Navigating Marriage with Faith and Wisdom

SPEAKER 01 : 0:09

Welcome to Call to Freedom with Barbara Carmack. This is Jimmy Lakey, and I’m delighted that you are joining us for this half hour. You can reach Call to Freedom at Box 370367, Denver, Colorado, 80237, or by going to the website at www.freedomstreet.org. If you want to leave a message or order a Word Power Daily Reading Bible Guide or a Freedom Street Express newsletter, you can call us toll free at 1-877-917-7256 and leave your name and address, including your zip code. If you want to talk to Barbara right now, she is expecting your call. You may call that same toll-free number, 1-877-917-7256 to speak to her. And now, let’s join Barbara in the studio.

SPEAKER 03 : 1:04

On this encore show, Darren and I receive a call from Cecilia, who has been dealing with a spirit of anger, and her husband has been very hostile toward her, and this behavior is ruining their marriage. Darren advises her that she may have slipped back into old habit patterns and counsels her to get into the Word to renew her mind and get on the right track. He gives her Romans 12.2, “…and be not conformed to this world again, but be transformed through the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what the will of God is for you.” He advises her to get rid of the old habit patterns by letting the word of God cleanse those habits. And with the blood of Jesus binds spirits of mockery and anger. He tells her that if she speaks the word out loud, her life will change. And I remind her that nothing is too difficult for God. Now let’s join the program.

SPEAKER 02 : 1:51

Well, today we have some teaching for you that I know will bless you, and it’ll give you some keys on how to get your life changed so that you can step into that success pattern and cycle that you need to be operating in. And Joshua 1.8 says, If you meditate on the word day and night, it will bring you prosperity and success.

SPEAKER 03 : 2:10

That doesn’t mean to have the book open in front of you. You can’t possibly do that day and night. But to meditate on the good things, to meditate on the things of God in your heart, in your mind, to cleanse yourself. It’s a wonderful thing.

SPEAKER 02 : 2:24

And that word in the Hebrew means to chew, to chew the word, to speak the word, to mumble the word. And I saw a man on television the other night that I hadn’t seen for a number of years, and he really teaches that. He mumbles in tongues. He mumbles scriptures. And God has blessed him with an anointing on his life that’s just extraordinary. But let’s pray. Would that be okay? Yes. Father, I thank you that we are completing another week here in Jesus. And Jesus, it’s a delight to walk with you because you’re a winner. And because you paid the price, you didn’t wimp out, you didn’t give up. And you did that all for us, not for you, but for us. And we so thank you. And Father God, we thank you for sending Jesus, your son, to pay the price for a sin that he didn’t commit and a price we couldn’t pay. And then, Jesus, you returned to your Father, and then you sent Holy Spirit to be with us as a helper, as a person to come alongside. Holy Spirit, we thank you that you’re a real person. You’re a real entity. You do exist. You’re not just a fog or a smoke or a little cloud running around. or a little fairy dancing on the fence, you’re a real person. And we thank you for being that person to us. And Jesus, we just again thank you for sending us precious Holy Spirit to reveal the word to us. And Holy Spirit, we thank you today that you’re opening up the word and showing us inspiration, revelation knowledge, how we might understand. In Jesus’ name, amen.

SPEAKER 03 : 3:50

Amen.

SPEAKER 02 : 3:51

Let’s take a call here from Cecilia in Fort Morgan. How are you doing?

SPEAKER 04 : 3:55

Hi, pretty good.

SPEAKER 02 : 3:56

Good.

SPEAKER 04 : 3:56

Hey, I was just wondering if you could pray with me about something or help me understand something.

SPEAKER 02 : 4:03

We’ll do our best.

SPEAKER 04 : 4:04

Yeah. I am a Christian, and my husband’s not, and this is a marriage problem or a husband-wife problem.

SPEAKER 02 : 4:12

Okay, is this the first marriage?

SPEAKER 04 : 4:13

Yes, it is.

SPEAKER 02 : 4:14

Okay. Was he an unbeliever when you married him?

SPEAKER 04 : 4:17

We were both unbelievers.

SPEAKER 02 : 4:18

Okay.

SPEAKER 04 : 4:19

And I gave my life to the Lord about 10 years ago. Oh, well, great. Yeah. And let’s see. I don’t even know where to start.

