On this episode of The Kim Monson Show, Kim dives deep into the growing clash between technology and freedom. From AI surveillance in schools and “facial recognition for safety” to red-light cameras and government overreach, she and guest Mike Rollick expose how convenience is slowly conditioning Americans to surrender privacy. Later, Kim speaks with USMC Memorial Foundation President Paula Sarles about honoring veterans and the true meaning of Veterans Day, and with farmer and rancher Trent Luce on SNAP benefits, John Deere’s corporate drift, and how dependency feeds chaos. It’s a hard-hitting discussion about freedom versus force—rooted in the
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They did a really good job regarding surveys, asking questions, important questions for parental rights. And so you can use that as a great tool. I live in Douglas County and people are asking me who I’m recommending. I’m recommending Gamble, Kramer, Smith and Vail. And I think they’re called the common sense candidates. But that is Gamble, Kramer, Smith, and Vail. And so I would highly recommend that you check that out. We want you to be informed voters, not influenced voters. The consultants on both sides of the aisle spend a lot of money trying to craft messages to get you to vote for something. And many times, those messages are somewhat convoluted. I guess that’s a nice way of saying it. And so I want you to really think about these issues and understand them. Right now, these tax questions, really, we do not need to take on any new debt. And so if you’re being asked to tax increases, Jenny has mentioned up in Wellington that they are asking, the fire district is asking for a tax increase there. I think it’s a sales tax increase. That makes life less affordable. And all of these fire districts, they got a bump in their revenue when they And our property taxes went up because of higher assessed valuations. And so I got a text message. I live in the South Metro Fire District. And of course, we all really appreciate our firefighters. However, I drive by on a regular basis, a brand new fire station that is all brick and And it makes me think that we’re spending a lot in taxes on that. So we care about our firefighters for sure. But two things that I think is disingenuous. First of all, well, I was talking with some neighbors about it the other night. I got a text message that said that South Metro Fire Protection had not asked for a tax increase for many years. And technically that is true. But the real question is, is was there a revenue increase? And I’ve not done the analysis, but I’ve got to think with higher and higher property taxes that they got a bump on that. But the other thing is, is they are detabering or asking to detabor or debruce. And D. Bruce is named after Douglas Bruce, who was the architect with others of Tabor, Colorado’s Taxpayers Bill of Rights. But what they’re asking is for a $50 million annual tax increase. But then if they collect more taxes from us than $50 million, they’re asking to keep it all. And I think a lot of people don’t realize that. And I think that that that is greedy. And so I’m saying no on that. So, again, we talk about the national debt and we’re so concerned about that. But then it seems like we we vote ourselves into all kinds of debt at the local, the county and the state level. And so we really need to be very thoughtful about that. So hopefully the the voters guide will be helpful for you on that as well. Our word of the day is ephemeral. It’s spelled E-P-H-E-M-E-R-A-L. It could be lasting for a markedly brief time. And they have an example. This is from the American Heritage Dictionary. There remains some truth to ephemeral to be captured in the cold pages of a court transcript. And then number two, having a short lifespan or short annual period of above ground growth used especially regarding plants. So your word today is ephemeral to use in a sentence. And you should be able to do that. And the next thing, our quote of the day, I went to Sir Isaac Newton. He was born in 1643. He died in 1727. He was an English polymath active as a mathematician, physicist, astronomer, alchemist, theologian, author, and inventor. He was a key figure in the scientific revolution and the enlightenment that followed. And he achieved great unification in physics and established classical mechanics. And he also made contributions to optics and shares credit with German mathematician Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz for formulating an infinitesimal calculus, though he developed calculus years before. So this is what he said, though. He says, live your life as an exclamation rather than an explanation. And that is Sir Isaac Newton. Regarding headlines, first of all, we had a question regarding SNAP benefits. And I hadn’t really thought about this, but if SNAP benefits do stop on November 1st, and Gammy mentioned this, things could get kind of rough out there because there’s a lot of people at this time that are dependent on SNAP. SNAP benefits for food. And while I think Abraham Lincoln said something along this line, that we should not do for others what they can really do for themselves. But what has happened is many people have been encouraged and become dependent on government programs. So we need to wean ourselves off of that. But I think that if we just stop them on one day, I think Gammy’s right. I But I think it was Holly that texted me and she wanted to know what SNAP benefits we have per person. So I found this on the USDA website. And in May of 2024, Let’s see, there were 588,000 Coloradans who were on SNAP benefits, and that moved up to 614,000, almost 615,000 in May of 2025. Then it looks to me like we pay out just a little over $120 million per month in Colorado for SNAP benefits, which that works out to $195 billion. and 98 cents per person. So I’m wondering if there’s a household of, say, four, if they’re receiving $800 or close to $800 a month in SNAP benefits. That is certainly significant. And we do need to, I think, wean ourselves off of this and get back to where people are earning their You know, they’re living. But I think I think he’s right. I think it could get really rough if it just cold turkey just stopped. And so we need to really, I think, be watching that and see what happens with that. We are changing things up a little bit on the show today. I was trying to get Paige Hauser on from the Center for Renewing America yesterday. And they’re very busy in Washington, D.C. And I just was not able to get that confirmed. So we’re working things around a little bit. I’m hoping that Mike Rolick might be able to give us another segment because he always has so much to say and we normally run out of time. So stay tuned. This first hour will be interesting. And hold on. I’m sure there will be all kinds of great information. I’m going to get to see her later today. And that’s my good friend Susan Harris. And I thank her and her family. for their gold sponsorship of the show. And it’s because of all of our sponsors and because of all of you that our independent voice is on the air. I do purchase my airtime and that is why we are independent. So next thing, next headline, and this is a really important one. And this is regarding this auto pin of Joe Biden. And it’s rather remarkable that this has happened in our country. But Representative Jim Jordan said to Newsmax that the Biden auto pin orders raise red flags. And I think that that is absolutely the case because he was signing things that obviously he didn’t know he was signing. So this is from Newsmax says House Judiciary Committee Chair Jim Jordan, Republican from Ohio, told Newsmax yesterday that findings from the House Oversight Committee suggest some of former President Joe Biden’s executive orders and clemency decisions via auto pin may have been issued without his direct involvement. Jordan said hours after the oversight panel issued a 91-page report that called on the Justice Department to investigate every executive action taken during the Biden administration. Here’s the bottom line, Jordan said. The country knew, certainly in June of 2020, that debate with Donald Trump, that President Biden just was not up to the task. So any signature that takes place after that fact with the auto pin, I think, is of real concern. And so with this, on top of the conversation we had with Kevin Lumberg yesterday regarding White House Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt basically accusing Obama of seditious conspiracy, things are going to get very interesting here in our country. So we need to pray. We need to continue to work. And that’s what we will do here at the Kim Monson Show. We have all these important discussions because of our sponsors. And the Roger Mangan Insurance Team, well, Roger’s been in business for over 50 years, taking good care of his clients and his family and giving back to the community. And give them a call for a complimentary appointment to go over your insurance coverage so that you have what you need. And that number is 303-795-8855. 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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. And sign up for our weekly email newsletter there and download the Voter’s Guide. We hope that that’ll be a great tool as you are looking at the two statewide issues, which are titled Healthy School Meals for All Children, which actually a lot of that money will be going into PBIs, politicians, bureaucrats and interested parties’ pockets. And so really recommending a no vote on that. And how I say that is those are based to refer back to Proposition FF, which was passed by the people of Colorado in 2022. And that set up five new bureaucracies. And those bureaucracies have to have money. and they will get paid before any school meal gets on to some child. And there are also a number of other programs to feed children. One of those is the federal school lunch program, so I’m highly recommending a no on that. And then no on all the new debt for Denver as well. But you can download that at KimMonson.com. Just click on that red button. banner at the top and put in your name and your email and you will get a link for that and then also for all the school board questions you can go to transform colorado.org there’s survey answers there which will be very helpful and i am recommending in douglas county gamble kramer smith and vale on the line with us is um mike rollick he is with the ralston valley coalition he’s also a great citizen watchdog mike rollick welcome to the show
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Kim, good morning. How’s it going?
