Join Barbara Carmack and her guests for an uplifting episode where stories of faith and healing come to life. Hear from Teresa, a devoted mother, about the miraculous recovery of her 14-year-old son, Brandon, from a battle with asthma. Discover how a simple act of faith and prayer transformed their lives, demonstrating the profound impact of love and divine intervention. This episode delves deep into the emotional and spiritual journey of overcoming fear and finding peace and strength in faith.
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Thank you.
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On this Encore show, Darren and I are talking about the joy it is to be on KLTT and how much we love those of you who listen to the show. We get a call from Teresa who is praising God for the healing of her son Brandon, her 14-year-old son who had been suffering from the debilitating symptoms of asthma for over four years. When he attended a Darren in Denver meeting… Darren came against a spirit of fear in Brandon’s life. And from that moment on, Brandon has had no symptoms. Hallelujah. God wants you to live in peace and joy and health and not in fear. So cast all your care on him because he really does love and care about you. Now let’s join the program.
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They’re great people to work with. Oh, really appreciate them so much.
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We appreciate so much John Hayes, our engineer, and Mike Treem, who keeps us on the track.
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Thank you, Mike.
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First of all, we’ve got a telephone call coming in here from Teresa. Teresa, how are you today?
SPEAKER 06 :
I’m fine. How are you two?
SPEAKER 02 :
I appreciate the fact that we finally hooked up with you.
SPEAKER 06 :
Good to hear from you. Yeah, nice to hear you guys.
SPEAKER 02 :
How long have I been tormenting you to call me?
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, my gosh. Let’s see.
SPEAKER 05 :
It’s been at least a month as far as I can remember.
SPEAKER 02 :
At least a month.
SPEAKER 10 :
Boy, I don’t know. When he gets on a project, I mean, you might as well give in and do it and get it over with.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, we have to learn through the boss, too, to make sure I can take this time.
SPEAKER 02 :
Wonderful. Can you hear us okay? I sure can. Okay. I need you to make sure you speak right into your telephone there.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, okay. Is that better?
SPEAKER 02 :
That’s a lot better.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. Super.
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I’ll just bring our audience up to speed here. Teresa, are you office manager?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes, I am.
SPEAKER 02 :
Mother Superior?
SPEAKER 05 :
Pretty much. Okay.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yep. For Dr. J at Eastlake Veterinary Clinic. Well, Dr. J is a very, very special friend of ours, a wonderful vet, and walked in one day to the clinic there, and Teresa’s son was there. And I didn’t know who your boy was, but this very charming young man was there, and he said, I clean the kennels. But he said, I have asthma. I said, why do you have asthma? And so that kind of kicked off the conversation. But how long had your boy had asthma before we came in?
SPEAKER 07 :
I think it has been going off and on now for at least three to four years.
SPEAKER 02 :
Really?
SPEAKER 07 :
And it gets real bad for him during the springtime and the summer months.
SPEAKER 02 :
I see.
SPEAKER 07 :
Where he would get up in the morning and for a good three to four hours would just be miserable. He couldn’t breathe. If he, once we got him over that in the morning, if he went outside and tried to enjoy any activities that would happen to be around any kind of weeds or grass, he would come back in again and not be able to breathe and would have to go for the inhaler.
SPEAKER 02 :
Now, how old is your boy?
SPEAKER 07 :
He’s 14 now. He’s 14. Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, you know, the day we walked in, do you mind if I just go ahead and tell the story, Teresa?
SPEAKER 05 :
No, not at all.
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I met your son because everybody was in the back working with dogs and cats, and so your boy was out there in the waiting room, and he just said, you know, I’m here. I clean the kennels, and I work around the clinic here. And he said, I have asthma. So I got to talking to him and found out that he really needed some prayer for that. So I asked him. In fact, the Lord started telling me, Teresa… that he was afraid of something. I asked him, you know, what are you afraid of? What’s going on? He says, well, I don’t want to go to school. And I guess when I met him was the week that school started, wasn’t it?
