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Join us on The Kim Munson Show as we dive into today’s hottest topics surrounding politics and world affairs. Kim and her guests unpack the complexities of zoning changes and comprehensive plans affecting local Colorado communities. Through the lens of freedom versus force, they analyze recent state legislation’s impacts, including density mandates and the push for urban living alternatives. Tune in as we question whether coercive policies truly foster a free society and explore how top-down dictates can stifle local autonomy.
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It’s the Kim Munson Show, analyzing the most important stories.
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An early childhood taxing district? What on earth is that?
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The latest in politics and world affairs.
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I don’t think that we should be passing legislation that is so complicated that people kind of throw up their hands and say, I can’t understand that.
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Today’s current opinions and ideas.
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And it’s not fair just because you’re a big business that you get a break on this and the little guy doesn’t.
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Is it freedom or is it force? Let’s have a conversation.
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Indeed, let’s have a conversation and welcome to the Kim Munson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You each are treasured, you’re valued, you have purpose. Today, strive for excellence, take care of your heart, your soul, your mind and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. And thank you to the team. That’s producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, Amanda, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. It is Friday and Joe, we have gotten a lot done this week.
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Yes, ma’am. We have great work.
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Great work as well. As you know, we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through this lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something is a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And it’s never compassionate nor altruistic to take other people’s stuff. whether or not it’s their rights, their property, freedomhood, livelihood, opportunity, childhoods, or lives via force. And force can obviously be a weapon, but it can be policy and unpredictable and excessive taxation, fear, coercion, government-induced inflation, the agenda of the World Economic Forum and the globalist elites that plays out at the United Nations, but it’s playing out all the way down to our local governments as well. through zoning changes and comprehensive plans, all kinds of things like that. And we’re seeing that in a number of municipalities right here in Colorado. And then we see the Colorado State Legislature and the governor have passed legislation and he signed it to take more control of our local communities and push density, putting people into teeny tiny apartments and wanting them to ride around on bikes and walk and buses and trains. That’s the opposite of freedom that has force all over it and coercion. People want to live in an apartment and they want to ride the bus or a train or a bike or walk. That’s great that they should have that choice, but it should not be subsidized nor coerced, subsidized by us or coerced by the government. On the show, we focus on these issues and Instead of personalities, we’re really trying to stay out of the emotion and the passion and really dissect these issues with reason. And so we will continue to do that on the show. Do check out my website, which is KimMunson.com, if you’ve not signed up for the weekly email newsletter that goes out on Sundays. please do so because you will get first look at our upcoming guests as well as our most recent essays. And then also while you are at the website, at the top of the website is a red ribbon, and you can just… Click on that, and you can download our voter’s guide. Just put in your name and your address, and it’s extensive regarding both of the statewide issues as well as the five Denver bond issues. It does include descriptions from CML, Colorado Municipal League, on different issues that are on a number of different ballots. Fort Collins is out of their mind with some of the things that they’re asking. Really, those things, you should answer no. to those things. And then also I included the county clerk’s phone numbers so you can reach out to them to get more information about candidates. Also for your local elections, reach out to your city clerks. They’ll give you the phone numbers or emails of the candidates. And it’s important that you do your research. And I did give you some suggested questions to ask these different candidates for city council and mayor. And then also regarding school board races, there’s a lot of school board races. A great tool on that or resource on that is transformcolorado.org. And that is transformcolorado.org. So do check that out as well. Also, I did not include in the voter’s guide information. I live in the South Metro Fire and Protection District, and they are on my ballot requesting $50 million annually and not even really discussing that. the merits on that because we’ve already had significant property increases, property tax increases. So I’m not sure about that. I’ve not analyzed that. But what I do know is they are asking to de-tabor or de-bruce the additional revenue, excess revenue that they might collect above that $50 million. And I think that’s quite greedy. Instead of just $50 million, they’re asking for it all. And it’s kind of sneaky. This has been happening for quite some time on many of these different ballot questions. And I first noticed it on a South Suburban Recreation and Park District bond and didn’t quite understand what was going on because I had people that said, oh, that’s been de-tapered, that’s been de-bruised. And this is what they have been doing is sneaking that into the language. So we say no on that until these districts and when they start to ask for money that they stay to what they’re really asking instead of all the excess revenue. So I’m recommending a no on that as well. And I think that you can probably take that as analysis for anything that’s being asked for on your district or on your ballot as well. It is Friday, and first thing, I will share the word of the day with you, and it’s gadfly. And my former producer, Steve, and I had been trying to get together, and he and I went out and looked at a project the other day, and he brought up the word gadfly, and it’s spelled G-A-D-F-L-Y. And number one, a definition could be a persistent, irritating critic, a nuisance. Number two, it could be one that acts as a provocative stimulus, a goad. And number three, any of various flies, especially a warble fly, bot fly, or horse fly that bite or annoy livestock and other animals. And I would say that the no kings rallies is really a gadfly regarding those that are fighting for the American idea. And so your challenge, though, is to use gadfly, G-A-D-F-L-Y, in a sentence today. The big… Actually, I think I’ll do some of these headlines. Well, I think that the big news right now, and it seems to have the Democrats… And remember, this Democrat Party is not the Democrat Party of JFK or your grandfather or your grandmother. This Democrat Party has been taken over by radical activists, many of them that don’t like America. And… So Trump, they’re demolishing the east wing of the White House. And it was a complex built in 1902, significantly expanded in 1942. And he is building a White House state ballroom. And it had served as the office for the first lady and her staff, including the White House social sector secretary, correspondent staff and White House graphics and calligraphy office. And there was a colonnade in between the East Wing and the White House. And that’s being torn down for this new ballroom. Okay. As I’m doing a little more research, I looked at this, and this is from Axios Denver. This says, this Denver company donated to Trump’s $300 million ballroom. And that is Palantir, which is an AI company. And they’re among one of the corporate donors footing part of the bill for the ballroom. And They have deep ties with the Trump administration. As you all know, I’m very concerned about data collection on Americans. And Palantir is doing a lot of military work. I have some neighbors that stopped and said, hey, Kim, we really think they’re a great company. They are… focused on our American security, and we think it’s a great company. And it’s probably like anything. This information could be used for good, as far as taking out bad guys, but I’m very concerned about data collection on all of us. But anyway, they are one of the donors to the White House new state policy, And then this is from USA Today. Some of the other companies that are helping to foot the bill are Google, Amazon, Meta, Microsoft, and Apple. Others include Coinbase, Ripple, and Tether. And so… Anyway, he’s having these, I think the thing I get concerned about is making sure that the line of influence is not crossed over. And so it can be tricky, but that’s one of the reasons why it’s important that we talk about it and shed light on it so that we are all aware of it. It is Friday, so that means that today’s quote is from the Center for American Values quote book. And I talked to Henry Jones, who is head of the board, yesterday, and he said so many of our listeners will be down at the center and they’ll say, hey, how did you hear about us? And they said the Kim Munson show. And then he said that many people say, oh, I’ve got to bring my kids back, my parents, my friends. And the portraits of valor of our Medal of Honor recipients with their quotes is really a special, special place. So they did create a Medal of Honor quote book, which is a great gift for Christmas or