Join Fred Williams and Doug McBurney as they unravel the hidden electrical currents that drive our world, from the chips in our devices to the very cells in our bodies. This episode of Real Science Radio explores how God’s designs incorporate electricity in ways we’ve yet to fully appreciate. From the surprising electrical activity in our own skin cells to the electrical design at the heart of conception, prepare to be inspired by the wonders of divine creation.
I mean, you go back to the very moment of conception, you see this electrical charge. It’s this spark of life.
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Greetings to the brightest audience in the country. This is Real Science Radio. I’m Fred Williams. And I’m Doug McBurney.
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Fred, what have you done to the memory chip industry? Have you seen what’s going on?
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I have, and it looks like they’ve got a memory chip shortage now. I used to work at Micron. I recently retired from there. So, hey, what’s going on over there? Well, I know one thing for sure. This chip shortage. Yeah. When I retired, like back in this last summer, the stock price was like around a hundred. Yeah. You’re like 435 now. Get out. Yeah. 430 somewhere in there. I can’t believe it. The thing’s going through the roof because of this shortage. One of the reasons is a shortage on memory chips. Oh, you know, that’s DRAM that helps you run in your laptops to NAND memory, which is more storage devices. And yeah, Doug, it’s been quite.
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So Fred, now, wait a minute. Now, do you have like stocks still in the old company?
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You know, I wish I actually had some and I’m like, I’m going to hold on to this because there’s a lot of positives going on. And it made this really good jump, like 20, 30%. So I sold it. So here it is 400% later. I kind of wish my 30% sale was, so, you know, I made a little bit of money on it, but yeah, my son still works there and I, he’s pretty happy.
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Okay. Well, Fred, I was suspecting that you had plotted. I thought maybe you had a good feeling that as soon as you retired, that they just wouldn’t be able to keep up anymore. And then you just pump your stock price up, but obviously it wasn’t a conspiracy, at least not on your part.
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No. But, you know, the thing that makes our chips run, Doug, is the backbone is electricity. It’s voltage. That’s right. You know, when you get down to computer, you know, I was thinking about this today. We think of all the technology around us, and everybody would think of electricity as one of the elements. You know, we need, like in the NAND memory, the storage in your computers is all controlled by ones and zeros. Well, that’s different voltage levels. In the NAND, that takes it even farther in different levels of voltage and voltage curves. Well, it got me thinking, you know, God really loves to use electricity, but we don’t think of that when we look at the human body. We look out into space. We look at creation in general. Do you think electricity? Not really. You think of maybe a lightning bolt, and it’s like, well, that’s kind of, that’s, you know, that’s a storm. You know, what does that have to do with creation? But there’s electricity all over the place, and that’s one of the topics we’re going to cover today. I’m looking forward to this article from Quantum Magazine today. And it plays right into a field that you’re familiar with, which is skin. I know that you’re in the medical field and you do a lot of stuff with skin. And it turns out electricity, God uses electricity in our skin too. So those are all things we’re going to talk about, how God loves using electricity more than I think we ever realized before.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, Fred, when you think of cosmology or even biology or even computers, I don’t think of electricity first. I think of silica and wires and copper. But really, without the electricity, all that other stuff doesn’t work, and God loves it. But before we get to that, Fred… We have another piece of evidence in a growing mountain of evidence that all scientists work for Walt Brown, whether they know it or not, whether they’re even trying or not. They’re working for Walt Brown because they found some rocks on Mars spread, according to the Science Daily article. rocks on Mars that are strange in color and in their makeup. Did you download this one? Have you reviewed this and done your work to prepare here?
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Yeah, so Science Daily, this is from January 26th. Now, this is something that was reported on in December. We kept meaning to get to the story, Doug, so we need to cover it. Because again, every time we look at the latest science news, there’s always something in there about discoveries that Walt Brown predicted decades ago, really. Dr. Walt Brown recently passed away, and he’s the author of the hydroplate theory, which we support here. And that’s this idea that the global flood was the release of the fountains of the great deep that shot up a bunch of material into space that became our comets and asteroids. And some of that is some of those material that ejecta. pummeled the moon and made it out past Mars and possibly even coalesced into Pluto. There’s so many things that point to the Earth as an origin. Well, anyway, so it looks like the NASA’s Mars Perseverance rover, it found these strange bright white rocks on Mars. And Purdue University did a study that, again, just appeared in this article in Science Daily. And so it found these white rocks, and as far as I know, they haven’t really sampled them, but they do know that they’re aluminum-rich. They’re clays, and it’s called kaolinite, and they usually form on Earth only after millions of years. Of course, I’ve got to get that in there. Of heavy rainfall in warm, humid environments. So, Doug, imagine a million-year-old rainstorm.
