Join Angie Austin on ‘The Good News’ as she delves into the daily rituals that can transform lives into successful journeys. Accompanied by Dr. Cheryl Lentz, the discussion emphasizes the power of calm morning routines and cutting back on unnecessary busy work to make every day productive. Discover how small, consistent progress leads to big achievements and explore the role of mentors in guiding us through life’s challenges. Cheryl shares her own experiences and insights on failing forward and the significance of showing up to seize opportunities.
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Welcome to The Good News with Angie Austin. Now, with The Good News, here’s Angie.
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Hey, this is The Good News with Angie Austin. Angie here, along with Dr. Cheryl Lentz, the academic entrepreneur. Hello, friend.
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Hello, friend.
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All right, so I sent you this 12 quiet daily rituals of enormously successful people, and I thought this would be right up your alley. absolutely matter of fact these are all the things that i do i’m like going if they got a peek through my window it’s fabulous oh my goodness you do all of these number one i looked at number one cheryl and i thought well i need to work on that one number one for enormously successful people they have a calm and consistent morning routine so you really have a morning routine you follow absolutely and it’s funny because it’s all predicated on my dog my dog has to have medication an hour before she eats
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And so I get up, I give her her medication, I go back to sleep, the lights are off, and that’s when I start my meditation. I start looking over my gratitude of what happened the night before. And I look at how I want to set my intention for the day. I sometimes do some deep breathing, depending on how I woke up, to get my attitude right. But it’s all in that hour. And this way, when I give her her medicine, when the hour ends, because I have alarms for all of this, that’s how I start my day, rock and roll.
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Wait, so you don’t fall back asleep after you give your dog the medication and you get back in bed?
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Not typically, particularly now with her seizures and stuff that she’s having. But no, it’s because it’s usually we get up at 6 a.m. every morning. I give her her two pills and then I go back to bed, but not back to sleep. And that’s when I do all of my. you know rituals as you will and it’s just my quiet time the house is quiet the world’s quiet sometimes i’ll hear a train but that’s my time to wake up to set my intention because if you wake up in a lousy mood or i wake up with a nightmare or i’m running around because i don’t have my routine i’m not calm i’m not you know ready to face the day because you know suddenly an alarm didn’t go off and i’m just haggard or just you know i just can’t do it i need to have that routine it brings me a lot of comfort and gets me started on the right foot
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Okay, I can’t believe that you wouldn’t fall back asleep if I turned off the lights. And I do set a lot of alarms, but I would definitely fall back asleep. But I love it that you can meditate and get, you know, go through your gratitude list and not be sleepy. So I applaud you for that. Okay, number two, and they cut back on busy work. And so enormously successful people cut back on busy work. I think I’m pretty good at this. How would you explain this if you were telling someone that you did this?
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I probably owe someone an apology as a result of what I’m about to tell you. I used to keep a really meticulously clean house well beyond what I needed for my dog so she doesn’t counter serve. And I stayed with a friend of mine in San Diego and I was always amazed at how cluttered her house was. Oh, boy. She looked at me one day. She goes, Cheryl, I’m in the business of living. My house can wait. And I’ve never forgotten that because to me that’s busy work. I’d rather be making memories with my kids than worried if the clothes are completely meticulous in my closet. And so it might take me a month to get my closet transitioned from winter to summer and summer to winter. Or it might take me a little extra time in there. But that’s stupid busy work, right? You know, dusting is not going to change the, you know, the whole planet spinning because I have something better to do. And so now I’m a little less rigid, a little less anal and a little less. Yeah, you know, I can wait. Busy work, not business work.
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So wait, you said I can’t believe how cluttered your house is.
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Well, I noticed how cluttered it was and she could see because she knows how anal I am. Right. And she’s like, I know because I had to stay in one of the bedrooms and one of the bedrooms, you know, just had stuff everywhere. And she says, Cheryl, I know this doesn’t work for you, but she goes, I’m too busy running my business and, you know, making memories with my kids that it doesn’t matter anymore. And I, you know, it’s funny because she was like reading my mind and I said nothing. Right. And I’m like, that really hit home because who really cares if the bed’s made today? Is the police going to show up and decide you don’t have a made bed? I’m sure it really doesn’t matter the big scheme of things. But making memory with their kids. Yeah, that’s important.