for Hanukkah. And on Fridays, we take a quote from that. And today’s quote is from Melvin Morris. United States Army Medal of Honor recipient born in 1942. Actions that he took on September 17, 1969. And this is his citation. It says, Staff Sergeant Melvin Morris distinguished himself by acts of gallantry and intrepidity above and beyond the call of duty while serving as commander of strike force drawn from Company D, 5th Special Forces Group, Airborne 1st Special Forces. forces during combat operations against an armed enemy in the vicinity of Chi Lang, Republic of Vietnam, on September 17, 1969. On that afternoon, Staff Sergeant Morris affiliated companies encountered an extensive enemy minefield and were subsequently engaged by a hostile force. Staff Sergeant Morris learned by radio that a fellow team commander had been killed near an enemy bunker. and he immediately reorganized his men into an effective assault posture before advancing forward and splitting off two men to recover the team commander’s body. Observing the maneuver, the hostile force concentrated its fire on Staff Sergeant Morris’s three-man element and successfully wounded both men accompanying him. After assisting the two wounded men back to his force’s lines, Staff Sergeant Morris charged forward into withering enemy fire with only his men’s suppressive fire as cover. While enemy machine gun emplacements continuously directed strafing fusillades against him, Staff Sergeant Morris destroyed the positions with hand grenades and continued his assault, ultimately eliminating four bunkers. Upon reaching the bunker nearest the fallen team commander, Staff Sergeant Morris repulsed the enemy, retrieved his comrade, and began the arduous trek back to friendly lines. He was wounded three times as he struggled forward, but ultimately succeeded in returning his fallen comrade to a friendly position. Staff Sergeant Morris’s extraordinary heroism and selflessness above and beyond the call of duty are in keeping with the highest traditions of military service and reflect great credit upon himself, his unit, and the United States Army. And this is what he said. 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Indeed, it is Friday, and welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. I did want to say thank you to Laramie Energy for their gold sponsorship of the show. It is reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant power from oil, natural gas, and coal, which are naturally occurring hydrocarbons that powers our lives, fuels our hopes and dreams, and empowers us to change our own personal climate to be warm in the winter and cool in the summer. And it is election season, and it’s important that you know the candidates. There’s a number of school board races out there right now. And very pleased to have on the line with me Lori Goble. She is running for school board for the Thompson School Board. Lori, welcome to the show.
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Thank you very much, Kim. I appreciate you having me on this morning. Well, tell us a little bit about yourself, Lori. Just very quickly, I was born and raised in the Midwest. I’ve been living here in Loveland for over 22 years and have been very involved in our community and a lot in as far as Non-profits, my husband and I, we pastor a church, Faith Now Ministries, or Faith Now Fellowship, actually. We had Faith Now Ministries when we were going and doing prison ministry for over 18 years. And I have a record of service for the community here in Loveland. I served on the Planning Commission two years as chair, as well as other activities that I’ve been involved in.
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Okay, so you’re running for school board. Why?
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The simple why is because of my grandchildren and great-grandchildren. I see what the need is here in Thompson and I can invest here in Thompson. This younger generation. A lot of times the parents are so busy with their jobs running their children from one activity to another, whether it’s school activities or other things. And they just do not have the time to run a campaign and to be seated on the school board. I, however, having already raised my children, have that time and the energy to do that. And these are the peers of my grandchildren, my great-grandchildren. This is the upcoming generation, and we have to invest in it and invest wisely.
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So I agree with you. We have such a responsibility for our children, our grandchildren. And what do you think are the main issues that you are concerned with that might be happening at Thompson School District?
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First and foremost is the education. The number one job of our schools is We have our schools in place to educate the children and the CMAS scores continue to decline. We have 60 plus percent of children that are not proficient at grade level. And when we are taking our tax money, our taxpayers dollars and investing it in our children, that’s not a very good return. We need to be doing better. And especially for the children, they need to be fully equipped, which is one of the main points of my campaign is we need to make sure our children are fully equipped when they graduate high school, that that diploma means something and that they are actually truly prepared for a future filled with success.
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Well, graduating kids that are 60% proficient is not success. I know that many times people look at graduation rates, but it’s not graduation rates we should really look at. It’s proficiency. And if kids cannot read, proficiently by third grade, it makes it more difficult for them to have success in the future. And according to at least when I was in school a long time ago, Lori Goebbels, if I got 60% on something or less than 60%, that’s a D or an F. So we’re not doing a very good job on this, right?
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We are not doing a very good job. And as far as the proficiency, they are classifying that 60% are not at grade level. And many times it’s more than one grade level. I mean, it’s not just that they’re falling behind. It’s that they are multiple grade levels below where they should be. And that’s, what’s very disturbing, whether it’s in re and it looks at, you have to look at the different subjects. And that varies from subject to subject, whether it’s math or reading and the different grade levels. We are not getting the outcome that our children deserve.
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Well, and I think also what the community is paying for. Lori Goebbels, thank you for stepping forward to run for Thompson School Board. How can people get more information about you?
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Very simply, it’s VoteLoriGobel.com is my website. So once again, VoteLoriGobel, G-O-E-B-E-L.com. And I encourage everybody to get involved in one effort. fashion or another and invite them to step up and especially spread the word that we have some great candidates out there and I would appreciate their vote. Thank you.
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Okay. Lori Goebel and Lori is spelled L-O-R-I and Goebel is G-O-E-B-E-L. Lori, thank you so much.
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Thank you so much, Kim. You have a wonderful day.
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You as well. And any candidate that reaches out to me, I will find some time to get them onto the show because I think it’s so important that we hear from these candidates. And we have Mary Buchanan on the line with us, and she is a candidate also for Thompson School Board. Mary Buchanan, welcome. Thank you.
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Thank you so much for having me. I appreciate you helping me spread the word. Absolutely. So Mary, tell us a little bit about you. Yeah. Um, I was born and raised in here in Loveland, Colorado. Um, I come from a family of 10 kids and we are all a product of TSD schools, Thompson school district. And I also have a daughter in the district. Um, um, you know, really proud to keep that, uh, legacy continue. I have really strong roots in the community. My family has been very active doing a lot of community outreach and community service. My daughter and I volunteer at the Vets Club for Thanksgiving dinner. I’ve done a lot of volunteer work in her school as well as with just different places around the country trying to help people with low incomes with their house repairs and things like that.
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Okay. Well, so the next question is the why. Why have you thrown your hat in the ring for Thompson School District School Board?
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Well, you know, like my father taught me when I was a kid, just by watching what he did, you know, I see a need and I know that I have the responsibility and the ability to fill it. So I’m seeing, you know, I feel like parents have taken a backseat in their children’s education for far too long, and I think that we need to be able to be at the forefront of all the conversations involving our children. There’s a pretty huge wedge between the parent-educator-child bond, and I think we need to bridge that gap if we want to have any success in moving forward as a district and bettering our, our children and our future. And, uh, you know, I think that a lot of the, like Lori mentioned, uh, the academics are really falling behind early on, which is, you know, the crucial point where we need to be instilling this, these abilities in our children. And, and it’s just, not setting kids up for success. And I think that if parents were more involved in everything and if we focused more on the basic academics and not so much all the social aspects that should be handled between parents and their children, I think we could really make a huge difference in our schools and our test scores and just shaping our children’s futures.