SPEAKER 02 : 4:27

Well, one more question. How long have you been married? 16 years. 16 years. Do you have kids?

SPEAKER 04 : 4:32

We have three and one grandson.

SPEAKER 02 : 4:34

Okay. And how old are your children?

SPEAKER 04 : 4:36

Leah is 19 and my other one is 16 and 14.

SPEAKER 02 : 4:41

Did you guys live together before you got married?

SPEAKER 04 : 4:44

For about… six months not very long okay all right yeah okay so uh i guess you know um the guy i think god’s dealing with me about sin in my life prior to serving him and um do you know why i really believe cecilia god’s going to answer some big big uh prayers for you No, and I don’t know how you can say that when you don’t know what I’m going to say.

SPEAKER 02 : 5:13

Yeah, but I’ll tell you what. See, you’re starting with yourself. So you’re admitting, you say, you know, I had some sin, you know, I had some sin. You’re not laying it on everybody else, and that’s a great place to start.

SPEAKER 03 : 5:24

That’s right. Do you know how rare that is?

SPEAKER 04 : 5:26

That’s because God’s been dealing with me.

SPEAKER 02 : 5:29

Wonderful.

SPEAKER 04 : 5:31

And it goes back to prior to being a Christian and my anger and… revenge and just the awful sin that the enemy has in, you know, that we have in our life. And I live with a husband that doesn’t forget nor forgive. And he tells me that he did forgive me, but he never forgot. So therefore, he never did forgive me.

SPEAKER 02 : 5:56

Okay, what did you do?

SPEAKER 04 : 5:57

And, well, I had terrible temper. And I, you know, like the first year we were married, I broke windows and, you know, just, I was just awful, awful.

SPEAKER 02 : 6:08

You know, that’s really called rage. You know, that’s kind of beyond anger. You know what I mean? When you just lash out and you’re so frustrated you don’t know what to do, you throw things and beat up on things.

SPEAKER 03 : 6:20

So why does he bring that up to you now?

SPEAKER 04 : 6:23

I don’t know. So, you know, I give my life to the Lord and I tried to, you know, make myself so I wouldn’t do that. I would pray to God for two years already that he would change me. And my husband would… do things and say things to make me angry and I would walk away and sometimes I wouldn’t and this last time he was at me and at me and at me and all this old stuff came back up again. Came back up in you?

SPEAKER 02 : 6:52

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER 04 : 6:53

And I knew it was wrong and I feel like I’m paying still for all this stuff and my husband doesn’t talk to me anymore. He doesn’t look at me and It’s just like, you know, I know that it’s over.

SPEAKER 02 : 7:09

But do you want to know why this is happening?

SPEAKER 04 : 7:12

Yeah, because of the sin in my life, and I’m paying for it.

SPEAKER 02 : 7:15

No, no, hang on. Hang on. Let’s talk about it now. See, you confessed that sin, haven’t you?

SPEAKER 04 : 7:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER 02 : 7:20

Okay, so you fell back into an old habit pattern. And I tell you, Cecile, this is… I don’t want that anymore. I know. I’ve been there. But I’ve got to tell you something. This is exactly what we’re going to talk about today. And if you’ll stick with us when we finish talking, we’ll get your address. I’ll send you a copy of this broadcast, because I think it’ll help you. Okay. Now, what we’re talking about here is the spirits that are in your husband motivating him. It’s really a spirit of mockery and blasphemy coming against the spirit of God that’s in you. Now, you made a mistake. I’m sure you’ve asked God to forgive you for blowing your stack, right? Okay, what you’re afraid of is, you know, is that a permanent sin? Did I really get forgiven? Will I be able to not do that again? Am I making sense? Uh-huh. Okay. Well, let me tell you, down inside of you, in fact, I’ve got this written on my notes. I put it in my notes about a minute before we came on here. Down inside of our hearts, we have a thing called the will. A lot of people say, well, there’s willpower, but a will is like a light switch on a wall. you can make a decision to turn that light switch on or off. Well, we can make a decision to set our will, for example, to renew our minds in the Word, because what you have is unrenewed way down in there. Attitudes, feelings, thoughts, ideas, memories. And what you want to do is bring those into subjection to God’s Word. Does that make sense?