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It is going well, and there’s a lot going on out there. I mentioned school boards, but you’ve looked into a lot of AI regarding school boards, schools. What have you found out?
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Well… AI is here for better or for worse, and I’m interested to see how this is evolving the school board’s purview, the school board’s role. Not only AI in the classroom, I was looking into companies like Magic Board, and they have some interesting products, but also on the facial recognition side and the object recognition side as well. And just to kind of frame what I’m thinking about here, I don’t know. if people had seen this story about this poor kid out in Baltimore getting flagged by an AI gun detection system at a school when he only had a Doritos bag. And according to the stories that I’m seeing, the general eyewitness news type stories here on Channel 7, they had several cop cars show up. They put this kid on the ground. And, you know, his statement is that they can get on my knees, put my hands behind my back and cuff me. And, you know, obviously he only had chips. So nothing came of this. Thank God there was no issues like he tried to run or reach for a wallet or cell phone. at night because this is at night, you know, so a lot of things can happen. Uh, you know, we, we all respect our, our, our police, obviously they’re in a very precarious and dangerous situation when they’re showing up to a call like this as well as, as, as the kid who might panic and, and reach for a phone. Um, and then things go sideways, very wrong, very fatal. Um, But all this happened because of an AI gun detector product that got it wrong. And that’s kind of a scary system to me. I was looking into the company. They’re supposed to have a human in the loop. And then that human in the loop would detect any false or positives that come out of this AI system and then pass that along. But what’s a curious statement here. It was said by the company, while this object was later determined not to be a firearm, the process functioned as intended, which is very curious, to prioritize safety and awareness through rapid human verification. And that sounds like anything but. Why does this matter here? We had a ban on facial recognition technology in this state until this year. And that ban got turned to a partial ban via Senate Bill 25-143 signed into law earlier this year. I don’t know if we had talked about this earlier, but this really kind of comes into play as you’re looking at this current election.
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How so?
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Well, Senate Bill 25-143. will allow for the analysis of facial recognition features for educational purposes in conjunction with the curricula approved by the local school board, number one. So that means facial recognition techniques in the classroom. Or in Section D, you can have a contract with a school service contract provider for the purchase of a product, device, or software application that allows for the analysis of facial features under certain security situations. A, a school official or law enforcement officer makes a determination that an individual whose facial imaging has been obtained has made an articulable and significant threat against the school or the occupants of the school, and the use of facial recognition technology may assist in keeping the school and occupant safe. Or, this is interesting, if you cut class, a student absconds from a school class, event, or program, or is otherwise reported as lost or missing by students, parents, teachers, or school officials, and then there is a reasonable belief that using facial recognition technology may assist in finding the lost student based on data that can indicate the student’s presence, location, or movements within or around the school grounds. And then if an individual has been ordered by the court to stay off the school property. So these are decisions being made by the school board. This affects charter schools as well. I don’t know if private schools, obviously, since they’re private, I’m sure they can do as they wish. But this will affect charter and regular public schools. And again, this is 25-143. So now you might have a situation where a school board, we normally think about what textbooks, obviously, what kind of reading materials that has come to light lately, where a certain reading material might be a little questionable for the youth. But now we’re also talking about using facial recognition in the classroom and on the school property as a means of security.
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Boy, you know, there’s so much that they hide behind security. And you’ve really uncovered this on all of this surveillance. And as you’re describing this, how does this help kids learn at all? And so the surveillance under the guise of security and maybe and the flock cameras is another thing. They’re putting these in. They say they want to get a criminal or a stolen car. I think the founders realized if we give up our freedom for, air quotes, security, then we are headed towards a very dangerous place, I think, Mike Rollick.
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Yes. How they say this can be used for the betterment, in quotes, is I’ve read stories and there’s some research papers out that they can take facial recognition features and see if a child might have autism or some other learning disorder. However, Even in China, you know, this is from Lutzker and Lutzker. It’s an attorney article. But it says in China, however, facial recognition technology has been more heavily used in K-12 and university classrooms. These quote-unquote intelligent behavior management systems collect, store, and respond to student facial expressions during lessons. Some of this software has misdiagnosed children by mischaracterizing standalone facial expressions as evidence of social disorders or lack of attention. Due in part to privacy concerns, hundreds of the surveillance channels which livestream camera footage from Chinese classrooms were shut down in 2017. But there are other systems that continue to flourish, and we’ve got some US-based proponents as well. So right there, what you’re seeing is they want to kind of measure what a student’s face is doing during a lesson. and then decide if said student has a potential issue or not. Again, this is very inhuman to me. It’s taken the human completely out of the loop. And now you could have a parent saying, but my student isn’t this. Or maybe they do need the extra help, but because their expression didn’t indicate that, they’re not getting the help. It’s a double-edged sword that way.
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Well, and so, yeah, we have AI that’s mistaken a Dorito bag for a firearm. And I looked at the story as you were mentioning this, and this, to your point, that could have ended badly. And that would have been, just think how the police officers would have felt. And thank God that it didn’t end badly. But how do you change a diagnosis that AI gives on your child? How can that be changed? This is, okay, so let’s bring this back then. So you said that these school board races are really important. Because school boards will be driving these decisions. So it comes back to how important these elections are and that we need to be involved like you are, Mike Rollick. And so these are really important.
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Absolutely. Again, the state law, just for emphasis. It says, allows for analysis of facial features for educational purposes in conjunction with curricula approved by the local school board of a school district. So there really is a lot that the school board is going to be looking at. Not only that, as an aside, we just saw a sale of two schools that were lying dormant because of a lower student population. One was Allendale up in Nevada. It’s going to become 56 homes. The school board last year decided that this is no longer needed. There are parents in the area that are saying another proximate school has temporary buildings that were housing students for classes. So they thought Allendale could be useful as a school asset. And now it’s closed down as well as another one was shut down. And rumor has it they’re looking at several more. to be sold off. Now, on one side, you could say, well, gosh, if you’re maintaining a public asset and it’s right to be sold because we don’t have the student population, well, then sure, take that off your books and get the liquid assets, i.e. cash, to do something. However, from what we had heard during the hearing, it takes about $150,000 to keep that school up and running in like a mothballed state. And they sold the property for about $3.5 million. But conservative estimates to rebuild a school in the current climate would be $60 to $80 million. I was looking at some renovation projects. Just a roof alone on a school in Denver was $15 million. So to save the $150,000 and to make the $3.5 million, but then if the student population changes, if the birth rates change or folks move to the area with kids – then you’re looking at having to replace those assets at quite a cost. So school boards also are involved in the sale or the crown lease, one of the two, because there’s another law this year that got passed where school boards can decide to lease the property for an indefinite amount of years. So, yeah, school boards are doing a lot.