SPEAKER 07 :
I think it was the week before, so he had a lot of anxiety.
SPEAKER 02 :
A lot of anxiety. And he was telling me the kids at school were beating up on him, tearing up his schoolwork and that kind of stuff, and he just didn’t want to go to school. So the Lord told me he was just in fear, and if we get rid of the fear, the asthma would leave. So we walked back by the kennels, and right in front of the cages there where the dogs are and the cats, prayed for your boy.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right.
SPEAKER 02 :
And why don’t you tell what happened after that?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, it was incredible. Darren and Barb did some special healing for my son that day.
SPEAKER 02 :
Has he ever been healed before?
SPEAKER 07 :
No, never in that way, ever. Darren and Barbara were generous enough and incredible people that they gave my son some scriptures to read over and some thoughts to keep in his head. And Brandon did those faithfully. Went home that day and did them faithfully. And then Darren and Barbara got him a little Bible and sent him some other tapes and cards in the mail. And I, incredibly enough, the very next morning when Brandon woke up, he came flying downstairs and had to stand in front of me and breathe. I love this. With the note that it was clear for the first time, and I don’t know how long, he could actually stand there in the morning and breathe and was not miserable. He could eat breakfast and taste it.
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Oh.
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And he has not had a relapse ever since then. Oh, God. He continues to have faith. go to school and endure. He is doing better there, too, because somebody’s given him that hand and that leg up. And we keep our face turned to Jesus Christ every day, and we thank you both very much for what you’ve done.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, I’ll tell you, you’ve got a special kid.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yes, praise God.
SPEAKER 02 :
He is a wonderful young man. Praise the Lord. When I talked to him, he was so receptive, and I said, you know, we’d like to pray for you and And I told him, you know, the problem and the cause of the asthma was fear, and it wasn’t the pollens and all that stuff. And I’ll tell you, when that spirit of fear took off that day, right there in front of the dog cages, I just could see your boy healed. And it’s so much fun when you find somebody that’s just a willing recipient to let Jesus do what he wants to do.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. Well, and it’s nice to have someone, you know, when you have gone through some of the things that Brennan and I have gone through in the previous, and he is my only son. Mm-hmm. When you have someone a lot of times from the outside come in and give you a different angle and bring in some new fresh light, it’s incredible what it can do.
SPEAKER 02 :
What have you gone through there, Mom?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, besides losing Brandon’s father, we lost his father when Brandon was a year and a half. We’ve struggled as a single parent. And then I was recently, two years ago, diagnosed with breast cancer and went through the surgeries and the chemotherapy. And Brandon and I kept the strongest of faith all the way through that, and that’s why I’m still here today. I knew that he was not going to let this devastate me or take my life away.
SPEAKER 02 :
You know, I know that too, Teresa.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 02 :
I know God is going to really do some redemption there for you. The devil tried to steal from you and from your boy too, but I believe God’s going to turn everything around there for you and bring marvelous healing to you physically as well as to your boy.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. I believe that. You know, we’re in a bliss state right now, which is marvelous, from all the things that we’ve gone through and we look at where we are now today. The wonderful people that I work with here at Eastlake, I could not have asked for a better employer and a better place to be where I can actually keep Christ in my life 24 hours a day now in a public and open way.
SPEAKER 02 :
You guys have Christian music playing there in the clinic, don’t you?
SPEAKER 07 :
24 hours a day. It does not go off.
SPEAKER 10 :
The dogs and cats are blessed, and the animals, yes.
SPEAKER 07 :
It keeps the dogs and the cats very calm. People can feel the spirit when they walk through these doors.
SPEAKER 02 :
You sure can. I would attest to that. You really can. I was in there this past week, and I feel that when I walk in the clinic. There’s just a sense of peace. and confidence and that things are under control. And it’s different than a lot of the vet places I’ve been in, you know, where the dogs were kind of going crazy. I’ve never seen that in your clinic there.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, I think that with the spirit and keeping Christ here as much as we do, it really helps out tremendously.
