Join Angie Austin in a captivating conversation with Scott Montgomery, author of ‘How Did You Get Here? Lessons of Unconventional Success’. Tune in to learn about the pivotal role of habits in achieving happiness and fulfillment. Scott candidly shares his transition from bad habits in high school to a structured life that led to enhanced productivity and success. Discover strategies for breaking free from negative cycles and developing habits that drive positive change. Additionally, the episode provides insights into guiding teenagers to understand the importance of habits, while Scott shares a unique partnership story involving renowned personalities. Whether facing
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Welcome to The Good News with Angie Austin. Now, with The Good News, here’s Angie.
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Hey there, Angie Austin here along with Scott Montgomery. He is the author of How Did You Get Here? Lessons of Unconventional Success. We’ve done several interviews and we’re kind of breaking down how to reach that level of success through the chapters of his book. And today we are on the chapter titled Habits. Welcome back, Scott.
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Thank you, Angie. Good to talk to you.
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So give us kind of… Have it. Yes, yes. Kind of just give us a brief, you know, if you had to give a 30-second, one-minute elevator speech about what your book’s about for people who’ve missed you in the past. Just kind of give us a little overview and then we’ll get into habits.
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Yeah, absolutely. Well, you know, I wrote this book as a way to kind of pay it forward for the next generation of business folks and folks that are driving success in sort of a different way than… just conventional, get a degree, get a job, and call yourself successful. What I did is I tried to break down relationships and partnerships, how I communicate, my habits, my goals, and sort of correlate for my reader my experience with those topics and how they can then hopefully parlay their experience into those topics and drive and find their own happiness and success. I love it. It emerged in 2019 during COVID, and right after my brother had passed, So I wanted to kind of keep a legacy piece on the bookshelf for my family after I passed. There’s a lot of reasons for this book.
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And I think an interesting side note that I found in us becoming radio friends is that we’ve got – like our kids are – you’ve got three kids. Our kids are like basically the same age. They’re getting their driver’s licenses. They’re finishing up high school. They’re in high school. And so – It’s been kind of fun to go over all of that with you. We’ve done partnerships and relationships, and you’ve talked a lot about people that you’ve worked with in the past who were like tens, who were shiny stars that you then hired in your own company. And then your relationship with your wife that’s so important and how she is a big help within your company. And I wouldn’t doubt at some point maybe you even have a couple of kids working in there too, but we’ll see about that. They’re a little young. But you said you had a funny story for me before we get into habits.
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Well, I did. And speaking of my wife and relationships, one of the stories that I tell in partnerships, the chapter mostly about my wife is when we were meeting with Zach Nicholas and his wife, Barbara, at a closed happy hour, we were talking to them about the trials and tribunes of being in relationship and also running a business together. And we had a really nice conversation around it. And it was there that my wife sort of indicated she felt like she was maybe more a string to my kite than she really wanted to be. And so we Sort of had an evolution in our relationship. It was back in 2017. Well, it turns out I’m going to be at this same happy hour again this month meeting with Jack and Barbara. And, you know, I call him Jack, Mr. Nicholas. And I’m going to bring my book and hopefully tell him all the good that has come of the story that I share about having met him the first time.
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Oh, I love it.
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I’m looking forward to it.
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That’s so funny you mention that because yesterday Jim Stovall, one of my favorite authors, he’s written like 60 books. He joins me once a week. He also was talking about Jack, and he’s interviewed so many cool people over the years. I don’t think he’s – those are the two times he’s been brought up in the last two days. So I love a good inspirational story.
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All right. Yeah, it’ll be nice to close the loop with him.
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Yes.
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I think it’ll go right into habits, and we’ll talk about that for sure.
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Well, and then tell, you know, after you meet with him, give us kind of the update of your meeting per se.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, I want him to sign my book. I want to give him a copy, and then I want him to sign my copy. So, yeah, I hope I get both of those. We’ll see if that comes to fruition.
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Awesome. Awesome. All right. How did you get here? Chapter three, habits. So how is this going to help us reach success?