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Oh, wow. Because I am really good at, you know, creating events and memories and trips and everything. But I’m not that neat. But now I have somebody help me every week. So it’s better now. because my husband grew up in a really clean house his mom stayed home and did not work at all while she was raising the kids so her house was always spotless and she’s like well it’s really easy angie all you need to do is have a day you know a day to do the laundry a day to do the kitchen you know one day you do the living room and she’s talking about deep cleaning and i’m like are you kidding me like i can’t even imagine like i mean it wasn’t the whole day but still like she would devote a significant amount of time
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dishes, make it into the dishwasher. And I think that’s a good day.
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Yes, yes, me too. Okay, so I like the idea of the memories. Okay, number three, enormously successful people, they do something small every day to make progress. And I would say that I’m pretty good at this. In fact, I was really good at this when I was, you know, kind of climbing the ladder of success per se in the TV news business. And so is this something you do as well?
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Absolutely. Matter of fact, I have a project that I just took on. And the way I dissect the project is that’s how I decide whether or not I can meet their timeframe is just I look at it because I’m doing some editing right now. And I look at there’s six different pieces of that project and she needs it in two weeks. Great. So I have 14 days to do six days worth of work that I’m already three days ahead. But the fact is, is that’s the plan is to do one of these things every single day. And right now I will probably finish by Friday and I have an extra week. Oh, wow. So I always have that. But the point is, is that I can never do the whole thing all at once. It’s just too much in the way my mind works there. So everything that I do is I do a little bit for everybody. And what gets me is that making sure that that little bit moves the project forward because it drives me crazy if I make no progress. And so that was something I learned long ago is not it’s not progress or not perfection. It’s progress. So I do a little bit each day and then I can point and measure my progress and then I feel good and then I can cross that sucker off my to done list instead of my to do list. But I just can’t wait till the end of the week and then I’m overwhelmed and then I might not do anything because that’s to me where procrastination comes from. You get too overwhelmed because you have too much to do. And too little time to do it. Just do a little bit each day. It’s not so overwhelming. And then you just can do. I mean, we don’t have to eat the whole elephant. We can just chew on a little bit of an ear today. Everybody can chew on an ear. They just can’t eat the whole elephant.
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That makes it easier. I like that. We’re doing that with my daughter with her literature class. She was having a really hard time. And she wasn’t getting her vocab words down. And she and my husband will work for like 15 minutes four times in the day just to kind of. And she’s gotten between a B plus and an A. on all of her vocab tests since then and she was failing. So that’s really helped her.
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Right. You know, it’s daunting if you want to sit and study for eight hours at a time, it doesn’t work. But if you do 10 minutes here, 10 minutes in the car, 10 minutes on the way to the dentist, you’re right. I mean, there’s just little things and you don’t notice it, but it takes a lot of meticulous planet and planning and habit building, but then it doesn’t seem to be a big deal. You know, 10 minutes with dad, no big deal. You go to school, but four times a day, That’s now a half an hour that isn’t all at once. It’s just a little bit here and you actually remember and learn better. So kudos to you and him for doing that. That works very well.
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OK. All right. So this you did a TED talk. If people haven’t seen Dr. Cheryl Lentz did a TED talk and you basically talk about failing to success or failing forward. And that on the list is number four. They gradually turn life’s obstacles around. So it’s not really an obstacle anymore. You’re pretty good at this, I would say.
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Well, it’s one of those things that’s funny. I had a breakfast meeting this morning and I was just amazed by my companions. It was a business meeting and all of the seemingly lucky business decisions he was making. But if you see how he consistently he says, what’s I asked him, it’s like, what’s your secret? He goes, you just got to show up. And I was thinking to myself, going, man, you know what? Where opportunity and preparedness meet, and all it is is sometimes if you’re just in the right place at the right time, but you have to be at the right place at the right time, right? You don’t make any shots you don’t take, but sometimes you’re going to get lucky because you took a shot. You might fail, but you might succeed, but if you’re not there, we know you won’t succeed at all. So I think that’s an interesting corollary to just take what happens and take a shot at it, and then if it doesn’t work, then you do it again, and then you do something different next time, but the point is is you got to show up in order to take the shot in order to turn the obstacle around many people don’t succeed because they never take the shot because they don’t want to fail so we just put it in like your daughter it’s like well i can you know do 10 minutes a day well that’s not a big deal it’s not hard to do 10 minutes a day it might be hard to do 10 hours a day so let’s just grind it down to a little bit let’s hit the basket maybe one more time than we did yesterday well that’s doable that’s that’s definitely turning life’s obstacles around and it’s all how you frame it but i loved his this morning i’ll give him credit for it it’s Just show up. Just make sure you’re just actually there. And you would be amazed at how many people don’t even show up. And I’m like, I’ll be darned. There is a secret for us there.