SPEAKER 02 :
Oh, I think that’s wonderful. You know, when we prayed away that spirit of fear from Brandon, you know, the Lord just moved in there when we just took a little bit of faith and went after that thing. You know, I guess I would just, while I’ve got you on the phone, encourage other parents to don’t buy all the way into this allergy thing, this asthma thing. You know, God can heal you.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right.
SPEAKER 02 :
And you saw that there as a mom, and it went so easy, and it’s permanent. Isn’t that good?
SPEAKER 06 :
It is.
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Wonderful. What other changes do you see in your boy’s attitude?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, I still think there’s a little bit of fear there factor with some of the kids, but I think as everyone knows, sometimes school can be pretty traumatic for anybody.
SPEAKER 09 :
It is.
SPEAKER 07 :
But Brandon knows now that with Jesus Christ on his side, he can walk through anything, and he can be untouched. You can touch him physically, but you can’t touch him spiritually.
SPEAKER 02 :
You know, does he ever have a day off during the week from school?
SPEAKER 07 :
Every now and then. For example, he’s homeless today, and I tried to get him awake, but he had a friend spend the night last night, bless their heart, and they stayed up late, and I can’t even get him to answer the phone this morning.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, I tell you, the next time he has a day off, I’d like for him to call me, and I’d like to just check up on him, see how he’s doing.
SPEAKER 07 :
I would love to. We’ll do that, Darren.
SPEAKER 02 :
Okay. Really, that would be great.
SPEAKER 07 :
We want to thank both of you very much for what you’ve done, and we enjoy listening to your show.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, thank you. Well, I’ll tell you, the one you need to give credit for is Jesus. He’s the one that did it.
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And I know you are. I know you are giving him credit.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, that’s great. Well, Teresa, I appreciate you calling in. Anything else you’d like to say to other parents with kids with problems?
SPEAKER 07 :
Just think if they turn to the right avenues and look up above. Ask the right questions. It’ll be answered.
SPEAKER 02 :
Amen. Amen. I appreciate that. Well, tell Dr. Tracy hi for us.
SPEAKER 07 :
I will do that.
SPEAKER 02 :
And we appreciate you guys there.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, and you guys have a marvelous weekend. We love you both.
SPEAKER 02 :
Thank you. We love you. And tell Brendan I believe in him, but I can help him with any, if he’s going through any fear there, I can help him, and I want to give him some new scriptures also. Okay.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, so far… The fear is gone except for Mom when his room’s not clean. That’s good. That’s good.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, knowing you, Teresa, I’d be afraid, too. Okay.
SPEAKER 07 :
God bless. I’m supposed to relay a message. The whole staff here sends their love to all of you down there. Thank you.
SPEAKER 02 :
We love you. Thank you. You’ve got a special group there.
SPEAKER 07 :
We do. All right.
SPEAKER 02 :
God bless. Thanks for calling in. Bye-bye.
SPEAKER 10 :
What a great report.
SPEAKER 02 :
Oh, yeah, it was a great report. Folks, I hope you’re listening there. You don’t have to put up with that asthma and allergy stuff. You let Jesus Christ take care of it. And, you know, if you find out the root cause, and many times, Barbara, that’s a root cause of fear or frustration or anger or unforgiveness or whatever, and you get rid of that, you’d just be amazed how those ear, nose, and throat problems go away. Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER 10 :
We’ve had a lot of those miracles happen in class even over the last couple of years. People that come and say they aren’t suffering from asthma like they did before and there is no reason except God has touched their lives.
SPEAKER 01 :
That’s right.
SPEAKER 10 :
They haven’t changed anything in their environment. They haven’t done anything like that, but it’s gone. So praise the Lord. We know that fear is behind a lot of stuff that’s going on that the devil wants to keep us from having victory.
SPEAKER 02 :
That’s his main deal, you know, to bring fear on us.
