to do is to protect our next generations and that is a responsibility of a healthy society to make sure that we do not let our children be mutilated to make sure that we do not have men that are invading women’s spaces, and that if there are those that are selling a child for sex, that they go to prison for life. Those seem reasonable things to do, and reasonable people, I think, can agree upon that, Kevin Lumberg.
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Absolutely. But here’s the problem we have in Colorado is the legislature and the current governor, they’ve been going the exact opposite direction and promoting these things that need to be stopped. Even on the, you know, they’ve gone so soft on crime that the, you know, the perpetrator on children for, you know, buying and selling sex has become so… um, loose that, um, I’m, I’m told that, I mean, I, I’m even kind of embarrassed to even talk about these things in these terms, but, but if you rape a child and you can do that a couple of times and still go free, uh, the way it’s treated and we have to just put a stop to all of this and say, look, let’s get back to common sense, um, values that really do protect children rather than put them up for sale or put them on the display block. The men and women’s sports is not just the unfairness of it. It’s the danger on the playing field. You’re right, invading women’s spaces in the locker room. It’s doing things that should be Understood by all, but our legislature, our system of government here in Colorado has been going the exact opposite direction. So it’s time for us to step up. This is why people are getting engaged in this.
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Well, this is awesome. And Action Anna called in and asked Joe a question that is, is the language that’s going to be on the ballot the same exact language that was in the petitions? Yes.
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Yes. Okay. Yes. The petitions actually contain that. Now there are two things to understand when it comes to an initiative. One is the actual law that’s to be put into the state statutes. And that’s kind of a long, several paragraph type thing. But then there’s the ballot title, which will be on the ballot and understand we the proponents of the, initiative didn’t write that. It’s the title board that actually writes the ballot title, and they’re charged with trying to make it as comprehensive and clear, etc., but they’re also a political group. I mean, it’s populated by somebody from the Secretary of State’s office, somebody from the Attorney General’s office, and then the legislative legal team, too. But And I say all that to say, yes, what was described as the ballot title on the petition is precisely what will be on the ballot. But what goes into the law is the actual language, which was in the petition as well. And that’s what really counts. Because after this is put into law, the ballot title, we really don’t care about. What we care is what the law says.
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Okay. Well, and so this is gearing up, and I think that this is very positive because we talk about apathy with voters. I think that these three initiatives are going to encourage people to vote, and I think that that is great as well. So we’re going to continue the discussion with Kevin Lundberg, and we have all of these great discussions because of our wonderful sponsors. And if you’re buying or selling your home, be sure and talk to Karen Levine.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. And there are multiple core areas of planning for your financial freedom. With over 25 years of experience and the credential of an accredited investment fiduciary, Jody Hinze and her team at Mint Financial Strategies can help you navigate corporate and business structures, tax-aware planning, investment management, risk management and asset protection, financial qualified retirement plan design and administration, retirement plan and IRA distribution strategies, business succession planning, and estate coordination with your attorneys. So for a complimentary, that’s easy for me to say, complimentary consultation regarding any of these important areas, call Mint Financial Strategies today. That number is 303-285-3080, 303-285-3080. And on the line with us is Kevin Lundberg, former state senator, author of the Lundberg Report, comes out every Saturday, very informative. And Kevin, you had in there talked about the out-migration of businesses and people out of Colorado. It used to be Colorado was a destination place, but apparently that’s not the case anymore.
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Well, that’s not a big surprise either. We’ve been talking about this literally, you and I on the radio here, for years on all of the business unfriendly laws that have been put in place. And now it’s coming home to roost. The graphic that I put a link to in my newsletter simply says, demonstrated how many states are picking up businesses, small businesses, big businesses that have left Colorado. I remember about a year ago I was talking to a person who owns one of those big businesses that’s actually on that graphic, and I was asking them what they’re going to do about the rules that the state has put in for large businesses industrial buildings, buildings of 50,000 square feet or more, where they’re demanding that the energy consumption of that within that either manufacturing facility or, I mean, they’ve got different rules for different buildings, but it all boils down to this, is they have to lower their carbon footprint, you know, by lowering their energy consumption or maybe going to all electricity and things like that. And I asked this lady who owns one of these businesses, I said, so what are you going to do? And she said, well, we’ve been as efficient as we possibly can with our manufacturing facility already. And she said, here’s our solution is we’re building a new building in Texas. And sure enough, they’re on that graphic. 600 jobs are leaving because of that.
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So, Kevin, just think about this. I think these legislators and this governor who are pushing this should really congratulate themselves because what they have done with that company, they have actually reduced their carbon footprint to zero in Colorado because they’ve left Colorado. right?
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Yeah. Well, and that’s kind of the upside down logic they have. I mean, they’re driven by what I consider to be a scientific hoax. I say scientific because they claim it’s the science that carbon dioxide is destroying the planet. And we can make the difference by shutting down our economic activity here in the state. Now, I believe in being efficient with your resources. I believe in conservation in a very real sense. But this, you know, let me distinguish between the words conservation and environmentalist because the one is just good common sense use of resources. The other one is following this ideology that’s that says we don’t really care what it’s going to do to business, to people’s lives, to the economy of the area. We just are going to force everything into a net zero footing. Net zero meaning, well, yeah, they’re talking about the carbon output. You’re quite right. It really zeros out everything, doesn’t it?
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It really, really does. And that’s why I would recommend that people check out our documentary, A Climate Conversation. We did that about three years ago, and we have the filming for the sequel scheduled for mid-May. And it’s just really Socratic questioning around this whole climate narrative. And so be sure and check that out.
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Yeah, you guys have done a great job. You know, Walt and Rami Johnson, and I assume Heartland is probably involved in this still. Yes. Yeah, excellent, because James Taylor, who runs Heartland, what do they call it, Institute, I think it is?
