Join Barbara Carmack and Jimmy Lakey on this episode of Call to Freedom as they engage in heartfelt discussions about faith in the midst of adversity. With practical advice and scriptural insights, the hosts guide listeners through topics like the importance of legal representation in divorce, the role of farmers in society, and the transformative power of prayer. As they address callers’ concerns, including Ron’s impending court date and Walter’s emotional struggles, the hosts offer prayerful support and biblical wisdom. These conversations serve as a potent reminder of the importance of aligning one’s life with God’s teachings while showing
SPEAKER 01 :
Welcome to Call to Freedom with Barbara Carmack. This is Jimmy Lakey, and I’m delighted that you are joining us for this half hour. You can reach Call to Freedom at Box 370367, Denver, Colorado, 80237, or by going to the website at www.freedomstreet.org. If you want to leave a message or order a Word Power Daily Reading Bible Guide or a Freedom Street Express newsletter, you can call us toll free at 1-877-917-7256 and leave your name and address, including your zip code. If you want to talk to Barbara right now, she is expecting your call. You may call that same toll-free number, 1-877-917-7256 to speak to her. And now, let’s join Barbara in the studio.
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On this Encore program, Darren and I discuss the ongoing realization of daily dependence upon God for every need. Ron calls in about an impending divorce and going to court without a lawyer. And Darren advises against that and prays that Ron has supernatural wisdom regarding his situation. Walter calls in and talks about the pain he’s going through because of a recent breakup. Darren explains to Walter that he may be experiencing grief because he’s been living in sin and and reminds Walter that God is love and he’s forgiving. We no longer have meetings on Tuesday nights, but you can have the valuable teaching that we gave on Binding and Loosing in our two-CD series, The Spirit World Around Us, for a gift of any size. Now let’s join the program.
SPEAKER 03 :
You know, John wants to take us to lunch. Let’s make sure he’s buying. Is he taking us to lunch and we buy?
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, well, it usually is the person that asks you out to lunch that is the one that pays for it.
SPEAKER 03 :
You saved your money, John? Yeah. And spending it all on the ladies. I know. Well, you know, Barb, it seems like the monsoon rains have moved in. I lived in Seattle nine years, and we never saw this much rain. And it’s just almost hard to imagine.
SPEAKER 02 :
Oh, now you did see that much rain. No, we didn’t. It rained.
SPEAKER 03 :
It was light rain. Yesterday, you had a deluge. The day before, you had one. The day before that, you had one. You know, the thing that’s hard for me still to imagine is above these clouds, there’s sunshine.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, but in Seattle, the rainy season lasts for months, doesn’t it? Even if it’s just a fine misty rain. But it’s still.
SPEAKER 03 :
But I’ll tell you this. I think they’d say in Texas yesterday we had a frog strangler.
SPEAKER 02 :
A frog strangler?
SPEAKER 03 :
Anyway, we needed the moisture.
SPEAKER 02 :
You know, that’s why I love Colorado. And then last night was such a beautiful evening, great sunset. The weather just changes all the time, and that’s what’s wonderful.
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You know, yesterday I was thinking about a lot of people travel this time of year. And when you folks are in the towns and the cities, you get out and you drive through the countryside. Please pray for our folks that are involved in agriculture. You know, I was thinking about and you could relate to this, Barb. I’m sure you’ll have a story from when you were a child and it hailed. But, you know, their whole livelihood is out there on the ground. And when the hail comes in, if they don’t know how to rebuke that hail, it wipes them out. Sometimes the bank says, I’m not going with you another year. Now, for us folks that live in the cities, unless you’ve been around folks in agriculture, you don’t understand. That means that they’re going to be out of business, and the bank may say, well, line up the equipment. We’re going to have a sale. Now, what that means is they’re going to have to auction that equipment off to the highest bidder, and all the proceeds will very likely go to the bank. And they’re out of a job and they’re moved off of the farm. And so I just encourage you as you drive through and you see the beautiful fields of corn and soybeans and corn and beets and all the things that are grown. And also wheat. Pray for the farmers that are involved in agriculture and just bless and bless their crops as you drive through the farmland. because our whole country depends on the farmers, and we haven’t given them respect that they need. So I’m just encouraging you to do that. And you’ll never meet some of those farmers, but I’ll tell you, the grain that they grow ends up on your table, or the corn that they grow goes through some cow somewhere, and that white milk that you get out of that blue carton in the grocery store, That came from a farmer or somebody that’s involved in dairy business. So just bless them as you go through.