SPEAKER 10 :
Main door open, yes.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, is Francis on the line here? Yes, I am. You’re the guy that thought I was in sanctified witchcraft, huh?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 02 :
Okay. God forgive you.
SPEAKER 04 :
And, no, what turned me around is the Lord just basically had to collapse my circumstances and put me in the same room for about, oh, three to six months with nothing but a real powerful study Bible. And I study out of the International Inductive, by the way. And what I found out from this method of study that I was being taught from this book was to trace out some of the patterns of recurring symbols that kept showing up in various passages. various names of God, and about the time I got to Joshua 1.8 and 9, I found something really amazing, was that every time God shows up, He says, The first thing out of his mouth, basically, is do not be afraid.
SPEAKER 02 :
You mean when he manifested himself in the natural.
SPEAKER 04 :
Exactly. And then he’ll make a specific comment on the circumstances and how he will bring you through them.
SPEAKER 02 :
That’s a great observation. Great observation. You know, he also said that through the angels. When the angels appeared to Mary, they appeared to the shepherds and whatever, they said, don’t be afraid. You’re right on. It’s one of the first things that they said.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, and then I discovered that the whole book was structured as an elegant legal case that God keeps having to do even more than people were grumbling and complaining about. So that’s when I really started to get the revelation about, you know, you say when curses go, blessings flow. Right, that’s true. And I’ve actually been able to track the characteristics of what is a blessing and what is a curse and where are the thou shalt and where are the thou shalt not. And it’s funny because every time God tells you not to do something, you’re not doing a something, you’re doing a nothing. Or you’re taking away from something that God is trying to create.
SPEAKER 10 :
That’s good. Keep going. Or trying to teach you. Yes.
SPEAKER 04 :
I just wanted to let that sink in for a while. But the thing is, I think Mike Wernke said it best. He said, I used to think of the Bible as a book of do’s and don’ts, but what I’ve found out since I’ve been reading it, is that there’s a whole lot more do’s in the book than there are don’ts, and if you spend time doing the do’s, you ain’t going to have time to do the don’ts.
SPEAKER 02 :
That’s great. You know, Francis, if we get into relationship and we get into union with God, not just in contact with Him, and find out, in fact, I look at the Spirit like the air that goes around the world. when we’re in contact with the Spirit of God, we can’t measure it, we can’t quantify it, we can’t do all those things, and we realize that we’re breathing in air. And I’m not being psychic or new age when I say this, but just by example, here we have a small measure of air in our lungs, a greater measure of air around the outside of our bodies, and yet This air is in contact with all the air of the whole world. And without getting off over into the ecological things about whether it’s polluted or not, the Holy Spirit is so big and so great. And when we get in contact with him, in sense of union with him, then we’re on our way and the rules and regulations somehow fall away because there’s relationship.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, one of the first things, or one of the latest things that God has been dealing with me about is hyper-intellectualism, where I’m wanting to understand and figure out and quantify everything. And there got to be a point where I was praying into my journals, and I just basically heard in my spirit, stop going after it, because I’m not going to tell you. I just heard, I think it was Andrew Womack this morning say, saying, God is not going to tell you why. Why is not the right question to ask?
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, that wasn’t Andrew Womack. That was John Stocker.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, that’s right. Yeah, John Stocker.
SPEAKER 02 :
Praise God for John Stocker. He preached a great one this morning, didn’t he?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yes, sure did. Yes, he did.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, that’s a great one. You know, when you started saying that, I immediately thought about what Pastor John said there. about stop questioning the wise. You lay down the wise and let God be God.
SPEAKER 10 :
Unless you’re questioning within yourself your own motivations. Why are you doing this? But apart from that, you don’t ask God and continue to ask Him. You trust Him. You trust God.
SPEAKER 02 :
So you’re coming to some peace with your relationship with the Lord?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes, I am.
SPEAKER 02 :
I hear it in your voice.
