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In this episode, Kim Monson sheds light on the power dynamics within our judicial and legislative systems. Featuring a conversation with Carl Roberts from Colorado Resilience, listeners will gain insight into the systemic issues surrounding family court and child protection services. The program also touches on the broader societal impacts of policy decisions, making a compelling case for informed citizen involvement.
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indeed let’s have a conversation and welcome to the kim monson show thank you so much for joining us you each are treasured you’re valued you have purpose today strive for excellence take care of your heart your soul your mind and your body my friends we were made for this moment in history and thank you to the team that’s producer joe luke rachel zach echo charlie mike theresa amanda and all the people here at crawford broadcasting happy tuesday producer joe happy tuesday kim And we have been working diligently to pre-record shows for next week for Thanksgiving week with amazing guests and amazing subjects. And I think that you’ll really enjoy that. So we’ve been working diligently on that. I did want to say thank you to Laramie Energy for their goal sponsorship of the show because it’s reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant power from naturally occurring hydrocarbons such as oil, natural gas, and coal that powers our lives, fuels our hopes and dreams, and and empowers us to change our own personal climate to be warm in the winter and cool in the summer. On the micro level and your own personal climate, if you are having some challenges being warm in the winter or cool in the summer, be sure to reach out to Ben’s Plumbing, Heating, and Cooling, and they can help you with that. All of the information for all of my sponsors is on my website. Their phone number is there, and you can reach them there. There. Our word of the day is, hold on here. I’ve got lots of different, this is the Rush Limbaugh, all these different papers here. It’s cogitation. It’s C-O-G-I-T-A-T-I-O-N. It is a noun and it could be thoughtful consideration or meditation. A serious thought and carefully considered reflection. Or number three, the act of thinking, thought, meditation, or contemplation. And I would say that we need to all have a little more cogitation where we are in our country at this particular point in time. to really think about things that are happening and really look at them from our foundational principles as well. So our quote of the day is from William Penn. He was born in 1644, died in 1718. Of course, Pennsylvania was named after him. He was an English writer, theologian, religious thinker, and influential Quaker who founded the province of Pennsylvania during the British colonial era. He was an advocate of democracy and religious freedom. He was known for his amicable relations and successful treaties with the Lenape Indian tribes who had resided in present-day Pennsylvania prior to European settlements there. And he said this, and I chose justice quotes today because we’ll be talking with Sam Dorman, who watches the courts for the Epoch Times as our featured guest in hour number two. And he said this, He said, justice is justly represented blind because she sees no difference in the parties concerned. She has but one scale and weight for richer, poor, greater, small. And that’s William Penn’s Some Fruits of Solitude. That was written in 1693. And that is why at the Supreme Court, Lady Justice has a blindfold on. So when we see these activist judges that are trying to, instead of treat each party impartially, but instead are pushing agendas, that is totally antithetical to the whole American idea. Let’s see. Some of the headlines. Well, I did want to say a couple of things. First of all, the Colorado Union of Taxpayers is an all-volunteer group, and it is an amazing group that has done a tremendous amount of work regarding rating the Colorado legislature. Our ratings report is out, and we are distributing it, and I’ve been working on it. cleaning up the mailing list for all of our members. And so if you would like to get a hard copy of that, join us. You can go to coloradotaxpayer.org. It’s $25 a year. And you will also receive the email that we send out each week to the legislators and the governor. during the legislative session regarding positions that we’re taking on different bills. And it’s a very thoughtful group. When you see them, be sure and say thank you. And my fellow board members are Steve Dorman, Greg Golanski, Russ Haas, Bill Hamill, Rob Knuth, John Nelson, Wendy Warner, Marty Nielsen, Ramey Johnson, Mary Jansen, Dave Evans, Corey Onizorg, Paula Beard, and Ray Beard. And again, we’d love to have you join us. That is coloradotaxpayer.org. Probably the top headline right now is, this is from Newsmax, it says, the GOP unites behind the Epstein bill after Trump backs it. This whole Jeffrey Epstein saga is really a saga. And the article goes on to say, with President Donald Trump now endorsing the push to release all Jeffrey Epstein files, Boy, this is one of those mornings. Sorry about that. Top House Republicans, including Chairs Jim Jordan, Republican of Ohio, and James Calmer, a Republican Kentucky, are quickly lining up behind the bill, Politico reported on Monday. Further, a growing number of Senate Republicans are now open to voting for the measure in light of the president’s about-face, according to the report. Said a vote could come as early as today in the Republican-controlled House. And Jordan said, I think everyone will vote for it. He is the chair of the House Judiciary Committee. And he said, Republicans need to get this ridiculous thing past us. I totally agree. And so the legislation compels full release of all Epstein investigative files, including federal records and communications. Supporters say transparency is overdue. And critics warn sensitive material could affect ongoing cases later. and privacy concerns so this is a really big deal and uh i think that they i do i think we need to get this behind us but i do think that the american people need to need to know what’s going on with that as well Our next headline, this is from Fox News, and Lee Zeldin is overhauling the Biden-era water rule to end weaponization that led puddles to trigger pricey permits. And I remember when I was on city council, this was during the Obama administration, and it was Waters of the USA, I think, or Waters of America. And it was regulations that were put in place that basically would regulate The water that was going down the gutter in front of your house. And it was so interesting. And again, I was still learning about all of these things and trying to think about what does this really mean? What’s the ramifications? And so when Public Works was making the presentation regarding this, And how onerous this was. They didn’t say it was onerous. I thought it was. They said, and we would be able to regulate basically the water going down the gutter. And then they showed a house. And what was amazing was it was my house. And so I said, gosh, that’s pretty crazy. But anyway. EPA Administrator Lee Zeldin will announce a revamp of the widely criticized Waters of the United States, WOTUS, a regulation that in one case left an Idaho couple facing potential fines of $33,000 per day for building a home on soggy ground. The Waters of the U.S. was drafted during the Nixon administration under the Clean Water Act to regulate and protect wetlands, more broadly defined navigable waters, and protect public health. Before the Obama and Biden administrations extended its reach to where landowners feared the EPA could swoop in at any moment and usurp control of their lands, which they did. He said, when it comes to the definition of waters of the United States, EPA has an important responsibility to protect water resources while setting clear and practical rules of the road that accelerate economic growth and opportunity, Zeldin said. And it says the Obama administration greatly broadened waters of the U.S. definitions before the Trump administration relented on some of those new regulations, to which the Biden administration again greatly expanded them. And this was over streams, low-lying spots prone to naturally collecting water that could be found to have, they said, a significant nexus to navigable waters. And again, it was all about control. So the EPA said the new rule, drawing on a court decision in favor of exasperated landowners, is delivering on another Trump administration promise to provide regulatory clarity while also protecting America’s waterways. So good for Lee Zeldin on this. Next thing, these road diets. We have seen all of these road diets. I hope this is going to come up from the Denverite. Hold on just a second. And there’s been talk of a road diet on, it’s not coming up from the Denverites, so I’ll just have to paraphrase. There’s been talk of putting Alameda, which is a major thoroughfare, on a road diet. And what that would do, you’re seeing this on Colfax, is put in dedicated bus lanes or bike lanes and reducing the number of car lanes. They’re calling it a road diet. One has to ask why exactly, except the goal is to try to get people, out of their cars. Well, the community has really pushed back on it. And the headline was even that an Anschutz had pushed back on it. So the city seems to be rechecking that and rethinking that. So as people are starting to recognize what is happening here, people are making their voices heard. And we’ve got to do more and more of that. Next headline that I wanted to mention is the Denver Summit FC warns it could move a stadium outside the city amid delays. This is the women’s professional soccer team. And I have to first of all ask why. Why a stadium? Does it make economic sense? Because if it doesn’t, who’s going to pay for it? Well, it’s going to be the taxpayer. And quite frankly, do people want to have money taken from them to build a stadium for ladies soccer or not? And I think we really need to ask that question as well. And then lastly, in Chicago… It says Chicago is hit by record property tax hikes as office values fall. And so instead of reducing spending, they’re going to increase property taxes, which again, I think this could be… Taxing people out of their properties. And this was from Bloomberg. And we need to get people into these offices that are looking out for the taxpayer instead of the political machine there. And it says Chicago homeowners are getting hit with a record property tax hike after the city’s downtown office buildings and other commercial real estate values fell again. And, of course, a lot of the vacancies are due to COVID. It says the median residential bill climbed by 16.7%. According to a report from Maria Pappas, the Cook County treasurer, the record jump comes after commercial property values in Chicago’s loop. The core area of skyscrapers, financial firms and offices that drives much of its economy dropped by $379 million. So not only did you have the closure. So many offices because of COVID. But then additionally, remember the reports of crime in the loop and people quit going down there to shop because of crime. All of this is because of public policy. So it’s important that we connect all of those dots. We have these important discussions because of our sponsors. One of those is Hooters Restaurants, and they have locations in Loveland, Westminster, and in Aurora. Great specials Monday through Friday for lunch and for happy hour. In particular, they’ve got great nachos. 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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Also check out the website for the U.S. MC Memorial Foundation. They are doing great work maintaining the official memorial for the Marines, which is at 6th and Colfax right here in Colorado. And they’re raising money for a beautiful remodel. And so during the holiday season, a great gift would be to buy a brick to honor your loved one’s military service. And that brick will eventually be on their pathways of service. In the meantime, you’ll get a beautiful certificate that you can wrap up and give to your loved one for either Christmas or Hanukkah. Pleased to have on the line with me Carl Roberts, and he is with Colorado Resilience and has an important event that is occurring tomorrow. Carl Roberts, welcome.