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So what’s one of the first things that you would like to do if elected to Thompson School Board?
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Well, the first thing I’d like to do is try to find a way to bridge the communication gap between the district leadership, parents, staff. I think there’s a lot of tension, and I don’t know that there’s a lot of – being brought to the table because the communication isn’t there. The conversations are pretty hostile, I think, just in this political environment anyway. And I would love to nothing more than to try to mediate those conversations and find real solutions that benefit everybody.
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Okay. Well, how can people get more information about you, Mary Buchanan, who is a candidate for Thompson School District?
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Yeah, so I have a website called Mary4TSD.com. That’s Mary, the word for F-O-R-T-S-D for ThompsonSchoolDistrict.com. And then I also have, if you want to join in on the conversation, Facebook.com slash Mary4TSD. Okay. And my last name is spelled B-U-C-H-A-N-A-N.
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Okay. Well, Mary, thank you so much for stepping forward. Now the election ballots are due back by November 4th. And so again, thank you. And that is Mary for, which is spelled out F-O-R-T-S-D, standing for ThompsonSchoolDistrict.com. Thank you so much. And I wish you all kinds of luck. Thank you so much, Kim. You have a good day. Absolutely. These are such important conversations. We have them because of our sponsors. We’ll be talking with them in the next hour. And that is Alicia Garcia and Teddy Collins with the Second Syndicate.
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Hi, Kim. Good morning. Thanks for having me on.
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Good to have you. And people can. Well, what is your Web site to get all the information about you?
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Sure. Well, I’m writing pretty much exclusively now on Substack. So Robert Bryce dot Substack dot com.
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And Bryce is spelled B-R-Y-C-E. And you’ve done three very important documentaries. And one is Juice, Power, Politics, and the Grid. Another one is Juice, How Electricity Explains the World. And then we had had you on and talked about this one sunblock, The Global Fight to Save Farmland from Big Solar. These are very important documentaries, Robert Bryce.
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Well, thank you, Kim. I’m proud of all of them. The first film we made in 2019, Juice, How Electricity Explains the World, is a feature-length documentary. It’s 90 minutes. I’m very proud of that. With my colleague Tyson Culver, we did another project called Juice, Power, Politics, and the Grid, which is a five-part docuseries. They’re both free on YouTube. You can go to juicetheseries.com or juicethemovie.com. And then with my daughter, Mary, I just made a very, what I call a mini documentary called Sunblock, which is the global fight to save farmland from big solar. We made it here in Texas. Just to give you a quick example, why did I write it? Because in the three-county area near Temple, Texas, in Bell Falls and Milam County, Kim, There have already been over 40 square miles of prime ranch and farmland in central Texas have been paved with solar panels. I mean, it’s insanity. I’m pro-solar, but this fight to save farmland is happening all around the world, and we use Texas as an example of how local people are saying, we don’t want these projects here, and we don’t want to be giving up prime farmland to solar.
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Well, and the thing about it is that solar is living off of favorable governmental policies or maybe tax incentives or tax credits or a variety of things. So it’s not a free market. It’s a coerced market. getting all of these solar panels in or wind turbines as well. But connecting the dot of taking prime farm and ranch land out of production, that will increase the prices of things at the grocery store in the urban areas. If we keep this up, we’re going to have shortages, Robert Price.
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Well, I mean, that may be, Kim, you know, that’s projecting out of the future. I think what, you know, to me, what the more immediate issue is, what this is doing to rural communities. And so to me, the issue is it’s all the land use policy and energy policy are two sides of the same coin. When you have energy policy, you’re determining land use and land use determining energy policy. But what we’re seeing all over the world, I mean, let’s just look in Colorado. So big, big fights in Colorado over the siting of solar and wind projects. But just this summer, if you look where you’re in Denver, look at what happened in Elbert and El Paso counties in June and July, where you had the entire county commissions in those counties vote unanimously to refuse permission to Xcel Energy to build that high voltage project to the Power Pathway Colorado project. through their counties. And why was Xcel wanting to do it? Because of the mandates in Colorado for alternative energy, for renewables. And so these land use issues are, yes, it’s about saving farmland. Yes, it’s about local communities fighting wind and solar projects and keeping the character of their communities. But it’s also about the transmission projects. So All of these land use conflicts are happening all over the world. I’ve documented them in the Renewable Rejection Database. It’s the story in the energy business.
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So what’s happened with that, because I went down and testified in Elbert County because that’s in my backyard, and these county commissioners in El Paso County and Elbert County are really, I think, courageous in standing for for their constituents. In my comments, I said, you represent your constituents and their property rights, and you don’t work for Xcel Energy. And Xcel Energy had all kinds of, they had two lines of tables of consultants and attorneys there. And those commissioners listened to every farmer and rancher, every property owner that was there. which I have to give them credit for as well. And here was all of these farmers and ranchers taking time away from producing on their farms and ranches to make comments at this public hearing. And yes, the Elbert County commissioners voted no to deny the permit. Robert, the permit, Excel’s permit was not even complete. But now what has happened is Excel has sued both Elbert County and El Paso County. What do you think about that?
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Well, hello, Kim. I mean, aren’t you cute? Big money is going to try and roll over small town America. I mean, this is what’s happened over and over and over and over and over again. Out of state, often out of country, foreign corporations go into rural communities, and if they don’t get what they want, they try to roll over them. I’ve seen this over and over again, whether it’s solar projects, whether it’s wind projects. Another example, a big utility, NextEra Energy, the biggest producer of alternative energy in the world. Went into Hinton, Oklahoma a few years ago. The town of Hinton said, we don’t want these wind turbines so close to the town. What did NextEra do? They sued them in state and federal court. So what Excel is doing in Colorado is this is the playbook. Big corporate interest in a land grab, which is what this is fundamentally at root. What is this? It’s a land grab to try and satisfy this craze around alternative energy. That’s it. Full stop.
SPEAKER 19 :
OK. Any other comments on that? Because Excel’s been out there threatening eminent domain with many of these small ranchers and farmers and scaring them. And they’re like, I don’t have the amount of money that’s needed to hire attorneys to fight this. So what would be your advice to them?
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Well, one, look at the renewable rejection database, which is on my website at robertbrice.com. I guess my first point is you’re not alone, right? These battles that rural Americans, rural Coloradans, rural, you know, we see this in England, Scotland, Ireland, which, by the way, just since the first of the year in England, Ireland and Scotland, there have been 53 rejections of wind or solar projects. So these land use conflicts are not unique. You know, these farmers, these ranchers, these local merchants, you know, I tell them, you know, you’re special, but you’re not unique. You know, this is happening all over the world. The second thing is that what I’ve seen over and over is that when rural communities get together and they have a coordinated opposition, they can win. So, you know, that would be my, you know, 1A, don’t lose heart. You’re not alone. When people, when they band together, they can fight big money and big corporate interests.