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So you know what I found in habits that I sort of learned at an early age is that habits sort of drive behaviors. And when I was in high school, I had bad habits. I was smoking cigarettes. I was eating unhealthy food. There was no routine to when I got up in the morning or when I went to bed at night. There was no real structure in how I was living my day-to-day. And my grades reflected on it. My attention at school and all that stuff sort of didn’t go well until about 11th or 12th grade when I realized, hey, wait a minute, why don’t I get rid of these bad habits and incorporate good ones? Go to the gym, eat healthy, plan my meals. And as soon as I did that, I started to realize my grades were improving, my outlook and outcomes were improving, my relationships were improving, my attitude and tone and tenor were improving. And I thought I’d talk about it in my book because I think people don’t realize they get lost in their own habits. And And if they’re not good ones, they can really pull you down.
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Yes, and just a few bad habits can pull you down. Let’s talk about that because, you know, since my kids are the same age yours are, I find that their habits sometimes really need to be, like, reminded out of them. I think my son’s kind of past that stage where he gets up for work. You know, he’s always on time. He runs his own business. He schedules things. He keeps his own appointments. And so and he just graduated. So from high school. So that that’s cool. But the girls and they’re not going to like this, but, you know, you know, food. Oh, you’re leaving for practice. Did you pack anything healthy? Did you get enough sleep for your tournament? Did you stay up until three or four a.m. for a tournament when your parents are dropping huge amounts of money on you playing and trying to get you into college? Are you returning the emails from the coaches that are asking if they can do phone calls with you? Are you scheduling those phone calls when they ask for them? Are you studying for an exam that’s coming up? Or do you, as my daughter put it once at the end of the school year, I said, are you sure you’re prepared for this exam? She goes, oh, I have my ways. And so now it’s become a family joke because we’re retaking that class this summer. And so she’s doing a grade recovery course where she’s taking a college course to replace it. And she’s got an A right now, but guess who’s right alongside her reminding her every day to study. So we always say when the kids are like, I got a handle on that. I look at my husband, I go, she’s got her ways.
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You know, and that’s funny. We talk, it’s so funny because when we talk about kids, I was lucky enough to realize that the 10th, 11th, 12th grade is when these fundamentals sort of start to get in embedded and they really do make a difference.
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And you did it yourself.
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That was all you. I did it myself, and I really will say I did it myself because I realized quickly. So cigarettes was a really bad habit for me in high school. And the minute I stopped and I replaced it with running, I felt better. So there was a really quick turn for me on, wait, if I put structure in things. You know, there’s maturity. There’s examples. But there really is, if you put some structure on things, they will go smoother and more productively. They will yield you more happiness. which will ultimately drive that word success. And I think that’s where I learned it early. And that’s what I do now. So I still try and live in the patterns of, to your point, I have a daughter, you know, hey, did you make your bed? Did you clean up your room? Did you even just rinse out the sink or brush your teeth before you got up this morning and left the house?
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Oh, my gosh, the teeth. I mean, the teeth. I mean, that’s one because they’ll be walking out. And I’m like, did you remember to brush your teeth? Oh, oh, yes.
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You’re 16 now, so let’s go ahead and brush our teeth and let’s march right back upstairs. Oh my gosh. But I think I’m hoping that the rigor of that and those habits will drive her and my other children to more successful goals, objectives, and happiness overall. No one wants to sit in the dentist chair and get their teeth drilled.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, my goodness. Oh, okay. All right. So you started those habits when you were in high school on your own, which is so awesome. My son’s been going to the gym like on his own because we do family gym night with everyone, but he kind of now does it on his own and goes later with his friends to a gym. a different gym than we go to, which I get it when you’re just going into college, you don’t really want to work out with mommy and daddy and your little sisters. So, um, so he’s, he’s, he’s on that road. So let’s talk about these habits for success for, you know, once you pass the high school years.