SPEAKER 05 : 8:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER 02 : 8:48

Okay. Well, when we do that, that’s Romans 12.2. It says, Be renewed in the spirit of your mind. But when you get under great pressure, what’s down inside will come out. Now, it doesn’t mean you’re a sinner, but it means there’s some old habit patterns in there. So here’s the way it works. We make a decision to submit to the Word, and we start speaking the Word and let God’s Word change us inside. Then when we get renewed in those areas of anger and bitterness and whatever, over into peace and self-control, then one day we turn a corner and our habits are different, and then our actions are different. Is that kind of what you want?

SPEAKER 04 : 9:31

But you know what I’m struggling with is that I know that God forgave me for my sins, but I have to live with somebody that hasn’t.

SPEAKER 02 : 9:40

Yeah, but just a minute. See, when you get your mind really renewed down inside.

SPEAKER 03 : 9:46

He won’t push your buttons anymore.

SPEAKER 02 : 9:48

Well, he won’t be able to as well.

SPEAKER 03 : 9:50

Yes.

SPEAKER 02 : 9:51

And you’re going to react differently.

SPEAKER 03 : 9:52

Yes.

SPEAKER 02 : 9:54

Now, also, there’s some things we can teach you to do. For example, with the blood of Jesus, name of Jesus, we can agree with you. And the listeners I know feel your pain. I’ll just be honest with you. And we can, in agreement, bind that spirit of mockery, bind that spirit of blasphemy, bind that spirit of torment and harassment. See, and all those spirits are coming from the devil. They’re harassing your husband because the bottom line is the spirit in him is absolutely opposed to the spirit in you.

SPEAKER 03 : 10:22

Absolutely, yes.

SPEAKER 02 : 10:23

See, that’s the spirit of the devil. Now, it doesn’t mean he’s possessed. I don’t believe he’s possessed. But he just wants a Pikachu and Pikachu, but that’s not him.

SPEAKER 03 : 10:31

Yes, that’s a spirit.

SPEAKER 02 : 10:33

That’s a spirit motivating him. Does that make sense?

SPEAKER 03 : 10:38

Well, and it says in Colossians 3, 18 and 19, it says, Wives, be subject to your husbands as is fitting in the Lord. That means that you don’t do anything outside the will of God that your husband requests. You know, if your husband would request outlandish things outside the will of God, you do not have to meet those requests. Also, it says, Husbands, love your wives and do not be embittered against them or have a get even vindictive attitudes towards them. And that’s what you’re facing. It’s a demonic. Yeah.

SPEAKER 04 : 11:07

I don’t think that my husband likes me anymore. He tells me that I’m fat, ugly, and stupid, and that I don’t have any say-so in what goes on in the house because he’s the man of the house.

SPEAKER 02 : 11:18

Have I talked to you before? Yes, you have.

SPEAKER 04 : 11:21

What he says goes, and I don’t have any say-so. You’re telling me that what I think and what I say doesn’t have any say in this house and it doesn’t mean anything.

SPEAKER 02 : 11:31

That’s right. Have you got a pencil there? Uh-huh. Okay, write this down. You can’t reason with a spirit.

SPEAKER 03 : 11:38

That’s right.

SPEAKER 1 : 11:39

Oh.

SPEAKER 02 : 11:40

So you’re trying to reason. You’re trying to have some kind of comeback. And you can’t reason with a spirit of mockery, a spirit of blasphemy, a critical spirit, a jealous spirit. I think the last time we talked to you, there was a spirit of jealousy involved. And so you just can’t reason with them. I didn’t know that. Yeah, well, if you think about it, you’d know that. And Jesus, you know, in Luke chapter, why don’t you read Luke chapter 3 and 4? Okay. In Luke chapter 4, the devil came after Jesus. He didn’t reason with the devil. He just spoke the word to him.

SPEAKER 03 : 12:13

Now, how much time are you giving to the Word every day, Cecilia?

SPEAKER 04 : 12:16

Actually, I come into my bedroom about 7 o’clock, and I’m in there until 9.

SPEAKER 03 : 12:21

Okay.

SPEAKER 04 : 12:21

And I spend like from 9 to 9.30 praying.

SPEAKER 03 : 12:25

Okay. So what you can say is, Lord, I open my eyes and I open my ears to receive your Word for me today, that it might become fruit, that it might get a good harvest here in my life.

