In this episode of the National Crawford Roundtable podcast the guys discuss the White House Correspondents’ Dinner shooting, and the hateful comments made by Jimmy Kimmel and the Trump Derangement Syndrome hatred in America. They take a look at the Royal Visit with King Charles and Queen Camilla. The guys also talk about the Southern Poverty Law Center scandal, and share their views on the latest happening with the Iran War.
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Back with another week of the National Crawford Roundtable podcast. Happy to have the guys all with us today. John Rush, Rush to Reason out of Denver, Colorado. Neil Boron, Neil Boron Live out of Buffalo, New York. Myself, Bob Duco, the Bob Duco Show out of Detroit. Guys, how are you? Good morning. Doing great. We’re back together. I love it. I know. It’s like we’re all together. So we got a lot of things to talk about. Obviously, the White House Correspondents Dinner shooting that happened Saturday night, the whole issue with Jimmy Kimmel. This renews a push for the ballroom for security reasons. Maybe we’ll get to some of the latest in Iran. But First, guys, have you paid any attention to the Royals? That’s right, it’s King Charles and Queen Camilla in the United States. We’re recording this as of Wednesday morning. When we record this, they’re still here. Yesterday, King Charles addressed a joint session of Congress, and it was very much like a State of the Union address. You know, they introduced him, His Majesty, and he comes walking down, and people applauding, applied applause, and Actually, guys, can I tell you, I watched the speech and here’s what was interesting to me. Maybe it’s just me, but I still can’t help but forget the fact that it was 250 years ago that they were the enemy. They were the redcoats. We broke away from them. We were, in essence, British traitors. We truly were. And we broke away from them. Now, I think it was the right thing to do. I think it was justified. But if we had lost that war, George Washington would have been hanged as a traitor. The history books would all talk about what a hero Benedict Arnold was, what a patriot he was, and what a traitor George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were. So it’s amazing now for me to see the King of England, a king of Great Britain, basically addressing Congress and talking about our shared friendship. But also, I thought it was interesting that he referenced 250 years ago. He’s like, 250 years ago, we had a different arrangement with each other. And he’s talking about how It was King George and then George Washington. He was like, you know, a tale of two Georges. And, you know, he got himself a laugh. But I don’t know. Maybe it’s just me. It’s 250 years later. We can all joke about it now. But it’s still strange to see the country that we broke away from and went to war with being the level of best friends. I mean, I don’t know. John, what’s your take on that?
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Well, the first question I have is did you have to see the televised No Kings rally outside? before all that happened?
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Did they actually have a no Kings? I know. Where’s the no Kings signs, right?
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I’m confused. Exactly.
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By the way, I don’t know if you know, you saw this or not, but Donald Trump, you know, he trolls the liberals. He does. He deliberately trolls them. He posted an image of him and King Charles standing there laughing with each other. And Trump put up the words, two Kings. Oh my word. Just to troll the liberals.
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I’m with you though, Bob. And I, maybe I’m, Maybe I need checked. I don’t know. But I have no love for England whatsoever. I have no desire to actually go to Europe and tour around. I have an utter disdain. I don’t know why. I think because of the fact that we left all of that, like you said, 250 years ago. And I know a lot of people look at Europe and England and all of that different than probably I do. But I still look at them as the country we left on purpose. And had we not, it would be a whole different world today.
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Well, it would be, but I don’t know, Neil. 250 years later, it’s like I’m willing to put them in a different light. To me, actually, Neil, the only negative I suppose I see about England is that they are even more post-Christian than we are in this country, even though King Charles referenced Christianity, which is fine.
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But let me throw one more thing in, Bob, that you can ask Neil. Yeah. They’re also always trying to throw us under the bus. I think that’s, for me, why I don’t like them. It’s a constant battle with them.
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That is a very fair point because the truth is the United Kingdom should be shoulder to shoulder with us in Iran, and instead we’re having to drag them kicking and screaming to participate in any little way that they can. So that is a fair point. Yes, they do make my eye twitch. I’m just talking about in the historic sense of it’s fascinating for me to see our old enemy – you know, now, but they’re not really acting like good friends. But I don’t know, Neil, what’s your take on this whole thing?