SPEAKER 02 :
We were driving from Greeley to Denver the other day under very ominous dark clouds. And as I went by field after field of crop, I realized how these farmers do. live in a situation where from day to day it changes. And I desire, Darren, that our farmers get back to the Lord and they trust in God more than the government. And it has kind of turned around in the last 20, 25 years, where before that, farmers literally did trust in God to deliver them out of situations, hail storms and that kind of thing. But now there’s so many government subsidies that farmers have almost lackadaisically looked at God as just somebody up there and we don’t call out to, we don’t talk to. And, you know, I’m just saying that as a general statement. I know many of you farmers and farmers’ wives are Christians. But, you know, how many of us truly do trust in God alone, trust in God alone? I don’t know. It’s changed. It really has changed.
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Well, you know, it’s changed all over our culture, but we do need to depend on the Lord. And he is the one bottom line that provides for us. And we praise God for you folks that are involved in agriculture. We do. We’re city people, but we do pray for you. We want you to know that. And we do care about what goes on at your place and on your land. And so we just say, God bless America and God bless you and bless the work of your hands. And we hope that you’re learning to take authority. In fact, we have friends that are in agriculture and they’ve learned biblical authority over hail, for example. And they look up in the sky and they say, all right, now the anointing is. The anointing is hot, so we’re just going to melt that hail before it hits the ground. It’s going to come down a soft rain. That makes sense to me. And we’re using what we learned from these farmers. We’re using it in our house. We don’t want the hail to tear the roof off our house and beat up our trees. And those two precious little tomato plants we’ve got in the backyard. We just I like vegetation and I don’t want it stripped off of my trees. And I know yesterday I was across Denver and I could see out there near our house that it was really raining. And I say, now, I know Barbara’s out there rebuking the hail, rebuking this vicious storm. And I put my agreement with her.
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And I felt your prayer. Yeah, that’s absolutely right. And I have realized that as I bind the destroying spirit, the spirit of destruction, man, that really does do some marvelous things in the spirit. And Darren, tonight in our meeting at the Holiday Inn at 120th and I-25. We’re going to go into actual practical application of the keys of the kingdom, binding and loosing. And if you haven’t been to Darren and Denver, you haven’t been for a long time, you need to be there tonight because we’re going to take actual situations and we’re going to name those spirits that we bind and name the spirits that we lose on our lives. This is a principle principle. that was instituted by Jesus Christ himself, and it’s twice in Matthew. And I feel like this is a very important lesson that Jesus was teaching his disciples. So we’re going to do that tonight, 7 o’clock, Holiday Inn.
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You know, there’s a tragedy, Barbara, in the body of Christ, and I’ve observed it all in my life. My dad was a preacher, and I’ve shared that many times. And I’ve watched a lot of lay people, and I’ve watched a lot of people in the full-time ministry. If they died, they’d go straight to heaven, no question. But they didn’t use what’s available to them while they were here.
SPEAKER 02 :
That’s right.
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And so their kids got clobbered and they stood around and prayed and they prayed nice prayers. But Jesus wants us to be specific.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, he doesn’t want us praying wimpy prayers.
SPEAKER 03 :
Or shotgun prayers. Yeah, that’s right. Oh, God, help him. That’s a nice prayer. But if you want something to really work, you need to know how to specifically do battle with your enemy. You have one enemy and he has got a lot of helpers. That one enemy is Satan. He has a lot of evil spirits out there helping. If you know how to fight. and you can use the Word of God to really get up and do serious battle, you’re going to be a lot better off as a believer. Well, let’s talk to Ron on line one. Hello, Ron.
SPEAKER 04 :
Hello, Ron.
SPEAKER 03 :
Ron, are you there?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, can you hear me?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, let’s go for it.
SPEAKER 04 :
I’ve got to go to court at 1130 on a divorce.
SPEAKER 01 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 04 :
And I talked to you about it before. And I just don’t have a lawyer. I’m going in there just with… God wisdom, I guess you’d call it, you know.