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Oh, Kim, thank you so much for having me on this morning.
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Well, absolutely. So tell us a little bit about Colorado Resilience. That website is coloradoresilience.org. So tell us about this.
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You know, I’ve been in the advocacy of family court reform, CPS reform, domestic violence reform for, I don’t know, 10, 12 years, kind of ever since I went through the drill myself. But, yeah, we’re focused on about bringing solutions into these very broken systems as opposed to, you know, perpetuating the problems that they really cause. You know, here in Colorado, we spend over a billion dollars every year on family court, child protection services, and child support, and not a single dollar on prevention, really keeping kids and families out of these systems. There’s money in conflict, but there’s no money in prevention, right? And so when you deny a child a healthy, loving, fit parent, most often the father, then they’re more at greater risk of just about every societal ill costing us tens of billions of dollars downstream and in all the other systems so that’s the focus of colorado xerius is to keep two parents in the child’s life so everybody’s stronger healthier and wealthier
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So what have you seen? Are there many times that – so this would be during a divorce, correct? Or I guess it would also maybe not be a divorce. It could be a couple that’s not married. But do you see mothers trying to prevent fathers from being in children’s lives?
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You know, it absolutely goes both ways. But you’re absolutely right. I mean, if our core mission is to protect the health, safety, and well-being of children whose parents separated or divorced, and quite often it comes between, I mean, either one can be the bad actor, right? The mom or dad. And then when you get the financial incentives of the lawyers and the evaluators and the systems that kind of add on to that, Instead of putting the guardrails to kind of keep everybody on that better road to a brighter tomorrow, they grease the skids to send you on down to the low road, really causing so much more problem. But absolutely, there’s the incentives in the system to push parents apart as opposed to reward them for working together.
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Okay, because as you say, there’s money in conflict on this, but people suffer when that happens, and children suffer, correct? Yes.
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Oh, 100% of the time.
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So you are having a march tomorrow. Tell us about that.
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Yeah, it is, you know, again, being in this advocacy for so long and being an old white man, we don’t necessarily encourage that much sympathy in today’s society. But yeah, it is, I mean, so, you know, fatherlessness has been that… it’s just the greatest societal ill that, you know, that nobody talks about deals with. So this is our really kind of our, Moment in time, this is where we kind of hope to kick off something new for Colorado. It is about bringing attention to not only to the fathers that are pushed out, and again, many mothers are as well, but again, about how broken and problematic the systems are when they’re focused on conflict instead of protecting the child’s well-being. So, yeah, the march is tomorrow. We’re starting to convene at 12 o’clock on the West Capitol steps. We’ll march between 1230 and 1, and then we’ll speak. Then we’ve got a lot of speakers from beginning at 1 to about 145. People that have been in this equal shared parenting arena. We’ve got Aaron Lee, a local hero of mine, talking about parental rights. And Steve McKenna with Grandparents for Kids. And a few others that we have on the docket or on the agenda. And it’s really just about, again, protecting children that through equal share parenting and prevention and system avoidance as opposed to getting involved in the system so we’d love everybody’s support we love a great following for i mean this is not a right or left thing mom or dad thing it is a something should unite us as citizens and parents and communities to get out there and support for our children for our communities for ourselves
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Okay, and information regarding the march can be found at coloradoresilience.org. And is Colorado, have you looked at other states regarding these situations? Are there some states that do better than Colorado? Worse? What’s your experience on that? Or have you taken a look at other states, Carl?
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Yeah, I’m involved nationally and internationally with several different groups. And so there are some states that are making minor progress kind of, again, in the family court type arena and the CPS type arena. Colorado is certainly not one of them. Many of the laws that we’ve been passing here in Colorado have taken us backwards. Again, in those type of backwards laws, they’re not only the 1312 that we all know too well from last year, but again, laws that are, again, trying to tell judges to presume they’re accused is guilty. even after they’ve been proven innocent. So in trying to, again, trying to try to further legitimize false allegations, try to further, you know, again, incentivize weaponizing the system, trying to, again, weaponize victim services as opposed to protecting victims, true victims of violence. Yeah, there is just… So one of our speakers is a fellow by the name of Robert Garza. He’s out of Texas. He’s done some amazing things. And Texas is obviously a very different state, but he’s probably got about 30 or so bills, well, bills in about 30 different states that have been introduced in a couple of different states that have been passed. And so we’ve got You know, the legislative lineup. I’ve got three or four bills of his that I’m hoping that will get sponsored and introduced this next session. We’ve got in eight to 10 states have passed some form of equal or rebuttable shared parenting. but not Colorado. I first tried to pass a bill on that with Kevin Lundberg as my sponsor back in 2015. And, you know, after it got watered down to nothing, it got passed unanimously in the Senate, but then died in the House Judiciary, even though the Democrat, the Democratic chair was my sponsor then. And because, you know, the lawyers don’t want anything to do with something that reduces conflict, right? Because it’s going to reduce their billing hours. And quite honestly, the other group that is always opposed to shared parenting is domestic violence. Uh, because that, if you, if you kind of, if you, if you have, and all the data shows that when you got shared parenting, it’s a reduction in domestic violence. So there’s a lot to uncover, unpack it with all that. And I don’t want to go down that rabbit hole. That’s been way too much time, but, uh, That’s the challenge. Colorado has been going backwards as opposed to forwards.
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Well, and Carl Roberts with Colorado Resilience, as the president of the Colorado Union of Taxpayers, one of my jobs is to go through all the bills that are scheduled for a hearing during the legislative session. And then we look at those bills and how that matches up. We protect the taxpayer property rights, TABER, Colorado’s Taxpayers Bill of Rights, and parental rights as well. And to your point, what I have seen is there are really bill after bill that is stripping away parental rights and trying to weaken the family and make government, I think, bigger regarding children. But yet, I don’t think they really care about children. It’s just more about going after the family, I think. Yeah.
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It really is. And to the point where, again, Colorado spends over a billion dollars just on their state portion on all these systems. If they simply protected parental rights and required evidence to move any case forward or to remove a child, they would cut the caseload in half overnight. and not only would that cut the you know hundreds of millions of dollars out of the you know current budget without without a physical note or anything else just we would win that way then all those downstream systems of homelessness of criminal justice of mental health the whole nine yards would also start to decline just because more children can be raised with their fathers
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Wow. And so this is very solution-based. And on your website, you have this quote by Frederick Douglass, hopefully. And I saw it now. I don’t see it there. But it’s about raising. Do you remember what that is exactly?