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As a Buffalo Bills fan, let me just say that there’s some lingering animosity towards all four of the teams that beat us in the Super Bowl. Twice it was the Dallas Cowboys. And I’m just saying, I really think that there’s a lingering somehow weird animosity towards Great Britain and uh you know just because or that they have towards us because of you know defeating them in the revolutionary war and setting up our own deal here like we we made it you know and we didn’t need them anymore and i think that there’s some kind of weird lingering animosity in their minds can’t prove that i just you know i’ve had some experience with people from england and pick up little bits and pieces here and there, but everything that happened, I think it was extraordinary, you know? I think it was just amazing. I don’t get the fascination with the royals. I don’t. And isn’t this the epitome of elitism, class… you know, classism or, you know, the whole sectarian idea of upper class, lower class like this is beyond upper class. Like, I don’t get the whole royal blood thing and why this makes why they’re any different. Jesus died for them like he died for each one of us because the royals were sinners just like we were. And I don’t I don’t support that idea. If you’re from England, I’m not trying to offend you. I’m just saying it’s not something that I’m comfortable with. and i just i think the the two kings thing was kind of funny you know donald trump isn’t always he doesn’t always land his humor like uh you know olympian needs to land off the uneven parallel bars he doesn’t always land his jokes but the two kings thing is hilarious and i i think it raises A really good question that John alluded to, you know, where were the no kings protesters when we had a king addressing members of Congress? Yeah.
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Now, you know, that’s true. And I totally get what you’re saying about the whole idea of a monarchy. Well, actually, the king… of England today is way, way different than the king used to be because the king has no power. There’s nothing more than a pomp and circumstance position. I mean, it really is. It’s a symbolic position. Now, he has no authority. It’s the prime minister that actually has the authority, the military authority, the governing authority. This is a figurehead, basically, that they have for tradition’s sake used. kept somebody to be the king to show up at events and everybody say, you know, God save the king. But other than that, I do have to say there’s one thing that I noticed as well, and here’s where I’m going to turn into a right-wing partisan hack, but bear with me, guys. During King Charles’ speech to Congress yesterday, you know what I noticed? I noticed that when he made reference to Christianity, He was like, you know, both all nations have, you know, woven into it Christianity, you know, in the fabric of what we do. It was the Republican side that started the applause. OK, they started the applause and then the Democrats kind of like, OK, yeah, we have to applaud, too. But the Republicans clearly started that. However, just a few seconds later, when he made a reference to interfaith and he goes, you know, throughout my career, I’ve worked with many, you know, interfaith people. As soon as he said the word interfaith, you heard half of the room start applauding. And King Charles stopped and he looked over at the Democrats because he seemed a little bit surprised that they just started clapping at the idea of interfaith. And so to me, it’s very telling that Christianity is referenced and it’s the Republicans who start clapping. religions other than Christianity is referenced, and it’s the Democrats that start clapping. And so when I say things like, why in the world are there Christians out there still supporting the Democrat Party? To me, it’s just stuff like this. It’s woven into the flavor of it, but I don’t know. It’s just me, I suppose. Let’s do this because we do want to talk about the White House correspondent shooting and a lot of things connected to that. Before we do, though, we appreciate you folks supporting our sponsors. We very much do. Preborn and SunPowerLED. And by the way, Neil, SunPowerLED really is a tremendous organization. This photobiomodulation helps a lot of people get out of pain in a completely natural way with no drugs, no shots, no side effects, no surgery, no none of that.
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Yeah, and sadly, people take his courage and use it as an opportunity to spin conspiracy theories. Well, of course, he wasn’t concerned because he was never the target or this was all staged. It’s designed to drum up sympathy for the president, especially because his poll numbers are kind of low right now because of Iran. No, I think he’s incredibly courageous in that sense and maintains some degree of humor in the midst of it. I mean, you remember the famous thing about Reagan after he got shot outside that same hotel? He gets to, you know, and they said, Mr. President, you know, how are you or whatever? His wife gets to him. Are you OK? And he says, sorry, honey, I forgot to talk. And then he asked the surgeons whether they were Republicans or Democrats.
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You know what he said? His words, I remember his words were, as they were putting the anesthesia, the cup over his face, that according to the head surgeon in the room, he said Reagan looked around and said, I sure hope you’re all Republicans. And by the way, can I just say as a side note, The head doctor, the one in charge, he said to him, Mr. President, today we’re all Republicans. And that guy was a Democrat. Wow. I watched an interview with him. He’s like, yeah, I was a Democrat. I didn’t vote for him. But I said, Mr. President, today we’re all Republicans. Boy, I miss that class. I do. I do. Yeah, same thing. Yeah. John, what’s your take from Saturday? Just whatever direction you want to go.