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Yeah, they really are. And so these races are so important. And you can get more information about those races by going to transformcolorado.org. And that should be a very helpful tool for that. Regarding the two statewide issues as well as the Denver debt issues, I did analysis on that. Also included the phone numbers for county clerks. so that you can reach out to your county clerks. Or in the case of a municipal election, reach out to your city clerk to get the contact information for the candidates so you can reach out and talk with them. It is so important to be an informed voter, and that’s one of the things we really work towards here on the Kim Monson Show is to help you know what those issues are. And that happens because of our sponsors. And for everything residential real estate, reach out to Karen Levine.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. And as you know, I have amazing sponsors who strive for excellence. And one of those is Jody Henze with Mint Financial Strategies. And she and her colleagues are hosting an event. It’s It is, let’s see, it’s women and wealth, and they’re bringing the excitement with watercolors, which is a perfect opportunity to build relationships and unwind. It’s going to be Friday, November 7th. Tell you what, with all this news out there, I think unwinding is a good thing. At 5 p.m., it’ll be in the Lone Tree area. And they have just a few spots left. And so reach out to Jody at MintFS.com. That’s Jody, J-O-D-Y at MintFS.com if you would like to RSVP. Mike Rawlings on the line. He is with the Ralston Valley Coalition as well. He’s a citizen watchdog. And One of our listeners said, I’m really pleased that we’re talking about this, and this facial recognition thing is terrible. She sent over a story from KDVR that police used the flock cameras to wrongfully accuse a Denver woman of theft. And this is getting really scary, Mike Rollick.
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It is. It’s interesting because as we’re adding… a synthetic type of intelligence or at least data, you know, data processing into the loop. Just on a broad scale, I’m worried we’re going to lose the right to face our accuser. That’s a constitutional right, right? So who’s accusing us at this point? An AI? Okay, they have a human in the loop that’s supposed to be there. But that human in the loop, again, is not law enforcement either. Some have law enforcement backgrounds, according to some of the company’s websites that I’ve looked at. OK, well, they have a background, but they’re still now a private contractor determining if they want to call me in to the police because my leash for my dog. might be mistaken for something, for instance, or this poor woman in Denver or this poor young kid out in Baltimore just eating Doritos. And then all of a sudden, things could go horribly wrong. How do you face your accuser when you think about the corporate veil? I would I would hope that all of these companies can be looked at in the state actor litmus test and see if we are able to then do FOIA requests, core requests and get more transparency on what they’re doing. And I know the Institute for Justice is looking at the flock cameras as a as a function of the state actor. So I know that that’s Norfolk. the city of Norfolk versus, you know, these two citizens and Institute for Justice is looking at that. So hopefully we can sort those issues out because you definitely can’t really talk to the human in the loop who decides or the AI who decided that you are a criminal and the police must be called. You don’t get to really bring them into court and, you know, have them testify for or against their actions either. So it’s kind of an interesting situation. A little further into this, bill that got passed. And when I testified virtually at the state during the committee hearing for this, the ACLU was there as well. And they were very spot on with their concerns for privacy also, which it’s kind of an interesting world where the more conservative side of the ACLU kind of see the same direction. But one thing that really concerns me is To use the facial recognition technology in the classroom, there has to be consent. It’s an opt-in system. However, the student, anyone above fifth grade, you need their consent and the parents are legal guardian under fifth grade, which I don’t understand the fifth grade benchmark is just the parents are legal guardian. Um, technically till 18, they’re, they’re still a minor. So I don’t know why in fifth grade that changes. Um, maybe that could be explained by, by somebody who sponsored the bill, but if there’s a specific thing there, but I worry about the social stigma of 28 of your friends said, uh, I don’t care. I want to learn this new math software that uses facial recognition. But my parents don’t want me to have it. And now I got to sit there with a pencil and paper, so to speak, instead and be singled out for not going along with the new technology crowd. And I kind of worry about the social pressures. I know this whole discussion about all lunches and breakfasts are going to be here for free. apparently one of the rationale is to not separate people out, but to have this, this system where you can opt in or opt out, I feel like there might be some, some peer pressure. So I prefer that we don’t have facial recognition in classrooms at all, but this opt in opt out could be one or two kids per classroom. And how are they going to feel? And that’s interesting. And then the other thing with the consent is, is it says that consent may be obtained either at the beginning of each school year to cover use of all curriculum that collects the biometric identifier or biometric identifiers, or prior to the use of curriculum that does the collection. So my worry is if we’re all told, okay, for the students, we’ll collect this in September, and then – You do some research and find out by December that what they’re going to start using in January is completely offensive to how you view privacy. Are you locked in? Is your child locked into this system already? So that’s a problem as well.
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So Mike Rolick, and this was coming in from Susan, she said, this is a great point that we can’t face our accuser. I think that we’re going to have to reclaim the Constitution and also that we should be able to be secure in our papers. Now, I know everybody thinks that that cat is way out of the bag. But as Susan went on to say, she said, the argument is that AI is impartial, but that depends on who’s doing the programming as well. And she said, and in this case, the officer acted as judge and jury. The lady had to prove that she was innocent. And all of this is things that the founders were very concerned about. Back then, it’s basically many of the things I think that they faced back then, but it’s with technology now, which doesn’t make us any smarter or any better. I think it’s the same age-old issues regarding government and tyranny as it was back then. What do you think, Mike?
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Yeah, you know, it’s a great point. And I was also wrestling with this on my drive this morning. On the other side of things, you could have reporting fatigue. OK, so there are situations that I’ve read about, you know, back in the history of aviation when you would get a new device on an aircraft. And particularly, I remember in Vietnam, people, you know, the pilots were talking about some reporting equipment for different surface area missiles that weren’t working correctly. And they started ignoring them. So could you also see a situation where the police officers are getting so used to false Dorito bags or what have you, that they start ignoring the reports and then these cameras largely become inert. And then when a real threat comes along, They already say, well, it was AI-generated or AI-reported or AI-flagged, so boy, who cried wolf. I’m not going to respond or what have you, or I’m going to respond in a different manner. And then the actual threat gets missed because of, quote-unquote, reporting fatigue or fatigue of false positives. That’s a situation as well. You know, so this could be a huge problem, A, like we say, with the whole facing your accuser and the 24-7 collection of data. There is – in that state actor lawsuit, there’s a three-part litmus test in there, and forgive me, I don’t remember them that well. I’ll get it researched up for next time. But part of what Institute for Justice was saying is the Fourth Amendment doesn’t protect you when you’re in public, but the reasonableness was – If a cop was sitting on a corner or just a general citizen was sitting on a corner, if they notice you do something, you’re not protected. Now we have things that are sweeping up. information second by second, minute by minute, cataloging them in data centers on the cloud and then storing them and then going and possibly looking backwards for a crime. And that is where the Fourth Amendment apparently is being violated, because now you can store stuff for seven days, 10 days, 30 days. And in the case of flock, I know in New Hampshire, the law says you must destroy it in either three seconds or three minutes so that you’re not collecting data and then looking backwards for a crime to fit the data. But that’s a huge concern. And Carpenter v. U.S., I believe, talked about that with the looking through of cell phone data of greater than seven days also violates the Fourth Amendment because now you’re storing data, analyzing it, and watching for a crime as opposed to generally seeing something happen in the public square.
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So Mike Rolick, I’m thinking getting to a police state, and during the break, Producer Joe said, as we were talking about schools, and it’s getting kids used to surveillance and a police state. And I’m looking back and thinking how… Gosh, how free we were when I was a kid and I feel sorry for these kids right now. What’s your final thought on all this, Mike? You bring up such great points and I really appreciate it.