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Yes. Yes. So, you know, I think it’s important that those patterns come into play. You know, um, I’m when, when habits are generally, um, important, for example, this call, um, I’m prepared, I’m ready, I’m sitting down ready for this call 10 minutes in advance. That’s a habit that will yield me more focus, more attention, and hopefully more productivity in our time together. So when you’re in business and you’re emerging into business, showing up late, kind of having those loose edges, not doing things on sort of a consistent basis will definitely drive perception and that will eliminate opportunity. When we start to get into my book further, we’ll realize that because I had good habits, I then forged good relationships with people who would help me move into higher-ranked roles. So it’s not always about the skill I bring and the work I do. It’s the perception I bring forward that I’m in meetings 10 minutes before they start, always and forever. It’s a habit. And it shows interest. It shows intent. And for those who are joining me, it shows respect. And they’re now interested in driving or helping my success. which ultimately helps theirs as well. Back to hiring those folks that I work with because they know the style of habit that I have in the structure we work in at Worldgate every day.
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You know, I was thinking about that, too, just that when people come in, that it is really a show of respect as well, in addition to helping you be prepped and, you know, to put on a good presentation or to present good information and be organized. But it just shows the people, like, you know, I really respect your time, you know, and I’m not running, you know, by the seat of my pants, per se, to get into it.
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Okay, what else? Well, I think, you know, from those habits perspective, that’s good. And, you know, there was one I was just trying to recall here about You know, one of the other lessons that I learned in habits wasn’t around cigarettes or time management. It was also around finances. I found myself in a real money crunch in my senior year of high school. I was $40,000 in debt. I was driving the shiny new yellow Honda Prelude. I had all the leather jackets, and I was to be seen when I showed up anywhere I was with things I couldn’t afford. Oh, my goodness. So what I learned real quick, well, things that I learned real quick in that was hey, maybe the habit of balancing your checkbook, maybe the habit of living inside a budget, maybe the habit of sort of not spending what you didn’t earn yet. Don’t use the credit card unless it’s a way for you to bridge a gap or get points. And so I learned through the negative a lot in high school era that if you can switch it to what we started to talk about a minute ago, habits are all around us in everything we do. And I think if we can switch create that rigor. And what I want to try and talk about in my book is creating that rigor and using these examples because then they reflect on what goals I can set for myself next chapter. They talk about what relationships I have prior chapter, how my partnership is instead every day, how I communicate chapter six mentors and, and, uh, coaches that engage with me that actually find me, um, competent because I show up 10 minutes early, for example, you know, And so I think there’s a real golden thread through this particular chapter with all the others in the book that I really want to drive home to the next generation. And the next generation is in high school. It’s those who are wondering what they can do to make themselves more successful slash happy with what they’re doing.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, and it’s interesting how that financial piece can so adversely affect your success in every aspect of your life to be 40 grand in debt, leaving high school. And how… That self-control, you know, how difficult it is to go, wait a second, especially when, you know, keeping up with the Joneses. My nephew lives in Los Angeles and his clothes are a little bit rough around the edges, shall we say, because he’s just kind of like, you know, given up on trying to compete with the Joneses. And he was talking to one of my girlfriends about dating, you know, in L.A. and how he doesn’t really fit the mold and everything. Then somebody drove with him or met him at his mom’s place right outside of Beverly Hills in Century City. And they said, oh, well, I thought you were poor. Oh, wow. You know, just because, you know, people just go by. I mean, how do you just go buy a car and clothes? To me, that’s not indicative of wealth at all. But in some circles, that really is. And in some circles, that to me is indicative of debt. And I’m trying to teach the kids that, too. Like, I know you see so-and-so, the neighbor driving, you know, that car. But we know for a fact, you know, that their finances are strained or this, that, and the other. Because maybe I know the mom or this, that, and the other, you know. All right, so tell people where to get your book. How did you get here?
SPEAKER 06 :
So you can buy it on Amazon. We can get it at Target. You can get it at Barnes & Noble. It’s How Did You Get Here? Lessons About Festival Success. There’s also a website, howdidyougethere.com.
SPEAKER 05 :
Excellent. Thank you, Scott.
SPEAKER 06 :
Thank you. Thank you.