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Oh, yeah. I preach it every day. But, yeah, it’s easier to build strong children than to repair broken men. And it’s as simple as protecting parental rights. and requiring evidence before moving anything forward that’s the investment for every dollar we invested in protecting those parental rights and requiring you know and ensuring due process we would save 25 to 50 dollars downstream on all the other systems wow okay uh so um the website is coloradoresilience.org and again the details for the march tomorrow Yeah, coloradoexperience.org slash march is the landing page. So we’ll start walking at 1230 from the West Capitol Steps tomorrow, and then we’ve got speakers from 1 to about 145 from the West Capitol Steps. So show up, show out. We’d love your support, and thank you so much.
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Well, Carl Roberts, you’re doing amazing work. Congratulations on that. And we’re running in the same circle, so I’m glad that we’ve gotten connected. This is good.
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Likewise. Likewise. I look forward to speaking with you again, Kim. Thank you so much for having me today.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. And are you ready for financial freedom? Call our friends at Mint Financial Strategies. As an independent firm and an accredited investment fiduciary, they always put your interests first. Mint means more than money. It stands for meaningful relationship, information sharing, a network of smart strategies, and a thoughtful advisor who puts you in control. No cookie-cutter plans. Everything is tailored to you. So call Mint Financial Strategies today. That number is 303-285-3080. 303-285-3080. And I also wanted to mention the Center for American Values, which is located in Pueblo. Pueblo is known as the home of heroes because there are four Medal of Honor recipients who grew up there. And the center is co-founded by Drew Dix and Brad Padula. And Drew is a Medal of Honor recipient for actions that he took during the Vietnam War. And they decided to start the center 15 years ago. In fact, they just celebrated their 15th anniversary on Friday. Veterans Day. And they wanted to keep these stories alive of these Medal of Honor recipients and also to take these foundational principles of honor, integrity, and patriotism so that we could continue continue to push forward this great American idea and these foundational principles of honor, integrity, and patriotism. And so support the center, and I’d highly recommend that you check it out. It certainly has changed my life, and it will change yours as well. And I would recommend that you take the kids down to the center sometime during the holidays. It would be a great day trip to Pueblo. And also you can enjoy the beautiful river walk there as well. And A Climate Conversation is the documentary that I was involved in and had the great honor to moderate it. We did that about three years ago. And Walt Johnson, it’s a project of Walt Johnson. He wanted to just have a conversation, a Socratic questioning of this whole issue. whole narrative regarding climate. And so he and his wife, Rami, took money from their retirement account and funded the project. The documentary has been shown on Newsmax a number of times. And It really just goes through and talks about it. And I’m hoping that we’ll be able to talk with our guest, Daniel Turner, regarding a piece that he has just written recently regarding Bill Gates as Bill Gates has come out. And he has said that climate change. Well, Daniel goes on to say he says it may have been jaw dropping, but Bill Gates deserves no credit for his stunning reversal on climate change. Not just because he spent years falsely warning of the pending doomsday or writing a book titled How to Avoid a Climate Disaster. Not even because he was so late in the game nearly exactly a year ago. The American public ended the climate change debate when they returned President Trump, who ran an unapologetic platform of unleashing American dominance and elected him to the White House. However, in Mr. Gates’ recent U-turn, notwithstanding, has bankrolled environmental groups that continue to undermine the Trump administration’s efforts to implement pro-energy agenda in America, which is what America voted for and America needs. And so Daniel went on to say, oh, we have him now. Daniel Turner, welcome to the show.
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Oh, Kim, I’m sorry for my silly delay, but it is great to be on with you as always. Thank you.
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Well, I know you’ve got a lot of things going on because you’re doing such important work. You are the founder and executive director of Power the Future. And I was going through this piece that was published recently in The New York Times regarding Hold the Applause on Bill Gates’ Climate U-Turn. This was a headline that many people saw that basically Bill Gates said that climate change was not going to be the end of civilization, but you’ve uncovered some other information.
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Yeah, and this is like an onion, this piece of news, because there are so many layers. First off, I think what’s most important when it comes to the Bill Gates flip-flop, if you want to call it, is that we’ve been told for the last 30 years, and you and your excellent documentary, which I can’t recommend enough, A Climate Conversation, right? You have emphasized that phrase, the science is settled, the science is settled. We’ve been told for decades. The science is settled. Well, what changed in the science in the last month? Nothing. Right. If Bill Gates had pointed to a new study from a university that showed X, Y or Z or a new ice core sample came out or knew something, something, you would say, OK, well, that makes sense. That is the scientific process. Right. There’s new evidence and new data comes out. You adapt and you incorporate that into the body of knowledge. But nothing changed in the climate space. It’s just as if Bill Gates woke up one day and said, you know what? I don’t think it’s an existential crisis. So that blows the lid off of this idea. The science is settled and 97% of scientists agree. And all of those statistics that were used to silence us, right, to silence any dissent. So I think that’s just an important launching point. I thought it was done, right? I thought we weren’t allowed to have differing opinions. The science is settled. So, again, it’s just a frustrating factoid that says, ah, so you admit all along you were kind of lying to us about the quote-unquote science.
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So the question is why? And I’m thinking it’s the data centers, that they want all of this power for the data centers to collect data on everyday people. And these data centers aren’t just about completing your sentence or writing something up for you if you have a question. It’s collecting data on everyday Americans and a lot of it. And I’m wondering if that’s why he all of a sudden made this U-turn.
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That’s what I think. I put this on my personal sub stack. And this, again, it’s my own personal hypothesis, but I like to say great minds think alike. So I don’t know if I’m complimenting you, Kim, or myself, but great minds think alike. I agree. I think if you are Bill Gates. Money is not an object anymore. He’s worth $200 billion. There’s nothing in the world that he could not possibly buy if he so wanted it. But what’s more attractive than money at a certain point is power. And the climate movement was always about power, as was the COVID movement. I think if you are a statist, if you relish power over people, It’s exciting to tell them what type of car they have to drive for climate change or whether or not they’re allowed to commute to work because of COVID or how they have to eat a hamburger or if they’re allowed a hamburger. Those are the types of power conversations that get people like Bill Gates excited. AI is the ultimate power, and we’re just scratching the surface of what AI can do. And I think if you are someone like Bill Gates… the belief that you can be on every device for every single person in the entire world at the same time and within nanoseconds transmit them, quote-unquote, your truth, or modify what they’re watching if you don’t like what they’re watching. Or we’ve seen conversations about how AI will be used to change the human genome. There are people at the World Economic Forum that had whole summits about whether or not AI can modify the genetic code so that we are allergic to meat. And scientists have said how fascinating that will be, because if we no longer can process meat, then we won’t have the cattle industry, and that’s good for the climate. I mean, there’s some really scary, scary stuff about what AI could potentially do. There’s some amazing things, of course, but there’s also some scary stuff. And so if you’re Bill Gates, you look at that and you say, wow, that is a power I desperately want. And I think I deserve because he’s Bill Gates. He will tell you about what vaccine you should take. He will tell you what type of food you’re allowed to eat. He makes the bugs. Right. He makes butter out of carbon dioxide. He makes meat out of out of chemicals and wants you to eat those things exclusively. Right. The AI power is so exciting, and what is haltering AI is the lack of electricity. And the reason why is the climate movement. So if you’re Bill Gates, this is a calculated formula. If the climate movement is hampering AI production, and AI is my ticket to world control, then the climate movement gets thrown overboard, plain and simple.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, so many well-meaning people have been sold on economic benefits or fill in the blank for these data centers. And I am very concerned about this. And I don’t know if we can get this turned around. The Trump administration looks at AI and says we want to be a world leader in it. What do you think about that, Daniel Turner?