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Well, it’s a very interesting situation that you just brought up. It is a form of conditioning because, you know, when I talk about. why I use an older phone just for how I feel about privacy and how I feel about facial recognition technology that some airlines are using to board a plane or what have you. you’ll hear the, well, they have all of your information anyway, so what does it matter? So the conditioning to me has already happened where people are so used to it all being out there, then quote unquote, what does it matter? Or the, well, I did nothing wrong, so what do I have to hide? And it’s not about you being a criminal or not a criminal. It’s about these false positives to me, number one, and just your general secureness in your own privacy. There are so many laws out there that You know, don’t forget, if you’re out at a park throwing a Frisbee for your dog that’s off a leash, you’re no longer a law-abiding citizen in some fashion, right? I mean, not with the big ones, but you’re breaking a leash law. And at that point, if that security camera’s up on a pole and sees you, what then? You know, one more thing about this bill that went through 25143 is It says, if a school has a contract to use facial recognition, the school should provide notice to students, parents, legal guardians, and shall post notices at the entrances to school grounds that the individuals may be subject to use of facial recognition of services at those school grounds. But what choice do you have? As a child, you have to go to school. If the charter schools are bound by these same laws, if everyone’s using it, what good is the sign?
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Wow. Okay.
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There is not much choice.
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Yeah. Before we let you go, Mike, this just came in from Susan again. She said, another great point about storage as searching. And she said, tell Joe, great point. This is the same reason why we don’t really want police in schools, because everybody defers to the officer for judgment. It gets kids used to a police state. arming teachers and staff, which is the second syndicate, what they’re working with the FASTER program, is a better idea. And so I’m paraphrasing some of the stuff that she said. But great points on all this. We need to reclaim this Constitution. They were so wise on all this. And we’ve got to shed light on it. Your final thought on all this, Mike?
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You know, It truly is important to frame all of this new technology within the confines of the Constitution, within the confines of the actual amendments, you know, the Bill of Rights and the ones past that. And I’m particularly fascinated by the Fourth Amendment and where this technology does and doesn’t fit. So that… I mean, a lot of folks look at the Second Amendment. We’re pretty used to how to look at the First Amendment. But I think the Fourth Amendment truly is coming into its own as far as being studied and being understood in the context of all this new technology that really, really is kind of frightening stuff.
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It is. So, Mike Rollick, great conversation. We’ll talk with you next week. Have a great day and thank you.
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Thanks, Kim. You have a good day as well.
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And I agree with him. I have right in front of me my Constitution and the Fourth Amendment, and the founders were brilliant on this. They understood tyranny, and tyranny can look different, but when you’re looking at it, it is the same thing as well. We have these important discussions because of our sponsors. And for everything regarding mortgages, reach out to Lorne Levy. We’ll talk with him tomorrow. The Fed is meeting today, so we’ll want to analyze what they announced today.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. And while you’re there, download our voters guide. You can do that by going to the red ribbon at the top and just click on that and put in your name and your email address and we will email the link to you. We hope this will be a great tool as you are completing your ballot. It’s important to be an informed voter. Regarding Douglas County school board candidates, I’m recommending vote for Gamble, Kramer, Smith, and Vail. And for other school boards, and these are such important races, go to transformcolorado.org. It is an excellent resource as you are looking at your school board candidates as well. So that’s transformcolorado.org. The USMC Memorial Foundation will be hosting an event in honor of Veterans Day on November 8th, which is Saturday, 2 o’clock out at the memorial. And it’s important as we get to Veterans Day to stop and reflect and honor. our veterans, those that put on the uniform and were willing to put their lives on the line for us, for our liberty. And so that’ll be a great event out there. That’s 2 o’clock on Saturday the 8th. You can get more information by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. That’s usmcmemorialfoundation.org. And then the other nonprofit that I highlight on a regular basis, which is just so focused on our foundational principles of honor, integrity, and patriotism, is the Center for American Values. The center is nonpartisan. It’s nonpolitical, but focuses on pushing forward and learning about these values with their educational programs for K-12 and to help educators and honoring our Medal of Honor recipients. And then Drew Dix, co-founder. of the center has started a new podcast series which he’s got so much wisdom and it’s called Words from the Silo and you can get all of that information by going to AmericanValueCenter.org. That’s AmericanValueCenter.org. An article that I think is important, Following the Money. This is such a problem that we now see different entities that benefit from taxpayer dollars use money then to encourage the taxpayer to vote for higher taxes. And this is a very important report from KDVR, which is Nine News. It says, who is funding the Denver ballot campaigns? And it says, as Denver voters prepare to cast ballots on key local issues, a good way to figure out who stands to benefit from each measure’s passage or defeat is to look at the campaign finance reports that show who or what is contributing money to the campaign. says, I look for really big contributions, partly because that can change the nature of an election. Robert Pruse, a political science professor at MSU, said that Denver ballot issue 310, which asked voters to maintain a ban on flavored tobacco sales, has drawn significant out-of-state funding. Former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg has contributed $2.7 million. to keep the ban in place, continuing his history of supporting ballot measures that limit tobacco access. It says, meanwhile, tobacco companies Philip Morris and Altria have each contributed $75,000 to oppose the measure. I’m somewhat ambivalent on this issue. I don’t really know that much about it. If you have a strong opinion one way or another, let me know. I find it… curious that Michael Bloomberg’s putting $2.7 million in this. And so text me. The text line is 720-605-0647. And let me know what you think about that. But then going on down here, he says the Denver bond issues 2A, 2E, through 2E, that’s five of them. They’re all debt questions to extend debt. Now, if you vote no on those, your property taxes will go down. And who doesn’t want more money in their pocket? But Mike Johnston and company went around and promised goodies to, as Wendy Warner said from our Colorado Union of Taxpayers, she said he promised goodies to all of these different people. They asked, hey, what do you want? Then they promised that. And so it’s going to be difficult to defeat these. But it says the Denver Bond issues 2A, 2E have generated $1.4 million in support and only $7,000 in opposition. And that’s the problem is over on the freedom side is we don’t have all these interested parties. People are interested in freedom, but we don’t have it’s it’s a more of an intangible issue. For example, the work that we’re doing at the Colorado Union of Taxpayers, it’s all volunteers. And with that, we’ve saved, because we’ve taken stands on things, and also with my voter’s guide, we have saved Coloradans billions of dollars. But it’s difficult sometimes to connect that dot. But while I mentioned the Colorado Union of Taxpayers, when you see these people out there, say thank you to them because they spend an enormous amount of their time in the spirit of the founders for freedom, standing up for the taxpayer, protecting your pocketbook through Colorado’s Taxpayers Bill of Rights. And I did see a headline that Representative Lorena Garcia wrote. is going to go after TABOR, Colorado’s Taxpayers Bill of Rights. And so we need to gird up and fight that, and we will be in the fight. And so join us. It’s only $25 a year. But when you see these folks, say thank you to Steve Dorman. Greg Golianski, Russ Haas, Bill Hamill, Rob Knuth, John Nelson, Wendy Warner, Marty Nielsen, Ramey Johnson, Mary Jansen, Dave Evans, Corey Onizorg, Paula Beard, and Ray Beard. And join us. That website is coloradotaxpayer.org. But this is the point to make. The major cultural institutions that benefit, that get taxpayer dollars, has each contributed $50,000 to this ballot issue. And so these entities live off of our tax dollars, but yet they have taken our tax dollars to put into a political campaign. There’s something wrong with that. And that includes the Museum of Nature and Science, the Denver Zoo, the Denver Center for Performing Arts, the Denver Art Museum, and the Denver Botanic Gardens. It says each institution receives funding from the scientific and cultural facilities district sales tax, which is the special seven county tax. And the spokesman, though, they all say that their contributions came from earned revenue, such as admission fees and concessions, not tax dollars. Well, we know that money is fungible. And in fact, I think that if they’re receiving any tax money whatsoever, they should stay out of political campaigns. I think we probably should somehow pass some legislation to do that. But right now, the legislators, they like our tax dollars as well. But we will continue. We will continue to shed light and to fight on this. We are getting ready for our second hour. Our quote for the end of the show is from Isaac Newton. And he said this. He said, if I’ve seen further than others, it is by standing up on the shoulders of giants. So today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you. God bless America. Stay tuned for hour number two.