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And welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. Check out our website. That’s Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. While you’re there, click on the red ribbon at the top of the website and you will put in your name and your email address and you will receive a link to download my voter’s guide, which I hope will be a great tool for you as you are completing your ballot, which is due back on November 4th. I can’t believe that November is right around the corner. And so is Veterans Day, which is November 11th. On November 8th, the USMC Memorial Foundation will be hosting an event out at the USMC Memorial. And it’s so important to honor and remember those that have given their lives or been willing to give their lives for our veterans. for our freedom. And of course, Veterans Day is a time to honor our veterans. And you can get more information about that by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. I’m so pleased to be talking with Robert Price. He’s an author, speaker, film producer. He’s been writing about energy, power, politics, and innovation for more than three decades. Check out these important documentaries he’s done, Sunblock, The Global Fight to Save Farmland from Big Solar, Juice, How Electricity Explains the World, and Juice, Power Politics and the Grid. That website is robertbryce.com, and you can find him at Substack and Robert Bryce as well. And I get your emails that highlight what you’re looking at, Robert, and I’m so interested, so many questions about these SMRs, which are small modular reactors, so nuclear reactors. So for people that don’t know what they are exactly, explain that, please.
SPEAKER 15 :
Sure. So we’ve been using nuclear power here in the U.S. now since the 50s, right? And in the last few years, there’s been a resurgence in interest in nuclear for a lot of reasons, including climate change, including now the over-reliance on the electric grid, on natural gas, on pro-natural gas. But I fear that we’re becoming too reliant on it and the situation is playing out in Colorado in a major way. But the reactors that we’ve been building, including the two that have been completed most recently here in the U.S., Vogel 3 and Vogel 4 in Georgia, which is owned by Georgia Power, the reactors are owned by Georgia Power, which is part of Southern Company. Those projects, those reactors are over 1,000 megawatts. Well, they’re very big, and the projects cost, they were over budget and over time, and ultimately cost over $30 billion. Well, so the alternative that has been developing now for years are small modular reactors with the idea that Instead of building gigawatt scale, that is 1,000 megawatts and above, giant reactors, we would build smaller ones. So they would be from anywhere from, say, 1 to 2 to 5 megawatts to 300 megawatts. That’s kind of what’s the general scale of what falls under this term SMR, small modular reactor. So what is going on now… In the U.S. and around the world, there’s a race to develop and deploy these. And as I’ve written many times, the U.S. is far behind China and Russia when it comes to the development and deployment of these SMRs. That said, there’s an enormous amount of interest, there’s an enormous amount of capital that is flowing into the U.S. companies that are in this space. A number of them have gone public, including Oklo, NuScale, and then there are other companies that are developing these that are already established, including GE, Vernova, BWX Technologies. There’s a lot of promise here, and I’m very hopeful. I’m also very sober about the future of small modular reactors because there are a lot of hurdles that have to be overcome.
SPEAKER 19 :
So what do they look like? How much land do they take up?
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, this is the key that we were talking before the break about wind and solar and the need to connect them to the best wind and solar resources are far from cities. That means you have to build high voltage transmission lines from rural areas into the cities. But that’s the great thing about small modular reactors is they have very small footprints, and they can be located close to the power demand. So one of the drivers of a lot of this interest in SMRs is big tech, because AI, of course, as everyone knows now, is requiring enormous amounts of power. You’ve seen big tech companies like Amazon sign deals with small modular reactor companies. Amazon did one with a company called X-Energy to do gas-cooled reactors. Kairos, another startup SMR company, has a deal with Google Microsoft is going to do an offtake agreement with a nuclear reactor at Three Mile Island. So these are important developments because big tech, these companies, Microsoft, Google, Meta, Amazon, have essentially unmanned. limited amounts of money to throw at this. And they need staggering amounts of power. So, yes, they’re building gas power plants now, but they’re looking to the future and putting some of their money and bets on small modular reactors.
SPEAKER 19 :
Okay. So, as you mentioned, there’s a lot of money that’s going into this. Another one of your articles is you’re following these IPOs, these initial public offerings. And I… For… Earlier in my life, I was in the investment business. I also had worked on a stock trading desk. And so I know all the fervor that can occur around these IPOs that can really inflate the price of the stock after it comes to market because of all the hype and interest. So there’s a lot of… After I read your article, I felt there was a lot of hype regarding these IPOs.
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Oh, my gosh. Hype is the right word. Just to give you one example, so… This was earlier this month. Fermi or Fermi America is the proper name. But Fermi trades under the ticker FRMI went public. And this is a company that was co-founded by the former secretary of energy, Rick Perry. Kim, this is a company. They say they’re going to build gas fired power plants and nuclear reactors on a site near Amarillo, Texas, to fuel data centers and A.I., This is a company that has no tangible assets. They’re not building anything. All they have, effectively, is a business plan. And yet, their market cap of this company is now something like $12 billion. It’s cartoonish. Or look at NuScale Power, a company that I first wrote about in 2008. It’s traded publicly under the ticker SMR. I haven’t checked today, but I think the market cap of that company is still around $5 billion. They’ve never built a reactor. This is a company that has been losing money hand over fist. They lost $3,400 million last year. They still have this extravagant valuation. And I would short that company if I was smart enough to go short. I’m barely smart enough to go long. I was thinking the same thing. The hype around these companies is just unbelievable. And who can blame them by going public if they can cash in on the public markets? That’s what they’re going to do.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, I was just thinking the same thing. But the trick with shorting the stock or the market is the timing. And so you never know about that. So that can be quite, quite tricky. Next question. And I’ll just say, and we’re not giving any market advice, but it is a function of markets. When things get overvalued and overinflated, there will be a correction at some point. We just never know exactly when that’s going to be. Right.
SPEAKER 15 :
And a lot of this is tied, just to be clear, a lot of this is tied to AI. Right. And there’s a, you know, what we, you know, Greenspan would have called irrational exuberance. Right. That, you know, all of this money flowing into AI companies and they’re spending staggering amounts of money. But are these companies, these big tech companies, are they ever going to make money on AI? But for the moment, there seems an almost infinite amount of money available for those entities that say, we can build the power plants to power data centers for AI. And so there’s just staggering sums of money flowing into that. And in the near term, it’s all essentially effectively going into natural gas-fired power plants. But I’m hopeful that over the next 10 years or so, we will see the SMR business mature and start to deploy at gigawatt scale the kind of reactors that are going to be needed to diversify the power on our grid.
SPEAKER 19 :
Okay, next question. AI, again, there’s a lot of hype around that, but we see these big data centers that are being built. I’m concerned about data collection on Americans. I’m concerned how that matches up against the Fourth Amendment. That’s probably another discussion. Is that anything you comment on, Robert Price?
SPEAKER 15 :
No, Kim, that’s really not my bailiwick. I agree with you that it’s a concern, but maybe I’m cynical about this, but I think in the modern world, privacy is dead. I just think there’s the big tech and these other companies, the credit and scoring agencies, everybody. I’m easy to find, right? I’m a fairly public person, but I’ve done investigative work, and it’s not hard to find data on pretty much anyone.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, that is true. We have just a few minutes left. We’ve all heard dangers of Chernobyl, nuclear, and it’s scary. The Jane Fonda movie years ago, the China syndrome, all that. What’s the danger with these SMRs, these small modular reactors?