SPEAKER 03 :
Why don’t you have a lawyer?
SPEAKER 04 :
I couldn’t afford one at the time.
SPEAKER 03 :
Can you afford one now? Yeah. Okay, let me tell you what I’d suggest you do. Go in there and say, I didn’t have money for an attorney at the time. I do now. Would you set this aside and let me come back here with legal representation? Do you have children, Ron?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. I have one son.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay, let me tell you, in the court of law, it’s all a money issue. You’re going to have child support. You’re going to possibly have to pay support to her. And you’re going to fight over property.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, we kind of settled everything out of court, you know. We both agreed on it, except we’re having a little trouble with the property.
SPEAKER 03 :
What do you mean by a little trouble?
SPEAKER 02 :
A little trouble.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, we’re having trouble with the property, you know.
SPEAKER 03 :
Like what?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, like. She wants it all, and then she’s going to refinance it and then give me $10,000 or whatever the equity is in it.
SPEAKER 03 :
Let me just tell you, a lawyer is going to cost you a few hundred dollars. And I’m sorry that this divorce thing is such a big deal in our culture, but when you get there, you’re going to fight over what happens with the kids in custody on paying child support every month and then property, like you say. Now, if you don’t mind getting cleaned out, that’s up to you. No, I don’t want to get cleaned out. Okay, then if I were you, I’d go into the court and I would say, at the time, I did not have money for legal representation. Would you please give a continuance? That’s a legal term. In other words, set it aside and reschedule this for a later date.
SPEAKER 02 :
Because does she have legal representation?
SPEAKER 03 :
No.
SPEAKER 02 :
Oh, she doesn’t either.
SPEAKER 04 :
Neither one of us do because we thought we could settle it out of court between us.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, is it settled to your satisfaction?
SPEAKER 04 :
All but the land deal.
SPEAKER 03 :
all that the land now how much land are we talking about uh… thirty-seven acres case where are you willing to kiss a good-bye and his letter and no i just want i want part she can have the house at all the faked came brown you need an attorney so that would be a word is continuance yeah you can ask for a continuance and and they will give it to you ron you’ll you’ll pay well so i and i think that i think uh… most magistrates and judges would give that to you but i think For her protection and for yours, and to do it right, you know, I’m sorry about the divorce, but these things happen. But you get down to the court, you’re arguing over the money issues, you know, the property, the house, the land.
SPEAKER 02 :
It’s always money.
SPEAKER 03 :
And then child support for the child. And we’ve had guys tell us they were given $750 a month for one child and they couldn’t afford it. And once you sign and agree to that, then the court can throw you in jail when you don’t pay and all kinds of stuff.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, they weren’t given. They had to get paid $750. That’s what I’m saying. Well, you said they were given.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, okay, but he agreed to that. So you need an attorney to represent you, and there are attorneys out there. If you’ve already agreed, basically, you can get it down on paper. Because what you sign, you’re going to have to live with.
SPEAKER 02 :
Now, is she involved with someone else?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, that’s the whole problem.
SPEAKER 02 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 04 :
She’s been living with somebody else.
SPEAKER 02 :
Okay, and she’s going to be with that someone else in court?
SPEAKER 04 :
I don’t know. Probably.
SPEAKER 02 :
That someone else has been giving her advice? I’m sure that someone else has been giving her advice.
SPEAKER 03 :
How old is your daughter? Five. Okay, so you’re going to be paying another 13 or 14 years child support. And not every court, you know, they have kind of a guideline, but not all of them do it.
SPEAKER 04 :
All right. There’s a guideline. I have it, you know, and everything.
SPEAKER 03 :
How much is it?
SPEAKER 04 :
The way I figure out is it takes, there’s only $4,000 difference what she makes from what I make.
SPEAKER 02 :
Okay. So how much are they going to require you to pay in child support?
SPEAKER 04 :
I’d say, well, I can come up with $250 a month.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay, well, it could be as high as four. I don’t want to sit here and sound like an attorney, but Ron, you really do need an attorney.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, and an attorney knows all the ins and outs, and he doesn’t hesitate in trying to do things for you, Ron.