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Yeah, the Heartland Institute.
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Anyway, so Think Tank, that’s actually based in the Chicago area, but they’re putting together… a good defense for reasonable conservation of our resources, rather than the environmentalist extreme radical policies that really try to fearmonger everybody into… I’m not even sure why they’re doing it, actually. The more I look at it and think on it, I mean… I’ve been very well aware of public policy and green policies that have been promoted. Actually, I was very much on board 50 years ago when I was in college. I actually organized a march on the school administration demanding that they lower their energy output by 10% immediately. I learned over 50 years that that was a bad idea.
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Well, we do. We learn different things. I was looking at this here. It says that a variety of things. It says the DIMMs now are for the rapid expansion of NWO, which is the New World Order agenda or the agenda of the World Economic Forum. It says people are starting to become engaged because the truth is, is coming out where there is zero truth emanating from many of those in the political arena. And George Washington, and this is paraphrasing this, but he said the truth ultimately will prevail where the pains are taken to bring that forward. And that’s what we do every day on the Kim Monson Show. That’s what you do at the Lumberg Report as well. And Kevin, when we were talking in the first segment that you were on, regarding this legislature and crime. I was going through the bills this week for reviewing them to get out to the team for the Colorado Union of Taxpayers, and I had written down a number of different bill numbers that… We’re not necessarily in the wheelhouse of cut. And so I don’t think I put it on for the team to review. And now I can’t find the bill number. But there is a bill number that is changing the definition of… homicide, I think it is, and that is you have to kill more than one person. Do you remember seeing that bill? I’m going to keep searching for it.
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Oh, boy, you put me on the spot on that one, and I’m not identifying it by that. Now, I do go through every bill that comes out. It’s kind of a big task this time of year, but I don’t recall that. It wouldn’t surprise me the way they’ve They twist everything around for very radical agendas that people in Colorado don’t really agree with. They just haven’t paid enough attention to what’s happening. I mean, so many things have been put in place. And in this last few days, of course, the legislature has been honing in on the budget bill, which is the big one. that the House sets a weaker side and the Senate sets a weaker side. And then the Joint Budget Committee comes up with what they call orbital bills that facilitate a lot of that. And that’s another area of mischief that is being played on the people right now.
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It is. It is. And I think maybe I found this bill number. I’m going to see if this is it. I think this probably is. Hold on. It is 1281, House Bill 26-1281. And Homicide Criminal Offenses, the prime sponsors are Representative Michael Carter, Cecilia Espinoza, Mike Weissman, and Senator Nick Henriksen. And it says… Says, under current law, if a person engages in conduct that creates a grave risk to human life with an extreme indifference to the value of human life and causes the death of another person, the person commits first-degree murder. The bill requires that the person, one, cause the death of more than one person, cause the death of one person and cause serious bodily injury to two or more persons by means of a deadly weapon. And it goes on from other things. So they’re going to change the definition from, from homicide, at least the way I understand it to, you have to kill more than one person. So that will be a way that there’ll be able to report that crime has gone down.
SPEAKER 08 :
You know what? You’re right. I’ve seen him play games like that in other areas too, but yeah, I’m, I’m looking at it right now myself. And, uh, um, The bill requires that the person cause the death of more than one person. Wow. And, you know, I’m sure what they’re doing… This is something that happens far too often in the legislature, is they legislate to the exception. In other words, they’ll come up with an example where they’ll say, well, it wasn’t right that this person received such and such a sentence because… they really didn’t do everything that was claimed they did or, or, or there was some, you know, extraordinary circumstance that, uh, um, that caused some, uh, form of injustice or seeming injustice. And, and so they’ll, they’ll make a, or at least propose a law that will cover every, you know, everything within the spectrum of that, that’s a crime and they change it for everyone. Whereas they, there, there should have been just a little more discretion on the part of the jury and on the part of the judge. And there is always the opportunity for an appeal as well. Right. No, they want to make a law to, to change it all for everybody because something went weird. That might be what they’re aiming at, but, um, It does look very suspicious to me as well.
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SPEAKER 18 :
And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. And the Center for American Values is having an On Values presentation tomorrow, April 15th, 4 p.m. And the featured guest is Lieutenant Colonel Allen West. And go to AmericanValuesCenter.org and you can RSVP to attend in person or you can watch it online as well. And the center is located in Pueblo on the beautiful Riverwalk. And focus on these foundational principles. They call it HIP. That’s Honor, Integrity, and Patriotism. And they just do great work there. So be sure and check that out and support them. And support the USMC Memorial Foundation as well. Kevin Lundberg is on the line, former state senator, as well as the author of the Lundberg Report. Kevin, what’s some other legislation that you want people to be aware of? You mentioned the budget bills, a long bill was introduced. And again, explain these orbital bills a bit to people.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, I spent a couple of years myself on the Joint Budget Committee, which is the committee that comes up with the budgets. And as we review all of the different departments and all the ways the laws kind of interface with things, we’ll become aware that in order to change the budget either up or down in certain categories, you might need to change some other laws at the same time. So always, every year, the Joint Budget Committee comes up with a series of bills that they recommend to the legislature that really need to be passed in order to make the budget work for the coming year. We call them orbital bills, and they’re usually introduced right before the long bill, the budget bill, is considered. This year, they came out with about 50 of them, and a lot of them are kind of little things. Some of them might even be good ideas because I think they might be – removing or truing back some, some, uh, programs, which it’s about time, but a couple of them kind of stood out to me that I highlighted in my newsletter this last week. And, uh, one of them is kind of typical when they have a real tight budget year. And that is that they, they sweep in all of the cash funds that are dollars collected through fees, for legitimate things like the brand board. They need some dollars to operate their oversight of making sure that the ranchers have their brand protected for their animals. And there are dozens and dozens of these cash funds out there that have been money collected for legitimate purposes. specific purposes. Well, here’s what they did this year. They came out with a bill that takes, I counted it up, it was nearly 40 cash funds that collect some total tens of millions, might be hundreds of millions. I didn’t do all the math, but it’s a lot of cash funds. And they just sweep it all into the general fund. And what they do is they pretty much zero out these cash funds And so we, the people, will end up paying more to fund them because that’s the way the system works there, too. Most of these fees are dependent upon what it takes to run the program. Well, if you collect the money and then you steal it, oh, excuse me, I’m sorry, you sweep it into the general fund, then, in fact, they have to replenish it in order to keep those programs going as well. Now, that’s one bill that I found within their orbital bills. Here’s another one. And that was 1407, wasn’t it?