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Is it freedom or is it force? Let’s have a conversation.
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Indeed, let’s have a conversation. And welcome to our number two of the Kim Monson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You each are treasured and you’re valued. You have purpose. Today, strive for excellence. Take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. And thank you to the team, Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, Amanda, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Wednesday, Producer Joe. Happy Wednesday, Kim. And, boy, I’m just contemplating all that is going on right now and how that is matching up with liberty. Really an important conversation with Mike Rolick in hour number one. If you missed that, you can hear that today, 1 to 2 in the afternoon. This hour is rebroadcast 10 to 11 at night, and that’s on all KLC 560 platforms. But the surveillance state… And we’re freely doing it out of convenience. And I know Jenny on a regular basis says it’s because of convenience that we’re, and I’m paraphrasing, that we’re giving up all of our freedoms. And the convenience is great, but it’s even like with Donald Trump, with all the things that he’s doing. We need to be living our lives. We need Trump to stay within the Constitution, which I think he’s doing a good job on that. And now he threatens some things that I think may be outside the Constitution. And one of those things that I’m concerned about is the threat of sending military into our communities. I don’t really like that. Constitutionally, though, we’re supposed to have domestic tranquility, and these blue cities do not. And as Gammy had texted me, if in fact these SNAP benefits go away on November 1st, the blue cities really could see some real dangerous times. So we want to stay within the Constitution, but we also need to be asking and requiring our other elected representatives to stay within the Constitution as well. And so the fact that we have these blue cities that are not domestically tranquil, they’re not those leaders are not they’re not leaders. Excuse me. And those representatives are not doing what they’re supposed to do. So we’re kicking the tires on these ideas. And right now, I think we’re all contemplating and ruminating on what is going on. But this all happens because of our sponsors. I want to say thank you to the Harris family for their goal sponsorship of the show. And Susan is in town, Susan Harris. So I’m going to get to see her a little bit later today, which I’m very excited about doing. As you know, we are searching for truth and clarity. And I really am searching today. I’m contemplating this whole AI thing and our freedoms. But we look at these through this issue of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. And if something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And going to this Fourth Amendment, as Mike was talking about, the right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects against unreasonable searches and seizures shall not be violated and no warrant shall issue but upon probable cause supported by oath or affirmation and particularly describing the place to be searched and the persons of things to be seized. So going a little bit more on this discussion, Again, freedom versus force and all of this AI. Joe said that Doug from Douglas County had called in. And another thing to be concerned where you cannot face your accuser is these red light cameras. And I agree with him. I contemplated those when I was on city council. And again, staff brought this to us under the guise of… safety, making intersections more safe. But I think it was really a revenue generator. But again, I’ve been on this progression here of thinking about how this matches up to the Constitution. And I don’t think that red light cameras do. And I think that we should get rid of those. But then Joe also brought this up to me. Producer Joe had seen this. And this was a um, article for, this is from October 16th of this year. It says Amazon’s ring. Now I didn’t realize that Amazon had ring, but it says Amazon’s surveillance camera maker ring announced a partnership on Thursday. This was earlier this month with flock, the maker of the AI powered surveillance cameras that share footage with law enforcement. Um, And I want to hear what you all have to think about that. I see a big danger from a freedom standpoint on that. So let me know on that. And again, the text line is 720-605-0647. And Veterans Day is right around the corner, and it’s so important to remember and honor our veterans. And someone that does an amazing job at that is Paula Sarles. She is the president of the USMC Memorial Foundation, which I am so honored to support. We’ve got her on the line. Paula, welcome.
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Well, thank you for having me, Kim. Good morning. Good morning.
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Well, it’s good to talk with you, Paula. You do such amazing work in honoring our veterans and our military and taking care of the USMC Memorial and working for the remodel on that. But tell us about the event on November 8th.
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Well, they have our annual Veterans Day ceremony. It’s always the Saturday before Veterans Day. Since Veterans Day, a lot of people don’t get off. So we have Jesse Clay as our guest speaker, and he is a phenomenal speaker. And he’s a Navy SEAL, a corpsman. He was first a corpsman, then he became a Navy SEAL, and he’s a four-time heavyweight world champion and Hall of Famer in Kumite martial arts. Wow. So he’s very disciplined, and I think he’ll be a really good example for people to hear from. He’s a great patriot, and we’re looking forward to a good day.
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It will be a good day, and the ceremony starts at 2 o’clock. What’s the address of the Marine Memorial?
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It’s at 16899 West Colfax. and that’s at 6th and Colfax intersection, and you park across the street. There’s a bank, and they’re closed, so we use their parking lot and then walk over. It’s a short walk, about 2,000 feet, and… easy to get to.
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And actually in that parking lot across from the Marine Memorial is one of our sponsors and that is Little Richie’s which specializes in pizzas and pastas. And so normally I’ll pick up something when I’m out at the event at Little Richie’s and take that home because they really have great food. So I get two for one when I come out to the Marine Memorial, Paula. Yes.
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Yeah, I do the same thing. I love that place.
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I do, too. So, Paula, I think I’ve heard that people are concerned that we as Americans don’t always have been in parades and don’t stand for the flag on Memorial Day. And I don’t think that that is where people are trying to take a stand against America. I think that people don’t understand the importance of remembering and honoring. And so that’s one of the reasons or one of the facts that you do your great work is so important. And tell us, there is a distinction. And again, I think a lot of people don’t connect that dot, but there’s really a distinction between Memorial Day and Veterans Day. So explain that to our listeners.
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Well, Memorial Day is the day to remember the fallen. And, um, On Veterans Day, it started out as a way to remember World War I heroes. And over the years, it evolved. And I just did a study on it. I’m doing a speech Saturday about it. So it changed over the years. And finally, in 1975, it was declared a holiday for November 11th. Permanently, it changed back and forth. And so… It’s a day to remember all veterans, living and dead, and to thank them for their service and to do something to honor veterans. And John Kennedy said something to the effect of, you know, don’t just remember them, but take action and do something, live your life to honor them. And so that’s what we always do at the memorial. We encourage people to do something. Support a charity like the Marine Memorial at usmcmemorialfoundation.org or go out and help veterans in some way. Buy a dinner for a veteran if you see them in a restaurant. Do something. Take action to thank them because they took action for your freedom.
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Absolutely. And and certainly buying dinner is or picking up a tab is a great idea. But also to financially support the U.S. MC Memorial Foundation is so important. And getting to know you, Paula, and all of the veterans going to Normandy with the World War Two guys. um drew dix and down at the center for american values it’s really changed my life and uh it gives me inspiration to engage in this battle of ideas that is raging in our country uh and it’ll and it almost goes to the quote that i have for the end of the show and that is when i say at the end of america’s veteran stories but isaac newton said it as well that we stand on the shoulders of giants and we need to stop, reflect, and recognize that. So I thank you for all the great work that you do, Paula Sarles.
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Well, thank you very much for your support. And to all your viewers, thank you for your support.
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And again, you can get more information about the event on November 8th by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. Paula, we will talk with you next week, and thank you.
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Thank you.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our Web site. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com and sign up for our voters guide. There’s a red ribbon at the top of the Web site and you can click on that. Put in your name and your email and we’ll send you a link. And we want you to be informed voters as you’re making these decisions. So hopefully the voters guide will be helpful for you on that. And then also regarding school boards, transformcolorado.org is a great resource for that. And then regarding your city council and mayor races, I gave you some questions to ask your candidates and reach out to your city clerk and get their contact information and then reach out to them and ask them those questions. And it is Wednesday, so it is a Trent Luce Wednesday. He is a sixth-generation farmer and rancher from Nebraska. And we continue to talk about the important people that feed and fuel us. And Sean Pond was on last week, a Montrose County commissioner. He said, feed, fuel, and fire us. And I liked that as well. So, Trent Luce, welcome to the show.