SPEAKER 04 :
And it’s been quite a while since. I mean, I’ve literally been with the Lord for 20 years, and it’s only been about the last two that he’s been working this out. But that’s because I had so many curses over me to begin with that I was simply surrounded by them.
SPEAKER 02 :
Did we get that set of tapes to you on the curses?
SPEAKER 04 :
No, I don’t believe so, and I don’t have a power pack either.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, we’ll send them to you. How would that be?
SPEAKER 10 :
Sometimes I think everybody has a power pack, and so I don’t.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, we’ll send one to you. I sure will. Well, what can we pray for today, Francis? By the way, let’s clear up one thing. You don’t think we’re into sanctified witchcraft anymore, do you?
SPEAKER 04 :
No, I do not, sir.
SPEAKER 10 :
Besides, that was only you, Darren.
SPEAKER 02 :
You know, I talked to an engineer friend of mine. In fact, Dave Smith, he put our website together, and I talked to him on the phone yesterday, and he said, man, I never heard that term, sanctified witchcraft, before. I’m deceived, David.
SPEAKER 04 :
I had a close acquaintance of mine who was actually a practicing male witch. And we used to debate these things because the so-called great commandment of witchcraft is do as thou wilt, harm none. And I used to tell him, well, that makes me a better witch than you because I have a definition for harm none where you keep it out and… You know, out in the ozone somewhere.
SPEAKER 10 :
They actually say harm none?
SPEAKER 04 :
Supposedly. Or the white witches do, rather.
SPEAKER 10 :
The white witches, yes.
SPEAKER 02 :
Let me ask you this. How close were you to this person?
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, I was close for quite a while.
SPEAKER 02 :
Did you spend a lot of time with him?
SPEAKER 03 :
What?
SPEAKER 02 :
Did you spend a lot of time with him?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 02 :
Was he at your place?
SPEAKER 03 :
No.
SPEAKER 02 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, I was at his.
SPEAKER 02 :
Let me ask you this. Have you ever cleansed yourself from that contact? Yes, I have. Good. Wonderful. Okay, that’s important. You know, a lot of people don’t realize that even intellectually you can sort some thoughts and have some conversations, maybe debates and arguments, but you get next to that stuff, you really need to cleanse yourself so that defilement doesn’t hang on to you and bring destruction into your life. It’s like an infection, you know, a contagious infectious disease that goes around, and we need to have the blood of Jesus cleanse us. So I’m glad to hear that, Francis.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, I think if I may so affirm that.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, listen, Ken, we pray for you. We’ve got to get out of here and get some other things done here, but how would that be?
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay, let’s start with praying for the salvation of my family.
SPEAKER 02 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 04 :
There’s a lot of really critical stuff going on there.
SPEAKER 02 :
Have you got scripture to stand on there?
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh… Not specifically.
SPEAKER 02 :
Okay, I’m going to give you one, and then I’d like to pray a prayer the Lord gave me in the night. And I’m also going to take you to a scripture in John chapter 16. And this will be good for everybody if you’re struggling with… Well, let’s see here. I think it’s John 16. If you’re talking about… The curses, you’re talking about a family situation where you really want to see things change. I’ve switched Bibles here so I can’t find it. But it’s a story about Lazarus, and Jesus said, you’re going to see the glory of God. And what he was saying is, right after that he said, Father, I know you hear me when I pray. And then he prayed, and Lazarus came back to life. And the reason he did is the glory of God was manifested on the earth that day. The glory of God was evidenced on the earth.
SPEAKER 10 :
It’s John 11.
SPEAKER 02 :
John 11.
SPEAKER 10 :
39 and 40.
SPEAKER 02 :
I’ve got it right here in front of me.