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Well, when it got the news, of course, and when you follow Twitter and things like that, you get things even before the rest of the press actually does anything. And then, of course, Donald Trump addressed really the nation, I guess you could say. And I at first thought it’s like, will the left not stop? And will they even call out their own? And of course, they won’t. They didn’t. I talked about that on Monday. They’re cowards. They won’t even call their side out for the things that it does. We do all the time, by the way, including Donald Trump. He does something we don’t like. The three of us collectively will call out the things that we don’t agree with it. that he does they will never do that on their side in fact their first response was you know this was just a setup by the by the right this just makes donald trump look better because his poll numbers are so bad i mean bob have you ever seen a time where a particular party will not even call out the evil their side does
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You know, so one of the things I plan on playing on my show today is a clip from the 1981 Academy Awards because Johnny Carson hosted the 1981 Academy Awards. They were scheduled on the very day that Reagan was shot. They were scheduled on the very day. And the Academy Awards all decided it would be inappropriate – to have a celebration on the day that he was shot. So they postponed it until the next day, just out of respect for Reagan. And then Johnny Carson, the MC, he comes out there and the very first thing he does is he talks about how, what a horrific day this was yesterday and how we just felt that it was proper and out of respect to not have a day of celebration on the day that the president of the United States was shot. And then Carson said, but you know what? Thankfully, the president is okay. He’s fine. He’s recovering. And you know what? The entire room of mostly Democrats, okay, in Hollywood applauded. gave a sustained applause that, yes, Reagan is good. He’s doing well. And then Carson even talked about Reagan’s humor and said, you know, President Reagan, when he wasn’t able to talk when he was going under, said he wrote on a piece of paper, all things considered, I’d rather be in Philadelphia. And everybody cracked up laughing in there because Johnny Carson was talking about the good humor of the president. And then they played a clip of President Reagan that he videotaped before he was shot. But greeting the the Academy Awards and saying, you know, I hope you have a great night tonight. And, you know, movies are so important. And he said and there’s there’s even poked fun at himself. for being in some of the B movies that he was in. He goes, yeah, there’s even some movies that, well, that I’ve been trapped in, you know, and everybody cracked up laughing in there. And I’m like, here’s a Republican and a room full of Democrats and Hollywood, and they’re politically opponents with each other. Johnny Carson was a Democrat. Everybody knows that. But you know what? They all came together and they complimented each other and they said, hey, can we just be friends and shake hands and put it all behind us? And Donald Trump attempted to do that when he came out to the press conference still wearing his tuxedo. And he said, you know what was actually beautiful about tonight? I got to see all of us coming together in unity. We were all together. We were, you know, whatever. He tried. He extended an olive branch, and it took no time at all for the liberal left to just smack the olive branch away and start the hate speech again. To me, the hatred, it just spews from the left, guys. It really does.
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You know, as long as we’re reminiscing, I remember where I was that day. A lot of, you know, like a lot of things. You remember where you were when something happened. And I was at football practice. I was in college and we had just finished. And guys were, you know, headed to team meetings and other things. But everybody was together in the locker room. And obviously we were from different backgrounds. There were whites there. There were blacks there. conservatives and liberals and the whole deal. I mean, we’re at Boston University, it’s a pretty liberal institution. But there was a common sort of solemnness in the room and even prayer for the president like it was the president was shot it meant something today there’s jokes made about you know attempts on trump’s life people saying maybe like remember in uh you know in uh the situation in butler pa you know maybe this kid should take shooting lessons next time you know target practice so he’s more accurate and it’s horrendous where have we come come from and where we are in wisconsin that’s offering free beer for the day he dies yeah
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You guys see that one?
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Why do we tolerate this?
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Great question. And why would anybody patronize a place like that?
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By the way, liberal Democrats do. I hate to not all of them, not all of them. But you know what? When these Democrats say the things that they do, whether it’s Hakeem Jeffries, whether it’s Jimmy Kimmel, you know what they get? They get standing ovations. They get applause and standing ovations. They don’t get wincing. They don’t get pressure from their own side to apologize and knock that off. So it’s not just about the occasional public figure or the occasional restaurant or bar owner doing something like this. It’s about the rank and file Democrats that aren’t offended by it. And to me, that’s what’s even most troubling.
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Can’t disagree.
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What about the Jimmy Kimmel thing here? What a putz that guy is. Oh, my goodness. Okay. Now, granted, he did make that joke two days before the shooting. But in all fairness, he made that joke after two assassination attempts on Donald Trump, including one of them where he got hit with blood coming down his face. Okay. So knowing that, knowing that. He makes a joke about how Melania Trump is a glowing expectant widow because she’s glowing out of the hope and anticipation that her husband dies. And even his attempted CYA of that where he said, oh, I wasn’t talking about him getting assassinated. I was just talking about because he’s older than she is. Number one, baloney. But number two, even if that was the case, So she would be glowing about him dying of cancer or some other reason. That is just sick. It’s evil. It’s hateful. And he got a long, sustained standing ovation from his studio audience the next day after Melania Trump criticized him for that. And he doubled down. He didn’t even apologize.