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Hello there, friend. Angie Austin here with the good news. You know, so much bad news out there in the world the last few days. But I start off with some real good news today. I found a couple of stories I thought might brighten your day. And then coming up, we’re going to talk about how to, you know, reduce screen time and for parents and grandparents to know the effects. of screen time. So we’re going to talk to an expert in a few minutes about that. And you know what? I could stand for some of that screen time reduction as well myself. I think sometimes it’s like that feeling, that dopamine feeling you get when you’re like at a slot machine and that ding, ding, ding, and you’re looking, did anybody respond to this? Did I get a text from anyone? Did I get an email? I mean, I’m definitely very good at responding to my emails because I see them almost right away because I Check it way too often. All right, so let’s go to our good news, shall we? This one really touched my heart. I used to live in Minnesota. When they say Minnesota nice about people, it’s legit true. People in Minnesota, the majority of them, really are Minnesota nice. It’s not a joke. It’s the real deal. All right, so a pizzeria owner was seeing that people were eating out of his dumpsters. At first, he thought, well, maybe it’s animals. And he thought, no, because animals aren’t sitting out there with bottles of water and napkins. And so he first put a note up that said, don’t dig out of the dumpsters, because he’s like, I don’t want people eating dumpster pizza. And then he thought, you know what, they’re still doing it. And he said, I can’t sit in a building full of food in my Minnesota warm restaurant. And well, cool in the summer, I guess, you know, in my comfy restaurant and watch people starve in my parking lot. So Chris Kolstad said, When he took ownership of Pizza Man in Columbia Heights six years ago, he discovered that, you know, these people were eating the pizza out of the dumpsters, whether it was one of them two or not. So he went to Facebook and made a public plea. And then he also put some signs out that said, please do not eat out of our dumpster. If you are desperate for food, please come ask. If you’re too embarrassed to ask, find a way to call us or Facebook us, leave us a note and ask if there is a way to leave a small cheese pizza outside the back door or something. You don’t even have to see us. We can just leave it there. And then basically he just started leaving this food out on the back step for people when they would ask for it. And then after his post went viral, he shared a donation link. It’s raised over $4,000 to help cover the cost of pizzas that he’s left out back. And he said he estimates he’s helped over 100 people with food who’ve asked for it rather than dug it out of the trash. And recently, one of the recipients left a touching note for him. And he said, this is why we do it. So the person let him know that, hey, you know, we could really use some food for the family. And then they got the on the back stoop. They’ve got a pizza sitting there. It says, I wanted to personally thank you. We are a family, and we have gone through some tough times. I sent you a message on Facebook and asked for a little help. You responded right away and told me that you’d get me taken care of. That was last night at closing. Today, I’m heading your way to get food for myself and my family. What a guy. What you’re doing is amazing, and so many people who are struggling, and this is just an act of kindness from you to our family, and it is so appreciated. Thank you. and it was to Pizza Man. I thought that was sweet. But speaking of restaurants doing nice things, I came across two other stories, and you know, many of us are really attached to our pets, and they are definitely an extension of our family. I’ve got five pets, as you know, and Gosh, I don’t even like to, yeah, when I see my friends post about losing a pet, it just breaks my heart. So this particular TikToker revealed the compassion that Cheddar showed him. He said, I asked for a steak. He wanted to be the biggest, most perfectly cooked steak. And he wanted it for his dog. He had to put his dog of 13 years down. The chubby black lab named Bella was his best friend. and he wanted her to get like the perfect steak and they said well would you want the sides they’re free and he’s like no no i don’t need the sides because i think she’ll just want the steak and he said well would she eat any of the sides he said well maybe the french fries so when he arrived to pick up the food the manager um came out back um with the staff or out front i should say um and presented the bag of food and offered their condolences um they comped the meal they didn’t charge him and they um also signed like a card from everyone because they you know people really love animals and then when cheddar’s client relations team found out about it because it kind of went viral they sent a branded fleece blanket of the male wishing uh comfort would wrap around you like a warm hot butter croissant so they must be known for their hot butter croissants i thought that was super sweet i just love it when people do kind you know general acts of kindness for people All right, changing gears now as families shift from summer break to school schedules, one of the toughest adjustments is around kids’ screen time. Joining us today is online safety expert Tom Clayton, here to share practical tips for parents as they reset their kids’ digital routines for the new school year. Clayton is a father of three and chief operating officer and president of Aura. Welcome, Tom Clayton. Thank you, Angie. Thank you for having me. You’re welcome. All right, so let’s just start right off the bat. Why is back to school the best time, the right time for families to reset their digital routines?
