In this powerful episode, Chrysandra Brunson sits down with Claire Ferry, a southern belle with a heart for change, to explore the transformative power of faith and neurofeedback. Claire shares her journey from facing personal childhood trauma to becoming a beacon of hope for others, particularly moms, through her brain mapping and neurofeedback clinic. Dive deep into Claire’s story of overcoming adversity and learn how God has woven his plan through every step of her life. The conversation unveils the intricate details of how trauma impacts the brain and the miraculous neuroplasticity that allows for healing and restoration. Discover
CHRYSANDRA :
Welcome everyone to The Calling’s radio show to all the dreamers. I’m your radio host, Chrysandra Brunson, founder and CEO of The Calling. And it is such an honor to be with all of you today. You know, at The Calling, we have realized that so many people are afraid to go after their God-given dreams. And that is just plain wrong because if God has given you a dream and you’re not living it out, you are wasting it. And we do not want you to die with any regret. That’s why at The Calling, we love to inspire, empower, and equip people after Jesus’ calling on their lives to reap the best kind of eternal legacy possible to have immediate impact on themselves and their families. We love to do this through so many different avenues from custom tools, programs, conferences, events, but especially through this radio show where we bring on world-renowned dreamers that are going after their calling. And today is no exception. You guys are in for the best treat with the dearest of friends and world shakers, the one and only Claire Ferry. Claire, welcome to the show. Thank you. Claire, this is such an honor. And, you know, I just am so grateful that we have some southerness in studio with us. And I really think that you are the epitome of a beautiful southern belle, just so gorgeous inside and out and living out your God given dreams. Claire, can you just share a couple of your the current leadership roles that you are in right now? OK, wife, mom.
CLAIRE FERRY :
yes and i own and operate a brain mapping and neurofeedback clinic and you need to say that one more time claire because i cannot wait for the world to be able to dive into this realm say it one more time wife mom and i own and operate a brain mapping and neurofeedback clinic yes that’s so powerful and
CHRYSANDRA :
And Claire, we can’t wait to hear how you got into that and how God led you to that. But you’re also, you said a wife and a mom and you and your family have been so near and dear to the calling and I. And you just had this incredible gala that just happened with the Lions Project. Do you want to just speak on that real quick? What happened and what people missed out on? And if they didn’t come this year, they need to come next year.
CLAIRE FERRY :
Yes. So my husband started a nonprofit called the Lion Project about 13 years ago. And every few years they have a different mission. But currently their mission is to eradicate food insecurity in the Denver city, in the community of Denver. And hopefully this mission will reach beyond Denver after 2020. We get it going here. But this past Saturday, we had a gala. About 200 people came. It was at the Four Seasons in Denver. They have a gala every year to try to fundraise money for the mission that they’re doing. Yeah, so many people came out. The theme was circus. It was a lot of fun. Yes. A lot of red outfits were going on, and some very beautiful peacock dresses were there. Oh, yes.
CHRYSANDRA :
We got some peacock feathers.
CLAIRE FERRY :
That’s right.
CHRYSANDRA :
I was wearing one of them. It was. Well, it was so beautiful. And you guys did phenomenal, Claire. So just want to congratulate all of your guys’s efforts. I know that, you know, when something like that goes on, it is truly it’s a whole family army event. And it was spectacular and such an incredible initiative for all of us to be a part of. So Claire, just going back into your calling and how you’ve been able to go after it with neural mapping, will you just share when you were a little girl, how did you, can you look back and see how God was threading in your heart that this is what you were supposed to be doing today?
CLAIRE FERRY :
Yeah, well… looking back more on childhood honestly i grew up in a pretty traumatic childhood i don’t have a ton of memories of childhood but i know that like god certainly has used all of the trauma that i went through in my story to lead me to where i am right now and helping so many other people that have been through trauma in their childhood and just any point of their life and a lot of times People don’t even recognize trauma for what it is because it wasn’t this like capital T trauma where they’re like raped and beat up in a dark alley. Right. But pretty much everyone that’s lived life and is a product of imperfect humans like we’ve all experienced trauma. So I think more than anything, God’s just incredible. use my story to get me to where I am now and really be able to pour into and help other people that also have a story.