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So…
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I was just going to say quickly that it’s disturbing that these kind of things put Jimmy Kimmel back in the limelight again. I don’t even think the guy’s funny. I have no desire to listen to him as a comedian. He’s not funny. But on top of that, this sort of puts him back in the liberal progressive limelight again and he gets to be a hero again for this. Yeah. You know, people should be calling for his head on a platter. Instead, they hail him as a hero.
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Which says everything you need to know about liberals in America today. It really does. They should be pressuring him to apologize.
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Continuing the second half of the National Crawford Roundtable podcast with all of the guys. Neil Boron, Neil Boron, live out of Buffalo, New York. John Rush, Rush to Reason out of Denver, Colorado. Myself, Bob Duco, the Bob Duco Show out of Detroit. I’m talking about the White House correspondent shooting and Jimmy Kimmel’s hate speech, but not just him, but so many others. And John, I’d love to get your take on this. Not just people like Kimmel himself. He’s a vile guy. Yeah, I think he should be fired, okay? But honestly, what’s more troubling to me is after it went viral where he made that joke and then Melania Trump was like, you know, this isn’t funny to me. It’s my husband dying. This isn’t funny to me. The very next night when Jimmy Kimmel comes out and defiantly says, Says, you know, I’m not changing anything, you know, doubling down and continues mocking and making fun of Donald and Melania Trump. He gets long sustained, cheering, standing ovations from that entire room. It’s like you would think. Just basic, decent humanity. You might get a smattering of people cheering and applauding and whistling, but everybody else in awkward silence. No, the entire studio audience. It’s like, how full of hate do you have to be to be a member of today’s liberal progressive part of America, John?
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They are. I talked about this earlier in the week. I mean, and guys, we’ve talked about this some, maybe… Maybe not enough. Maybe we need to keep hammering this because, A, I struggle with any type of a Christian that even claims to be that would be on the Democrat side. That’s a whole podcast in and of itself because I really struggle with those individuals because really what we’re talking about, Bob, is good versus evil. And I’m not saying that everybody on the conservative side is good. Believe me, folks, people have all sorts of things going on, sin abounds. I’m not saying that our side is perfect by any means, but… In general, the things that we support, the things that we do, how we look at life, how we look at each other, how we look at life itself and the value of life, it is literally good versus evil. And, Bob, you’re proving that the other side is evil just by the applause itself for Jimmy Kimmel.
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Yeah. And that to me is what’s really telling, because when people say these kind of horrific things that they do, they don’t they don’t suffer politically for this. Their careers don’t suffer. And, Neil, I guess that’s what’s troubling for me is that we don’t see any kind of repercussion from from the liberal left in this country. They don’t put the pressure on there because I got to tell you, and we all know this, guys, if if Joe Biden. had survived not one, not two, but three assassination attempts, and there was some prominent conservative going on TV and making jokes about that, I guarantee you all three of us would be condemning that and saying there’s no excuse for that whatsoever. And if they had a room full of conservatives stand up and cheer and applaud… We would be saying shame on them. Problem is, you’d get the occasional right wing nut kneel who might say, oh, three cheers, you know, on their social media blog. But you wouldn’t get a room full of conservatives responding that way. You just wouldn’t, because by and large, we are not that way. We don’t respond that way like the left does.
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Yeah, well, I mean, truth be known, we’re far from perfect, so I know you’re not trying to say that, but basic human decency still matters, and it should still matter, and I don’t know why people can be so dismissive of these kind of things, and I think it speaks to the sickness of the human heart, really. I mean, these aren’t policy things anymore. We’re literally talking about good versus evil. In other words, Is your Lord and Master Jesus Christ, and are you concerned about the things of God? If so, God’s going to rebuke you when you’re inappropriately talking about someone else or whatever. I mean, we can’t get away with it for long because of the presence of the Holy Spirit. But when you’re operating under the power of the enemy, and by the way, Read Romans 5.10 if you don’t believe me, because Jesus died while we were sinners. That’s verse 8. Verse 10 says he died for us while we were enemies of God. So somebody who isn’t truly submitted to the power of God is an enemy of God. And that means they’re getting their marching orders from Satan himself, literally. And we should be praying that God would change their hearts. And I don’t know that it ever will. This is not like, well, let’s all agree to disagree and we’ll just get along better. I really think it has to be from the inside out, which is why… We should continue praying, continue doing what we can to demonstrate the kind of love that has transformed our hearts and that is molding us and shaping us into being no longer sinners separated from God, but followers of the king. And I don’t want to over spiritualize. I’m just saying I really believe this is like a heart level spiritual thing. This isn’t just politics.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. So true. Well, and John, we got to remember, too, when it comes to the rhetoric, whenever I say things like this, you know, sometimes liberals will respond by going, oh, so the media or whatever, Democrats are not allowed to criticize Donald Trump. It’s like, no, we don’t mind that at all. There is nothing wrong with criticizing the president. But there is a difference between criticizing a president and day after day after day, comparing him to Hitler, calling him names like Nazi, fascist, threat to democracy. He’s killing people. He’s a rapist, pedophile, traitor. I mean, you read the manifesto from that shooter, and he didn’t say anything differently than pundits on CNN and MSNBC say on a regular basis. So it’s like when you go to that extreme, of course you’re going to encourage some unhinged people out there to feel like they’re doing humanity a favor by taking out somebody who’s such a dangerous Nazi Hitler. And that to me is the difference. It’s not criticizing the president. It’s criticizing him to this level.