SPEAKER 02 : 12:39

Thank you.

SPEAKER 03 : 12:40

The last time that I talked to you guys, it’s worse now. Well, sometimes that happens. It gets worse before it gets better.

SPEAKER 02 : 12:48

The devil wants to get you down and keep you down. Did we send you a power pack?

SPEAKER 03 : 12:52

Yeah, you did.

SPEAKER 02 : 12:53

Okay. See, there’s some instructions in there like speaking the word out loud for self-control.

SPEAKER 04 : 13:00

No, I didn’t.

SPEAKER 02 : 13:01

Okay.

SPEAKER 04 : 13:02

Not that, no.

SPEAKER 02 : 13:02

All right. Well, do you still have the power pack? Mm-hmm. Okay, get it out, and it tells you. And I would do it like this, for example. You also need confidence. Mm-hmm. You also need peace. You need purity of heart. But I’d begin saying those scriptures out loud morning, noon, and night.

SPEAKER 03 : 13:18

Okay.

SPEAKER 02 : 13:19

Now, Barb has something for you.

SPEAKER 03 : 13:20

All right. Well, the categories aren’t that specifically. It’s against a spirit of fear. And so I would pick out those cards that are designated for my particular area that I’m dealing with.

SPEAKER 04 : 13:34

Right.

SPEAKER 02 : 13:37

Go ahead.

SPEAKER 04 : 13:37

What else? Could you guys pray? Sure. I also want that one… A scripture that your wife read about J-Bell, is that his name?

SPEAKER 03 : 13:50

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER 04 : 13:50

And I don’t know where that’s at. Was that in the Bible that you found?

SPEAKER 03 : 13:54

Oh, absolutely.

SPEAKER 04 : 13:55

I would like to pray that over, you know, for my grandson and my children.

SPEAKER 03 : 14:00

Okay, praise God. That’s like in the fourth chapter of First Chronicles. Oh. Let’s see. Yeah. It’s the fourth chapter of First Chronicles, and it’s the tenth verse. And his mother gave him the name, I bore him with pain. So, you know, we were talking about, you know, he’s a pain in the neck. Yeah.

SPEAKER 04 : 14:18

See, that’s what my kids grew up with, listening to that. You’re just a pain, you’re a pain.

SPEAKER 05 : 14:22

Yeah, that’s right.

SPEAKER 04 : 14:24

And my daughter went to North Dakota. She’s going to the university up there. She’s living with Grandma and Grandpa. and took the grandson with. And I don’t want my grandson to be exposed to that stuff, and I don’t want him to be… Well, let’s start with you.

SPEAKER 02 : 14:40

Okay. All right, here’s what I’d like for you to do. Take out those power packs, the scriptures, and I’d pick three categories that apply to you, that you want to become.

SPEAKER 03 : 14:50

Yes. All right.

SPEAKER 02 : 14:51

Now, see, if you speak the word out loud every morning, noon, and night, and I do it like in repetitions of seven,

SPEAKER 1 : 14:58

All right.

SPEAKER 03 : 14:58

And especially the card that God’s love for you. You really need God’s love right now, Cecilia, because you don’t feel like your husband loves you. And I’ll tell you, I’ll tell you, if Darren didn’t love me, I would have to really get heavy duty on God. You love me. And Isaiah 54 says he is your husband right now when your husband is deserting you with affection and from covering you really as a husband should cover you. You can call upon God upon God to be your husband. And also the card on communion, I believe that’s card number 41. When you go into your time in the morning, I would take communion. I really would. I’d get grape juice and crackers, whatever you have, and I’d take three or four crackers and thank Jesus that his blood covers me and take his blood in, take his body in, because right now you need that edification. And do you have a prayer language? Do you speak in tongues? Yes. Yeah, I do. Okay, that’s going to edify you. And Darren’s been teaching how in Jude 20, that edifies you. That builds you up, Cecilia. So when you go in to pray, I would just pray in tongues. That half hour you prayed, just really go off in tongues.

SPEAKER 02 : 16:08

I’ll tell you, let’s pray. And we’re going to send you that series on tongues. And it’s really a key to power.

SPEAKER 03 : 16:17

And when curses go. Did we send you tape on when curses go, blessings flow?