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I’m going to skip ahead because I don’t have a ton of time. They mindfully focus on the positive. Well, that’s what you do every morning. You said when you wake up, you go back to bed and talk about or think about your gratitude list. And so you’re mindfully focusing on the positive.
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It is. And sometimes it takes me a little while because I don’t wake up Susie Sunshine. And it’s funny. I don’t either. By Joe Dispenza. And he says, you know what, sometimes I have to disappear because it’ll take me an hour for me to stop complaining and whining that I do to myself because I can’t get my attitude because I’m still chapped about what happened yesterday. Right. Something didn’t go right. And then that’s where the meditation you have to be really sincere so that you can turn your attitude right. If I don’t get it right, I can start my day a little bit. Snarky is what I call it.
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You know, I’m going to skip ahead to number 10 because I know we both do this and I probably do it by doing my interviews with people like you on my show and I talk to my mentor Jim Stovall once a week. And so number 10 on the list is… enormously successful people have mentors they observe and consult with and I’m sure people that you know listen to the show they know that when I get some of these experts on the show I will use my life as examples because whether it’s raising kids you know dealing with ADHD bullies, family happiness, marital happiness. I have all these experts on the show. So why not use some of the examples from my own life that I could probably use a little help with myself, you know, and hopefully they help others. But I really do feel like I consult with my mentors every week with some of my regular guests and even just the authors that come on once. And so I know you do this as well.
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Absolutely. And part of that, quite frankly, is two things to get your ego out of the way and to be vulnerable enough to say you’re not a perfect human being. And I don’t know anyone who is, but I know a lot of people, they get stuck in that failure thing. They get stuck in beating themselves up by it’s just like, well, you could do that. And that’s the victim mentality. Or you could turn it around and go talk to somebody, go talk to your mentor. It’s like, oh, yeah, I did that once. And here’s how it turned out for me. And just get over yourself. And sometimes we need that process time because we need to vent. When we talk to somebody else, they’re like going, you know what, there are people starving in Ukraine right now. Do you really want to get hung up on what you’re talking about that really doesn’t matter and probably won’t matter in three days? So what are you complaining about? And that sometimes can give us that perspective to say, you’re right, you know, it’s not as big of a deal as I’m making it out to do. And that’s the emotionality piece.
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Well, you mentioned ego there. And it’s interesting you say that because enormously successful people, they keep their pride in check. They keep their pride in check. Isn’t that the truth?
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Well, and it has to be in there because we’re not perfect, and anyone who says that they are is a liar. And it’s easy when things go right. It is not, and when it doesn’t, and you and I have talked about this a long time, the fact that when things don’t go right, it’s when character shows up. What are you going to do about it? I could sit and whine about it. I could sit and throw a fit and do a temper tantrum, or I could sit there and try and care about somebody else other than me. I can try and look at what’s the impact of my team, look at the impact, or just decide going, you know, in the big scheme of things, this just isn’t important to the deal, and then just let it go. And that’s hard to do, but you’ve got to recognize that sometimes the ego, you know what, it’s not all about you. The world doesn’t revolve around you. Sorry to tell that to millennials too sometimes. We just have to realize it’s about everybody. And that sense of community, when you take the eyes off you, it makes things a little bit less stressful because you focus on someone else. And then your stuff just doesn’t seem to be that big of a deal anymore.
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I like this one as well. We only have a minute left. And I know you’ve had to be watch yourself because you do give honest feedback. But sometimes people don’t welcome honest feedback and enormously successful people do. But I know that you can be very forthright and very forward with your thoughts. And so you’ve kind of had to hedge that a little bit, haven’t you? Like, are you interested in some honest feedback?