SPEAKER 01 :
Correct. Yeah, well, and it’s not even – Bob, I don’t know that I would even call it criticism. It’s actual hatred. It’s Trump derangement syndrome. It’s not on the same level as even what – again, the three of us, we will criticize the president. We rightfully do. I mean the meme that came out not long ago where he depicted himself as Christ. We talked about that. We called him out for that. We will continue to do things along those lines.
SPEAKER 03 :
And he took it down.
SPEAKER 01 :
And we criticize in a way that is not the way they do. Again, their criticism is just downright hatred, which to the point where they want the man dead. We never criticize anybody even on the other side to that point, Bob.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. Exactly. Well, look, you got Nora O’Donnell on 60 Minutes interviewing President Trump. By the way, here’s Trump willing to sit down with the enemy 60 minutes. OK, she is just as liberal as Sean Hannity is conservative. Think there’s any chance Barack Obama or Joe Biden would have sat down for a 40 minute interview with Sean Hannity? Nope. OK, so Trump is willing to meet with him. He’ll go into the lion’s den. And what does she do? She decides she’s going to read from that guy’s manifesto. And what parts does she choose to read? She chooses to read the parts where he calls her a rapist. He calls him a rapist, a pedophile, and a traitor. Number one, you give credibility to those unhinged comments. And Trump, to his credit, he kept his cool. He didn’t yell. He didn’t walk off the stage. He just looked at her and calmly said, you know something, I knew you were going to read that, and shame on you. All right, you’re a disgrace. for reading that. It’s disgraceful you would read that on 60 Minutes. I’m none of those things. I’m not a pedophile. I’m not a rapist. I didn’t do any of that stuff. But this is 60 Minutes. This is CBS’s 60 Minutes. This is who they are. Actually, Neil, do you think there’s any chance if Nora O’Donnell was interviewing Barack Obama That she would have said something like, you know, you got people saying that you’re actually gay and that Michelle is actually a man and that you smoke cocaine a lot. I think there’s any chance, no chance in the world you would take some incendiary stuff like that, this radical fringe debunked stuff and throw that in his face. But that’s who they do with Donald Trump.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, yeah, but what they’re doing is following a narrative. And so they’re walking in lockstep with liberals and progressives across the country. They’re not an unbiased media that’s actually reporting the truth or doing anything to try to present both sides of an issue without bias. They absolutely are positioning stories in a way that gives upper hand to one side or the other. And when you get Donald Trump on the air, you’re going to try to crucify him on live television. or maybe it was recorded for 60 minutes but you get the point and you know any anyone else then you’re there to herald their achievements and why because donald trump is absolutely 100 opposed to the narrative that you stand for and so therefore donald trump in their mind is the enemy he’s not just president of the united states with some bad policies he’s the enemy and the enemy must be done away with and the liberal media we know how hard they’ve tried Since day one, since he defeated Hillary Clinton in 2016, they’ve been after him. And they haven’t stopped. It’s been relentless. And I think by God’s grace, and I’m not saying he hasn’t made mistakes. Good Lord, there’s some things that made my skin crawl. But I think by God’s grace alone, he’s still shucking and jiving and going on 60 Minutes and looking the enemy in the face and telling the truth boldly. for the purpose of representing truth in the midst of a world filled with lies and hatred.
SPEAKER 03 :
Absolutely. So true. We’ve got a lot more to talk about, including the new push for the ballroom as a result of this. But first, we do want to remind you folks that this podcast is sponsored. We appreciate our sponsors, SunPowerLED and Preborn. We appreciate you folks supporting them. And if you haven’t given a Preborn in a while, maybe consider doing it again. Remember, you’re activating ultrasound machines to save babies’ lives in pro-life centers. That’s what you do when you give to pre-born. It takes money to operate these ultrasound machines. $28 is the average ultrasound expense to help stop one abortion, to help save one baby’s life, to help change one mom’s mind. All right, so how many babies’ lives will you save? Take $28 times fill in the blank. Pray about a number right now. Whatever that number is. Is it 10 babies? Is it 100 babies? Yeah, I don’t know what you can afford, okay? But if you haven’t given in a while, give again. And here’s how you give to Preborn. Go to CrawfordMediaGroup.net, click on Preborn, give right there. Or you can give over the phone, 833-850-BABY. They answer 24-7. So call right now, 833-850-BABY. Give right over the phone. And what’s great about it is 100% of what you give goes to fund ultrasounds. Nothing for overhead. That’s all covered by private donors. So, again, you can go online, CrawfordMediaGroup.net, click on Preborn, give right there. And while you’re at CrawfordMediaGroup.net, Neil, we’d love for him to check out SunPowerLED.