SPEAKER 15 :
The danger is that we don’t build them. The reality is that the fear of radiation has been much more dangerous than radiation itself. The Sierra Club, Greenpeace, NRDC, these big NGOs that claim to care about climate, these are retrograde organizations. These groups have hurt the American economy by their fear-mongering around nuclear energy. They’ve hurt our grid. These entities are… I really find them to be loathsome in many ways because of how they’ve used propaganda to fight the development and deployment of nuclear energy in America over the last five decades. And so the public sentiment, I’ll cut to the chase, the public sentiment around nuclear has changed. We have a much more pro-nuclear electorate than we did a few years ago. And I think that’s very positive. And I think there’s a lot of momentum behind nuclear energy. And I’m very hopeful. I’m sober about it, but I’m very hopeful that the U.S. is going to get in gear and start catching up to where Russia and China are on the nuclear front.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, and they are way ahead of us on this. Correct, Robert? I saw in one of your articles.
SPEAKER 15 :
Miles ahead of us, years ahead of us. The Russians with Ross Adam, their state-controlled champion, they are developing and deploying small modular reactors, floating nuclear power plants. The Chinese just recently tested the ACP-100, which is their SMR, and they are going to start deploying those. We need we need this for a lot of reasons. Technological leadership. We need it for energy security. We need it for national security. We need it for technological leadership. And, you know, I have my criticism of the Trump administration, but on the nuclear front and energy in general, they are right. They’re doing all the right things.
SPEAKER 19 :
OK, and you and your son are keeping a database, probably the most extensive database around. How can people find that?
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, thank you. Yes, Jacob is our youngest, and he’s done great work on this. He lives in Berlin, and he and I have worked together on what we call SMR Intelligence US and SMR Intelligence Global, which are the only compendia of the global SMR contenders. So those are available on my Substack, robertbrice.substack.com.
SPEAKER 19 :
Okay, Robert Brice, we are out of time. Thank you so much. We’ve all learned so much. Keep up the great work. We’ll talk again soon.
SPEAKER 15 :
It’s my pleasure. Thank you, Kim.
SPEAKER 19 :
And our quote for the end of the show, we went, oh gosh, who did we go to, Joe? I didn’t write it down. Oh, was it Milton Friedman? Now I can’t remember. I think it was. He said inflation, okay, yes, Milton Friedman. He said this, inflation is the one form of taxation that can be imposed without legislation. So, my friends, today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you. God bless America. Stay tuned for hour number two.
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indeed let’s have a conversation and welcome to our number two of the kim munson show thank you so much for joining us you each are treasured you’re valued you have purpose today strive for excellence take care of your heart your soul your mind and your body my friends we were made for this moment in history and thank you uh thank you to the team that’s producer joe luke rachel zach echo charlie mike theresa amanda and all the people here at crawford broadcasting happy friday producer joe happy friday kim And what a fascinating conversation with Robert Brice. He’s an energy expert. If you missed that in our number one, that will be rebroadcast today, one to two in the afternoon on all KLZ 560 platforms. This hour will be rebroadcast this evening, 10 to 11 p.m. as well. We are an independent voice and I so appreciate our sponsors. And I thank Laramie Energy for their gold sponsorship of the show because it’s reliable, efficient, affordable and abundant power. from hydrocarbons such as oil, natural gas, and coal that powers our lives, fuels our hopes and dreams, and empowers us to change our own personal climate to be warm in the winter and cool in the summer. And certainly within our power portfolio, it’s good to have all kinds of different alternatives, but we should not be giving tax incentives and tax credits to different entities within that power portfolio. We want everybody to compete in a free market on that. So again, thank you to Laramie Energy for their goal sponsorship of the show. Our word of the day is gadfly, and it is spelled G-A-D-F-L-Y. And number one, it could be a persistent, irritating critic or a nuisance. Number two, one that acts as a provocative stimulus, a goad. Or number three, any various number of flies, especially a warble fly, bot fly, or horse fly that bite or annoy livestock and other animals. And certainly in the political realm, I would say that probably Donald Trump is a gadfly to the radical activist agenda that is out there. And so again, gadfly, try to use that in a sentence today, G-A-D-F-L-Y. And I got that from producer Steve, who was formerly our producer before producer Joe. Our quote of the day is from the Center for American Values quote book. And you can purchase that by going to AmericanValueCenter.org. And I really would recommend that to, first of all, have at your home on your Freedom Library, in your Freedom Library. But also, it is a great gift as well. But this is from Melvin Morris, United States Army Medal of Honor recipient born in 1942 for actions that he took on September 17, 1969. And he says, you have to do what you have to do. Failure is not an option. And as we hear the stories and the quotes from these men that took action when danger presented itself and they took action to protect those around them to save lives, we can take great heart from that as we are engaged in this battle of ideas in America at this particular point in time. And I do, I take great heart from these different quotes, these different stories. And so a great thing to do would be to support the Center for American Values website. with all of the great work that they are doing. And also, I wanted to mention Hooters Restaurants. They have locations in Loveland, Westminster, and in Aurora. And in fact, Kurt Gerwitz and I went over for lunch yesterday. They have some of the best nachos around. And so great specials Monday through Friday for lunch and for happy hour. And also, obviously, a great place to get together to watch all the sporting events as well. And we are into… I know there’s a lot of emotion around football season right now with, first of all, this is Bad Bunny, who is supposed to be the halftime entertainment. And apparently Jay-Z and Beyonce, their company chooses the halftime. halftime entertainment. And I think I love the fact that Turning Point is going to have an alternative to that. But still, I know people love football. And you see this agenda of the radical activists that are really trying to get into, I think, undermining NFL football, which is a great American pastime. But we have important discussions on the show because of our sponsors, and a very important sponsor is the Second Syndicate. It is co-founded by Alicia Garcia and Teddy and Rocia Collins, and they’re doing great work regarding advocacy down at the Capitol. Right now they’re doing a great project on making our schools safe again. Alicia Garcia, welcome to the show. Good morning, Kim. How are you? I am well, and I made a contribution so that my name can be in the drawing for this firearm for your FASTER project.
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So one of the things that we have noticed that is going on here in Colorado is, you know, Colorado is notorious for quote-unquote gun control, right, which gives them that excuse to continue to want to infringe on our Second Amendment rights. to which we believe that the second syndicate is a human and a civil right that shall not be infringed, of course. At the same time, we want to be solution oriented because we see all this It’s awful violence that’s happening to our children in schools. And we said, you know, we’re not going to wait for the government to step in and do something about it. We want to do something about it. So we linked up with Laura Carno and Faster Colorado, and we said we want to help. So what we’re doing is we’re raising money to pay the tuition for tons of students. educators and staffers that are at Colorado schools to pay their tuition in order to help them become armed educators and armed staffers in our school. So usually that tuition is about $1,000 for an educator, which is kind of pricey in my perspective, especially if you are a you know a teacher you have a very fixed income and we want to make sure that if these teachers are doing their best to you know put their lives online for our students that they are encouraged to do so and they are compensated for it in the best way possible so we said we’re going to start operation armed educators where we are raising money to pay the tuition for faster in order to put those educators through the faster program So it’s called Operation Arm the Educators. You can go to our Give, Send, Go, which is Operation the Educators. You can find there, as well as all of our social medias have links to it. And for every donation, that’s $5 or more, up until I believe Christmas the day after Christmas, excuse me, and they can donate. donate money and that money goes directly to helping arm educators as well as to a giveaway to win a custom engraved Springfield 1911 that the Damage Factory was very kind to donate.