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I was going to say it didn’t rain for a million years.
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Man, I was going to go to Cancun, but it’s been raining there for a million years, so I think I’ll skip that destination spot.
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Oh, and by the way, just really quickly, it’s kaolinite. Don’t anyone confuse that with koalinite. Koalinite is the rocks that are fuzzy with the big eyes, and they’re really cute. This is kaolinite, which is an aluminum-rich clay. That normally forms, I just, I wanted to stop the presses right there when you said it’s called kaolinite, usually forms on earth. I was like, well, hold up right there. Just that. Yeah, it usually forms on earth.
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Oh, go ahead, Fred. Yeah. Well, if you just read what this guy from Purdue said, Bryony Horgan, he runs a lab at Purdue. He said that when you see colonite, is that how you said it, Doug? I want to get that right now, not koala bear night.
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It’s cowl, like a cowl on an engine.
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Cowl night, okay, on a place like Mars. Yeah, what Doug said. Where it’s barren, cold, and with certainly no liquid water at the surface, it tells us there was once a lot of water than there is today.
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Well, wait, wait, wait, Fred. Why does it tell us that? Couldn’t it tell us a number of things? Why would you leap to that immediate conclusion? Well, let’s just continue. Go ahead.
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Yeah, well, you know, one of the things they said was they say it’s puzzling that the rocks are scattered across the landscape with no obvious source nearby. Hinting at dramatic ancient events like floods, river transport, or get this, Doug, asteroid impacts. Okay, so now they’re getting a little closer, maybe. Okay. So, I mean, we’ve got another idea. And Doug, as far as explanation goes, there is another. Hey, that’s not a bad Yoda impersonation. Okay. So we have another explanation. And they may not have, these rocks may not have been formed on Mars at all. How about under the hydroplate theory? They may have been expelled in massive quantities from the global flood, and some of that debris easily would have made it to Mars and beyond. I mean, you look at the asteroid belt and you’ve got all the comets flying around our solar system that all, by the way, have materials similar to what we find on Earth. In fact, Bennu, we’ve mentioned it many times, the asteroid Bennu has serpentinite on it, and you only find that mostly at the mid-oceanic ridges, which is the crack around the globe, which is where the mountains are great. exploded and blew all this stuff into space. So Doug, maybe Mars didn’t have oceans, maybe these rocks that they’re finding that came from a watery environment, I think there’s a pretty good chance they originated from Earth.
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Yeah, I think so. And there’s also a pretty good chance, Fred, that the way this article is written is yet more evidence that the media in general is biased to the left. They immediately, before they put the other logical assumptions that you might make—meteor impacts, floods— They say that it could mean that ancient evidence of water and that so that the bias is automatically toward old universe cosmology. They have to get that in there first before they go on with other reasonable assumptions, because this is a propaganda piece as much as anything else. And we know that because it appears in Science Daily, which is a propaganda organ of the leftist cosmology cabal, which is pretty much everybody. It’s not a conspiracy when everybody’s in on it. It’s just an industry. But here’s the thing, Fred. It’s not that Mars was once resembled a postcard from Bimini. It’s that it’s the fingerprints of Noah’s flood when God judged the world. to judge the sin of the earth by a great catastrophe and kill everybody except eight people.
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Yeah. Yeah. And if you look at Mars and you see these things that just seem out of place, yeah, God could have created it like that, but why? It doesn’t make a lot of sense to me, it seems like. And just as this article said, it seems likely these rocks came from somewhere else. And that’s somewhere else. Maybe the one watery environment we know of in the universe, Earth, maybe they came from Earth. Well, the thing I couldn’t glean from this article, and I also looked at the study from Purdue, it wasn’t clear to me how much samples that they’ve got of this rock. So this is where none other than Elon Musk comes into play, Doug. So he’s been talking about going to Mars for decades. And I think we were supposed to be there by November 2025, right? So, Doug, we’re like in early February 2026. I don’t think we got a studio on Mars yet, do we?