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, I believe so.
SPEAKER 18 :
Excuse me, no. It was House Bill 26-1405, cash fund transfers to general fund. The sponsors on it has bipartisan support. It’s Representative Kyle Brown, Democrat. Representative Emily Sirota, Democrat. Senator Judy Emma Bile, Democrat. And Senator Barbara Kirkmeyer, Republican. So that is House Bill 26-1405. So what’s the next one, Kevin?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, 1401, which really stands out to me because it deals with the unclaimed property trust fund. Now, let me emphasize the word trust because this is literally a trust established by the state of Colorado for the people of Colorado. And these are funds that somebody’s lost track of that is some individual’s or some company’s property. And the trust fund is administered by the state treasurer and it’s supposed to be a system where the dollars go there and are kept in trust so that when that person or individual becomes aware of the dollars that they can go and claim them. Well, this, this is a very big pot of money that the legislature just can’t keep their hands off of. And they have, come up with all sorts of schemes to glom onto some of it. Well, this bill just flat out takes $75 million from the trust fund.
SPEAKER 18 :
This is House Bill 26-1401. And again, bipartisan support on this. That is prime sponsors are Representative Emily Sirota, Democrat, Representative Rick Taggart, Republican, Senator Jeff Bridges, Democrat, and Senator Barbara Kirkmeyer, Republican.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. Now, I know that they’re looking at a severe shortfall in funds, but frankly, it’s not because of an economic downturn. That’ll come later when all these businesses who are leaving, when that comes home to roost. But no, it’s just because they’ve been spending one-time dollars on multiple-year programs and projects. They’ve been giving money away to… people who’ve come into this country illegally and are now being supported by the state of Colorado and the local governments within Colorado. These are the reasons why we don’t have enough money for our budget, which has been growing at an astronomical rate for the last several years. You know, when I was in joint budget committee, the general election, fund was about $20 billion, I believe, if I remember. This was 2018. Now it’s way over $40 billion. It’s just nuts how quickly the budget has exploded. So they think they’ve got to steal the money from the cash funds, but this other one is stealing it from a trust fund, which If you or I were a trustee for a trust and you took those dollars and used them for some other purpose, you’d go to prison. That’s a serious crime.
SPEAKER 18 :
It really is. And we did a piece at the newsroom yesterday.
SPEAKER 08 :
I’m sorry.
SPEAKER 18 :
Go ahead. I totally agree.
SPEAKER 21 :
No, no, please.
SPEAKER 18 :
I totally agree. But Bob Boswell with Laramie Energy was on yesterday, and we talked about this whole enterprise and the fees. And we did a really good news article at KimMunza.com. Go to the news. And in it, it said – here we go. It said – And there’s Senate Bill 135 that’s referring a question to the ballot which would gut Tabor, and they have it under the guise of K-12 education. But it says, the Common Sense Institute’s December 2025 budget release puts Colorado’s fiscal year 26 total state appropriations at $44 billion, and the Colorado Joint Budget Committee’s appropriations report places total operating appropriations at $46.7 billion. It says CSI’s most recent snapshot of fees in Colorado covering fiscal 2024 reports that fee-based enterprises collected $25.8 billion up from $742 million in Tabor’s first year of effect. That’s a 3,400% increase against 196% for population growth plus inflation. This is unconscionable, Kevin Lumberg.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, yeah. Yeah. And it’s because they’ve been trying to work around favor, which says you need to go to the people if you want to put a new tax in place. But it’s silent on fees. And so they have figured out how to make taxes into fees. And sometimes the fee has no relationship to what the dollars are being spent for. Yeah. I mean, my head will explode if I try to explain it all. I know. And we’ll run out of time, too.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah. Kevin, we’re out of time. 20 seconds. Your final thought. We’ll talk with you next week. What’s your final thought?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, let me just go back to this big event that Protect Kids Colorado has. If you go to my website and on my newsletter, I’ve got a link there. The event is free to attend. And we are looking for a big, big event. But become prepared to help, too, because that’s what we’re doing is we’re launching for a big campaign for this election season. Thanks for your time, Sarah.
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Great work. We’ll talk with you next week. And our quote for the show is from Red Skelton. He said, God’s children and their happiness are my reasons for being. So, my friends, today be grateful. Read great books. Think good thoughts. Listen to beautiful music. Communicate and listen well. Live honestly and authentically. Strive for high ideals. And like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you. God bless America. Stay tuned for our number two.