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Yeah, so coming out of summer, it’s all about flexibility. Later nights, more screen time, less structure. You know, when school starts… Kids need routines that support focus, rest, and balance, and so the back-to-school season really is the perfect reset button for digital balance.
SPEAKER 05 :
I would absolutely agree, and they are getting better at school at helping us with that digital balance, and we try to help, too. Sometimes there have been occasions where I’ve locked phones in the safe because I know they can’t get in there, and get them when we leave for work or something. It’s easy for them to grab a phone, and we have trackers on them, too, so it’s pretty hard for them to do it behind our backs, but… Yeah, they’re having them put it in their shoe. You’re probably familiar with this. Those shoe things you put over the door for your shoes like when you’re in college. Yeah. They call that the phone hotel, and they throw them in there. So that’s what a lot of the teachers are doing now. But kids are putting fake phones in there. In fact, I’m embarrassed to tell you this, Tom. My kid did that, where I’m like, why am I getting a call? And they’re like, well, we took the phones away, and then we saw your daughter listening to music, and we realized she put a fake old phone that she used several years back that she’d taken from our house. And I’m like, oh, my gosh, they’re getting so tricky.
SPEAKER 04 :
That’s a first. I had not heard that. But that is – I’d say good for her, but bad for her.
SPEAKER 05 :
She has ADHD, so she likes music to calm her. So it was like her excuse, but like, girl, you sure didn’t pull it off well when you came back from the bathroom, you know, dancing to your music on the phone you weren’t supposed to have. But yeah, that was the first for me, too. All right. Let’s talk about early signs that screen time is starting to get in the way of school, sleep and focus, because I see that a lot when I’ll see their activity late at night. You can tell they’re online or they’re doing whatever just from some of their apps.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, it’s a great point. And, you know, really, when they’re struggling to fall asleep, they’re rushing through their homework and they’re not doing their homework or they’re more irritable because the more time they spend on the phone tends to. correlate with more irritability. Really? Those are all telltale signs that they’re probably spending too much time on their phone during the day. And we’re really trying to give parents insights to spot those patterns early on so they can make small, healthy changes before they become a bigger issue.
SPEAKER 05 :
Let’s talk about parents and, you know, how we can talk with kids about screen time in a way that doesn’t enrage them and that feels supportive instead of confrontational or controlling or mean.
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Yeah, so I have three daughters, and same as you, a couple of them have ADHD, and they really get the dopamine hit from using their phones and listening to the music. And so, you know, the heavy-handed approach I learned pretty early on doesn’t work. Trying to bring them into the process, asking them open-ended questions like, you know, which apps make you feel more creative or more connected? Which ones do you leave feeling drained? Bringing them in as part of the conversation, it makes… digital balance, a shared goal and not a punishment or a restriction. And it’s really helping them to build a new skill and routine for their futures. You know, I have, like I said, I have three daughters. My youngest is 13. I’ve gone through this journey a few times now and feel like I’m getting a little better with practice, but still learning. But I was really excited maybe a few months ago when my daughter said, I’m going to do a digital detox day, Dad. And, you know, every Sunday now she just reads or hangs out with friends, spends time outside. She came up with the idea completely on her own because she realized that spending too much time on her phone was creating anxiety and anxiety
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her mood just wasn’t the same wow you know it’s interesting you say that because i have a kid that did um young life camp for a week and they go away to another state and they’re um you know on a lake and they’re this and that and i was like oh i can’t contact you like you won’t have your phone she comes back because she was a little worried about that she said mom it was the best week of my life i didn’t even miss my phone there were so many things to do it was so great it was like the best experience i’ve ever had like in the outdoors with no phone whatsoever. And they connected so much more as kids. And I think what they enjoyed too is other kids weren’t ignoring them because they were all, you know, all their faces are normally in their phones. So they had to like make plans and come up with games and, you know, go do crafts together and talk about what their next step was. Oh, where are we going? Or should we go eat now? Should we do that? And they weren’t all just staring at phones. It was kind of life-changing for her. I like this idea of what your daughter’s doing with the digital detox on Sundays. That might be a really nice way to do it.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, yeah, and summer camp also is great. I’ve had the same experience when they all came back from camp. They were in their best moods all summer.