SPEAKER 15 :
I don’t think they’re mutually exclusive, but I am with you that we are building AI data centers faster than we are putting in the infrastructure to maintain them. The average data center, just in round numbers, uses the equivalent of 100,000 homes. in terms of water and electricity consumption. So if you think your neighborhood is going to put up three data centers, ask yourself, does your neighborhood have the infrastructure for 300,000 new homes? Look at a rural community where, and we’ve all seen this, it’s happening nonstop where I live, and it’s very sad. Look at a rural community where someone sold your grandpa’s farm, the kids didn’t want it, they sold it to a developer, and they built 600 homes. And the community, well, the county board thinks it’s great because they see 600 houses of tax revenue, and they talk about job creation, and they talk about growth. But if you live on that little tiny dirt road, you’re suddenly in bumper-to-bumper traffic. If you’re sending your kid to the local school, you’re suddenly in the classroom that’s got 60 students and there’s no extra space. And you scratch your head and say, who’s benefiting from these 600 homes? I get it. We need houses. But did the houses have to come at my personal expense? That’s what we’re doing with data centers. We are building them faster than the infrastructure. And by the time it catches up to us, it is going to be a huge problem.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. We are talking with the founder and executive director of Power of the Future, Daniel Turner. We’re talking about Bill Gates’ U-turn regarding climate. And I hadn’t really thought about that until you said this, Daniel, that there was no new report. There was no new scientific report. study. There was nothing new. Bill Gates just all of a sudden said that climate change is not going to destroy the planet or something like that. Basically, that means that they’ve been lying to us for a long time in order to control what we do.
SPEAKER 15 :
And it’s very infuriating because your documentary, which I reference again, you interview a number of scientists who have been ostracized and persecuted because of their same conclusion that Bill Gates drew. But Bill Gates gets that luxury because he’s on the right side of the political left because he supported Trump. Hillary and Kamala because he writes checks to these climate groups, and he still does. Don’t get us wrong. He has said this is not an existential crisis. Humanity is not at risk. But he will still pony up millions and millions of dollars to keep these groups from smashing in his windows or protesting his private jet, just the way corporate America does with BLM or name your liberal cause. If you give them money, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are the kings of this. You know, we will call you a racist unless you give us money. And they say, OK, I’ll give you money, so leave me alone. So Bill Gates will continue to fund these climate groups. But there are dozens and hundreds of scientists whose lives and careers were destroyed because they looked at that same data, but 20, 30 years ago or a month ago, arrived to the same conclusion. You know, this is not an existential crisis. Of course, we want clean air and clean water, but we are not in grave danger. And the fact that Bill Gates gets to do it so willy-nilly, without repercussion, shows that this is not a movement of science. This is a movement of politics. And political movements can be very, very dangerous. Political leftist movements are always very, very dangerous.
SPEAKER 05 :
So, Daniel Turner, out here in the West, and I have had Cheyenne, Wyoming realtor, Wendy Volk on. She’s going to be on again tomorrow. And her family, she married into a family, six-generation ranchers, about 25 miles northwest of Cheyenne. And in June, they received a certified letter that said that neighboring property, that there was going to be a 56,000-acre industrial wind project. Wow. So this had been in the works for quite some time, but they only had just found out. So she read all of the documents and informed people on what was happening. And at the county commissioner’s meeting, they denied that permit for that 56,000 acre property. industrial wind project. Now, the narrative there is that there’s a number of data centers that they want to build in Cheyenne. It can be quite windy through that particular area. But I also see, and then we had in Elbert County commissioners and El Paso County commissioners denied Excel a permit for transmission lines. And that… Excel’s been out using eminent domain to try to take farmers and ranchers’ land and are trying to get those eminent domain cases bundled and expedited through the legal system. I see also that this industrial wind, solar, battery, transmission lines is a big land grab and an assault upon property rights. What’s your thoughts on that?
SPEAKER 15 :
A hundred percent. And these people should be congratulated for standing up to big wind and for getting the permits rejected. And it’s very similar to any sort of development for the county commissioners who just look usually at dollar figures. It’s money. And they say, hey, this is great. This is tax revenue. This is and I get it. They have a job to do. But what does it mean for the local community? And no one ever knocks on our doors and says, hey, we’re going to build X, Y, or Z. What will it do to your life? And so where I live in Shenandoah, Virginia, we see similar projects going on. And our little tiny dirt roads. are still little tiny dirt roads, but they’re full of traffic now. And the county’s not going to spend any money to upgrade the roads, because that costs money. But they will give you all the permits necessary for you to build, whether it’s a wind farm, a data center. Where I live in the state of the Commonwealth of Virginia, the two-thirds of the nation’s data centers are located. When I drive to D.C., which is a roughly two hour drive, I pass probably every single one of them. And now they have had to use a Republican governor, mind you, has had to use eminent domain to bring transmission lines from West Virginia, which has a lot of coal and a lot of coal electricity because we need electricity. And there are a number of farmers and ranchers and wealthy horse estates. where they were told, yeah, sorry, this is not up for negotiation. This is the power of imminent domain. We are putting these lines, and these aren’t little tiny telephone poles, right? These are these big monster, and not only are they putting them on your land, but you have to give them 24-7 permit access for them to do whatever they need to. So now your land is not your land, and now your land is an electricity facility. superhighway. So this is the problem with these infrastructure projects that are on the surface attractive, but need a lot more thought because they are ruining people’s properties and people’s livelihoods.
SPEAKER 05 :
So I went out, Daniel, and testified in Albert County because I’ve driven through there. I grew up in western Kansas, so I’ve driven through there for many years. And I thought, gosh, this is in my backyard. I better go out and see what’s going on. And so got to the hearing and Excel had two tables of attorneys and staff. And we’ve all seen this, this, this. this whole game i almost would say and that is is that the staff from county presents the project then the applicant presents the project and the permit their application was not even complete but there was probably 200 farmers and ranchers that had taken time away from their daily lives so that they could testify at this hearing and a credit to these albert county commissioners They made sure everyone that signed up to speak had the opportunity to speak. And then they adjourned the meeting and made the decision to deny. the next day. But when I made my finally about six o’clock, I got the meeting started at two, I thought I should probably make some comments as well. And I and the other thing about this transmission line is Excel does not provide power to this county. So they’re using eminent domain to take people’s land and they don’t even get power from this. It’s it’s terrible. But I said to the Albert County commissioners, I said, You don’t work for Excel. You represent the people of Albert County. And your duty is to protect their private property rights. And I think so many electeds get into office and they think, oh, I work for the city, not for the constituents, and our job is to drive revenue or whatever. That’s not our electeds’ job. Their job is to protect our private property rights.