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And you can email me at kim at kimmunza.com. Text line is 720-605-0647. And as you know, we search for truth and clarity. By looking at these issues through the words of freedom versus force, force versus freedom, something’s a good idea. You should not have to force people to do it. It’s not compassionate nor altruistic to take other people’s stuff, such as their rights, their property, freedom, livelihood, opportunity, childhood or lives via force and control. And force can be a weapon, but it can also be sneaky. It can be policy and unpredictable and excessive taxation and fees and fear, coercion, government-induced inflation, and this agenda of the World Economic Forum and globalist elites that are playing out all the way down to municipalities, school districts, special districts. Remember, something’s a good idea. You should not have to use force to implement it. It should be able to stand on its own merit, on its own premises, its own ideas. And on the show, we focus on the issues. And we’ll mention the people that are pushing those issues, but we really work to stay out of the personality infighting that can happen. I did like eighth grade in eighth grade, and I don’t like eighth grade in politics either. So we’re going to stay over here on reason and try to stay out of all that passion and emotion. Our word of the day is solicitous. And it’s spelled S-O-L-I-C-I-T-I-O-U-S. And it could be number one, anxious or concerned. Number two, anxiously desirous. Number three, eager. And number four, scrupulous or particular. For example, a solicitous housekeeper. But we have raised a solicitous generation. With all of this fear regarding climate change and all of these things that are happening. And we’ve got to get that walk back with this anxious generation. In fact, there’s a book called The Anxious Generation. And I should probably try to get that author on the show one of these days. Thinking out loud here. But the word of the day is solicitous. And you should be able to use that in a sentence form. The quote of the day is from Red Skelton, who was an entertainer, best known for his radio and television programs between 1937 and 1971. He was born in 1913, died in 1997. And one of our listeners, let’s see if I can find this on the text line, said that… Red Skelton ended each of his shows with a brief reverent prayer of appreciation, closing with the statement, May God bless, as he looked directly into the camera. And so this is his quote of the day. He said, I personally believe that each of us was put here for a purpose, to build, not to destroy. And if I can make people smile, then I have served my purpose for God. And our bill of the day, when we’ve been talking about fees and enterprise zones, is Senate Bill 26-155, and it’s titled Increase Access to Homeowners Insurance Enterprise. And that means that all of this income is outside of the calculation regarding the TABOR cap in revenue. And so this, in essence, is creating this new tax that will make it more expensive on all of our homeowners insurance. And anyway, the sponsors on this are Senator Kyle Mullica, Representative Julie McCluskey, Representative Kyle Brown. They are all Democrats. And this is the Colorado Union of Taxpayers commentary on this. And it says the bill establishes the Strengthen Colorado Homes Enterprise in the Division of Insurance, DOI, in the Department of Regulatory Affairs, DORA. The enterprise will charge a 0.5% fee on all property insurance policies to fund a grant program for resilient roofing and to analyze insurance risk in high-risk wildfire areas of the state. CUT strongly opposes this Tabor bypass that will result in $30 million in fees. or actually taxes, increased insurance costs to all property owners, all to finance grants that benefit only a few. This is not the proper role of government. Insurance companies can offer incentives to property owners without government involvement. My commentary, when we have all these PBIs, politicians, bureaucrats, and interested parties opine about affordability, And what are they doing? They are making your homeowner’s insurance more expensive. And when it becomes more expensive, it’s less affordable. So they say one thing, they do another. And I think probably John Bozen with Bozen Law has seen that happen, and he’s on the line. John Bozen, welcome.
SPEAKER 10 :
Good morning, Kim. Frustrating, isn’t it?
SPEAKER 18 :
Yes, a little frustrating.
SPEAKER 10 :
Affordability, let’s raise taxes. Affordability, let’s raise taxes on everything. Call it fees.
SPEAKER 18 :
As you know, words matter, particularly in your profession. But I wanted to ask you, regarding statute of limitations, why is this important in this personal injury arena?
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, let me tell what some folks out there listening are going, what exactly is a statute of limitations? as lawyers, we call them SOL, statute of limitations, are simply deadlines. And they’re deadlines that affect every claim out there. And it’s a deadline for if you have a personal injury claim for resolving that claim through negotiation or settlement. And if you don’t resolve it by that deadline or that statute of limitations, you have to file a lawsuit or a complaint against to preserve your right as an injured party to continue to pursue the claim. Very simple, but so many people get caught by statute of limitations, not understanding that there are deadlines for which they have to get a claim resolved. And those deadlines, they’re different for different types of claims. A motor vehicle accident in Colorado, typical, and I say typical because there’s different deadlines, but the typical deadline is three years. There’s circumstances under which it can be less than that. A trip and fall, a slip and fall, a dog bite, those are two-year statute of limitations. And part of what catches folks, too, is they’re different in different states. I talked to a gal, said, my friend told me the statute of limitations was three years on a claim like this. I said, well, your friend was wrong. It’s only two years, and then we talked a little bit more, and Her friend lived out of state. Most states it is two years. But where this friend was, and they must have looked it up online in their state or something, I don’t know, but it was a different statute of limitations. So people really have to know this stuff and should know it on the front end of a claim. And it’s just one of those things that a lawyer is going to inform someone of, this is when we have to have a claim resolved by, this is the deadline, this is the statute of limitations. And again, They’re different for different types of claims. They’re different depending on where you live. And some statute of limitations or deadlines are very short. If someone is injured by a government employee in the state of Colorado, you have 182 days to put the government entity, the agency or the employee that works for them, on notice that you intend to pursue a claim. And if you don’t do that, You’re out of luck. You lose the right to pursue that claim. So very important.
SPEAKER 18 :
So, John, we talk about prompt action if someone’s been injured, and that prompt action is not talking to your friend and asking them about the statute of limitations. That action should be, as you always say, first of all, medical care evaluation. Make sure you have all that covered. The next thing that should be done is to call Bozen Law, yes?
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SPEAKER 18 :
That is really important. And, gosh, that one regarding the government, 182 days. That one catches a lot of people.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah. That one catches a lot of folks.
SPEAKER 18 :
I’m sure that it does. So, again, what’s that number?