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SPEAKER 03 :
You know, I think about this shooting and the renewed push that this has been able to create for the ballroom. And, you know, my whole thing for the ballroom and the reason that I’ve supported it has been for the sake of just kind of embarrassment, if you will, that, you know, other nations, they have their own ballrooms that are secured and the dignitaries and state dinners are held there. But here in this country, we either have to rent out somebody else’s ballroom like the Hilton ballroom, or we have to put tents out on the grass at the White House, which I think is just stupid. So I think what Trump’s doing is absolutely right. And I just want to remind everybody of a simple fact before we get to the security of this. Donald Trump is not messing with the original White House. The original White House didn’t have an East Wing. It didn’t have a West Wing. What happened was for all of the latter part of the 1700s and all of the 1800s, you had the main White House. It was in 1902 that Teddy Roosevelt… went ahead and busted a hole in the east side of the White House and created an east wing on the White House. Then it was in 1909, if I remember right, that Taft bought busted that down and enlarged the east wing to something bigger, okay? Then you had, I can’t remember who it was, but somebody, it might have been Teddy Roosevelt again, but I forgot, but somebody busted down the west side and then added in a west wing, and then FDR brought in bulldozers and reconstructed the West Wing to make it bigger, and then a few years later brought in bulldozers, reconstructed the East Wing to make it bigger. This has been done by various presidents over the years, and now Donald Trump has brought in bulldozers to tear down and reconstruct the East Wing addition to the White House.
SPEAKER 01 :
And this one’s 50 years overdue, Bob.
SPEAKER 03 :
Exactly. It really is. But so for me, if there were zero security concerns, this makes perfect sense. But after Saturday night, oh, my goodness. John, to think about this, you got the Hilton Hotel. Do you know that Hilton Hotel has a thousand rooms? A thousand rooms. So you have thousands of guests that are staying there. That’s right. nothing to do with the ballroom. What’s Secret Service going to do? Check the bags of all thousands of guests in there, okay? So they did their job, but it’s still an unsecured location.
SPEAKER 01 :
And no matter how hard you try to secure it, it’s still not going to be as secure as doing in Donald Trump’s right.
SPEAKER 03 :
And this is where Reagan was shot, too.
SPEAKER 01 :
That’s right. You’re never going to have it as secure as the White House, period.
SPEAKER 03 :
I know. So to me, I think the security aspect of this is even stronger.
SPEAKER 01 :
And really quick, Bob, let’s not forget because all the naysayers out there, let’s not forget that the majority of, I get it, there’s probably going to be some infrastructure things and so on that we as taxpayers pay for, the bunkers and so on. I don’t know exactly how all that’s working, but they’re expanding the underground end of things at the White House, which needs done as well. That’s probably long overdue. But by and large, the expense has already been paid for by what Trump raised on his own. It’s not costing you and I and Neil any money.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah. Right. You know, by the way, I looked it up. Teddy Roosevelt added the West Wing. Franklin Roosevelt expanded the West Wing in the 1930s. So, you know, but anyway, people have built bowling alleys at the White House and they’ve done manicuring and long care things on the outside of the White House and built. Didn’t somebody built a basketball court and then somebody took it was Barack Obama that built a basketball court.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
Brought in bulldozers to build a basketball court.
SPEAKER 1 :
Right.
SPEAKER 02 :
So, I mean, amendments, changes have occurred over the years, and this one would be highly functional. And I think when you have to resort to having state dignitaries, you know, people, leaders of other nations and stuff, eating at picnic tables on the White House lawn under a tent during a rainstorm in Washington, and they can get pretty severe. I lived there for two years. You know, it’s kind of ridiculous. So anyway, that whole argument about we… Trump doesn’t need this. It’s all for vanity’s sake. I think it’s a very practical move, and it makes perfect sense. I don’t think that they would be saying this if this was Joe Biden. I just think it’s a Trump thing. We hate Donald Trump. We’re against everything Donald Trump does. Therefore, we’re against adding on to this east wing of the White House. I don’t know. In the end, I think we need to be supportive of this. And in the end, I think it’ll get done. I pray it’s with private funds. I would love to see it completely done with private funds. I don’t know that that’s actually going to, I know, I know it may change. And especially because as they kind of justify this by saying it’s for security reasons, but there really actually is a practical reason. I was reading about this today. know if uh if some kind of if somebody shoots a drone at the white house and it hits the roof of one of these places like the east wing that the that there’s room there’s an explosion zone i forget what they call it um i think they call it the attic attic the attic effect or something uh that the much of the blast would get uh you know diffused in the distance between a high ceiling and the floor And if there’s protective zones underneath, like a bunker for the president or others to hide out in with secure communication devices and stuff, that would be further protected below the floor. So I don’t know. I think practically speaking, there needs to be.