CHRYSANDRA :
Oh, that is so powerful. And I think hearing that, Claire, we’re just reminded of different situations that we have walked through and what how how much of a gift this would be to our souls. When you say that you may not even recognize trauma, how does trauma even look? How do you recognize it?
CLAIRE FERRY :
Well, trauma really by definition is like any time that you experience a sense of powerlessness. So for children, I mean, growing up with, for me, my parents divorced when I was two years old. And there was just like, they both tried really hard, but there was alcoholism and a lot of divorce and separation and step parents and step siblings and just a lot of things where they A lot of things where they really just kind of missed the mark. And it was really a product of like their own brokenness. Anyway, I think when I’m like consulting with people and I’m asking them if they’ve ever experienced trauma, a lot of the times I’ll get, well, no, but my mom was really emotionally abusive and my dad drank and they were divorced. And I’m like, well, okay, that was in your childhood and we haven’t even talked about it. Any other parts of your life like you were experiencing a lot of trauma then. And in terms of how it kind of disperses on the brain, it can look a lot of different ways. But I see a lot of like sleep issues, anxiety, depression, memory, like memory loss. Yeah.
CHRYSANDRA :
Well, I can’t wait. I know, Claire, that I have a session coming up, and I’m so excited for it. Because just recognizing that there’s so many things that I don’t even know that’s within me that could be trapped within my brain. And so, Claire, when you were on this discovery as a little girl, take us through your elementary, middle, and high school years of… of realizing that this was something that you could help people with?
CLAIRE FERRY :
Honestly, I didn’t really realize any of this then. What really was like a turning point for me is actually 10 years ago when I became a mom. I have four children. The oldest is 10.
CHRYSANDRA :
You would never know this, you guys. Claire, you look like you’re 20. Thank you.
CLAIRE FERRY :
It’s the frownies I wear at night for frownies. um i need to get some yeah um anyway yeah so i became a mom 10 years ago and honestly like i i never even really realized that i was stressed out or exhausted until i became a mom it really brought with it this level of anxiety and exhaustion that i’d never experienced before um and that really began my story of um Just healing. And that’s kind of where this like calling and passion on my life. And I could go into like a lot of details on my story and motherhood and. Yeah.
CHRYSANDRA :
Maybe just a little like a summary version of motherhood. What it was.
CLAIRE FERRY :
Yeah. So my. Pregnancy was hard. Birth was hard. When our son was two months old, we found out that he had a really big hole in his heart and he would need open heart surgery. So that felt really hard and crazy as a first time mom. I also wasn’t sleeping at all, like about six months. And I remember really feeling suicidal because I was so exhausted from not sleeping. And just it brought that alone can bring a lot of anxiety. seizures and epilepsy diagnosis he has ADHD he was very challenging behaviorally at home I mean he would just like just have crazy meltdown and tantrums. And I was battling my own anxiety and sleep issues. This was about when he was like five or six years old. And so that led me to discover neurofeedback where I did this treatment myself and we did it with my son. And God used that experience. I was a nurse for 11 years prior to that, prior to starting this business. And God just used that experience to really propel me into starting my own clinic so that I could help. Really, mom, I mean, anybody can benefit from neurofeedback, but moms, kids, families, I would say, like, at the heart of who I am and is really, like, who I’m super passionate about.
CHRYSANDRA :
Woo! Claire! and just to know that you’ve had this backdrop clinically in the nursing realm and I have a whole bunch of family that are they’re serving as nurses and just helping humanity in that way and know that it is such there’s so much pressure that goes into that even my sister and aunt and cousin and Would you just share what kind of nurse you were and what you saw while serving in that role?