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SPEAKER 11 :
Well, thank you, Kim. It’s an honor to be here with you.
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And you just celebrated your 30th year in business this year, so congratulations on that. And Jay, that happens because you have relationships with your customers. So tell us just a little bit about First American State Bank.
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The Austrian school was coalesced in the 1800s with a gentleman named Ludwig von Mises. And his star pupil and the man who eventually took it over was F.A. Hayek, Frederick Hayek. And Mr. Hayek, Dr. Hayek, wrote a book called The Road to Serfdom. And then his pupil and eventual leader of the school was a gentleman named Milton Friedman, who was an economic advisor to President Reagan. And Dr. Friedman wrote a book called Free to Choose. And the whole idea of road to serfdom and free to choose were two sides, two bookends to the whole issue of what is right in economics. Because if we have freedom in economics, then we have true freedom. And if we have the road to serfdom, that is the road to central control by a government, excessive control by a government. That’s what F.A. Hayek was talking about. So these are economists books, economic books, but they are profound in their philosophical standing.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, they really are. And. Jay, slavery basically means that your life is controlled and that the fruits of your labor are totally go to somebody else. And I guess that could be serfdom as well. Those two things are closely associated. But when we get to a situation where there is overtaxation, that clearly is the road to serfdom, as Hayek referenced in his book, Jay.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, very true. Every dollar that the government spends, every single dollar, in all these nice programs like SNAP and taking care of illegal aliens and, you know, welfare, entitlement programs, medical programs brought to you by the government, every dollar they spend is first taken from you, the citizen. Government doesn’t…
SPEAKER 19 :
Go ahead. Government doesn’t create anything, right?
SPEAKER 11 :
Right. Exactly. You know.
SPEAKER 19 :
And I’ve talked with you a lot. But also, they don’t politely ask for it. They may politely ask for it initially, but it ultimately can come down to force. Taxation can come down to force.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, taxation is force. Don’t pay your taxes for a while and see what happens. you will go to jail. I don’t object to some taxation. Honestly, I’m happy to contribute my fair share to this beautiful country of ours and keeping it strong. And I don’t mind the government spending money on the military and the State Department. They protect us from foreign aggressors, and they’re always going to be foreign aggressors. What I object to is this constant chipping away by these far-left progressives that are searching for a solution that’s based on a government program. And they only talk about the effect of the federal worker who’s not getting paid or the effect of the SNAP recipient who is not getting his or her food. And they ignore the whole other side of the argument, which is who’s paying for it. And when 1% of the taxpayers pays almost 50% of all taxation, our tax rates are far too progressive. And the top 10% of taxpayers pays 90% of all taxes. So it’s a vast majority of people are not affected by taxation. The left has done a wonderful job of killing off the very people that created the businesses that allow America to thrive, the private businesses that allow our nation to thrive. Our strength is certainly in our military, but even more, our strength is in our free trade. economy, our capitalistic economy. That’s unbelievably powerful. And this kind of taxation and destruction of personal property and wealth is very detrimental to the safety of our nation.
SPEAKER 19 :
so that’s a great segue into the two issues that are on the statewide ballot proposition ll and proposition mm which they are based on a proposition ff that was passed by the people of colorado in 2022 and the title of course it’s for the children healthy school meals for all children And Proposition FF was asking for $107 million for these programs. Actually, I have dubbed it the name of greasing the pockets of PBIs, politicians, bureaucrats, and interested parties, because Proposition FF was proposed to put in five new bureaucracies. And bureaucracies don’t feed kids. Now, maybe there might be a few meals that might get to school children, but it’s very advantageous for bureaucrats when they do this. But what happened is they asked for $107 million. They collected more, $12 million more. So Proposition LL is asking to keep it all. Now, as a business person and a capitalist, many of our kids are taught that, oh, those capitalists are so greedy. But capitalism is based on a free market, a free exchange between two entities. I think it’s really greedy for the state to ask to keep all the money, Jay Davidson said.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, absolutely. It’s the ultimate greed. And they’re taking it without representation. I mean, these these taxes and fees are limited in Colorado by Tabor. So what does the government do? The bureaucrats and Governor Polis do? They start to fee us to death. And they can do fees without going through the legislature. And if you look at the Common Sense Institute’s report on fee income to the Colorado government, you’d be shocked at how much fees have gone up. So it’s the same difference. I mean, either they take it away in taxes or they take it away in fees. What they miss, what the progressive left misses, and all the Democrats out there, and a lot of the Republicans, frankly, miss, is that government solutions, whether it’s regional, state, or federal government solutions, don’t work, and worse, they have to take away from the private enterprise, private individuals, in order to fund themselves. And that is absolutely killing the goose that laid the golden egg. Because the golden egg is capitalism. And the ability of capitalism and capitalists and private businesses to survive and earn money so they can reinvest in their business and continue to employ people.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, and so that brings us to Proposition MM, which both Proposition FF and MM, I know it’s so weird to be referencing them, but that’s what it is, Proposition MM. And it’s asking, first of all, shall state taxes be increased $95 million annually? It says to support access to healthy food for Colorado kids and families, including the Healthy School Meals for All program. And it is increasing the state taxable income only for individuals with federal taxable income of $300,000 or more. And then it talks about single filers or joint filers. And then lastly, it’s asked to keep all of the excess revenue as well. They learned over there on Prop FF that they’d said they were going to collect X, and they collected more, and that they would have to ask us under TABOR, Colorado’s Taxpayers Bill of Rights. So now they’re just putting it in this ballot question to, we want to increase taxes this much, but… If we bring in more, we want to keep it all. And so there’s really two things there. There’s that component, but also one of the pillars of the Communist Manifesto by Karl Marx is a progressive income tax, which means that you will tax people that are earning more at a higher percentage rate. They’re already paying most of the taxes, but they’re going to get dinged again. And these are the people typically that are creating businesses, that are creators. And so this is based also, if you go to our declaration, that we’re all created equal, so we should be treated equally under the law. So it’s antithetical to the American idea. I know that I’ve put a lot out there, Jay, but… It’s all connected and the left has figured it out.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, exactly. And they sound like a broken record because it’s all tax and spend. It’s all tax the rich and spend. It’s never, oh, well, maybe we should stop spending a little bit and live within our means. I mean, we’re getting X number of dollars in revenue, we the government, in tax revenue. Why don’t we adjust our spending to be less than what we’re getting in revenue so we can start to build up Some savings. I mean, this is something that you and I and every citizen out there does every day of his or her life. Oh, I can’t afford that car. Okay, well, I’ll buy a cheaper car. I won’t buy a car, you know, because I only have so much money. well that’s the reality we face but the government says oh well i can tax the rich it’s for the children it’s for the poor needy person out here and then they get another tax in and now we’re in a situation in america where the people who are creating all the wealth including your jobs my fellow citizens are being overtaxed, and they’re saying, enough is enough. I’m out of here. I’ll sell my business. I’ll stop doing this kind of work. I’m sorry that my employees are not going to be employed anymore, but it’s not my problem. My government has killed me. They have destroyed my ability to run my business and to make a profit.