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No, no.
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We’re not broadcasting from Mars. We’re not. Even if we did have Earth travel to Mars, I don’t think I’ll be buying a ticket to go to Mars. Why would I want to go to that dead planet? But anyways, I digress. If we can get Elon Musk to get somebody to Mars and bring a rock back, just like Alan Shepard brought that moon rock back that came from Earth’s beneath the Earth’s surface in a water environment. That would be super interesting. And we can predict here on Real Science Radio, if they do get samples of a rock that they can bring back, it’s going to have a lot more material similar to what we see in the Earth’s crust. And very likely near the fountains of the Great Deep, the mid-oceanic ridge. I wouldn’t be surprised if they also found serpentine and other watery environment materials, just like NASA said they found on that Earth rock that’s on the moon.
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That’s right. That’s right. So Elon Musk, we need to get a message out to Elon. You know, Fred, when he founded SpaceX, he went around raising private money by promising relatively gullible billionaires that he was going to put a man on Mars or put a rocket on Mars. And they all believed him. And he funded the company billions of dollars. And now, you know, he’s getting ready for his IPO. He’s going to try and do his IPO on his birthday when all the planets align and make himself the first trillionaire. It’s real, Fred. This is actually happening. And one of the things he could use at his IPO announcement to gin up some more credibility, which for some reason he has no end of credibility. Anyway, he could say that we’re going to get rocks from Mars and we’re going to find out exactly what’s going on. But he would have to stop with his XAI programming chatbots to talk dirty to people. He would have to stop long enough to get the program started to go get these rocks from Mars. So that would be great, Fred, if we could actually look at the actual rocks and sample them.
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Yeah, I think at some point we will. And again, we’ve got a prediction here at Real Science Radio that it’s going to fit very nicely with the hydroplate theory. And speaking of the hydroplate theories, at store.rsr.org, we have the latest, the ninth edition of the hydroplate theory book. You can pre-order now. And in fact, Doug, these are kind of going hot off the presses. People are pre-ordering these books. We feel like it’s going to be March timeframe, maybe late March when we’re actually going to start delivering them. We’re expecting our big pallet of books to arrive maybe mid-March. So you can look to get that book by the end of March. I had one guy reach out. He’s buying a couple, and he teaches hydroplate theory. in his school, which is great. So, again, store.rsr.org. You can also sponsor a show. You can help keep us on the air by donating to Real Science Radio. All that money 100% goes to promoting this show, video editing, whatever it is. Doug, have I given you a raise any time in the last five years?
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The last good joke I told you doubled my pay. I was so grateful.
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Two times zero is zero. So, yeah. We don’t get paid here. Everybody’s a volunteer. That’s right. But we need to pay for the radio time at KLTT AM 670 every Friday at 1230 p.m. right in the lunchtime crunch hour. It’s crunch literally, right? I guess they’re pun intended while you’re eating your lunch.
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Yeah.
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So anyways, please help us stay on the air. Go to store.rsar.org. And speaking of sponsoring a show, we got a guy, Frank, in Eagle River, Alaska. He sponsored us, and he’s the sponsor of this week’s Interesting Fact of the Week.
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Which we’ll do later on. We’re going to do that later.
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We’re going to do it right now, but good try. Nice try, Doug, trying to get out of it.
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Wait, you didn’t let me finish the promo on the book. Folks, you’ve got to order the book. Get the ninth edition of In the Beginning by Dr. Walt Brown. Because we were planning earlier last year to tie the price to the price of precious metals. And we didn’t do that because of some technical difficulties. But if we can make that happen, you’re going to want to buy the book now. Because… It might be a lot more six months from now. So get the ninth edition now before the price goes out of the world insane. Out of this world insane is what I’m trying to say.
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Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And I’m just trying to keep talking. There you go, Doug. That’s it. Now that means if you did that and you wait, you could miss out on a 500% increase in the price of the book. I can’t believe what gold and silver is doing. But anyways, that’s another story. Pretty crazy. So, Doug, here is the interesting fact of the week. Okay. And before I give this, I’m going to give a little bit of a tease. After this, I have to have a mea culpa on our last interesting fact of the week. Oh. Which was an AI-generated incorrect claim that I should have researched further. But okay, so here’s the interesting fact of the week. What part of your body generates an electrical field strong enough to be detected several feet away from you? For me?