CLAIRE FERRY :
Yeah, I did labor and delivery for several years. And then anticipating our son needing open heart surgery, I went into work as a pediatric intensive care unit nurse. So I did that for like four years. And then I worked in a women’s health clinic for several years. And it was great. In the women’s health clinic, like we would have so many moms, especially like, you know, newly postpartum moms call in and they would be just having really going through what I myself had been through. So I really love to get those not love to get those calls. I hated that they were going through this, but I felt like I had so much purpose on those calls of really like. sharing my own experience with them making them feel really seen and cared for and like they were not alone because so many moms go through this and it’s not something that you’re really proud of a lot of times you’re not like in love with your baby like you might think you would be you feel a lot of shame and guilt as a mom that starts like a lot of times right out of the chute for me it did like night one of bringing our son home so I just think as a nurse, I really did see a lack of resources for mental health for these people. They would call, and our option is to send them to a crisis center, which they weren’t always in that type of need of a situation. Yeah.
CHRYSANDRA :
Wow. Well, and then, Claire, so for God to have you in this this whole realm of nursing, especially with children, and then for you yourself to have to go through so much trauma with your children and as a mother that you would have never known would come on. And it just was brought to you. And now to be able to bring hope to the next generation is just amazing. It’s so powerful. And we had to take a short break. But you guys, we have the one and only Claire Ferry on with us, sharing about how she’s going after her God-given calling and how you can do the same. Stay tuned. Hi guys, this is Chrysandra Brunson, host of To All The Dreamers. I am so happy to introduce personal training, nutritional guidance, and behavioral change coaching. Healthy, happy, and heavenly for your wellness, spirit, soul, and body. Contact Mimi Kroger at healthyhappyandheavenly.com.
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CHRYSANDRA :
We are back. Thank you for listening to all the dreamers radio show. I’m your host, Dr. Chrysandra Brunson. And we are so honored to be in studio live with the one and only Claire Ferry. And Claire, you are just touching our hearts so deeply with. your personal experience, being able to go after what God’s called you to through the worst of circumstances and seeing such a huge need for neurofeedback. And will you just, so on this journey of being a mom and then seeing it with so many other families and parents, and then just knowing that that’s not even the spectrum, it’s most of humanity that needs this service. What is it exactly when you talk about neurofeedback?
CLAIRE FERRY :
Yes. So neurofeedback is a form of biofeedback. And we essentially help the brain. We retrain the electrical activity of the brain by creating new neural pathways. it’s totally holistic no medication required it’s non-invasive and my company is called vital brain performance clinic and we actually specialize in remote neurofeedback so we send clinical grade equipment to you to your house so you can do the sessions on your own schedule without having to drive into a clinic really schedule appointments yeah um
CHRYSANDRA :
And so, Claire, do you do that daily or how often do you recommend people doing that?
CLAIRE FERRY :
Yeah. So most people would want to train two to three sessions per week and each session is 30 minutes long.
CHRYSANDRA :
Oh, my goodness. Well, I can’t wait for my session coming up here in just a little bit. And everyone that I have talked to has had their lives be completely transformed. And that happened for you personally, Claire, and for your son. Yeah.