SPEAKER 04 : 16:21

No, it was the one on adultery. Because I had told you guys that I had committed adultery many, many, many years ago.

SPEAKER 03 : 16:27

Well, we will send you the one on curses, too.

SPEAKER 02 : 16:29

Well, you know, Cecilia, a lot of people have committed adultery and they don’t admit it. And they committed it in their minds. And Jesus said, if you lust after that person over there across the room, you’ve committed adultery in your heart.

SPEAKER 04 : 16:42

Well, you know, I kind of think that my husband did, too, because I found a box of condoms in it.

SPEAKER 03 : 16:47

Well, there’s a lot of distrust here, so we’re going to have to ask God to take care of it.

SPEAKER 02 : 16:56

You ready? Thank you, Lord. Father God, first of all, we bind that spirit of mockery and blasphemy that’s operating in this household and jealousy and impurity and distrust and dishonesty. And Lord, I pray right now that we lose a spirit of love, love from Father God through Jesus Christ here to Cecilia. And Father, I pray and ask that she’s making a new commitment today to renew her mind in the word that she would keep that commitment. And Lord, we know the word works that when her mind is renewed, her habit patterns will be renewed and she will act different. And I, Lord, ask you to pull all the junk out of her heart. All that stuff, those old habit patterns that cause her to blow her stack and to say and do things that are not like a Christian should say and do. And Lord, I thank you that you’re taking that away and giving her great hope. Thank you that the word is her answer. In Jesus’ name, amen.

SPEAKER 03 : 17:48

Amen.

SPEAKER 02 : 17:49

Cecilia, hang on. We’ll get your dress here.

SPEAKER 04 : 17:51

Okay, I just want to say one more thing. You know that I’ve never seen this before, but Sin makes things ugly, and we pay a big price for it.

SPEAKER 03 : 18:01

Absolutely. And it’s not worth it. It’s not worth it.

SPEAKER 02 : 18:04

Well, the devil’s at the top of the ugly pile. You’ve got to remember that.

SPEAKER 03 : 18:07

And Cecilia, your situation is not too difficult for God. Remember that. Jeremiah 32, 17. Nothing is too difficult for God. So remember that. We love you. Okay. We really do. We’ll be praying for you. Thank you.

SPEAKER 02 : 18:20

God bless. Hang on. We’ll get your address here. Let’s go to line two. Colleen, how are you doing?

SPEAKER 06 : 18:26

Good. How are you?

SPEAKER 02 : 18:27

Good.

SPEAKER 06 : 18:28

What I’m calling about is I’ve had a really, really hard summer. We had lost a baby, a stillborn baby.

SPEAKER 02 : 18:36

Was this your baby? Uh-huh. You were carrying it?

SPEAKER 06 : 18:39

Okay.

SPEAKER 02 : 18:40

Did you want the baby?

SPEAKER 06 : 18:41

Well, it was a surprise, but as I got into the pregnancy, I was getting excited.

SPEAKER 02 : 18:47

Oh, sure.

SPEAKER 06 : 18:48

And really excited. You know, looking forward to it. And I found out it was a little girl. I got to see her a month before she died. But that was really hard. My son, who’s 17, left home under bad terms. I’m divorced, but I’m remarried. So he left. And then my husband ended up, he’s been a smoker for years, and they found a lump in his throat, and he had surgery. And he’s okay, but everything was fine, and my little girl’s gotten sick recently.

SPEAKER 02 : 19:16

How old is your little girl?

SPEAKER 06 : 19:18

She’s four, almost four.

SPEAKER 02 : 19:20

So the boy’s 17 and the girl’s four?

SPEAKER 03 : 19:22

And a two-year-old, too. Okay, so the 17-year-old is from another man? Yes, from my first marriage. Okay, and the two- and four-year-old are from your other husband.

SPEAKER 02 : 19:30

Have we talked to you before, Colby? No. Okay, all right.

SPEAKER 06 : 19:34

But anyway, the Lord’s been really gracious to me this summer and has taken me through this with amazing strength and power like I’d never even imagined. I can’t even, looking back over what I’ve had go through this summer, I can’t believe that I’m where I’m at now. So I’ve had a lot of good support and I’m from a good church and I’m really thankful for the prayer support I’ve had. But my question now is this. Because of all these things I’ve come out of, and God has given us victory, I feel like he’s calling me into it. Well, I feel like one of the callings of my life is intercessory prayer. So I’ve been getting into a new level of that, like I never have before. But there are things that are happening.