SPEAKER 05 :
Great, wonderful. All right, let’s talk about some simple steps that we can try, maybe even this week, to make screen time feel more balanced at home. Because I’m laughing. I was traveling to one of my kids’ universities, and it’s Christian, so they have to go to chapel every day. She must have picked up that front lawn 15 times during church. I’m like, are you kidding me? I can’t even believe they let you bring these things in here. Like, you cannot be on that while you’re at school that requires church.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right, right. Yeah, so look, we’re coming out of summer and into school, so it’s a pretty dramatic shift. And so I would start small and with increments, gradually rolling back screen time instead of making sudden cuts. Try to anchor it around natural transition points like homework or dinner or bedtime. And then Third, and I think most importantly, is lead by example. Put your phone down more often. Engage with them more often. Our kids look up to us, and they mimic what we do, and if they see us using our phone less or engaging in conversation with them more, they will as well.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, that’s terrible. Last night I was walking on the track with my daughter, and I thought she was done talking to me. So I’m like, all right, I’m going to put my movie back on because I listened to a show while I’m walking. She goes, you’re going to listen to that on your phone? I’m literally talking to you. And I was like, oh, I thought you were done. And I took me and my earbuds out, and we kept talking. But when I thought she was done, I was like, oh, I’ll just keep walking and watch my show. But she called me out like, seriously? You’re going to do that seriously?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, no, I do a weekly – daughter dinner night with each of my daughters. And, you know, I learned pretty quickly that it’s their time. And if I pick up my phone, even if it’s answering a text, they call me out on it and they want to talk and engage. And we’ve been doing it their whole lives. So it’s a great time to put the phones down and connect.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes, definitely. I know that Aura helps families stay digitally balanced, so can you talk about that?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, so we give families a set of tools that naturally fit into sort of your everyday life. We have all the table stakes features that you would expect, you know, where you could pause the Internet, set downtime for sleep, daily limits on apps. But the big difference in the platform is it provides a lot of great insight into not only what apps you’re using and how long they’re using each of them, but which ones are causing positive or negative sentiment or sometimes negative sentiment when they use them too long, which ones are causing higher anxiety or stress or sleep issues, and maybe they should be using them earlier in the day rather than later. Insights, you know, on just what usage habits are positive versus ones that are less than ideal. And then you could share those with your kids and work on it together so that they could feel better. You know, the analogy I like to think of is you wouldn’t – give your kid their first car without a seat belt or driving lessons, would you? And phones, as it turns out, given how connected they are, they need the same guardrails. And so we’re just trying to help parents and kids with those guardrails.
SPEAKER 05 :
I love it. Where can people get more info?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, just go to our site, Aura.com, A-U-R-A, and you’ll see all the tools there and tips. And feel free to reach out to us. Our phone number is there. We’re around 24-7.
SPEAKER 05 :
Excellent. Tom Clayton, digital safety expert and COO and president with Aura. And so if you guys want to get in touch and get more info, check out Aura, A-U-R-A. Thanks, Tom. Thanks, Angie.
SPEAKER 03 :
You bet. Thank you for listening to The Good News with Angie Austin on AM670 KLTT.
Join Angie Austin in a captivating conversation with Scott Montgomery, author of ‘How Did You Get Here? Lessons of Unconventional Success’. Tune in to learn about the pivotal role of habits in achieving happiness and fulfillment. Scott candidly shares his transition from bad habits in high school to a structured life that led to enhanced productivity and success. Discover strategies for breaking free from negative cycles and developing habits that drive positive change. Additionally, the episode provides insights into guiding teenagers to understand the importance of habits, while Scott shares a unique partnership story involving renowned personalities. Whether facing