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Good morning. A little tent of winter coming in, Kim.
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I know the wind chill is like at 18 degrees here. And this happens so quick. I said in Colorado, the weather can change so quickly that you can wear your snow boots and your swimming suit on the same day. And that’s kind of what this kind of weather is. First thing, Trent Luce, I saw a headline that troubled me, and that is that John Deere is moving a big operation from Iowa to Mexico. And I thought we were trying to bring business back to the United States, so talk to me about this.
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Well, when your largest shareholders, a guy named Bill Gates, anything goes. And the sad part of this whole story is, and I don’t know which plant it is, I believe they’re going to move all manufacturing out of the United States as a plan. But their profitability comes in collecting farmers’ data and selling that and sharing that and doing what they do with that. And continuing to put it on the Microsoft Azure cloud, reminding you that Bill Gates is the largest shareholder at 21 million shares, I just have lost all respect for John Deere and what they’re actually doing to the farm community.
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I know. And as you know, I come from a long line of farmers, people that work with their hands, and we’ve always loved that green paint. In fact, I’ve got a little kid’s tractor, a John Deere tractor, And these icons of of America, John Deere. Last week, we were talking about the NFL. My friend and sponsor, Susan Harris, has brought up the the point that the NFL, though we look at the NFL and the Super Bowl because we’re talking about the halftime entertainment thing. we’ve looked at those as American icons, but she said she thinks the NFL is trying to go global, and that’s why they have these goofy halftime entertainers. This one’s Bad Bunny, who looks like his lyrics don’t really celebrate the human spirit whatsoever. And I love the fact Turning Point is going to have an alternative. But we think these things are American, and they’re trying to go global, right?
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I don’t know if you’ve actually had a conversation with a farmer, because I do not have John Deere equipment, never have. But I continue to talk to friends, and particularly at important times of the year like right now in harvest. And if something happens with the tractor as you’re using a grain cart to get corn or soybeans away, typically corn, away from the combine to the truck to get it to the bin or wherever you’re going to store it, and you have some issue happen, You can’t just fix it. You have to call John Deere. And in many cases, I’m told, I had one the other day told me, they said it would be 10 days until we could get there to fix it. And then a little thing that my buddy Kevin Kinney in Grand Island, Nebraska, could fix for like $1,500, John Deere will charge you $14,000 to fix it because they’ve got to hook it all up to the computer system. And it just flies in the face and everything, what you just described, I think it was perfect. This should be the greatest picture of Americana you can find, and in fact, it’s just the opposite.
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Yeah, and 10 days at harvest time, that’s big money for a farmer.
SPEAKER 11 :
You don’t have 10 hours. 10 days is huge. And so, I mean… And what I mean by that is that we’re coming on November 1st, and every day there’s a snow that’s getting closer. And what snow does to these crops in the field when they’re not out, you have literally 10 hours to get it done. So in that case, you have no choice but to find another combine to borrow, to rent, to do something with, or… Here’s what’s really growing that nobody wants to talk about is this whole black market of people who will come and bypass a computer and fix your combine without, and that’s illegal. It’s blatantly illegal. How can that be illegal to have somebody come and fix your combine?
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah, it should not be illegal. That is a real freedom question. And connect the dot, Trent Luce, of why people in the urban corridors should worry about this whole thing with John Deere and the farmer.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, because there’s twofold. Number one, it’s a domestic supply of food, and we need to maintain our domestic supply of food, period, for national security. Number two, what they practice and make perfect on the farmer, it’s not a lot different with your own automobile, and any of these new automobiles are fast getting to the same exact spot. So it extends to every segment of our society, even though it starts with the farmer.
SPEAKER 20 :
Well, it really does, and it all comes down to freedom. And we have taken for granted an abundant and reliable, affordable food source when we go to the grocery store, and that is getting more and more tenuous. I want to move over to your thoughts about the SNAP benefits and that they might go away. Gammy had texted me, and I hadn’t thought about it, that if they go away because of the government shutdown, that there could be chaos because one of the first things in a society of people are going hungry, that people get very restless. So what’s your thoughts about this whole SNAP benefit thing?
SPEAKER 11 :
First of all, I do not believe in any subsidy in any way, shape or form, including SNAP. But when you have 15% of your population that has come completely reliant and dependent upon a government handout, and that government handout is not there, there will be chaos. And actually, I believe that that was the intended cause. And I’m just going to put this in the farmer mentality. I don’t have an animal that if I feed it at a certain day, It won’t show up to eat every single day. I don’t need to put it in a pen. I don’t need to have a gate on the pen. The animal will continue to show up. And if I don’t feed it, what’s it do? It’s going to knock stuff around and cause chaos because it has become dependent upon me providing for it every single day. And the human being is no better. In fact, the chaos and the anger will be worse in the human being. And it will be ugly.
SPEAKER 20 :
So you and I both agree that we need to wean our society off of subsidies, tax incentives. We need to get back to people earning their living. Now, Trent, I think that we all agree, and all of these government programs are under the guise of compassion, of helping people. But they become bureaucracies. And just for example, homelessness in Denver. Senator Hickenlooper, the mayor of Denver at the time, he had said that we will eradicate homelessness. Give us more government money. We will eradicate that. Oh, no, no, no. It is well over $100 million programs now. And all these bureaucrats that make their living off of this tragedy of homelessness, they will never solve the problem, because if they did, their gravy train goes away. And so we’ve got to get people in elected office that will make the hard decisions to start to require Americans to wean ourselves off of all of this government stuff, whether or not it’s SNAP, farm subsidies. Tax credits for transmission lines. And you and I, we know that we’ve got to do this. Otherwise, our America as we love it will no longer exist, I don’t think.
SPEAKER 11 :
No, I agree 100%. And I don’t know how you do that. I just know that we have to get to that point.
SPEAKER 20 :
So you’re ear to the ground. Are these SNAP benefits really going to disappear on November 1st?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yes. Yes.
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SPEAKER 20 :
And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our Web site. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. And sign up for a weekly email newsletter while you’re at the Web site and download our voters guide as well. These elections are so important. I’m talking with Trent Liu, sixth generation farmer and rancher. We’re talking about John Deere, that they have proprietary technology. This is from Mark in Aurora. He said, proprietary technology preventing an owner from maintaining or repairing his own gear is an anti-American abomination, and it’s foisted upon us by many of the people in government. And let’s see another one. It says 81% of the 2023 Farm Bill went to the stamp program. Farmers only received 19%. It says Walmart is not a farmer. Their share is 25% of the program, which is $315 billion. Thank you, Lynn, for that information. Your comment on that, and then Joe and I are talking about something. Do we have Wendy on the line as well, Joe? Yes. Okay, great. So, Trent, you’re – Wendy Volkon, who is a realtor up in Cheyenne, we’ve been talking about this huge 56,000-acre proposed industrial wind project, so we want to get an update on that. But, Trent, your comment on those two things – I guess Mark is just affirming – and regarding Walmart and the SNAP program. What’s your thoughts on that, Trent?
SPEAKER 11 :
I think that was Lynn, correct, Kim? Yeah.
SPEAKER 20 :
It was Lynn. Yes.