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Of your body. My feet. Oh, I thought you said smell. I didn’t know you said that. Oh, yeah.
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Go ahead. Okay. Your heart is…
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Oh, no kidding, right? Yeah. You know, if I would have thought about actually answering the question instead of trying to come up with a joke, I might have figured that one out, Fred.
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You probably would have. Okay. So, Doug, last week’s interesting fact, I asked you, what weighs about the same as a paperclip, runs on electricity, contains more moving parts than a jet engine, and performs about a quadrillion operations per second? And you said a cockroach, which wasn’t bad because it was close to the answer. The answer is supposed to be the human brain. Yeah. And you’re like, you question that, and it’s like, okay, it turns out the brain weighs about three pounds. And you can maybe say that a paperclip weighs maybe as much as the neural circuits in the brain. I mean, I can do all kinds of calisthenics and gymnastics to try to get out of this one, Doug, but… I think the question itself got mutated a little bit by A.I., And I’m looking at a page right now that says this. If you watch it on YouTube, you’ll see it on the screen. Approximately 1.5 grams or 3.3 pounds is the weight of a human brain, which is about the weight of a paper clip. It’s right here. This is from AI. Wait, wait.
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Did it say grams or did it say kilograms? Read that again.
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Okay. It’s approximately 1.5 kilograms. Okay. Okay. Which is 3.3 pounds. Yeah. And then it goes on to say, which is about the weight of a paper clip.
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See, you got to double check AI.
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Yeah. So then you go to a different AI and it says the average human brain weighs between 1.2 and 1.8 kilograms, about 2.6 to 4 pounds, while a standard paper clip weighs about one gram. Okay. Therefore, the brain is much heavier than a paperclip.
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Yes, yes. Now, why does AI default to the metric system? I don’t like that. See, it’s all biased to the left, Fred. Everything. Yep. Okay, Doug. I have to do the math in my head. Every time they say kilograms, I’m like, okay, I got to try to figure this out. All right. But hey, I guess it helps make me smarter to make me have to think so.
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Okay, so Doug, the next thing we want to talk about is electricity and how God loves to use it throughout creation. Well, we’ve discovered another area where he uses electricity, and this comes from Quantum Magazine. This was an article in middle of January, and it says that your body is doing electrical engineering while you’re asleep. Oh, good.
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Well, Fred, that’s because most of us can’t do electrical engineering. That’s why we need guys like you. We need engineers.
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Well, you know, I can barely do electrical engineering, you know, while I’m awake, but… All right. Well, you know, and this gets to what Sal Cordova said, you know, at MIT, you’ve got lots of electrical engineers and computer engineers getting hired by biology related firms because of their knowledge of not just electricity, but computer programming, because we’re seeing all of that in nature. So this article is super interesting because it has to do with electricity in the skin. Yeah.
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Oh, yeah. And Fred, we’ve had two shows just in the recent past that kind of set the table for this. You remember we had Dr. James Ashman on that energy medicine show we did. We talked about earthing and the body’s conductive tissues. Electrical currents, electrical fields, very interesting stuff. And Gerald Pollack, you remember, structured water, EZ water, right? Exclusion zone water and the idea that biology and cells can function like a battery. Well, now Quantum Magazine just ran a piece based on a nature paper showing something just really wild, Fred. Cells in your skin. And the linings of your organs use bioelectricity to coordinate group decisions. Yeah. Group decisions between different cells and organelles. And a lot of it has to do with cell regeneration and disposal of… either sick or degraded cells where the cells seem to tell each other, hey, this cell is struggling, eject it. And so your skin is kind of like, it’s like acting like the bouncer at the bar.
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That’s right. And Doug, you work in the field of skin medicine, right, to some degree. And you’ve worked with doctors for years in this field.
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Have you heard of this before? Well, I wouldn’t call it anything like medicine, but it does have to do with the skin, and I’ve been doing it for many years. And what’s interesting, Fred— is I have heard about and talked about these events and cascades and the things that the skin does and signaling. I’ve talked about it all for 20 years, but I never really have put two and two together that the backbone of it all is really electricity. It’s electricity that allows cell-to-cell communication. How do proteins communicate with an organelle? How do they deliver their information? And we see it’s electricity, right?