SPEAKER 01 :
I just looked up, too. It’s going to be probably an overall project of about $400 million. Trump’s raised $300 million of the $400 million. So, okay, at the end of the day, even if, even, and I’m not sure whether it will be this or not like you guys are saying, but even if it costs us as taxpayers $100 million, guys, We have wasted more of that on the Learing Center than we have anything else. At the end of the day, does it really matter?
SPEAKER 02 :
Guys, what do you say, me, you, and John, Bob, what do you say we get together? We just give them the $100 million. What do you think? Yeah, let’s do that. Let’s do that. Well, if we had a Learing Center, we could do that. No.
SPEAKER 03 :
I mean, let’s do this proportionally as far as income goes. So John has to kick up $95 million, okay? And then, you know, you and me, Neil, we’ll scrape together the other five.
SPEAKER 01 :
Okay. Deal.
SPEAKER 03 :
Just to make it fair. All right. You guys think the ballroom is going to get built? See, here’s my best guess. Now, I think they’re probably going to take this to Congress and just let Congress go ahead and vote on it and vote appropriation funding for it. And then the donors, which I agree with you, Neil. That would be a shame because I would actually – I don’t think Trump wants that to happen. I think Trump wants it to be privately funded so that he can go down in history as having basically paid for, helped pay for this gift for future presidents. It just proves the point that the Trump derangement syndrome thing here, no matter what Donald Trump does, they will find some way to criticize it. He’s probably not even going to be able to use this thing for himself. OK, he might be able to possibly if they get it done by time he leaves office. But for the most part, as soon as this thing is done, if a Democrat gets in the White House, he won’t even be invited in. to step into the very ballroom that he helped buy. That’s right. That’s what blows my mind. That’s how hateful the left is, it seems.
SPEAKER 02 :
You know, by the way, $400 million to us is a ton of money, right? I mean, it’s a lot of money. Or if you’re going to try to build a new church building and they say that the land is so expensive that the whole project would be $400 million, you wouldn’t be able to build a church there. That’s an excessive amount of money. But it isn’t for government, and I’m not saying that that wouldn’t cost us taxpayers anything. lots of money. I would be against the spending of $400 million frivolously. But think about how many things have happened where maybe somebody said, hey, let’s build a playground for inner city children from other countries whose parents aren’t actually citizens. But first, let’s do a feasibility study and make sure it’s not going to take out the life of any spotted owl or anything. And that feasibility study is going to be just about $400 million. My point is, unbelievable amounts of money go to unbelievably ridiculous things.
SPEAKER 01 :
You spent $188 billion on Ukraine. I don’t think $100 million is a big deal.
SPEAKER 02 :
I know. It’s peanuts compared to that amount you just described.
SPEAKER 01 :
I’m sorry to say, guys, but really, I mean, put this thing in relation to the things we spent money on, which I’m not for spending $188 billion on Ukraine. I never have been. I’ve said that many, many times. But At the end of the day, to strengthen the White House and future presidencies and and this business of us spending money other places and giving the Hilton Hotel money to host things and so on. I mean, that has got to be the dumbest thing we could ever do as a country. Amen.
SPEAKER 03 :
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SPEAKER 03 :
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SPEAKER 01 :
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I know. But, you know, you tighten it up enough and you get some decent – Yeah, what can you say? And let’s talk about the latest in the Iraq war as we kind of wind down.
SPEAKER 01 :
Hey, really quick, Bob, not to change the subject, but just throw this in there, just to prove what we’ve been talking about all day, and I know we didn’t get to it yet, but the Southern Poverty Law Center and what was found there and what they’re actually doing, does that not prove our point throughout the day of what we’ve been talking about?