SPEAKER 03 :
And you need to understand, too, when it comes to the child custody, sometimes they come up with joint custody.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, well, we agreed upon.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay, but do you know what that means?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
What does it mean?
SPEAKER 04 :
It means that I have a say-so in her education, health, religion, and other major decisions in her life.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay, but it could also mean that you have her three and a half days a week and your wife has her three and a half days. You need to get an attorney to explain all these options to you and what it really means.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, do you want her part of the week? Or are you willing to just let your wife have her?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, no, I’d want the little girl and everything, but, I mean, all my… I don’t have anything right now because she has all the furniture in the house and everything else. I’m just renting, you know.
SPEAKER 03 :
But wait a minute. Wait a minute. When you have this, why do you have to give up all the furniture?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, I mean, I don’t have to give it all up, you know.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, then don’t do it.
SPEAKER 02 :
Wow, Ron, it sounds like, you know, you might think you’re doing a great thing for your child and everything, but five years down the road, if you look back and she just stripped you of everything, brother, I would hate to see bitterness set in. I really would. I would try to get as much as I put into that. How long were you married?
SPEAKER 04 :
He was only married for two years, but we’ve been together for like six or seven.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay. Well, you need an attorney, my friend.
SPEAKER 04 :
Bye.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, finally, God, I just pray that you would descend on Ron today with unusual wisdom. And that there would be a continuance in the court. And that he would be able to have legal counsel since we’re into a legal situation here. And Lord, I believe you’re going to be glorified in this change. In Jesus’ name, amen. All right, Ron. God bless you, Ron. We’ll be praying for you, man.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay, thanks.
SPEAKER 03 :
God bless. Bye. Let’s go to Walter on line two. Walter.
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Hello, and I really feel Ron’s pain. I’m going through a similar problem right now. I’m going through a lot of pain. A lot of regrets, a lot of regret, a lot of remorse, because I let a wonderful woman get away. I just called her for her birthday to see if we can patch things up, and now she’s living with a guy.
SPEAKER 03 :
Now, just a minute, though, but you weren’t married.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, but she’s living with a guy, and we never lived together because we didn’t think that was right until we got married.
SPEAKER 02 :
So now you know her true colors, Walter.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, but Walter, let me say something to you. You don’t know the pain of divorce. You know the pain of a breakup from a girlfriend, but don’t relate that to a divorce because it’s not the same. Okay, I won’t. I’m sorry. Okay.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah. Well, do you want us to pray for you?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, if you would, please.
SPEAKER 02 :
Now, you don’t want to get back with her, do you?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes, I do.
SPEAKER 02 :
Okay. Do you know that if she has relationships with several men, that part of those men are almost tied to her in her body? She’s joined herself to different people, and she’s not congruent, Walter. And there are many other young women out there, or I don’t know how old she is. Forty-two. Okay, that love the Lord, and they aren’t willing to sleep with another guy.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, wait a minute. Let me ask you a specific question. How many guys has she been to bed with? Since when? Since she started having sex.
SPEAKER 05 :
I have no idea. Since we broke up, I think one.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay, but before that. Was she promiscuous?
SPEAKER 05 :
Compared to today’s society, no. In her earlier days, yes. Like a lot of baby boomers, when she was in her 20s, she may have been.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay, would you say that she’s been with a dozen guys? I would say so, yes. Okay, all right. Let’s just take that number, Walter. Now, what Barbara’s trying to tell you is she goes to bed with guy number one. Okay, he gives her substance and she gives him substance. And then number two. And so what you end up with, she’s got a part of 12 different guys. And I admire you for not going to bed with her. But.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, I’m sorry. I did. We just never lived together.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay, well, you’re number 13.
SPEAKER 02 :
Okay, number 13 then, Walter.
SPEAKER 03 :
See, what I’m saying is here, and this in our culture, people don’t understand. Then they get married and they wonder why there’s confusion. They wonder why down the road there’s problems. And it’s because she has and you have a part of someone else. And unless you understand that you need to send all that stuff back for, you know, however many gals you’ve been in bed with.
SPEAKER 05 :
I never kept count, but how do I get that back?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, just, you know, a dozen for you. Okay. All right. That’s probably a low number, right? Yes. Okay. Now, see, the reason I’m telling you this is we need to get down bedrock honest on this kind of thing. So if you and her go to the altar, what you’re bringing is parts of 12 or 13 other people.