SPEAKER 15 :
100%. It’s that great line of Ronald Reagan, may he rest in peace, where he said, our Constitution doesn’t tell us what government’s allowed to do. It tells government what we will give them permission to do. I’m paraphrasing. Reagan, of course, said it better. But that’s the essential thing. Our elected officials don’t work for corporations or they don’t work for invested interests. They work for the people who put them there and to protect their property and to protect their rights. I’ve done a number of town halls where there are proposed wind and solar farms. And they’ve always been contentious. I’ve had some very nasty and threatening exchanges with the people whose businesses I am putting at risk, you know, the wind and solar companies. But all I’ve told is the landowner, I’m never going to tell you what to do with your land. It is your land. And I believe in property rights. If you want to give this company permission for a hundred year lease to put up wind farms. And I understand the offer is attractive, but I just walk them through a lot of the details and just ask them to think about this. Details like when a tornado comes through here and shatters it into millions of pieces, who’s responsible for cleanup? And the five months of that cleanup when nothing is producing electricity because it was destroyed, are you still getting that revenue check every month that they promised? Or if there is no wind for a whole month, The funny thing about the wind is that usually the hotter it is during the day, the less the wind blows. We all know that if we’ve grown up in a farm area, right? It’s hot. It’s three in the afternoon and the wind is still. Are you getting paid that month? Probably not. You know, hundreds of thousands of gallons of ball bearing fluid and lubricant and diesel are in those machines. And when they leak, who does the groundwater contamination? What does it mean to the aquifer? You know, if I drill well, the amount of environmental impact statements I have to do is mind boggling. If they want to put up a solar farm or a wind farm, those are all waived because they are classified as green. So there is no environmental impact until, of course, a solar panel shatters into thousands of pieces of crystalline quartzite and it gets wet and it leaches chemicals into the groundwater. How’s your… What does that mean for your livestock, your cattle, your aquifer, your drinking water, future crop generation? And I just, again, never tell you what to do with your land. But is the company walking you through this level of detail before they ask you to sign on the dotted line? And always my takeaway is no one loves your land more than you do. And when – and I love saying this as a fellow farmer – when have we as farmers – ever had someone knock on a door and say, I’m going to make you rich and had it come to fruition. And usually people side with me because once the truth is out there, it’s a compelling argument. So kudos to you for speaking truth to that as well. I understand corporations have a job to do, but you don’t get to do it on the backs of landowners and farmers who oftentimes are cash strapped and use them to your advantage, use them as leverage to get what you want.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, and they’re cash strapped many times because of high property taxes. And we need to take away these incentives for these industrial wind and solar projects. We’ve got about a minute left. The Trump administration has said, I think they’re going to do. What are you seeing on that, Daniel Turner? Sure.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, they’re gone already, and that’s why this last shutdown was so important, because of those subsidies, the EV subsidies, the wind and solar. Now, in the immediate, we are seeing electricity prices rise, absolutely. If you live in an area that was wind and solar dependent, you were getting hundreds of millions of dollars from the government to keep prices artificially down. Those subsidies are gone. So, yes, you’re going to see your electric bill go up and they’re going to blame Trump, but they should blame Joe Biden and the Democrats who put these terrible programs in place to begin with.
SPEAKER 05 :
OK, Daniel Turner, you’re doing such great work. We will talk again soon. I wish you and yours a very blessed Thanksgiving and keep up the great work.
SPEAKER 15 :
God bless you, Kim. Thank you.
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And our quote for the end of the show is from William Penn from Some Fruits of Solitude, 1693. And so many times I hear from one of our great listeners, Jenny, that she basically has said this same particular quote. But again, William Penn wrote this 1693. He said, Our law says well. To delay justice is injustice. Or she says justice delayed is justice denied. So my friends, today be grateful. Read great books. Think good thoughts. Listen to beautiful music. Communicate and listen well. Live honestly and authentically. Strive for high ideals. And like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you. God bless America. Stay tuned for hour number two.
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Indeed, let’s have a conversation, and welcome to our number two of the Kim Monson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You each are treasured, you’re valued, you have purpose. Today’s drive for excellence, take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body, my friends. We were made for this moment in history. Thank you to the team. That’s Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, Amanda, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Tuesday, Producer Joe. Happy Tuesday, Kim. and a riveting conversation with Daniel Turner with Power of the Future in hour number one. If you missed that, that will rebroadcast today in the one to two hour. This hour rebroadcast 10 to 11 at night, and that’s on all KLZ 560 platforms. And then after that, it will be posted on my website with a podcast, or you can listen to it via Spotify and iTunes as well. But a lot of messages coming in on the text line, so I’ll try to get into this, regarding Bill Gates and his climate… Thank you so much for having me. that powers our lives, fuels our hopes and dreams, and empowers us to change our own personal climate, to be warm in the winter and cool in the summer. And any help with that, if you’re having any challenges with your heating or your cooling, be sure and reach out to great show sponsor, Ben’s Plumbing, Heating, and Cooling. And all that information is on my website. Their phone number is there. But if you’re having trouble being warm in the winter or cool in the summer, reach out to Ben’s Plumbing, Heating, and Cooling. Our word of the day is cogitation. And Gammy had texted me after hour number one that we need less cogitation and more action. But cogitation is, number one, thoughtful consideration or meditation. Number two, a serious thought, a carefully considered reflection. Or number three, the act of thinking, thought, meditation, and contemplation. But it does take some real cogitation to understand these issues. And it can be very thought-provoking. So I will let you cogitate regarding the conversation with Daniel Turner and Bill Gates, which was Bill Gates’ U-turn regarding climate. Our quote of the day is from William Penn. He was born in 1644. He died in 1718. He was an English writer, theologian, religious thinker, and influential Quaker who founded the province of Pennsylvania during the British colonial era. He was an advocate of democracy and religious freedom, and he was known for his amicable relations and successful treaties with the Lenape Indian tribes who had resided in present-day Pennsylvania prior to European settlements there. He said this, and this is again William Penn, Some Fruits of Solitude from 1693. He said, justice is justly represented blind because she sees no difference in the party’s concern. She has but one scale and weight. For rich or poor, great or small. And that’s where that information, one of the lead-ins to the show sometimes is where I’ve said that if you have special rights, you can’t have equal rights. And so when we started to have judges in courts, decide to treat people differently regarding their descriptors, that is antithetical to justice. And again, that was William Penn all those years ago. And some of the things coming in on the text line. First of all, let’s see here. This is from Susan. She said that was a great interview. I got a lot of new talking points out of that. She said it could have been a rant on Paramount Series Landman. I have not watched Landman. In fact, Sondra had recommended that. I don’t watch much TV, but they say that that’s quite good. And this is from Sandra. She said, it is my opinion that Bill Gates has always skewed his pet projects over the years. Stand by, there could be more of his antics, such as the COVID vaccine. And another, let’s see here on the text line, it says, it is interesting that Bill Gates always changes his beliefs when it benefits his profits and profile. That’s a very excellent note. And then this is from Jenny, says that Bill Gates has beat the climate horse to death. He’s now moving on to his next moneymaker, nuclear. If I recall hearing, he’s moving to build a nuclear plant in northwest Wyoming. Okay. So stay tuned on all of this. We have these important discussions because I work with amazing people as sponsors, and they all strive for excellence as they take care of their clients and their customers. And on the line with me is John Bozen with Bozen Law. If you’ve been injured, you definitely want to reach out to them. John Bozen, what should people know today? And welcome.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, it sounds like I missed a really interesting conversation regarding the Bill Gates debacle.
SPEAKER 05 :
Super interesting.
SPEAKER 14 :
More loss of credibility for Bill. I appreciate you calling him out. I wish I could have heard the whole story. I guess I can later today.
SPEAKER 05 :
You can. And basically what Daniel said was there was no new scientific study. There was no new information. Bill Gates just all of a sudden decided that he wanted to say that climate change is no longer possible. A threat to civilization. And Daniel and I both came to the same hypothesis conclusion that it’s because he can profit significantly from these data centers and also all the power that he would have over people’s lives. So, yeah, it was pretty interesting.
SPEAKER 14 :
They can’t have both, can you? Yeah. And when you said is no longer, you should have said never was.
SPEAKER 05 :
Good point. Good point. And again, no scientific study, nothing. He just said it. And Daniel made a great point. And he was one of our guests for our Climate Conversation podcast series. And he had referenced a climate conversation that we had scientists there that at great… risk, they’d come out and said, no, this is not true. And people had their careers destroyed when they said that this is not true. And now here, Bill Gates just says, okay, it’s not. It’s pretty crazy, John.
SPEAKER 14 :
A lot of similarities there with the COVID shot.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes. Yeah, connect that dot as well.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, absolutely. Well, I guess this morning, we hadn’t talked about it for a little while, so the GLP-1s, the Wegovia and ozempic and a host of many others things are moving along and i am personally at my office receiving more calls from folks reporting gastroparesis reporting intestinal obstructions and pancreatitis and so it’s happening as more and more people start using these glp-1s they’re going to start suffering the side effects. And a lot of these folks calling me now, things happened back in 2022, early 23. Not sure why they didn’t hear about the litigation that’s begun before then, but folks are finally starting to wake up and understand that, hey, there’s some serious problems with these GLP-1s, and maybe that extra 5, 10 pounds of weight loss isn’t worth it.