SPEAKER 10 :
303-999-9999.
SPEAKER 18 :
John Bozen, thanks so much. We’ll talk with you next week.
SPEAKER 10 :
Thank you, Kim. Have a great rest of your show.
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SPEAKER 12 :
Good to be with you.
SPEAKER 18 :
Not yet. 41 times. 41, okay. Well, it won’t be long. We’ll just say that. I knew it was in the 40s. It was in the 40s, yes. And lots to talk about. We do have questions coming in on the text line already, 720-605-0647. But there was a monumental decision by the Supreme Court just recently in this Childs case. And you’ve got a piece that is in the Epoch Times, I guess. It’s Childs v. Salazar. SCOTUS voids another Colorado attack on the First Amendment. So walk us through this, Rob Nadelson.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, first, you know, Kim, the name of the newspaper is pronounced by some people Epoch Times and some people Epoch Times. And I went to New York City a number of years ago to their headquarters, and I learned definitively how it’s pronounced. What is it? And the answer is, at the headquarters, one half of the people say Epoch Times and the other half say Epoch Times. So it’s fine either way. The Charles v. Salazar decision comes out of Colorado’s continuing war on the First Amendment, the effort by the people who govern Colorado to try to force everybody to subscribe to woke ideology. In this case, the legislature passed a bill which applied to therapists, counselors, mental health counselors. And it essentially told them if you have a child who comes to you, and I’m just going to use the example to illustrate the point, the child comes to you and is a little girl but claims that she’s a boy, you may encourage her in the idea that she’s a boy, but you may not encourage her to think that she’s a girl. I mean, that is the essence of the law. And as… The court decided 8-1 that this violated the First Amendment. As Justice Elena Kagan, one of the more liberal justices, said in her concurring opinion, the Colorado law was a classic example of viewpoint discrimination. That is to say, a state telling you what viewpoint you could have. And that is, to put it in constitutional language, a major no-no under the First Amendment. And so it actually, for most of the justices, was an easy case. Justice Jackson dissented. Her position was that the restrictions on speech were merely incidental to professional regulation, that the state often prescribes methods of treatment for physicians and counselors and other health care providers, and this really was in that category. The problem with that, as Justice Gorsuch pointed out in his majority opinion, is that if you made an exception and allowed the state to regulate pure speech through its licensing statutes, you would be issuing an open-ended invitation to censorship. So that is the Charles decision. As you know, Kim, this comes in the wake of the masterpiece cake shop decision where Colorado authorities tried to force a Christian baker to make cakes celebrating same-sex weddings. It comes on the heels of yet another decision, a 303 creative decision, whereby Colorado tried to force web designers to celebrate same-sex marriage. And on the same day, as the Child’s case came down, there was an order issued by a federal district judge here in Colorado declaring that much of Colorado’s open primary law violated the First Amendment. And that’s not all, because there also is a violation of the First Amendment now, whereby the state is seeking to force lawyers who use an electronic filing system to agree that they will not use any information that they gather while using that system in order to assist federal lawyers. enforcement officers in enforcing immigration laws. So there is a full-throttle assault on the First Amendment going on right now by the authoritarians who run this state.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, and speaking of that, I mentioned that we have just opened our community. We’re going to have our first online town hall next Tuesday. And the featured guest is John Eastman, who’s also a constitutional expert. And as I was looking up some things, Westward newspaper magazine said that basically that he should be silenced. And I thought, huh, that is so interesting that a publication would say that. As we talk about on the show all the time, we look at these things through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. And so if something’s a good idea, you shouldn’t have to force people to do it. And so here we hear all of this force, force, force, force, force. The founders said, hey, let’s kick the tires on these ideas. Let’s have freedom of speech and kick the tires on these ideas. And it’s attributed to C.S. Lewis that if… you cannot defend your premise, and I’m paraphrasing this, basically two or three questions in, then maybe you should check your premises on these things.
SPEAKER 12 :
Rob Nielsen. John Eastman is a good example of how the Biden administration in particular abused the Constitution. Sometime we need to have a segment of the show on my assessment of the Biden administration, which I believe was literally the worst presidency in the history of the country. Wow. That’s not exaggeration. I can back that up by a textbook full of textbook examples.
SPEAKER 18 :
We’ll do that next month.
SPEAKER 12 :
I’m putting that on the calendar right now, Rob Nadelson. So at any rate, John Eastman was advising President Trump in the closing days of the first Trump administration. And he gave certain advice to the Trump administration. I personally didn’t agree with all of the advice, but that’s irrelevant because probably the most respected of all free speeches has been the advice that a lawyer gives to a client. Nevertheless, he found himself targeted by Biden’s thugs. He was walking down the street one day when he was approached by FBI agents. They took away his cell phone from him and otherwise caused him great disquiet. I don’t know if he ever got the cell phone back. At any rate, John Eastman was a highly respected constitutional scholar. He was the dean, not just a professor, a dean at the law school at Chapman University. He had clerked for a Supreme Court justice for Clarence Thomas, which is the highest you can reach as a young lawyer. His work on the so-called spending clause of the Constitution inspired me to do some of the studies, which, by the way, have now been cited by the Supreme Court, some of my own studies. And for him to be treated this way is an indication of what can be done to people, even when they’ve got a certain fame and a certain standing. I mean, for ordinary people, of course, it’s a lot worse. The Biden administration used to send in SWAT teams basically to wake you up at 6 a.m. at the point of an AR-15. But, you know, I’m glad you’re going to be inviting John Eastman. I should also mention that he’s been the counsel in the Colorado Republican Party’s challenge to Colorado’s open primary law, which, as I’ve said or just mentioned, has been partially successful and I think would be fully successful on an appeal.