SPEAKER 02 :
And you can read that in 1 Corinthians 6, 16, Walter. It’s in the Bible.
SPEAKER 03 :
Then you have a composite identity. And then people say, boy, I just don’t know why I’m depressed. Boy, I just don’t know why this marriage. I don’t know why she doesn’t trust me. I don’t know why she doesn’t totally give herself to me. Well, she can’t because she doesn’t have all of herself. Twelve other guys have a piece of her. Yes.
SPEAKER 05 :
And she did talk to her pastor about it. And her pastor asked her, well, if this present guy was in her life, would she go back to me? And she said, probably.
SPEAKER 02 :
Walter, do you realize this is sin? You two are living in sin. She is now living in sin and she’s asking her pastor for advice. I’ll tell you, brother, you need to get down on your knees and confess the sin. When Jesus talked to the woman at the well, he says, the one you are living with is not your husband. That means, woman, you’re in sin. And then he told her about her life. Walter, this is not what God expects a Christian to do, is go around and lay around and sleep with women until you find the right one. We don’t have to have sex, though, before we get married, Walter.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, I would say this, Walter, what you need to do here. Before you’re a fit man to marry and be in a relationship, you need to have someone pray and send all the stuff back for the women that you’ve been a part of. You need to also ask God to bring back your stuff. Now, we’re talking here about spiritual stuff. So that you’re a congruent person. You’ve got all of Walter back. And you sent all of Susie and Mary and Betty and whatever back to them so that you can say to your new wife to be, I am congruent here. I’ve got all my stuff here. And I am forgiven in God’s eyes. And I am cleansed.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 03 :
And God’s healed me on the inside. He set me free of an adulterous spirit. See, now, it sounds like I’m jumping on your head. I’m just telling you how to make it work. You still there? I’m still here. Okay. All right.
SPEAKER 02 :
And, you know, don’t believe that lie from the enemy that there’s only one good woman for you, Walter. I mean, if this woman, if you break up with her and she goes and jumps in bed with the very next guy she goes out with, do you want that kind of woman for the mother of your children? I mean, so many of us have compromised our standards to the point where we’re living like hell on this earth.
SPEAKER 03 :
You mentioned kids, Barbara. Do you have kids, Walter? No, I’ve never been married, and I don’t believe in having kids. Okay, well, but you kind of set yourself up for that. Let me ask you this. Is there any gal that you had sex with that had an abortion?
SPEAKER 05 :
For me, yes, but not because of me.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay. Well, see, that’s something else that needs to be dealt with. See, if there’s been abortions, they need to confess it for what it is. It was murder. And I say to these gals, look, honey, I’m not jumping on you here. I’m not trying to hurt you. I’m just saying if you’ve had an abortion, you need to confess it for what it was.
SPEAKER 05 :
In the interest of accuracy, I had nothing to do with that abortion. That was before I met her. Okay. Okay.
SPEAKER 02 :
Now, this is the woman that you left? No, this is 10 years ago. Okay, all right.
SPEAKER 03 :
Walter, I sense that you’re sincere and you’re trying to get there.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, I’ve realized my mistakes.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right? Well, hopefully we all have.
SPEAKER 05 :
And I think the pain I centered through is the pain I’m beginning to feel now.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. Okay. But see, part of this may be a grief package carried over from just a lifestyle. See, and God’s really trying to get down. And he’s trying to say, hey, let’s just take care. Are you born again, Walter?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes, I’ve been baptized yet, though.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay. How long have you been born again?
SPEAKER 05 :
About a year.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, we’ve talked to you several times, my friend. This is my first time calling. No, you’ve called the office.
SPEAKER 1 :
No.
SPEAKER 03 :
Walter, how did I know that this gal wasn’t your wife?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, given today’s morality, it’s easy to assume. I’ve never called. The first time I’ve called your station or your show.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, how about the office office?