SPEAKER 02 : 20:19

Let me ask you a quick question before we go on here. Does your husband profess to be a Christian?

SPEAKER 06 : 20:25

Yes, he is a Christian. He’s in a different… place in time with that right now because of some other issues in his life but yes he is a christian but we don’t pray together but um anyway so i’ve been doing a lot of intercessory prayer for a lot of different things i feel like the lord’s calling me to pray about but there’s been some really terrifying things that are i mean things that if i told other people they probably wouldn’t believe me just a minute before i answer your question here what do you mean your husband’s at a different place in time He’s probably not walking with the Lord in total obedience, put it that way. I mean, he loves the Lord, and he goes to church with me, and I know he has accepted the Lord as his Savior, but I just see maybe a lukewarm…

SPEAKER 02 : 21:15

warmness about him at this point in time but he’s speaking i mean i can see that you know let me say this to you your husband should be the spiritual covering in the home and a lot of people say i want to be an intercessor i think i ought to be an intercessor yeah when you get involved in the spirit world the spiritual realities and that covering isn’t isn’t intact and in place and where it should be spiritually do you do you have your radio on yes okay could you turn it off

SPEAKER 06 : 21:40

Oh, I don’t have it. I’m in a different room. I mean, I’m not where it’s near me. I’m in a room that has, it’s my son’s room. It’s just echoing from it.

SPEAKER 02 : 21:47

That’s fine. Okay. When that spiritual covering isn’t like it should be, then Satan has an extra shot at you. He can get to you more easily. And it’s kind of a dangerous thing to want to be an intercessor because when you start interceding, you’re really taking on the forces of darkness.

SPEAKER 06 : 22:07

So are you saying I should stop this then?

SPEAKER 03 : 22:10

What do you call intercession? What is your definition?

SPEAKER 06 : 22:13

It’s like pleading for God to bring souls into heaven and for binding of forces coming again.

SPEAKER 02 : 22:25

Okay. What else would you be praying for?

SPEAKER 06 : 22:29

I’m getting distracted.

SPEAKER 02 : 22:31

That’s fine.

SPEAKER 06 : 22:31

I didn’t know if she was talking to me or what.

SPEAKER 02 : 22:34

That’s okay. What else besides praying for souls do you pray for?

SPEAKER 06 : 22:38

Well, I can see things that are on people, like spirits, different issues there, and then I will pray for that.

SPEAKER 02 : 22:47

Okay, now what’s an example of something else you’d pray for?

SPEAKER 06 : 22:51

I just pray for bondages to be broke off of people. But I don’t do it in my own strength. I do it in the name of Jesus. I don’t even ask for myself to be binding this. I ask that Jesus binds it.

SPEAKER 02 : 23:01

Okay.

SPEAKER 06 : 23:02

Because I feel fearful of doing it on my own.

SPEAKER 02 : 23:04

Okay, and what else would you pray for?

SPEAKER 06 : 23:07

I just pray for, like, the town we’re in, there’s a lot of oppression here and we have a lot of problems.

SPEAKER 02 : 23:14

Now, where are you calling from?

SPEAKER 06 : 23:15

Fort Morgan.

SPEAKER 02 : 23:16

Okay, now let me give you something here. The reason I kept asking you these, quote, dumb questions. See, we talked about three or four things you’d pray for, but your husband wasn’t mentioned.

SPEAKER 06 : 23:26

Oh, I do pray for him.

SPEAKER 02 : 23:27

Okay.

SPEAKER 06 : 23:28

Yeah, I do pray for him. I just thought that was a given.

SPEAKER 02 : 23:31

Yeah, I do pray for him every day. I’m glad you see that as a given. How do you pray for him?

SPEAKER 06 : 23:34

Yes, I do every day.

SPEAKER 02 : 23:35

No, give me an example. How do you pray for him?

SPEAKER 06 : 23:37

Oh, I just pray for his protection and that God would draw him unto him and give him hunger for him and that, you know, he would… Keep him in the shelter of his presence.