SPEAKER 18 :
Do you have an opinion regarding this open primary law?
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh, yeah. The hallmark of an open primary is that non-party members may vote in a party primary. I think that’s clearly unconstitutional. I mean, the First Amendment lists a number of rights, such as freedom of assembly, freedom of speech, and the courts have long recognized that an incident to the right is the right of free association. For example, you can’t put up an You know, you can’t exercise your freedom of the press just as a one-man band. You’ve got to have people to help you. That’s association. So freedom of association is protected by the First Amendment. Part of freedom of association is the right to keep out people that don’t share the goals of your association. So Presbyterians can decide that Muslims are not going to join the Presbyterian church. And Muslims can keep out Presbyterians. That’s part of the right of free association. Open primary laws violate the right of free association by allowing independents or sometimes Democrats to vote in Republican primaries and vice versa. So I think that’s clearly unconstitutional, and I think that some of the Supreme Court opinions, while being cautious, have pointed in that direction. It wouldn’t surprise me that if the Texas and the Colorado Republican parties carry their lawsuits up higher in the hierarchy, that they may get a ruling to that effect.
SPEAKER 18 :
Okay, and I asked about this yesterday for our listeners. What’s your thoughts on this open primary? Because I was talking with a politician or texting back and forth, and I’ve heard this argument from those on the Republican side that if we do not include unaffiliateds, and what’s interesting about that, Proposition, I think it was Prop 108, I think, in 2016, and I read that extensively, and I recommended a no vote on that in my voter’s guide, is that it included, it only said that unaffiliateds would be the ones that would receive a ballot from both Democrats and Republicans. It boxed out libertarians, independents, conservatives. All of them, it only sends this ballot, both Democrat and Republican, to unaffiliateds to allow them to vote in those primaries. Do I have that right? That’s my first question.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, you have that right. You know, I spent quite a bit of time interacting with the Montana election system, and there, under their open primary, Democrats can vote in Republican primaries. But you know what? Ultimately, it doesn’t really matter. The nominee of the Republican Party should be determined by Republicans, not independents, Democrats, libertarians, or anybody else. And while measures like Proposition 108 are facially neutral, in other words, if you just look at them, you can’t see bias against any particular parties, we know what their real purpose is. Their real purpose is to allow liberal-leaning independents to invade the Republican primary in order to defeat the nomination of conservative candidates. That’s exactly right. In the literature that promoted Prop 108, they talked about the need to elect more moderate candidates or candidates who better represent the Colorado electorate, etc. That’s all code words for preventing… conservative Republicans from winning their own primary. And so the intent behind the law is another reason why I’ve concluded it’s probably unconstitutional. I say probably because this particular area is not an exact science, and there’s not enough Supreme Court precedent to go on. It’s not like the Charles v. Salazar decision that we just discussed where the Supreme Court’s result was pretty predictable. But I do believe that if the case reached the Supreme Court, probably the Colorado Republican Party would win a complete victory.
SPEAKER 18 :
Okay. And I had asked the question, and one of our listeners yesterday said, I said, what do you think about this? They said, having open primaries in Colorado is like having the Kansas City Chiefs fans choose the Denver Broncos head coach.
SPEAKER 01 :
That’s right.
SPEAKER 18 :
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SPEAKER 12 :
It is. The only qualification for that is that the state argues that it gives ballot lines to the Republican and Democratic Party. And therefore… they’re entitled to regulate the system somewhat, and that’s been acknowledged by the Supreme Court. No question about that. However, the state has to demonstrate a very strong interest if it imposes a substantial burden upon a party. Judge Brimmer, in the recent U.S. District Court case, ruled that Proposition 108 had, in fact, imposed an excessive burden upon the Republican Party. So that’s one basis for my saying that if this case goes up to the Supreme Court, the state party might very well win it.
SPEAKER 18 :
Okay. Thank you. Let’s get over here to callers. Our first caller is Ron. Ron, what is your question for the professor?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yes, Mr. Nadelson. Can you hear me? We got you. Yes, I can, Ron. Okay. Sure. Yeah. Go ahead. My issue is with this word salad that they come in. You get these… politicians and these AGs and all the, you know, lawyers and whatever, and they throw this word salad around and attack the Constitution. And they, you know, then they try to find this little, you know, word salad manipulation to overturn the Constitution and It’s cut and dry. I don’t understand the Second Amendment like what they’re doing here in Colorado and what they’re doing in Virginia. I don’t understand how the Supreme Court will allow this, how they should even allow it. It should be cut and dry. You can’t attack it. Your word salad isn’t going to work and put an end to this.
SPEAKER 18 :
Okay, so just to clarify, Ron, this is, for example, how they’re putting through legislation that is infringing upon our Second Amendment rights because of the way that they are, the narrative that they’re putting out. Am I getting that correct?
SPEAKER 11 :
That’s correct.
SPEAKER 18 :
Okay. There you go, Kim.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay, Rob Nadelson. You know, the Colorado legislation, Colorado officials generally have been in the business of attacking both First and Second Amendment rights of people, which is interesting. because people on the left used to pride themselves on defending at least the First Amendment. Constitutions, if they’re well drafted, limit the power of government. And that creates a conflict because politicians go into politics in part because they like power. And they tend to become very impatient of constitutional restrictions on power. Now, they take an oath to uphold the Constitution. So they sometimes engage in a lot of word salad-ing, to use his term, in order to obfuscate or block from public view what they’re doing. But that’s, again, part of what politicians do. They use words in ways that are unintentionally or sometimes intentionally deceptive in order to cover up what they’re really doing. What we have to do as citizens is be able to decipher what they’re saying and explore what they’re really doing and to bring appropriate pressure to bear.