SPEAKER 05 :
So, John, I thought I saw a headline that the Trump administration had negotiated reduced prices for some of these kinds of drugs. Did I say that correctly?
SPEAKER 14 :
You did. I don’t agree with our president on everything. This is one I really don’t like. And I listen to the doctor on Fox talk about the benefits of it. Never bring up any of the adverse effects or problems that people are having with it. I don’t. Well, I think I do understand that, but I’m not sure. I wish Trump would would listen to some of his other advisers with regard to some of this stuff, because it is doing major harm, not to everyone. All of us are individual. We have different physical makeup. Some drugs affect people’s people differently than others. And so. If we go way back to the fen-fen days, I did that litigation, and we had some people that would take the diet-drug combination for 30 days and have life-threatening problems, others that took it for six, eight months, no symptoms, no side effects whatsoever. The problem is… you need to have disclosure from the pharmaceuticals, from the manufacturers. And that’s what, you know, they have not even today come out and fully disclosed all the problems that folks are having. Their claim, of course, is there’s no proof. It’s not related, but, you know, somebody starts on the GLP-1, and one week later they’re having major, major problems with their intestinal fortitude.
SPEAKER 05 :
So if it’s disclosed, your point is just disclosure. And so if someone, if all this information is disclosed and someone with their doctor decides then to go down that regimen, then, okay, their eyes are wide open. But that’s what this is all about is just disclosure, right, John?
SPEAKER 14 :
It is. And, well, yes. And testing that they’ve done, they know the problems that folks are having. They’re not disclosing it. Kind of like smoking. I mean, we’ve known for decades now that smoking is harmful for your health. So if somebody chooses to do it at this point with all of the information, everything out there, you suffer the consequences. You’re going to have a real problem suing the manufacturers of cigarettes. Okay. Same thing here.
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Okay. So if people would just like to have a conversation, complimentary conversation with you or someone at your firm, what’s the best way for people to reach you?
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Well, and yes, that’s 303-999-9999. And then, John, we’re going to record something for next week, which is Thanksgiving week, because we’re pre-recording all those shows. But I wish you and yours a very blessed Thanksgiving.
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And back at you, Kim. We have a lot to be thankful for.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. And in fact, I hope to get one of these calzones later today. I’m going to be driving by Little Richie’s Pizza and Pasta in Parker. They have locations Parker and Golden. And they have authentic New York flavor with Colorado roots. From daily specials and weekday lunch deals to a happy hour worth planning around. They are your neighborhood favorite and a great hangout. They’re always serving up something worth stopping for. And again, their calzones are delicious. And that’s Little Richie’s Pizza, which is located in both Golden and in Parker. On the line with me is Sam Dorman. He is a Washington correspondent covering courts and politics for the Epoch Times. You can follow him on X at Epoch of Dorman. Sam Dorman, welcome to the show.
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Hi Kim, how are you?
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I am well and wanted to begin with this piece that you recently published regarding congressional Democrats are urging Supreme Court to limit Trump’s power to remove officials of independent agencies. But as the executive of the executive branch and these agencies fall under the executive branch, it seems to me like he should have the power to do that. What’s your thoughts?
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, there’s a question of whether or not there actually are so-called independent agencies within the executive branch. This has been a long-running issue. There was a Supreme Court case in 1935 called Humphrey’s Executor. And it basically said that Congress was allowed to place limits on some of these agencies, so like the Federal Trade Commission. Then later there was – now we have a bunch of these agencies, like the National Labor Relations Board, Merit Systems Protection Board, Consumer Product Safety Commission. And Trump has fired a bunch of these people. And continually these lower courts have cited this decision from Humphrey’s executor, basically saying that because these agencies are – You know, either quasi-judicial or quasi-legislative. And it’s kind of unclear what those terms mean, to be honest. But they basically, the idea is that they’re sort of carrying out the will of Congress within the executive branch. And because of that, Congress can set limits on how the president can fire those individuals.
SPEAKER 05 :
But could Congress fire those individuals or are they kind of rogue? They’re bureaucrats, they’re unaccountable, unelected. So how could we fire them?
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, I think that so they do allow the president to fire them for cause or something like the statutory language is negligence or malfeasance. But it’s kind of unclear what that means as well. But the bottom line is basically Trump can’t just fire them because he has policy differences with these individuals. And I think the idea is that they’re supposed to be these neutral regulators that are, even though they’re partisan, for example, they’re appointed by certain parties or they’re associated with certain parties, it’s still this idea that they’re not going to be interfered with by, you know, kind of arbitrary political agendas. But yeah, there’s a question of whether or not, I mean, what kind of democratic accountability is there then? If these people sort of have permanent positions, they have, you know, they have terms, but If the leader that people elect can’t actually remove those individuals based on policy priorities, then is there any democratic accountability in that system?
SPEAKER 05 :
Boy, it sure seems like that is not the case. And I had mentioned this headline in the first hour. And I had remembered and mentioned also when I was on city council 2012 to 2016, Public Works made a presentation regarding waters of the U.S. And basically the EPA was going to use waters of the U.S. to… control even the water going down the gutter in front of your house and so for them to say that these um agencies are not driven by politics is really a head in the sand kind of a thing i think yeah well it’s interesting because the idea is that there’s supposed to be these um
SPEAKER 19 :
They’re supposed to be independent, and then they’re supposed to have a balance of Republicans and Democrats. So the FTC is supposed to have, I think it’s like two or three from each party, commissioners from each party. So yeah, there is sort of a partisan element to it, but at the same time, they’re supposed to be independent. So yeah, it’s a weird inner branch creation that I think the Supreme Court has indicated that they’re willing to And more recent decisions that they’re willing to give the president more power over these individuals based on his authority in Article two of the Constitution.
SPEAKER 05 :
OK, I’m thinking about that. So if I like what Trump is doing, I would like that decision. But if there was a different president with a different agenda. Right. Gosh, maybe I wouldn’t. This is a dilemma.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, I mean, this is the issue. I think you kind of have to ask, what was the founding era intending? Did they want to have these independent agencies, or were they thinking more along the lines of these types of complex regulations coming from Congress? um because you know and and this is kind of part of the question too is like what exactly is quasi legislative authority and what is executive authority it’s quasi legislative authority purely uh is it something more than enforcing the law um or are you actually creating laws because if you’re creating laws how much does that infringe on congress’s you know what congress is supposed to do um so yeah i think it’ll be interesting because i mean this case so Just to be clear, this case that’s coming up in December is about Trump’s attempt to fire the FTC commissioner, Rebecca Slaughter. And I think it’s going to—well, basically what the Supreme Court is considering is whether or not they want to overturn this longstanding precedent, Humphrey’s executor, but they could also just say that— Basically, even with that precedent, the president’s removal power allows him to remove this particular commissioner because of how much, so like one of the arguments in the administration is that the FTC has changed so much over recent years that they have so much more executive power that the president should actually, you know, he should have more power in this particular situation than he would have in 1935.
SPEAKER 05 :
So I think you’ve hit on this foundational question, and that is really, I think, maybe the Constitution versus the living Constitution. What did the founders – what did they really envision? And I don’t think they ever envisioned – well – I guess this is my opinion. They did not envision an unelected, unaccountable, insulated administrative state. And so this would be a big step, I think, in the right direction to move us back to our constitutional principles, Sam. Yeah.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, in another case that’s coming up in January, you may have been following Trump’s firing of the Federal Reserve Board of Governors member, Lisa Cook.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right.
SPEAKER 19 :
And that’s kind of even more raising the question because the Supreme Court has said that the Fed even sort of has this level of independence that’s beyond what these independent agencies have. And I know, I mean, this is kind of a controversial issue, right? Like how much independence should the Federal Reserve actually have? But that that that’s going to come up again in January. And they’re going to have to look at that case in particular will be more about what exactly is a for cause removal and what kind of justifications Trump can use to remove a member of the Federal Reserve.
SPEAKER 05 :
And that particular case, the allegations are that she didn’t tell the truth regarding a mortgage, right?