SPEAKER 19 :
And that’s why people are moving out of California. That’s why people are moving many out of Colorado. And so that’s why we must say no on Proposition LL and Proposition MM. Check out my voter’s guide. I make the case for a no vote on that. And I want you to make your own decision. But I’m an emphatic no on both of those. We’re talking with Jay Davidson. He is the CEO and president of First American State Bank, a great sponsor of the show. Another great sponsor of the show is Ben’s Plumbing and Heating and Cooling. And in order to change your own personal climate regarding being warm in the winter or cool in the summer, reach out to Ben’s Plumbing, Heating and Cooling.
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And welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. And I think that you all know one of the nonprofits that I highlight on a regular basis on the show is the Center for American Values, which is located in Pueblo, founded by Medal of Honor recipient Drew Dix and and brad padula who is an emmy award-winning documentary maker and well they both they’ve come together to start a podcast series they just finished their first season and it’s words from the silo with drew dicks and i would really recommend that you add that in as into your repertoire as you’re doing research because drew is so well versed in so many different subjects and so check that out you can find it at americanvaluecenter.org that’s americanvaluecenter.org Talking with Jay Davidson, great sponsor of the show with First American State Bank. He’s the CEO and founder. We’re talking taxes. Taxes are force. Jay, you and I both agree that there are some things that government is supposed to do. But government is supposed to be limited. It’s supposed to be representative government, people representing the people making the decisions. And we’ve moved over into this bureaucratic space. where people are unaccountable and unelected to the people. And so we need to get government back in its proper role. And that was something the founders were very concerned about, Jay Davidson.
SPEAKER 11 :
Extremely concerned. That was the heart and soul of the Declaration and the Constitution. And the whole idea was, for the first time in recorded history, A nation was based on the sanctity of the individual. And the Declaration made it very plain that the Almighty, our Creator, imbued in each one of us a sacred soul and life, and that that soul and that life should be held sacrosanct. And that the dangers of… Taking away freedoms and responsibility from that soul would almost always reside in the form of a government intervention in our private lives. Hence, the Constitution does one thing, and only one thing. It severely limits the size, the scope, and the ability of the federal government and the local governments also by inference to impinge on our individual rights. And those individual rights are created by our creator, as Thomas and Jefferson said in the Declaration, and they are life, liberty, and the ownership of property.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, and Franklin, my understanding is Benjamin Franklin said, well, I think he influenced the words to be changed from property to pursuit of happiness is my understanding, Jay.
SPEAKER 11 :
yellow issue kim was the the issue of slavery was still very hardly contested between the north and the south even at the beginning of our nation and in an effort to placate those who believed in slavery and those who did not believe in slavery. Franklin convinced Jefferson, who was a slaver, to change the comment of ownership to pursuit of happiness. And the whole idea was that how would you count a slave as two-thirds of a man or one-third or whatever? And it got pretty convoluted until the Civil War in which the first Republican president, Abraham Lincoln, said no slavery is acceptable. And I have to agree that if we believe in the sanctity of the individual, then every individual has that life spirit, that soul, the rights and responsibility to freedom and to protection from a government that always goes too big and too excessive.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, and one of the ways that it grows big and excessive is because it does that via our money, our hard-earned money. And the beauty with TABOR, Colorado’s Taxpayers Bill of Rights, which was passed by the people of Colorado in 1992, basically TABOR says three things. It says, hey, PBIs, if you want to raise our taxes, if you want to incur debt that we have to pay off, or if you want to keep excess revenue above a very generous formula of inflation plus population growth, you just have to ask us. Now, I find that PBIs really would like to not ask us, but still here in Colorado for taxes, debt, and they do need to ask us. Now, I do want to mention just one thing, and this was one of the first things that I started to learn about. I saw a South Suburban Parks and Recreation bond question, and And they referenced that at the very last paragraph, something about keeping all excess revenue. And that’s where I realized that they were doing these workarounds in these ballot questions on Tabor. So South Metro Fire District has a $50 million annual tax increase on the ballot. And people can debate whether or not they want to do that or not. But I am a hard no on this. Because if you look at the last paragraph, It says, and shall all district revenues be collected, retained, and spent, notwithstanding any revenue limits provided by law. Right there, they are wanting to get around Tabor. And so because of that, Jay Davidson, I am a hard no on this particular question. I want these entities to start to stay within the confines of what they’re asking instead of asking for all the revenue, which, again, I think is very greedy.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, Tabor is a godsend. I mean, what he has done for the Colorado citizen is unimaginable. It’s incredible what it’s done. And the left has been working very hard, very diligently to destroy Tabor, to get around it. You know, these new laws that are coming down the pipe that we’re supposed to vote on to subvert Tabor is one of them. Fee income, as we talked about in the last segment, has been going up dramatically. That’s another way to get around Tabor. But the bottom line is that a government entity, in this case a state government entity, is taking money away from every citizen out there without really being upfront about it and being honest about it.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, and that’s why if you see this or if you’re a reference to Title 10, I think it is in a ballot question. All those, and this is trying to subvert Tabor, Colorado’s Taxpayers Bill of Rights, and the answer should be no on that. So let’s move over here. Mike Johnston, mayor of Denver, he’s asking for… debt. And right off the bat, they’re being disingenuous. In the ballot questions, it says without imposing any new tax. Well, actually, Jay Davidson, this is an extension of taxes. So if people pay off their car… then that payment goes away and they have more money in their pocket. If the people of Denver pay off these bonds, then those bonds go away and they have more money in their pocket. They pay less in property taxes. So it is disingenuous right off the bat. I’m like, if you can’t be honest with me at the beginning, why should I trust you with $950 million? What do you think?
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, they’re not talking about the carrying cost, are they, Kim? I mean, you were telling me you had added up that, and it was double the amount. I mean… Principal press interest payments was almost $2 billion, not $1 billion. Yeah, it was $2 billion with all the costs included, the interest costs. And then people need to ask, what do I get for this? I mean, he wants a vibrant Denver. Well, you know, his mentality, Mike Johnson’s and Jared Polis and all the… Bennett, Weiser, all those. All of them. And a lot of Republicans, honestly. I know. Their attitude is, well, we’re from the government. We’re here to help. And we can revitalize Denver. And it just blows my mind every time they say this. And they believe it. And they truly believe it. No, the way to revitalize Denver is to get this godforsaken government out of our lives and let private enterprise go in and make their own decisions on what they do or don’t do. It’s gotten to be almost impossible to do a deal in Denver because of all the bureaucrats and all the permitting and all the fees that go on. The government itself, the people that we are being asked to trust to solve this problem of a dying Denver business district are the very people that caused the problem in the first place. So why, in the Almighty’s name, would we go back to that same group, that same mentality, that same tax and spend idiocy that’s proven to be so disastrous every time it’s been tried? Why are we doing that? Why is Polis in there? Why is Mike Johnson the mayor of Denver? Johnston, yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER 19 :
Not to be confused with the Speaker of the House. Mike Johnson.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, you’re right. That’s a good point. Thank you.