SPEAKER 18 :
And thank you, Rob. And thank you, Ron, for that great question. And that is why I think it might have been 2016, Rob Nadelson, that I did my first voter’s guide because I would get the blue book, and I’m like, what is this? This is just all words and gobbledygook. And so we went to work on that, and we were one of the first ones to do a voter’s guide. Now there’s a whole bunch of them out there. But we look at the questions, we assess it. First of all, we’ll look at the question and we’ll also look at the law behind it. Many times you’re not just voting on those words that’s on the ballot. There’s a whole bunch more with that, which is probably the case with Senate Bill 135, which is the… being referred by the legislature to the ballot in this November to basically gut Tabor. And looking at that, really understanding what’s going on as they are trying to gut Tabor forever. And so we will obviously be a hard no on that. So really appreciate the question, Ron. We have Mark in Black Forest. Mark in Black Forest, what is your question for the professor? Hi, Mark.
SPEAKER 09 :
Good morning. I’ve got some Indian heritage from a tribe, I think near your old stomping ground north of Missoula, the Flathead Indian Nation. Oh, really?
SPEAKER 12 :
By the way, I have some Indian heritage too, but it’s East Coast Algonquin. Wow. Sorry.
SPEAKER 09 :
So I’ve noticed how the tribal councils, they’re kind of like, They claim they’re sovereign, and they are sovereign to a certain extent. But basically, I’ve noticed what I think are unconstitutional laws that the tribal council has passed. And my question, my real question is, are the Indian tribes in the U.S. subject to the U.S. Constitution?
SPEAKER 18 :
That’s a great question.
SPEAKER 12 :
It is a terrific question, and it’s not easy to answer. And one reason it’s not easy to answer is is because, and there’s no polite way to put this, Indian law is a mess. I mean, it’s been messed up by successive generations, some hostile to the tribes, some sympathetic to the tribes. I talk about word salads. Indian law is full of it. Let me see if I can unsort this as best I can. The Indian tribes were recognized as sovereign nations. The word nation isn’t really quite applicable, but that’s the word that’s used. They were recognized as sovereign nations which had been conquered and therefore are dependent sovereign nations. A good analogy would be the Empire of Japan. After we beat Japan in World War II, we occupied Japan. Japan continued to be a nation, but it was a nation that was dependent upon us, subject to our military power. And it’s something like how the tribes are understood. That gives the tribes a lot of leeway within the construct of Indian law to pass laws. However, yes, they are subject to the U.S. Constitution. A tribe, for example, cannot arbitrarily arrest somebody and throw them in jail on the reservation without due process. And that’s partly because they draw their power from the federal government. And the federal government is not permitted to do those things. So it’s a great question. Generally speaking, that’s right, that they cannot do unconstitutional things. That having been said, it’s really hard to predict Indian law decisions because the law is so confused. I think there would be a tendency by the courts to try to lean over backwards and to give the tribes as much freedom or flexibility, put it that way, as they could in closed constitutional questions.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 12 :
Sorry if my response sounds a little like a word salad, but it’s the best I can do.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, that’s a great question. We’re going to go to break. Before we do that, I wanted to mention tomorrow in Pueblo at the Center for American Values, they will have an On Values presentation by Lieutenant Colonel Allen West. You can attend in person. You need to RSVP by going to AmericanValuesCenter.org, and you can also view it live. And again, that website is AmericanValuesCenter.org. And these are such wonderful discussions. And this is how we reclaim this great American founding is to understand what’s going on out there, understand our Constitution. And so this is Ask Rob Nadelson Day. And these discussions happen because of sponsors such as Lorne Levy.
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Welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Check out our website. Check out the website for the USMC Memorial Foundation. They are hosting their big fundraiser May 14th out at the Ridge in Castle Pines. It is their golf tournament. And if you’re not a golfer, you can buy a lunch ticket. But if you are a golfer, get your foursome together and sign up at usmcmemorialfoundation.org. We are talking with constitutional expert Rob Nadelson. He has been cited 41 times at the Supreme Court. He is the author of the original Constitution. And when we were talking with Kevin Lundberg in hour number one, We mentioned a couple of pieces of legislation that are of great concern. One is the House Bill 26-1401, Transfers from Unclaimed Property Trust Fund. And the sponsors on this, there’s bipartisan support, Representative Sirota. who is a Democrat, Representative Rick Taggart, Republican, Senator Jeff Bridges, Democrat, and Senator Barbara Kirkmeyer, Republican. And then also House Bill 1405, cash fund transfers to general fund. Again, bipartisan support on this. Democrats, Representative Kyle Brown, Representative Emily Sirota, Senator Judy Amabile, and Senator Barbara Kirkmeyer. They are basically raiding these accounts, right? Rob Nadelson. So the question coming in from Jenny is, what can a new governor do about these programs and the theft by these politicians of these pots of money?
SPEAKER 12 :
A new governor could join a lawsuit brought by people who challenge those particular bills. I’ll give you an example of the federal level. Some of the lawsuits that are being decided now by the Supreme Court were actually brought under the Biden administration, and the Biden administration resisted the taxpayers and the citizens who brought those lawsuits. When Biden was replaced by Trump, the government changed its position and sided with the taxpayers. The government could even take the position that we’re not going to enforce those laws because we’ve concluded that they’re unconstitutional, in which case the court might very well… dismiss them all, dismiss all of the cases. So those are options that the governor has. Obviously, the particular legislature that we’re dealing with now doesn’t have much respect for the Constitution that they, either the federal or the state Constitution, that they’ve sworn to uphold. It’s a pretty alarming situation that we face in Colorado. There was an article written by… And I’m spacing his name right now. Jonathan Turley, right? Professor at George Washington University who appears frequently on Fox News claiming that Colorado now may be the most hostile state to the First Amendment in the country. It also may be the most hostile state to the Second Amendment in the country and the most hostile state to its own constitution in the country. It is really a very strange situation for Colorado to be in.