SPEAKER 10 :
Thank you. God, the Holy Spirit did that for you.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, he did that. Okay. John 11, 39. Remove the stone. Martha, the sister of the deceased, said to him, Lord, by this time there will be a stench for he has been dead four days. Jesus said to her, Then he went on, But because of the people standing around, I said it. that they may believe that thou didst send me. Now, what he was saying is he’s deity here and he has the power over death. But he was also saying to the people, if you believe, you will see the glory of God. Well, the shepherds were met by the angels when they announced Jesus coming and the glory shone round about them. And I tell you, this study of the glory of God is so powerful with me today. And I want to pray by His glory and His authority and His anointing to break the yoke and the bondage over your relatives, to see them come to Jesus as it says in Acts 16.31, you and your household will be saved. How does that sound?
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay, that’s the one I was looking for, Acts 16.31. Yes, good. Good.
SPEAKER 02 :
Then I love, write this down, Francis, Deuteronomy 7, 9. And it says, Now, I didn’t quote that exactly, but I like the first part of that verse. Know this, that the Lord your God, he is God. And you could put an exclamation mark at the end of that because it’s so powerful. And then I’d also suggest you look up Exodus 15, 11. It talks about God being God, awesome in praises, working wonders. So I’m ready to pray if you are. Amen. Is your family here in Denver?
SPEAKER 04 :
No, they’re not.
SPEAKER 02 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 04 :
They’re scattered on both coasts. I got some in California and some in New York.
SPEAKER 02 :
Are you the only believer in Jesus?
SPEAKER 04 :
As far as I know, my grandparents are cultural Christians. My mother is a Unitarian who works for a Catholic church, so she figures it’s all showmanship.
SPEAKER 02 :
Okay. She thinks it’s all bells and whistles, huh?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, she’s an accompanist. Okay.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, let’s pray. Father God, we pray by the glory, the power of the glory, Lord God, that’s in our hearts and in our mouth because you’re in us. You reside in us. Our bodies are your temple. Now, Father, I just thank you in the powerful name of Jesus by the glory of God, by the anointing of God. That we see the bondages, the veils, the blind spots, the smoke screens being taken away. Yes, from Francis’ family. And Lord, we call this whole family into the gospel of Jesus Christ. We call them to become believers. And Lord, we come against even designs of witchcraft. We come against blasphemy. We come against mockery. We come against the curse of the generations. Yes, Lord, we come against unbelief, fear and doubt, anger. hatred, bitterness, jealousy, all of those things, Father God, that torment this family. And Father God, we pray and ask right now that the spirit of salvation, the spirit of grace will go to this family and will bring them, yes, Father God, by the power of your glory and your anointing to know Jesus and to repent and to recognize their sins and confess their sins. Lord, we thank you for that in your powerful name. In your powerful name, we call this family, this whole family, every generation of this family, to Jesus Christ. And, Lord, we pray right now, especially for Frances’ mother. Lord, may they be a spirit-filled Catholic, minister to her as she plays in that Catholic church. And I thank you that you can do that, Father. We’re asking you to do that. And we send your glory and your power to bring her to Jesus Christ, to take the veil off of her eyes, take away the critical spirit. In Jesus’ name, amen.
SPEAKER 03 :
Amen. Thank you, Jesus. Amen.
SPEAKER 02 :
Now, Francis, while I was praying that for your family, I was seeing that for a lot of families out there that are not yet born again.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 02 :
But I’ve got to tell you, they’re coming.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, my clan is absolutely huge. I mean, we have whole walls full of people I don’t even know. And it’s all at the family seat in California.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, let me tell you this. That’s not too big for God. Remember this. When he spoke to Abraham, he said, I’m going to give you descendants like the sands of the sea. Oh, yeah. All right. Well, keep us posted, brother. All right. You’ll be hearing from us.
SPEAKER 04 :
By the way, I’d like an update on Xavier when you can get it.
SPEAKER 02 :
Okay, we’ll do that. We’ll do that. It’s going to be good.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 02 :
We talked to his mom the other day. It’s going to be good. All right. Francis, Xavier, thanks for your call.
SPEAKER 01 :
Thank you. God bless. Bye.
SPEAKER 02 :
Bye-bye.
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