SPEAKER 11 :
Lynn was spot on. You know, for years, this has been a big discussion within the farm community. Seventy five to 80 percent of the total farm bill goes into welfare programs for food stamps and SNAP and different programs like that. And we always got blamed, we being the agricultural community across the board, got blamed for receiving such a big chunk of money when 81% was actually going to supplemental nutrition and assistance programs. But the other side of the argument would be, well, if we don’t keep it within that system, then we’ll never get any attention whatsoever. I just want the whole thing to go away. But I want to repeat what we said before. If you do it like we’re planning to do it here… Particularly at a time when you mentioned homelessness, at a time when winter is coming in, it will bring about hardship, and hardship will bring about chaos. But here is a classic case of where government creates a problem, and then they turn around and come in and try to pretend to be a solution for the problem. We’ve got to move beyond all of that.
SPEAKER 20 :
We really do. And so we need to wean ourselves off of this. And then Yvonne texted this in. Again, the text line is 720-605-0647. She said she believes it is intentional in order to get the dependent masses activated to riot. The left will take food away from people they feed to cause the chaos that they require. I think she’s got a really good point, Trent Luce.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, finally, Yvonne said something I agree with.
SPEAKER 20 :
I think you guys agree quite often.
SPEAKER 11 :
I don’t think we’ve had anything we haven’t agreed on. Although on one of my other programs this morning, I found Teresa Platt, who I always agree with on everything, except for today. And this ties into what we’re about to talk to with Wendy, too. I am adamantly opposed to easements. When you sign an easement on your property, you are giving control to somebody else who you don’t know control of your property. It’s no longer your property. And we’re moving into this era where people think they need to sign an easement to protect green space or to put a wind turbine or to do anything on your property. You are signing away your property rights, and we’re doing it at an accelerated rate. Some people… as a means of final try to survive. And this is just another part of government control that we’ve got to get away from.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah, and that’s why we have these conversations. So I’m pleased to have Wendy Volk on the line with us. And she is a realtor in Cheyenne. And one of our listeners, Jenny, had reached out regarding this huge industrial wind project that was next to their land. They didn’t find out about it until this last June. And they were able to get information out to… the community and the commissioners. I can’t remember now, Wendy, did they deny the permit or what happened exactly? So Wendy Volk, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 08 :
Good morning, Kim and Trent. Good morning. What ended up happening was we did receive notice. It was public notification by certified mail that there was going to be an industrial project near our property. It was going to be a 56,000-acre wind project, the majority of it on two private landowners’ property, and of the 56,000, 6,000 acres were going to be state land it was going to be 170 turbines and what was most concerning is the map they gave to the adjacent property owners or people within one mile of the project was on an eight and a half by 11 piece of paper showing our entire county and then a postage size stamp wind project And then when they enlarged it, it still didn’t identify who the neighbors are that might be impacted. So, you know, then fast forward when the 60-day public hearing came before our planning commission, the planning commission, after hearing hours of public comment, and it was all in a very civilized, very, very… I was really proud of our community of speaking out, whether in favor of the project or opposed to the project. And then the following, and so the planning commission decided to postpone voting on a decision until after our state had their industrial permit process. And then the following week, our county commissioners Totally a different process, totally different group of people. They again heard hours of public testimony along with the company, and they had two rows of people representing the company sitting in the audience and speaking. And the county commissioners voted one commissioner in favor of supporting the project and three opposed. And we were floored. We had not seen a project like this be denied. And so then the county attorney submitted to the company a list of what the reasons of why the commissioners voted to deny the permit. And we’re going to wait and see what the company may or may not do next. They may choose to start the process for their industrial permit with the state. And that deadline would be this Friday on Halloween. and then that would go before that process and that permit would be heard in the end of january or they could wait for another deadline you know later but i think what we’re seeing is large projects of this magnitude are being the permitting is being fast-tracked it really feels like and i can see and hear about how fast these this type of a project was progressing and i didn’t feel it was fully transparent i didn’t feel like as neighbors We understood until we really raised awareness and getting better maps and identifying where our property was. So right now the project is on hold. And we’re now also reaching out to learn about our other neighbors north of our community in Chugwater have also a similar size industrial project that’s on 50,000 acres for wind, solar, and a battery storage facility.
SPEAKER 20 :
And what’s the status of that particular project, Windy Vogue? Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER 08 :
They went through the process going through the state permit process. There’s kind of two routes a company can take when they do a large industrial wind or solar type project. In the case of our community, the company chose to go through the county first in Platt County, where Chugwater is situated. It is just 40 miles north of Cheyenne, where we are. And so that one, because of the magnitude of it and the community, they decided to go through the state process. And so I went ahead and I downloaded the permit. It’s 2,548 pages. And although I killed a tree… I’ve only gone through the first 400 pages, but there’s another reason to have people get actively involved in reading these things and taking the time to question, does it make sense? What are we giving up? There are going to be 150 wind turbines, and I don’t remember how many large solar panels there will be, but It just it’s looking at the scale of a 50,000 acre project that’s, you know, two and a half times the size of Cheyenne’s landmass. And it would, you know, blanket 100 with 150 of these turbines. It’s going to impact a lot of people, whether it’s the people that the private property owners that own it. And then there’s also some state land, just like what was the project in our community. But. It’s dividing that small community in a big way about either in support of the project or in opposition of the project.
SPEAKER 20 :
Well, and now I’m drawing a blank on the gentleman’s name that I had on the show from Ohio, where, again, no pun intended, but they got wind of actually, I think, a huge solar industrial project that was going to go in across right next to their land. And they organized and was able to stop it because they they talked about how that really would affect rain runoff and how it really affects the land. And that’s the other thing that we’ve got to really think about is looking into the future. When these projects have gone through their lifespan on it, what happens then to the land? How can that be put back to the way it’s supposed to be? What’s your thoughts on that, Trent Luce?
SPEAKER 11 :
It’ll never be put back the way it’s supposed to be. Each wind turbine has 1,350 tons of concrete. There’s 1,600 tons of total material on each turbine. From a solar standpoint, my friend Hank Vogler, who runs 10,000 U’s in Nevada, this week we’re talking about they’re proposing a new solar establishment on what is currently an alfalfa field. And I just repeat, and in my own county this week, they approved a solar panel project on the northern end of the county. All of this after August 19th, Brooke Rollins, USDA, saying, effective immediately, no more farmland will go into these projects. And it’s happening all the time. And they went to Hank Vogler because they said, Hank, we want to put this solar project here in White Pine County, Nevada. And Hank has 10,000 sheep. And he said, we want you to come and explore grazing your sheep because that’s one of the selling tools. I’ve seen it in the counties that I’ve testified is that it doesn’t remove it from agriculture. We can still graze sheep or goats. And Hank went and he said, there is no way you’re going to have anything there worthy of grazing if you put these solar destructive units on top of them. And so that’s just another one of their lies. I do want permission to pick on Wendy for a minute because I never do that, but I’m going to.
SPEAKER 20 :
Okay. Wendy, I’m doing this with trepidation. Okay.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay, Trent. There should be no trepidation. She said that she killed a tree by printing off these 2,500 pages. Did you not say that, Wendy?
SPEAKER 07 :
I did. It was a large sum of paper, but I did double-side it.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah. Okay. But we have had that ingrained in our head that it is against the tree to have a piece of paper. The tree is going to die. And we had a logger go in there and remove this tree, found a consumptive use for the tree, which we as people use the pulp, the product of the tree. And somebody planted a new tree there, maybe two trees that are growing. And I think that that was just my fun way of picking on Wendy, but yet explains how we’ve had so many things ingrained against us, the true cycle of life.
SPEAKER 20 :
Well, and to that, I’ve thought, you know, Amazon is scary, but it’s also pretty amazing that you can order something and have it delivered. But I thought about all of the packaging that goes into that. And I find it so interesting that just to what Wendy said, that we have been conditioned to not have paper. That’s why we’ve been encouraged to do everything online online. And I realized that I really do like paper. This is a spoiler alert. I actually do not use an electronic calendar. I use an old thing. Wendy, you may not know what they are. It’s called a day timer. I don’t know if you’ve ever heard of those or not.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, yeah. And I had a roll with it.