SPEAKER 18 :
It really is. And when I say we’re at the tip of the spear on all of this stuff that’s going on, I’m not kidding you. We’ve got Mark and Aurora on the line. Mark, what is your question for the professor?
SPEAKER 07 :
Howdy there, Kim. Thank you for taking the call. First of all, I must say we American men love our powerful American women, and I miss those Ameri-chicks. I wish you kids came back someday.
SPEAKER 12 :
You know, I have to say I missed them, too. I often went into studio to be on their programs, but they’re gone. Two of the three of them are gone. However, there’s one robust American woman surviving, and she’s hosting this show. Thank goodness.
SPEAKER 07 :
Thank goodness is right. They spent me once or twice when I went to… contest them on the air, but nevertheless, my life was augmented.
SPEAKER 18 :
Mark, let me tell you a quick, funny story on that. And for those of you that don’t know the history, in 2013, Dr. Jill Vecchio, who’s a guest on the show, Molly Vogt, myself, were on a Sunday afternoon program, and we’re trying to figure out what to call ourselves. And Molly and Jill said, hey, let’s be the Americhicks. And I wasn’t totally sold on the idea. I said, I’m old enough to be an Amerihen, but that doesn’t have the same ring to it. So with that, Mark, what’s your question?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, Mr. Professor Nadelson, my hat is always off you, Mr. Squire. You are just not for real. Anyhow, I don’t know. Doggone it. I’m never the optimist, but with the two-party, uniparty control, I see no method that we can improve ourselves. The GOP are thoroughly rhino. The Dems are thoroughly satanic. Do you see any way out? How do you maintain your optimism these days, sir? Great question. Thank you, Mark and Aurora.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, sometimes I’m not optimistic. You know, I think that a lot depends on returning the Republican Party to its historic mission as being a vehicle for conservative values. And that’s why I think the open primary question is so important. That Republicans, the majority of whom are conservative, should be able to control their own primary. But on the other hand, I also have to say that I think there are beginning to be signs in Colorado that things are shifting. You know, things in politics sometimes change dramatically, like the collapse of the Berlin Wall. But usually the When you go back and you look behind the scene to see why these dramatic changes occurred, it’s because there were all kinds of quiet little changes that have been going on for some time. And I think those little quiet changes are going on in Colorado now. And in an article for Complete Colorado, I identified two of them. An article appeared yesterday. One was the ability of Protect Kids Colorado, of which Senator Lundberg is a spokesman. to qualify for the ballot, not one but three conservative initiatives, using almost exclusively volunteer labor. Now, I’ve led a volunteer campaign statewide, and I can tell you how difficult it is. And they did it. And that’s one sign that maybe people are beginning to rise up against our authoritarian masters.
SPEAKER 18 :
You mean authoritarian kings? When people talk about no kings, the no king day is July 4th, 1776.
SPEAKER 12 :
It’s absurd, of course, because we don’t have a king. And what they want, I’ll grant them they don’t want monarchy, they want oligarchy. So I could also say our authoritarian oligarchy, but that phrase has an awful lot of syllables in it. So the other thing that makes me very hopeful… is the result of the special election on April 7th in Lakewood. Now, the majority of the people who led the opposition to the densification ordinances were not conservatives, at least that’s my understanding, although conservatives joined in with them. As well as Democrats, it was across the spectrum. That’s right. But the vote, the decisive vote, was a vote for traditionally conservative values. like property rights, the right to rely upon things as they are that were reflected in your purchase price, the right to protect the value of your home, the right to protect custom, stability, keeping change at a slow and manageable pace. I mean, whatever those folks call themselves, and some probably call themselves liberal Democrats, They were fighting for conservative values, and conservative values won in Lakewood overwhelmingly. On the other side, the other side, as far as I could tell, was entirely a leftist enterprise. They engaged in all kinds of leftist rhetoric, and it made it very clear that, in their mind, this was a left versus right battle. And the left lost. They lost somethingly.
SPEAKER 18 :
And that’s why I was in a back-and-forth text with a politician regarding, well, the open primaries and regarding different candidates. I said, we need to have candidates that understand and can communicate. this vision of America, these foundational principles, because I think that those principles actually, and Lakewood is an example, is something that goes across party lines. They’re foundational. That’s right. And so I think we need to be talking about that.
SPEAKER 12 :
So, Mark, great… And very quickly, people need to draw the line from the Lakewood vote, you know, and saying, look, you… You may not identify yourself as a conservative, but conservatives stand for exactly the things you voted for in the Lakewood referendum and try to make the connections in that way.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, and taking back that, and we’re out of time, but is when I… The word conservative has been demonized, but what it is is to conserve and preserve this… this great American founding. And that, Lakewood, I think is an example is we can come together to do that. Rob, I can give you 15 seconds to wrap this up. I’m sorry, but that’s about all we have.
SPEAKER 12 :
15 seconds. My website is natelsonrob.com. Natelson is N-A-T-E-L-S-O-N-Rob.com. Also, as you know, I’ve got a book out there called The Original Constitution. Discusses what the Constitution meant right after the adoption of the Bill of Rights.
SPEAKER 18 :
available at amazon for an absurdly cheap price and thank you to all of these text messages and we’ll try to get to those again next month rob thank you and our quote for the end of the day is from red skeleton he said god’s children and their happiness are my reasons for being so my friends today be grateful read great books think good thoughts listen to beautiful music communicate listen well live honestly and authentically strive for high ideals and like superman stand for truth justice and the american way my friends you are not alone god bless you And God bless America.
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