SPEAKER 03 :
Actually, you know what, John? I’m glad that you brought that up because that is something that really – I hammered that large on my show. I’m sure that you did too. Okay. Southern Poverty Law Center is not some obscure organization. They are who the mainstream media has touted and given credibility to as the main number one trusted source for monitoring hate groups in America. Right. Even though they’re a left-wing hack group, but the media has given them credibility. And to find out that if the allegations are true in this grand jury indictment, to find out that they have actually been taking donors’ money, millions of dollars of donors’ money, and And funneling that illegally, by the way, through shell bank accounts, funneling that to KKK-affiliated hate groups and actual racist groups to try to prop them up to, in essence, create a straw man that they could then shoot down. So to me, John, I look at this and it’s like, is racism gone in America? No, nobody’s saying that it’s gone. However, it is so dying on the vine that the Southern Poverty Law Center has to create and inflate racist groups out there and fund racist groups to get them big enough so that they now have a target that they can shoot for. Where in the world is the outrage from the liberal left? They should be furious that donors’ money has gone to actually prop up racist groups.
SPEAKER 01 :
Not only are they not furious, they’re protecting them, Bob.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, I know. Mainstream media, where are you guys in this? Where’s the liberal left? You guys should be furious. You talk about, you know, truth to power. OK, well, come on, media. Your job is to hold the powerful to account. You have racist groups that have been propped up and funded by the very organization that purports to expose racist groups. And while we’re at it, Neil, the Southern Poverty Law Center, if you go to their website, as I did a few days ago, look at the list of hate groups that they have in America. Their list of hate groups are things like the KKK, Aryan Nation, Neo-Nazis. OK, of course. But they also have listed alongside the KKK, Family Research Council, Focus on the Family, American Family Association, Alliance Defending Freedom, Charlie Kirk and Turning Point USA. PragerU, Moms for Liberty. OK, the Christian groups, they have lumped in with the KKK. But do you know who is not on their hate list? Black Lives Matter, Antifa, Animal Liberation Front and Earth Liberation Front, two violent domestic terrorist organizations by any means necessary, which is a group that actually – brags about the violence that they commit in the name of leftist causes. Jane’s Revenge admitted to vandalizing and attacking dozens of churches and pro-life centers during the Roe v. Wade deliberation. None of those groups are on the hate list of the Southern Poverty Law Center. This is how corrupt Neil’s organization is.
SPEAKER 02 :
Jane’s Revenge firebombed Compass Care, a pro-life group right here about three miles from my house. That’s right.
SPEAKER 03 :
But they’re not on the hate list. Focus on the family is.
SPEAKER 02 :
Focus on the families. You’ve got to watch out for the Moms for Liberty. They’re the ones burning down cities. They’re a dangerous group, I’m telling you. Wow. Well, let’s talk about our future broadcast. We can’t do justice in three minutes, but let’s talk about Southern Poverty Law Center on a future episode.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah. You know what? We really should. Because what I want to know is, is anybody in the media going to tout them again as a source for monitoring hate? Or they’re just going to quietly hope everybody gets amnesia to how many times ABC, NBC, CBS and others have said to SPLC, here’s what they say. It’s like, no, you know, they’re a sham scam organization. We only got about a minute or so left. Real quick, John, Iran war. What do you think happens at this point? The Strait of Hormuz, we’re keeping it blocked on our end, hoping that that kind of economic pressure— What’s winding down there?
SPEAKER 01 :
They’re so strapped for cash. It’s really killing their economy. It’s already starting to affect their people now. A lot of the wells, because of the way they function there, are going to be permanently closed. Shut down. There’s a chance of them losing 500 million barrels a day in production already. That’s where it stands today. That could get worse as time goes by. So, yeah, this thing is winding down because the reality is they can’t afford to go much longer. Donald Trump knew exactly what he was doing when it came to all of that. Hats off to him.
SPEAKER 03 :
And by the way, Neil, one of the things Notice Trump is doing here, he’s trying to take every means possible to keep from leveling the infrastructure, the roads, the bridges, the power plants, taking electricity away from the civilians in Iran. He actually is in a humanitarian way trying to protect the lifestyle of the civilians in Iran. And that’s another thing that Trump derangement syndrome people will never acknowledge or give him credit for.
SPEAKER 02 :
Keeping the infrastructure intact, including roads and bridges and stuff, is going to make it easier for the 80 million people that live in Iran that don’t want that radical Islamic regime anymore. running the country, to overthrow the country. And as it collapses internally, economically, then I pray, God willing, this is going to happen exactly what we had wanted in the first place. That’s right.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, it’s another National Crawford Roundtable podcast behind us. We always appreciate you folks tuning in. Neil Boron, Neil Boron, live out of Buffalo, New York. John Rush, Rush Reason out of Denver, Colorado. Myself, Bob Duco, The Bob Duco Show out of Detroit. Guys, always great talking with you. Thanks a lot. Have a great week. See you next week. Hey, we’ll see you.
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Episode 349-Iran, SCOTUS, and Virginia Gerrymandering