SPEAKER 19 :
Right, yes. Yeah, the idea is that she committed mortgage fraud. Basically, I think it was that she was saying she was going to use a certain property for a reason other than what she actually used it for. She’s denied that she engaged in wrongdoing. And then even her attorneys are saying, even if this is true, it’s not a legitimate reason under the Federal Reserve Act to remove Lisa Cook from the Federal Reserve.
SPEAKER 05 :
Huh. So if she is, it’s interesting they’re dancing around like that. But it seems like, again, my opinion, lying would mean that you might lose your job on that.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, especially because she’s a financial regulator, right? Yeah. Something Trump mentioned in his letter. But I think a big question looming over all these lawsuits is how much discretion Trump has in and deciding that certain conditions are met under law. Or just how much discretion does Trump have even in this case? And just sort of saying there’s a reasonable basis for removing her without the judiciary coming in and saying, actually, that’s not the case. You were wrong in determining that. And this is something that came up, for example, in the National Guard case and then also in the tariffs lawsuit, where there’s this question of whether or not judges can actually say, You were wrong to say that you have an inability to execute the law. You were wrong to say that there’s a rebellion and therefore you can federalize the National Guard.
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SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, and I think that’s the major question, right, is how much the president, who’s a democratically elected official, can actually exercise authority over the executive branch, which is responsible for, like, some of these agencies, right, the Federal Trade Commission, have vast powers to sort of interrogate or to enforce laws against these companies in the United States. And then also one of the things that the Solicitor General mentioned in his brief to the Supreme Court article was that there’s even an aspect in which the Federal Trade Commission engages in foreign relations by, I think, working with foreign governments on certain legal issues. And so that foreign relations is generally something that’s reserved for the president.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay. So the Supreme Court, I don’t quite understand when they meet and the decisions come out. So the court is convened right now, obviously, because they’re hearing these cases, yes? Correct.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yes, yeah. They started oral argument in October.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay. And how many cases do they normally hear in a day, and how long? There’s two, is it called terms? What, a spring term and a fall term? Refresh my memory on that.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, so they have, I mean, they have, like, this is the 2025 to 2026 term, so it’ll last from October to October of next year. But generally what happens is that, you know, they start oral argument in October. I think that oral arguments usually go to like May, and then in June is when you get all the really big decisions. But during this time, you know, they’re deciding whether or not to accept new cases, and then they’re scheduling oral arguments. So it’s kind of a rolling process. And then even with Trump’s emergency docket, appeals, which are these appeals where he’s trying to temporarily block a lower court order on his policies. Those have been going through the Supreme Court throughout the summer. So I think they’ve actually been pretty busy, even during what would normally be their summer break.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay. Okay. So you just published this yesterday, that Letitia James files a new motion to dismiss alleging outrageous conduct. So walk us through this, Sam Dorman.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, that’s kind of an interesting one because I think usually when you see motions to dismiss, it’s like, you know, vindictive prosecution or in Letitia James and James Comey’s cases, it’s been based on the legitimacy of Lindsay Halligan’s appointment. But Letitia James is trying to basically, I think a lot of the arguments she uses in this motion are things that she’s raised before. And she’s just saying that this sort of meets a higher bar of misconduct by the Justice Department that should lead the judge to dismiss the case because it’s in violation of her Fifth Amendment right to due process. And so she’s citing things like she’s claiming that basically that Bill Pulte of the Federal Housing Finance Agency had weaponized the department and had maybe illegally accessed Her information, her mortgage information, this is like a Lisa Cook case as well, because Leticia James, you know, the concern is about whether or not she committed some kind of fraud and obtaining a loan on a mortgage for a house. So there’s, yeah, so she’s making that argument. But really, I mean, she’s also making this argument about Lindsey Halligan, who’s the acting U.S. attorney or interim attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia. And there was a hearing about this last week that was actually pretty interesting. There was a joint hearing with Comey’s attorneys and Letitia James’ attorneys, basically arguing that Lindsey Halligan was invalidly appointed under federal law. And so, you know, And really, like I said, some of these motions are repeating the same arguments, but the basic kind of thrust of these arguments from James Comey and Letitia James are that Trump sort of engaged in this last-minute attempt to secure indictments against them because there were no prosecutors that would actually bring the cases. And so then, you know, he… He had pressured Pam Bondi, and then she quickly appointed Lindsey Halligan, who’s a former White House advisor. And then Lindsey Halligan brought the indictments, despite there not being enough evidence.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay. So what about Comey? And what are the allegations against Comey? You said on Letitia James with this particular case, it’s, again, possibly mortgage fraud. What’s this regarding Comey?
SPEAKER 19 :
Sure. So the Justice Department is saying that Comey had lied to Congress. I think it was a few years ago, at least. But it’s based on these testimonies that he gave to Congress at two different points. And there’s a point where Ted Cruz was asking him a question about whether he had authorized certain leaks to the media during certain investigations. And then Comey’s It’s kind of confusing. You have to sort of look at the language and go back and look at what he said. But basically, Comey had said, I stand by my previous testimony, which is he was talking to, this was years ago, but he was talking to Chuck Grassley about a similar issue of leaks. And so, like I said, the wording, you have to sort of look at the specific wording. And Comey’s trying to say that the way that Ted Cruz had phrased the question to him was vague and ambiguous, and basically the DOJ is maybe reading too much into what Ted Cruz and what James Comey had said. But the basic gist of it is that the Justice Department is alleging that Comey had lied about leaking information to this Columbia law professor. His last name is Richmond. and that he had – or not leaking to this guy, but authorizing leaks to the media through this guy.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay. So it seems to me like Comey may be doing some jujitsu regarding what he said. What do you think?
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, and these are – you know, with attorneys and legal issues, it’s always like you have to really track the words carefully because they’re, I think – very careful with the way that they phrase things. And so, yeah, to be honest, it’s hard to tell. And I think if there is a trial, that would help to maybe sort out what exactly Comey meant when he said that he had stood by his previous testimony about not allowing leaks and what exactly the Justice Department is thinking that Ted Cruz had asked him. Because Yeah, even just if you watch the videos, it’s still kind of unclear, and you read the motions, and you’re still just kind of like, well, what exactly do they mean in this situation? So I think Comey’s definitely trying to throw everything he can at this lawsuit, and so he’s making arguments that, the indictment’s vague, that basically the Justice Department is misconstruing what he said, but then he’s also bringing these other arguments about Trump engaging in a vindictive prosecution against him.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, fascinating. What about, let’s see, who is it? It’s Brennan, Comey, and is it Comer? I can’t remember. Those three guys. What do you think is going to happen with them and all this legal stuff that’s going on? And these are three guys that were, what, in the Obama administration, Biden administration? Yeah.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, are you talking about the indictments against, I think, do you mean John Bolton?
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, no, I was trying to think of the three. So it was Brennan, Comey, but yeah, there’s also John Bolton, but that’s not who I was thinking of.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I don’t know. I don’t think there’s been any indictment against John Brennan yet. And I think Trump was pushing for something against, for example, Adam Schiff. So it does look like he’s pursuing these people. It’s just a question of whether or not these judges are going to grant these motions to dismiss, because even though these motions to dismiss, they generally have to meet a pretty high legal bar for people to prove, for example, a vindictive prosecution. There is this long record of Trump criticizing having these public feuds with people like Letitia James, John Brennan and, you know, other people. And so they’re They’re using, you know, these motions are using those statements to basically say this is evidence that, you know, he’s targeting us selectively. But we’ll see. I don’t know. We’ll see what the judges say. I mean, the Justice Department is making this argument that, you know, there is an actual crime here. And so regardless of what Trump might have said, you know, it’s like, should there be some kind of consequences here?
SPEAKER 05 :
If there was a crime. And last question, John Bolton. This was quite interesting. His home was raided, correct? And he served in Republican administrations. What’s your thoughts about him?