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Yeah. So there’s this Jodi Rosenblatt in this Nature article. She’s at King’s College London and the Francis Crick Institute. She says, electrical currents are flowing through your body all the time, and they’re doing things. So… Doug, according to the new results, as epithelial tissue grows, did I say that right, Doug? You’re the skin expert.
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Epithelial tissue is a fancy medical biological engineering term for your epidermis, which is the outer layer of your skin. Your skin is basically two layers, the dermis, the living tissue, and the epidermis, which we used to call dead tissue. It turns out it’s It’s way more sophisticated than just dead tissue, but it does eventually slough off. That’s the epithelium. Yes. Good job, Fred, pronouncing that, by the way.
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Okay. So this tissue, the cells are packed more tightly together, and that increases the electrical current flowing through each cell’s membrane. And so a weak, old, energy-starved cell will struggle to compensate for triggering a response that sends water rushing out of the cell. So this gets to the Dr. Gerald Polak, which was a great show, by the way, shriveling it up, marking it for death. In this way, electricity acts like a health checkup for the tissue and guides the pruning process.
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And Fred, what people might not know, in addition to that cell losing all of its water and shriveling up, and then it’s eventually going to slough off. Right. It’s been marked for death. Well, before it does that, the cells actually they migrate to the very top of the epithelium, the very outer layer of your skin, and they form a concave shape. They start to bend because they’re all dried out and they become translucent. And they actually reflect harmful UV radiation. In their final death throes, they form a sort of a little suit of armor of what are called, they’re no longer keratinocytes, they become corneocytes. They’re like a hard suit of armor that actually protects your skin from impacts and reflect armor. And then they slough off and die and go off and get recycled. And it’s all very sophisticated and amazing. Wow.
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And they say that, you know, where this can really matter, too, is too much growth, you know, without this electrical mechanism, there wouldn’t be the removal, and that can contribute to cancer, to tumors. And even—I found this interesting—even to asthma. It’s one of the conditions that can get out of whack if this thing isn’t working. So there’s a lot of reason for this electrical design. And who would have thought that, you know, you’ve got this electricity running through your skin all the time. Yeah, yeah.
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It’s amazing stuff. So a little bit more from the article. This is a very interesting discovery. They say finding that bioelectricity is the earliest event during this cell extrusion process, which it’s really obvious in the skin, but it’s going on all throughout your body. Ions are atoms or molecules that carry charge because of extra or missing electrons. Which I don’t know that. That’s like fundamental electricity 101, right, Fred?
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Well, that’s news to me. The electrons, I’m sorry, these ions, they either have a negative or a positive charge, and they can enter and exit cells only through specialized protein channels and pumps. Just like a hydroelectric plant can use surplus energy to pump water back up the reservoir for later use, cells use their chemical energy to pump ions uphill against the electrical flow. By controlling the natural current and letting positive or negative charge build up on either side of their membranes, cells maintain their membrane potential. And if this energy is used or leaks away, Cells can replenish it by expending more of their chemical energy. It’s just shocking, Fred. It’s amazing. And so we think, I’ve always thought of electricity like, yeah, maybe in my brain there’s like this sparky brain stuff going on. But it’s more than that, Fred. It’s like sparky everything everywhere going on.
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Yeah. Just like Gerald Polak said, they’ve got really good evidence of this battery in your cell. And now we’re looking at it in the skin. And basically, it seems like the tissue is running a stress test. And can the skin tissue cells, can they hold their voltage under pressure? And so that’s where it’s kind of like a group decision idea. And this Rosenblatt describes the cells as bullying each other, probing for the weakest link. Now, that’s kind of almost implying some kind of Darwinian thing. Well, they got to get that in there. Yeah. This is obviously a design. And what struck me was… how electricity is used so often by God and we just miss it. You know, we haven’t, we’re discovering it now in more recent scientific times, but you look back again, we talked about micron and the memory chips and computers and everything’s running off electricity. It turns out our body is running quite a bit off of electricity and it just ties in with so many other things that we see in nature. You know, Doug, and we’ll get to this here first.
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And what we do on the show, Fred, I mentioned Dr. Ashman. Remember, he basically said that your body is conductive. We talked about the body having conductive properties, electrical fields, currents, and all of that.
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Yeah. And so to me, if you think about just conception, I mean, you go back to the very moment of conception and
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