SPEAKER 11 :
I think you slammed it worse than I did.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, I’m 60 years old. You know what a day timer is? Yeah, I had one when I worked for Bank of America. Yep.
SPEAKER 20 :
Okay. We’re talking with Trent Luce and Wendy Volk about citizens getting involved and trying to find transparency in things. And I agree with Wendy. Sometimes having that piece of paper in front of you so that you can go through it is so important. And in fact, I’ll tell you a little story when we come back. I want to make sure I don’t forget that about paper. And when I was on city council and again, I’m talking with Trent Luce and Wendy Volk, but did want to mention Jody Henze and her colleagues have a great event that is coming up on Friday, November 7th, and it’s women and wealth. And it’s a great connecting event. And it’s they’re going to be doing watercolors and you can RSVP. by reaching out to Jody. It’s J-O-D-Y at MintFS, so mintfinancialstrategies.com. They have just a few spots left. So if you’d like to connect with Jody and some other great women, be sure and RSVP to that. And we are certainly blessed with amazing sponsors. If you’ve been injured, you’ll want to make sure that you reach out to John Bozen and Bozen Law.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. I wanted to mention the two nonprofits that I highlight on a regular basis. And the first is the USMC Memorial Foundation. We talked with Paula Sarles earlier today about their event on November 8th. And then also the Center for American Values, which is located in Pueblo, focused on these foundational principles of honor, integrity, and patriotism. And they do amazing work. So support them as well. That website is AmericanValueCenter.org, AmericanValueCenter.org. I have Wendy Volk on the line. She is a realtor in Cheyenne and just so thoughtful. And she got informed on what was happening and then let other people know about it. And they were able to stop an industrial or the permitting at the county level for of an industrial wind project of about 56,000 acres. And so it’s so important that we take heart from that for what just one person can do. And Trent Luce is on the line as well. Before we get back to our conversation, this came in from Kevin. Trent, this was regarding John Deere. It says, is not being enforced. Why I tried to get software and the dealer flat denied us, but Colorado is the only right to repair bill for agriculture. So two things there. Colorado is supposed to be a right to repair, but the dealer is denying them. Anyway, just a quick comment on that, Trent.
SPEAKER 11 :
No, I don’t have much to comment on that because it’s self-explanatory. Why is that not being enforced? People need to ask that question in a very loud way. I do have one thing I want to add because you brought up the Amazon. And this is the world they want us to live in where the haves do not let us, the peasants, have anything other than the bare minimum. The United Nations is going to have their COP Global Summit on Climate Change in Brazil, November 17th, 18th, and 19th. I think both of you are very aware of that. I wonder how many people know that they are clearing up to 20,000 acres of Amazon rainforest to build a brand-new four-lane highway to get people to this event to talk about not cutting down trees.
SPEAKER 20 :
And Yvonne texted and said, trees are a renewable resource. And then let’s see here. Jenny said this. She said, have Joe look up GDPCOOP.com, I think. Oh, no, that’s something different. I was looking at those letters. Okay, Wendy and Trent, when I was on city council, we all were given an iPad. I didn’t have an iPad. I had my little computer, my personal computer for what I did. So we all had an iPad, and they would download all the meeting agendas and all of the papers and all of that. And so we were working off of our iPads. But what I realized is things could get changed or I wouldn’t have a hard copy of some of these things that were being proposed. So I was then printing off my city packets and I thought, well, wait a minute. Why am I doing that? I should have staff just provide that for me. So I asked to be provided, because I noticed the mayor, who really was, as I look back, was really pushing World Economic Forum agendas, I noticed that he always had paper. So I thought, well, I’m going to ask staff that I could have the packet and paper as well. And they said, no, you can’t. It’s just too much time and paper. And I said, but the mayor gets it. And they said, well, you know, that’s just the way it is. I said, okay, well, I think that I’m going to bring this up in public at the meeting and make a motion that I would be able to get my packet in paper. And they said, okay, we’ll go ahead and take care of it. We’ll give you the paper. But I just thought that was super interesting. And then because I was a burr in the saddle of the mayor, And I did not run for re-election. Basically, the day after the election, all access to that iPad was gone. So I would not have access to those packets anymore. I just think that’s an interesting thing on that. I don’t know, Wendy, if you want to make a comment or a trench, you can. Neither?
SPEAKER 11 :
I actually know of a county in Kansas, Republic County, Kansas, that approved a WEN development system. Without a printed copy of the conditional use that it would, it was all digital. And that is a direct violation of every statute in Kansas related to what ordinances and county commissions are supposed to do. People filed a lawsuit and it went nowhere. To your point, that cannot continue. And that move to take us into the digital age creates all types of dangers. And that Wynn Development Center is there today.
SPEAKER 20 :
And so that’s why being able, as Wendy did, to download that and to go through it. Now, this other one, Wendy, you said it’s 2,500 pages. It doesn’t take 2,500 pages to stand for freedom. Normally, those many pages can indicate, to me, just off the top, great concern. Your thoughts on that, Wendy?
SPEAKER 08 :
You know, I understand the depth that they’re doing, you know, wildlife mitigation studies because there’s wildlife that is significantly impacted with large industrial projects, and they need to look at traffic studies. And as a real estate agent and a layperson, being able to read some of these traffic studies is impossible unless you really understand turning radius information on these intersections. But as just a citizen driving these roads, I know the roads. I know, you know, can you take a horse trailer? Can you take a U-Haul? Can you take a semi-truck around corners? And can you get a moving truck to and from these properties? So when you take it and you… you know, expand it to the scale of what these projects are. You know, when you see a report that’s 2,500 pages and there’s 22 projects of this size is what I’ve been told coming at Wyoming. And so the people that are appointed to being on our industrial siting council, you know, some of them are attorneys, some of them are ranchers, some of them are real estate agents. They could be any number of professions. But the time it takes to go through adequately a 3,000-page application and be able to intelligently make a decision in favor or against a project, that’s, I think, the real thing is every community, every state has to ask ourselves that fundamental question is what kind of state or what kind of community do we want to be? And Wyoming has got a long history of energy development. So no matter how we look at it, whether it’s current day with the different types of projects like the wind and solar projects, we have to just remind people I value stewardship and balance and respect for my community and those that live in the community because we’re going to have to live with these consequences. There’s a big difference between responsible development and reckless overreach.
SPEAKER 20 :
You’ve really nailed it. This is a fascinating conversation. We’re just about out of time. Wendy Vogt, thank you. And this thoughtful consideration is so important. And also, these… These appointed boards, I have great concern about that, making decisions. We need to make sure it’s our electeds that are making decisions. But also, they need to be reading all of the legislation. They need to be reading all of these things that are being passed. They can’t give permits to 2,500 pages of something. They have got to read it, and that should slow the process down. Wendy Volk, as always, thank you so much.
SPEAKER 08 :
Thank you, Kim. Thanks, Trent.
SPEAKER 20 :
And Trent, as always, we’ve got 15 seconds. What’s your final thought?
SPEAKER 11 :
All the things we talked about today only happen when enough of the people say, we will not accept this anymore. We need accountability and people to represent the will of the people. Until we do that, they will continue to get away with what they’re doing.
SPEAKER 20 :
And the will of the people has to be within the confines of the Constitution as well, and that is liberty, which is the responsible exercise of freedom. Trent Luce, we’ll talk with you next week. Thank you so much.
SPEAKER 11 :
Thanks, Kim.
SPEAKER 20 :
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