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, that’s an interesting case because he served in the Bush administration, and then he also served in Trump’s administration as well. And the allegations are basically that he improperly stored classified information on his private server, but also shared that information with two members of his family. And I think there’s been reporting that it was his wife and his daughter who And so I think that one of the things that his attorney has said is that basically the classified information was coming through notes that Bolton had taken during meetings, during these high-level meetings about national security, and that basically diary entries are not actually illegal. But the Trump administration is saying this is a violation under the Espionage Act, which is pretty serious law. and that it involves, you know, like thousands of documents. And so I think that case is… Yeah, that’s a pretty dangerous case, I guess, for John Bolton. But yeah, a lot of these are in the preliminary stages, so it’s still kind of hard to see how this will play out because they still have to go through things like discovery and getting some of the evidence surrounding the indictments. But also, if they do reach trial, you’ll have witnesses, and so the facts may change in that situation as well.
SPEAKER 05 :
So, Sam Dorman, you’ve got a pretty fascinating beat here regarding the Supreme Court and everything that’s going on, right?
SPEAKER 19 :
Yes, it’s very interesting.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay, and again, people can follow you where at X?
SPEAKER 19 :
Epoch of Dorman, and then also there’s, yeah, you can go on our website and go to my author page there.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right, and just put in Epoch Times and Dorman and everything will come up. Sam, thank you so much. Super interesting stuff, and you’re doing a great job, so thank you.
SPEAKER 19 :
Alright, thank you, Kim. Have a good one.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. And on the line with me is Susan Harris, a good friend and great sponsor of the show, her and her family. Welcome to the show, Susan Harris. Hi, Kim. Good morning. Well, it’s good to have you. And I always enjoy your perspective on things that are happening in current events. And so I wanted to ask you about this whole Epstein thing. It looks like Trump has now said that he would endorse the push to release the Jeffrey Epstein files. And it looks like the Republicans in Congress are going to pass a bill to do so. What’s your perspective on this?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, my first perspective is that the whole thing is very confusing, quite frankly. And it’s hard to navigate what’s really happening because there are so many twists and turns and also so many conflicting interests when you take a look at the whole thing, including, you know, that quite frankly most of us just assumed that once trump was elected it was a no-brainer that all that was going to come out and um and then it it didn’t happen and it got very i’ll just say strange to be honest i agree um yeah and and nothing that we expected to happen happened and we even got kind of led down a road that didn’t make any sense at least that’s That was my the way I saw things. Nothing made sense anymore about the entire Epstein situation. But, you know, the main thing that I’m taking from what’s happening now, well, there are a couple of things. One is it’s so obvious that the left is desperate, you know, that they they’re just grasping at straw to try to bring Trump down. with any tiny little thread that they can possibly find. And they continue to push out lie after lie after lie just to see if it’ll take hold. And it’s not working. Luckily, it works for 30 seconds, and then it doesn’t work because they consistently shoot themselves in the foot with the way that they’re trying to do things. So that’s my first tip. observation about the whole situation.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, and the people that only watch mainstream media, the allegations, the consistent allegations, I think is being pushed out there to create this narrative that Trump is just a really bad, evil guy. Oh, definitely. And if people only watch that, That’s what they’re hearing.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes, and I think that’s true no matter what the issue is. You know, every issue, that’s true. If you watch CNN or MSNBC or the major networks, that is the narrative, and that’s pretty much all you’re going to hear. So, you know, I’ve come to determine that people that get all of their news that way There’s not really anything you can do to try to convince them that the man that is characterized by the media, by those media, is not who’s in the White House. Yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
You know, I’ve even seen it here in Colorado, though, from more conservative news outlets that they pick and choose what is going to be reported as well. And so as I am preparing and going through headlines, I am adding in Axios, which leans to the left, or the Center Square, or the Denverite. I’m also accessing those so that we can have maybe a more – balanced approach on these headlines.
SPEAKER 03 :
I think that’s a good strategy, definitely, to bring those viewpoints in to be considered, because it should all be considered. You know, the BBC right now, the obvious lying that they have been doing, and it’s so blatant when you splice together pieces of speeches that So that they say things completely opposite of what the person actually said. And you’re never held accountable for that. Even though a few people had to resign, they still believed that they told the truth. And it’s just mind-boggling. Or they want you to believe that that’s what they believe. I know they don’t really believe that. But…
SPEAKER 05 :
You have to question what is going on when people know that they’re actually – it ends up being a lie. If you are trying to manufacture a narrative by splicing different things together, it’s really – and as you mentioned, a couple of people had lost their jobs. And I used to go to the BBC thinking that because they were over in Britain that they might be a little less partial, but obviously that’s not been the case.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. I mean, yeah. So again, you know, these quote unquote mainstream media sources that we try to put some level of trust in, again, they have failed us. And it’s unfortunate, but I think the, you know, the Epstein situation is interesting because Trump is obviously not afraid of what’s in these files. And one of the one of the at least with it with regards to himself i think and this is just my opinion kim i think there are things going on internationally that we are not privy to that are influencing that entire situation because i do think it’s very likely epstein was an intelligence operative and He worked in an international capacity, and he was used to blackmail many, many people. And I think because of the international impact of all of that information being released and how just sensitive and precarious the peace in the Middle East is right now, I think that is one of the big reasons that they put the brakes on the entire Epstein situation. They’re trying to get peace in the Middle East and really other places around the world, too. And releasing that information is going to maybe jeopardize all of that.
SPEAKER 05 :
Interesting. I hadn’t thought about that. I have heard, for example, when people go to Congress, we have so many people that run for office, get elected. And then months later, you’re like, what happened to this person that I elected? And I’ve heard that when you go to Washington, D.C. as an elected, you need to be very careful about parties and what might get put in your drink. end up waking up with some very damaging potential photos and things like that and being blackmailed.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, you know, it’s very interesting. It seems like whenever people are elected, it’s almost instantaneous that they become the bureaucratic deep state that you were trying to avoid. So it is very interesting how that seems to happen time and time again.
SPEAKER 05 :
Going back to Epstein and Trump, I’ve read different reports that, yes, Epstein and Trump knew each other. And it would make sense that they went to different parties together. There’s a photo of Epstein and Trump together. But I’ve also read reports that Trump kicked – Epstein out of Mar-a-Lago once he realized what Epstein was allegedly doing regarding young girls.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, and I don’t even know if he really knew exactly about that when he kicked him out of Mar-a-Lago. I think he was angry that they were poaching his employees from his spa. I don’t even know if he knew why that they were doing that. But I think that’s what was upsetting him is that they were, you know, interfering with his business initially. And but then ultimately, even I think I wish I could remember all the names and all the players. But one of the attorneys for Epstein even came out this week and reiterated that Trump went to the police. He was one of the first. people to go to the police and say, you need to look into this guy. So, you know, it’s hard to say exactly what happened. And I don’t know that we’ll ever know. But it doesn’t make sense that Trump is the president of the United States and the Democrats had any information at all that they could have used to keep that from happening regarding this case.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. If there was any smoke there whatsoever, the Democrats would have used that for sure. Right. Susan Harris, interesting. And again, what will we know? There’s a lot of theater going on. I really appreciate you and your family as great goal sponsors of the show. And I just want to get your final thought on gratitude on Thanksgiving that’s coming up.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, you know, I am really looking forward to this Thanksgiving. I’m fortunate to have all of my children coming in town. And I just want to say something that Jesus said to his disciples like just hours before he was going to be arrested and he knew what was going to happen to him. And what he said to them was, peace I leave with you. My peace I give you. Not as the world gives. And it just blows my mind, Kim, that he told his disciples not to let their hearts be troubled at that moment. And I think… With all of this, you know, political, worldwide, global, even local politics that we can get involved in, we really need to focus. And Thanksgiving is such a great time to refocus our hearts. And it’s our job not to let our hearts be troubled and not to be afraid. And that’s the only way that… we can express the peace of God out into the world.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, Susan Harris, that is absolutely beautiful. I wish you and yours a very blessed Thanksgiving, and thank you.
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