SPEAKER 19 :
And it’s Mike Johnston, who is the mayor of Denver. And Denver, because of these policies, it’s dirty, it’s dangerous, it’s dysfunctional. And all they want is more money. They say they can fix it. Oh, no, no, they caused it. So the answer should be no on all of these bond questions. And so I make the case for no. And so they’re asking for a total of $950 million. And the payback on that, the maximum, they say the maximum repayment, would be $1.899 billion. Just think, if the people of Denver had that money in their pockets, first of all, they’re going to be much more efficient with that money in their pockets, And just think that would be a way to create a vibrant Denver because people would have more money in their pockets. People would want to move here because they’d have more money in their pockets. And that’s the way to make Denver vibrant, not this huge bond package.
SPEAKER 11 :
You’re exactly right. Private enterprise is the solution. But that requires that the government get out of our lives and let us do our thing. And we have the most powerful document ever written. Well, probably second most. And that’s the Constitution on our side to say how it’s done and why you do it. But the government is never the solution to a problem. They are the problem. And we’ve got to get that through people’s heads.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, we really do. And the thing that Mike Johnston and the PBIs at Denver did is they went out to all these different communities and they said, what do you want? What do you want? What do you want? And then they promised to these communities that they were going to get it. And quite frankly, if there’s something in particular that you want in your community, maybe you should just get together with your neighbors and figure out how to make that happen. Because bureaucrats will be out of that $1.899 billion. Also, PBIs, politicians, bureaucrats, and interested parties will be making a ton of money on that. And they’re not creating anything. They’re taking money from the creators and and then doling it out as they see fit. So I am a hard no on that. Your final thought on all this, Jay Davidson, it’s so important that one of the ways to keep government and get government back into its proper role is to turn the money spigot off for them and keep that money in our own pockets.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, the whole issue really comes down to government spending. That is the one issue that has to be addressed. And, you know, unfortunately, I have to listen to Nine News because my wife puts it on. I just cringe. But they only show one side of the equation. It’s like, oh, these poor people. Yeah, I get it. I feel for them, too. But why don’t you turn on the other side of the argument and talk to us about Well, how are you going to afford to pay all this money to all these people that don’t want to work? How where do you get that money? You get it from people that are willing to work. And how long are we willing to work when we’re going for a half a year paying just our taxes out of our net income? And the rest we get to keep. What is going on with you people? And so it’s this they’re in an insane negative feedback loop of tax and spend and tax and spend and tax. And they’re they’re spending your money, not their money. So it’s really easy for them to do. And oh, by the way, if they get you something, then you’ll vote for them and they’ll be perpetually in the loop. So the whole issue is spending. This is the issue we need to address.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, it really is. And just one other thing, though, and that is the dignity of earning something, the dignity of work. And that’s why I do love what Trump is doing, is if you are able-bodied, then you need to be working regarding these SNAP benefits. And I love that, because not only is people needing to work, but there’s this dignity of saying to someone, instead of giving them a handout… Basically, you’re saying you don’t have anything of value for us to trade. And what does that do to the dignity of the human spirit? So having people have to earn and work is so important. Jay Davidson, it’s always such a great conversation when we get together, particularly regarding this election time. Your ballots are due back November 4th by 7 o’clock. And I’d highly recommend let’s start to get government back in its proper role and let’s turn the spigot off. Jay Davidson, as always, thank you.
SPEAKER 11 :
Thank you, Kim. It’s a pleasure.
SPEAKER 19 :
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And you can get more information about that by going to their website and check that out. And that is usmcmemorialfoundation.org, usmcmemorialfoundation.org. In the conversation with Jay Davidson, as we were talking about government, or PBIs, we’ll say PBIs, promising all these things, such as in Mike Johnston and this Vibrant Denver Bond Package, My understanding is they went around, and I have this in air quotes, listening tours to all these different communities to find out what they wanted and then said, hey, we’ll propose that and you’ll get that in your neighborhood. But quite frankly, it is so expensive to do that. But Maggie Thatcher said this, the problem with socialism, and that is giving people free stuff, is that eventually you run out of other people’s money. And you can’t give to someone what has not first been taken from someone else. So it can either be in the form of taxes and fees or it can be in debt that will need to be paid off by ourselves and our children. And so that is why this government spending thing is so important to get this tap down. I did just see this come across the wire that it looks like inflation ticked up just a little bit. It’s government induced inflation. And I like many of the policies of Trump. I was I was concerned. And of course, it was unique time under covid. the significant spending that occurred there, but then it continued under the O’Biden Harris administration. So we talk about that on the federal level and how we’re concerned about the federal debt, but we have to say no to this new debt or extended debt here at the local level. And so that’s a very important question that will be on your ballots regarding the Vibrant Denver debt package. In our area, South Suburban Fire and Rescue is asking for an additional $50 million, which they got a pretty big bump when all of these assessed valuations went up. So I think that I haven’t really looked at the real merits of if that makes sense. because I’m a hard no on it, because it is asking to de-tabor or de-bruce all of the excess revenue that they are, all of the excess tax dollars that they collect that needs to be returned back to us, the taxpayer. And it’s been very sneaky, and these different entities have been doing this for a long time. The ink was hardly dry on Tabor, Colorado’s Taxpayers Bill of Rights, back in 1992 before we had PBIs trying to figure out how to get around that. And so this is a perfect time to just kind of finish the week off to say thank you to my fellow Colorado Union of Taxpayers board members. And that is, here we go. It’s Steve Dorman, Greg Golianski, Russ Haas, Bill Hamill, Rob Knuth, John Nelson, Wendy Warner, Marty Nielsen, Ramey Johnson, Mary Jansen, Dave Evans, Corey Onozorg, Paula Beard, and Ray Beard. And these are all volunteers that we spend an enormous amount of time during the legislative session looking at legislation and taking positions on how that legislation affects the taxpayer, which is all of us, property rights, TABOR, protecting TABOR or an assault upon TABOR. We want to protect it. Colorado’s Taxpayers Bill of Rights, as well as parental rights. And we have our ratings report is published, and I know many of the board members have been at different gatherings, different meetings, and have been handing them out. And for all of our members, you will be receiving a hard copy in the mail. I’m working on updating the mailing list on that. So join us. If you want that, why don’t you join us? Go to coloradotaxpayer.org and get signed up so that you will get your copy as well, a hard copy. Eventually we will have that on the website as well. And again, that website to do that is coloradotaxpayer.org. We would love to have you join us. And great shows. We really have wonderful guests, important subjects, important conversations. But our quote for the end of the show today is from Milton Friedman. He said this. Inflation is the one form of taxation that can be imposed without legislation. So my friends today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you. God bless America. Have a safe weekend. We’ll talk with you on Monday.
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