SPEAKER 05 :
No, give me a number. I’d love to continue communication.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay, here you go, 303-689-0499. But see, I don’t call people back. I just pray for them. So let’s pray for you right now. Father God, I just pray right now that Walter will make sure that he’s confessed all the sin, that he sends back the parts and the pieces of the gals that he’s been involved with. Just by an act of his will, he says, I send this back. And that he will pray the prayer. And, Father, God invites you to bring back all of his substance so he can be congruent. And, Father, I thank you for that in the powerful name of Jesus. In the powerful name of Jesus. Now, I want you to pray this prayer after me. Will you? I will. Okay. Say, Lord Jesus. Lord Jesus. I pray and ask.
SPEAKER 05 :
I pray now.
SPEAKER 03 :
that you would take away all the sin, all the defilement. Forgive me for being promiscuous. I need your help. I believe, Jesus, you’re the Son of God. I ask you today to be my Lord and Savior for sure. Let me know that I am saved. Let me know that I am saved. Show me how to pray powerful prayers. Show me how to pray a powerful prayer. Show me how to read your word. Show me how to read your word. Thank you, Lord. Thank you, Lord. Amen.
SPEAKER 02 :
Amen. Amen.
SPEAKER 03 :
Walter, I had a man called a similar situation, and forgive me for getting you two guys mixed up, but I’ll tell you, I wish you the very best in Jesus.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yes, and you know, he has a woman out there, Walter. Believe that. He has a woman that is cleansed and virgin, and she hasn’t been around. And, Walter, I pray that for you, brother, that you get a woman that loves Jesus with all her heart, and she doesn’t have to be promiscuous.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, Walter, why don’t you leave your address and we’ll send you some good materials. Okay. Praise God. All right, brother. God bless.
SPEAKER 02 :
God bless you.
SPEAKER 03 :
Amen.
SPEAKER 02 :
Oh, do you see?
SPEAKER 03 :
It hurts, doesn’t it?
SPEAKER 02 :
It does. You know, Jesus died on the cross that we wouldn’t have to go through this. And the devil, you know, I read here in Ephesians, in the second chapter of Ephesians today, and I was reading that you formerly walked, you were dead in your trespasses and sins. Some of our friends, Darren, are dead in their trespasses and sins. They can’t even hear the voice of God anymore, and they wonder why. It’s because they’re all totally consumed by their sins. In which you formally walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air. Who’s ruling the air around us? It’s Satan. And he doesn’t, I’ll tell you what, we blame God too much. And Satan is out to kill and steal and destroy from you. And you need to have powerful prayers like you were praying for Walter, Darren. We need to get reading in the word, see what our authority is in Jesus Christ, and combat that devil.
SPEAKER 03 :
Also, that’s one of the things we’re going to be talking about tonight, and that’s how to come out of this thing and win. See, I’ve had sin in my life in the past. Barbara’s had sin in her life in the past. Everybody has. The Bible says if you say you haven’t sinned, you’re a liar. It says that in 1 John. That’s right. All right, so let’s get it on the basis here. We’ve all sinned, but where are we today?
SPEAKER 02 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 03 :
And you can confess your sins. And I’ll tell you one of the marvelous things God has given me. Darren, you know that I have forgiven you. I said that to some pastors one time. I said, the thing that makes you mad is I’m forgiven and I know it.
SPEAKER 02 :
And they wanted you to grovel, didn’t they?
SPEAKER 03 :
They wanted me to put my face in the mud and all that kind of stuff. But I want to tell you, folks, God is a loving God. The Bible says God is love. He has an answer for us. All of us have sinned. He has an answer, and it’s a good answer. And it’s not one where he’s going to hold a burning brand iron over your head for the rest of your life and then send you to a fiery hell. If you have confessed your sins, if you’ve asked Jesus to be Lord of your life, And if you send after you came to Jesus, first John one nine is there for you. It says, if you confess your sins, he is faithful and just. That means he’s fair to forgive your sin and to cleanse you from all unrighteousness. See, I believe there was a cleansing there with our last caller. I believe this gentleman was sensing a release that he hadn’t had before. He was tormented when he called. But God has good news for you. He put those sins on Jesus. Your forgiveness, your freedom is on will call. But you need to ask for it. You need to recognize what Jesus did. He died on the cross for you. When you do that, that’s called salvation, folks. It’s called freedom from torment. I tell you, I love that message of the New Testament.
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That’s right.
SPEAKER 03 :
Good news.
SPEAKER 01 :
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