CLAIRE FERRY :
Yeah, you mentioned the word hope earlier when you were talking and I specifically remember a night and I had our fourth child was a baby at the time. I wasn’t really sleeping. I had really a ton of anxiety. Our oldest was six and he would just have these crazy meltdowns like go from zero to 100 out of nowhere. And he and I were like fire and gasoline. I mean, he would like trigger me, I would trigger him. It was just like bombs going off all the time, like total chaos. I remember one night on the landing upstairs, he just had like this crazy meltdown. And I felt, and my husband too, like we felt so hopeless in that moment because as a mom and parents, like you love your kids so much, you literally would do anything for them. And when you don’t know what to do to help them like it feels so hopeless. I’ve been on medication before for anxiety. But I reached out to a friend of mine who owns a neurofeedback clinic. And she was like, Claire, you have to do neurofeedback because I’m like, I’m not going back on medication. I’m not putting my son on medication. Um, so honestly, I didn’t really know what it was. I didn’t really understand the science behind it, but I was so desperate. I was just like, absolutely. Like, when can we start? Let’s do it. So it was really through that experience that hope was really restored in my family again. neurofeedback served, I mean, there’s a lot, it’s really a piece of the puzzle, but it served as like a beacon of hope for our family and really was a game changer for me as a mom and for my son and his behavioral issues. I mean, I would lay in bed at night And I wouldn’t be able to fall asleep for hours just replaying the day and so much guilt and shame and my mind was just spinning and like I would want to go wake my oldest especially up and like apologize and ask for forgiveness and just like start the day over again. And that was like kind of this cycle we were in like night after night after night until honestly, we started doing neurofeedback. So
CHRYSANDRA :
Oh my goodness. It seems like the mirror, like it’s such a powerful miracle. And so you are sharing that scientifically it creates new neural pathways in our brain and for us to be able to process information. And I mean, Claire, give us the science behind our brains, just a little bit of what’s going on in there and how does trauma get trapped? Yeah.
CLAIRE FERRY :
Yeah. So, I mean, God created our brains with a term called neuroplasticity. So our brains have the ability to change and neural pathways are like if you’re you and your friends are going on a hike, there’s a lot of like already well-worn pathways that you take to to get to a certain destination on the hike. But say that pathway continually leads to symptoms of anxiety, chaos, depression, overwhelm. So neurofeedback actually creates new pathways pathways on the hike, new pathways on the journey that lead to like calm, relaxation, peace, focus, sleep. I mean, all of these things that we are able to restore in the brain, which is honestly like how God created our brain to begin with. Like we were not created to live in in overwhelm anxiety constant fear worry chaos like that is not how god designed us so we’re just trying to like really help restore the way god created us to be in to begin with
CHRYSANDRA :
I don’t know about everyone else tuning in, and I think you’re just like me, but it’s like, we’re all on board, Claire. We want to be part of it. And we’re going to share a little bit more towards the end of our show, how we can all get involved and be a part of this incredible movement, knowing that being our best selves is the best gift we can give God and to everyone that we love. Claire, how have you been able to overcome though the different challenges and the giants in these different seasons of the highs and the lows and just trusting Jesus throughout it?
CLAIRE FERRY :
Yeah, I mean, I would say, I mean, I can truly, I think with 100% certainty say, and God correct me if I’m wrong, but I truly feel like I’m in a place of like total surrender to Jesus. Like I just want to be obedient to literally God. Everything he set before me, even you inviting me to come here today. And I wasn’t necessarily prepared, but I’m like, God, if you like put this in my path, I’m stepping into it.
CHRYSANDRA :
Yeah.
CLAIRE FERRY :
And just trusting that you’ll be there and speak through me. But just total surrender and obedience and trust and faith and like just everything. Anytime that I might worry about something with my business, it’s like, nope, turn on worship music, start praying. God, you’ve got this. You’ve already gone before me. There’s so much evidence and fruit of God and his hand in so much more than just my business.
CHRYSANDRA :
Right.
CLAIRE FERRY :
I’m thinking about my business. Yeah.
CHRYSANDRA :
Well, because it is it’s something that he’s called you to. So it is an act of worship to trust him in that. And Claire, how did you get to that heart posture of wholehearted surrender? Because when we talk about living fearlessly for Jesus, it’s an act of surrender and of just this holy faith. if you will uh how did you how have you continued to be in that heart posture of wholehearted surrender because um anyone that knows you knows that too just like such a vibrant spotlight of holiness and I think it’s just of of heaven coming down
CLAIRE FERRY :
Thank you, that’s such a compliment. Yeah, I think just so much experience, life experience, and just like looking back on the evidence, like God, no matter what it feels like in the moment, I mean, you get through it. God gets you through it. And then looking back and like God always shows up. He always goes before me like and he’s just always there. Like there’s so much evidence of his presence. Yeah. And as a mom, like I know that I see more of the big picture for my children. They might not know why I say no to a certain thing that they want to do. But like because I know the consequences of what that might the action could, you know, be yeah could be and so I think that’s given me a different lens of like my heavenly father because I mean I grew up with an earthly father that really loves me but he’s very imperfect and I think a lot of times especially as women we can really like view our heavenly father as our earthly father but they’re not the same God’s perfect in our anyway um Sorry.