SPEAKER 02 : 23:49

Okay, let me suggest this, Colleen. Why don’t you start blessing your husband with what God wants him to have? God would, for example, want him to have a thirst for righteousness. Matthew 5, 6, yes. And joyful.

SPEAKER 06 : 24:05

I’m hearing three different voices, so I’m sorry I didn’t hear what you said.

SPEAKER 02 : 24:09

That’s fine.

SPEAKER 03 : 24:10

Are you on a party line?

SPEAKER 06 : 24:11

No.

SPEAKER 03 : 24:12

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER 02 : 24:14

Well, let me tell you, a spirit of intercession can come on a person. I don’t think you can choose to go and be, for example… What? I think we’ve got a cross line here somewhere.

SPEAKER 03 : 24:29

John, is there somebody on the other line that’s coming in?

SPEAKER 02 : 24:32

John, if you want to terminate line three, we’re not going to have time for that one. If you’ll tell them to call back on Monday, I’d appreciate that. I think we’ve got a little engineering problem here, Colleen. I apologize.

SPEAKER 06 : 24:42

That’s right. I was just getting real confused. Yes, we were too.

SPEAKER 03 : 24:45

We thought you had a whole party there. No, no.

SPEAKER 02 : 24:47

We’ve got a new phone system.

SPEAKER 05 : 24:49

We want to hear what you have to say.

SPEAKER 02 : 24:50

We’ve got a new phone system and it’s all working out. But I’ll tell you what I would recommend that you do is start blessing your husband with a thirst for righteousness, a desire for the word. In other words, it’s like God, we want you to salt his tongue with a desire for a deeper walk with you.

SPEAKER 03 : 25:08

Also, I want to say that just to be an intercessor, to have a title, a spiritual title of something or other, is probably the wrong focus. And Colleen, your first focus is on your family. That’s who God gave to you, and you are supposed to be the one who… Praise over your family more than anything else. I think sometimes we enjoy having these titles. Well, what do you do? Well, I’m just a housewife, but I am an intercessor. I mean, we love those titles. Well, you know, Jesus doesn’t give a hoot about titles. And he wants you to be praying right now for your two-year-old, your four-year-old, your 17-year-old. and for yourself and your husband, that that relationship would get to the point where you can both be… See, agreement in a marriage is so important. It is totally important, and that you should be focused on that first of all. And then the world… Well, you know, I do do that.

SPEAKER 06 : 25:59

I do do that.

SPEAKER 03 : 25:59

Well, praise God.

SPEAKER 06 : 26:00

But I do this in addition to it. I mean, that’s where I start first, with my family. And I cover them with the blood, and I pray for all of them and their protection.

SPEAKER 03 : 26:08

And how much time do you spend in the Word every day?

SPEAKER 06 : 26:11

Um… Sometimes maybe 15 minutes, but up to an hour some days.

SPEAKER 03 : 26:18

As an intercessor, I would suggest one to two hours a day. One to two hours? Because as an intercessor, you’re going to have to know the word. You’re going to be speaking the word, not just binding Satan, but speaking the word.

SPEAKER 02 : 26:30

Okay, Colleen, we’re going to have to shut this down because we’re out of time.

SPEAKER 03 : 26:34

We need an hour.

SPEAKER 02 : 26:34

I want to pray for you, and be sure and listen to Monday’s broadcast. We’re going to be talking about some things that relate to you, your household. Yes.

SPEAKER 06 : 26:41

Okay, well, let me ask this one quick question. In concern to praying for other people, is that all right to continue with that in addition with my family, but just to be wise in how I’m doing that, correct?

SPEAKER 05 : 26:51

Yes.

SPEAKER 06 : 26:52

Because I know I’ve seen some things happening around here that I know are not good. I mean, like spiritual forces, I can see things going on that has really kind of frightened me a couple times.

SPEAKER 02 : 27:04

Okay, listen, we’ve got to go, but you be listening on Monday, okay? Okay. God bless. We love you. Thank you.

SPEAKER 03 : 27:10

I hope that you have gained some real revelation knowledge and insight into what spirits may be motivating you to do what you do. Jesus provides such great answers to take care of old habit patterns that seem to crop up from time to time. In Jesus’ mighty name, I say that you are no longer nagged with those harassing spirits anymore. And until the next time on Call to Freedom, God bless you and keep you.

SPEAKER 01 : 27:31

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