CHRYSANDRA :
No, no, no. It’s it’s so you are right on target, Claire. And, you know, I think that the yeah, the act of surrender and you living that out and all avenue, it’s like almost like this deck of cards that I see. And just of you living out your calling as a wife and as a mom and through running this incredible business that’s changing lives.
CLAIRE FERRY :
I was just going to say, just trusting that, like, as the example of being a mom, I just, I just trust that God, I know that God knows, like, he wants absolutely the best for me. He knows the purpose in calling and gifts he’s put on my life. And he wants me to walk in that. So if I’m not surrendering and being obedient, I’m not fully walking in my purpose. And I think it’s taken me to like I’m 37 years old now of like God gave me very specific gifts. He wired me in a really specific way. I can just be exactly who he made me to be. Yeah. And I’m the only Claire like. Yeah. No one else is me. I don’t have to try to be like anybody else. I don’t have to raise my kids like anybody else. I don’t really have to answer to anybody else other than God and trying to be in alignment with my husband as best as humanly possible. And then like on it in a daily act of just like. waking up in the morning before my children and really spending time with God. And I journal my prayers because I just feel like that helps me connect the most with the Lord and even being able to look back on all the prayers that he’s answered.
CHRYSANDRA :
Oh, Claire, it’s so powerful. And we’re coming up towards the end of our show. But we need to ask you a couple of questions. First, there’s someone listening right now. several people that are, they need that act of courage just inside their hearts of knowing how do they take that next step and how do they move forward? What would you tell them to do? Just as trusting Jesus is calling on their lives. How would you what what piece of wisdom would you tell them?
CLAIRE FERRY :
Yeah, I just think like daily and multiple times a day, moment by moment. I mean, I just even get on my knees and like put my hands out and surrender situations, moments to the Lord. There’s so many. The enemy is like. truly out to kill, steal and destroy. Like he is after our mind. And that’s another powerful thing. Like if we can, through neurofeedback, we can really help calm the brain and restore it back to like how God created us to be, as I mentioned. Yes. So just to know and like be aware and be like ready for battle, like the enemies after your mind. Wow. So to just be able to take control of that and get it back.
CHRYSANDRA :
Yes. And Claire, so how can we all get involved in your incredible company knowing that we do need it? And give us the website and the next steps.
CLAIRE FERRY :
So the website is VitalBrain.com. Instagram is VitalBrain underscore performance clinic.
CHRYSANDRA :
I’ll say that one more time just so our listeners… I challenge you guys all to pull over to be able to write this down right now. But what is it again?
CLAIRE FERRY :
The website is vitalbrain.com. And since I have an accent, I can spell it V as in Victor. I-T-A-L brain.com. And the Instagram handle is vitalbrain underscore performance clinic. You can offer free discovery calls. So… You can reach me through Instagram or our website.
CHRYSANDRA :
And Claire, this is something that people, they can come visit you personally, but also you can send them the equipment.
CLAIRE FERRY :
Yeah, so I train people all over the U.S. So I have clients in all different states. So there’s really no barrier to be able to work with me to do remote neurofeedback.
CHRYSANDRA :
You guys, you have to do it today. And you’re listening to this for a reason. For you, for someone that you love to get involved, we want you guys to be able to plug in with one of my dearest of friends and just heroines in the faith, Claire. Just look up to you so much. So you guys go plug in, figure out what your calling is. Ask Jesus what you would do if you knew you couldn’t fail. He’s going to answer back what that is. And today, this moment is the time to live it out. Till next time, dreamer. Keep dreaming big.