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exactly that’s the question i said how honest do you want to be it’s something that i always tend to do because i figured out early a lot of people don’t want my opinion they want theirs confirmed and that gets me into a lot of trouble and so now i want to know what the boundaries are and i want to be able to say okay what are you expecting if you’re expecting me to be able to give your opinion back to you typically when you agree with someone you’re going to be right on the money and instantly without having to qualify it when i qualify with a well do you want me to be gives them pause to be able to look at whether or not we can have that honest conversation only once in 20 years have I ever said someone no and they said okay fine no we won’t even engage but I think if you ask then the ground rules are set because if you don’t you can get yourself in a spot of trouble if you don’t know your audience well I love it that you ask it because then they are most likely going to say yes but they’re prepared for what you’re going to say Cheryl give us your website DrCherylLenz.com excellent thank you Fred it was fun
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Paxton is listening to the Mighty 670 KLT Denver. Hey, if you are just joining us, this is Angie Austin with the good news. You know, I’m an animal lover. My husband says if I get one more pet, we’ll have to get a zoo license. It is a zoo around here. Well, today we’re talking about a subject some people don’t know about. I actually don’t even know that much about it. Did you know that certain dog breeds are bred so that they end up with physical defects that actually harm the dog and put their health at risk and their puppy’s health at risk? People are so used to seeing panting pugs and snorting bulldogs, and we just think it’s normal, right? Well, it’s anything but. Imagine a life of struggling for oxygen with every breath. Well, that’s the reality for such dogs like French and English bulldogs, Boston Terriers, pugs. And these are other, I guess they call them breathing impaired breeds, bibs. And they’ve been purposefully bred to have almost no noses. Well, joining us to discuss what we can do and to learn more about this and how it can be avoided is Jacob Shaw, manager of Strategic Initiatives for People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals. Hey, Jacob, how are you?
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I’m doing well. Thank you so much for having me on to talk about this. I’m really looking forward to it.
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You know I’m one of your people. OK, let’s first of all, just tell us about this, because when I was reading that some of the dogs, their snouts are like they’re missing. And I’m like, wait a second. They are. And their faces are pushed in and they’ve you know, their airways are distorted. They almost have no nose. Like, how did it end up like this? Where did it start?
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Yeah, that’s a great place to start. Start off. So dogs didn’t evolve to have these completely unnatural smushed faces with practically no snout. Because, of course, there’s no evolutionary advantage to having a smushed-in face with no skin. But breeders have intentionally bred these dogs to have deformed features. And then they’ve sold the public on these extreme and cartoonish looks. So when we talk about breeding-impaired dogs, we’re referring to French Bulldogs, English Bulldogs, Pugs, Shih Tzus, Boston Terriers. And these are now the most popular dogs in the country. even though they spend their entire lives wheezing, gasping, and panting. And there’s a really simple solution to help protect these dogs from the suffering, and that’s for all of us to stop buying these flat-faced dogs.
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You know, maybe a year or two ago, I got friends with dogs like this, and one of them said, oh, yeah, we don’t go for walks. I’m like, what do you mean? And she goes, well, my husband is a little bit lazy when he’s at home, so we were actually looking for kind of a lazy breed that he wouldn’t have to walk. And it’s that new really popular dog. I wasn’t familiar about it until like a year or two. And I think it’s an English Bulldog. Is that the one that’s so popular now?
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Yes, exactly. So English Bulldogs are one of the most popular dogs in the country and French Bulldogs for the last three years in a row. Yes, that’s the one. That’s the one.
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Yes, yes, yes. And so they have like three now. And she said they specifically got a lazy dog. And I’m like, well, why is the dog lazy? Oh, it’s not lazy. It can’t breathe outside. And they can’t go for walks because they will pass out or, you know, have to take them to the emergency, you know, to the vets, because it’s not that they’re lazy it’s that they no longer can like exercise like a regular dog and so I just thought at first when she explained it it was just a lazy breed but no they’ve been bred to have this physical defect so they can barely function when they exert themselves in any manner whatsoever so I just started learning about this so let’s talk about some of the other health conditions that these breathing impaired dogs and the dangers they face with this kind of defect that’s spread into them
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Yes, so you are exactly right. The snorting sound that we all associate with French bulldogs and English bulldogs or pugs, you know, these are the sounds of the dog struggling to breathe through restricted airways. And you put it perfectly that these dogs are not lazy or low energy. They literally can’t get enough oxygen to do a lot of the things that make a dog’s life joyful and fulfilling, like, you know, chasing a ball, playing with other dogs, or even something as simple as going for a walk. Because for them, breathing through their nose is like trying to suck in air through a tiny straw. And no dog should have to live like that. Not too long ago, it just would have been completely unthinkable to intentionally breed dogs to have these extreme physical features.
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It should be considered that way now. It’s so crazy. And people are adopting dogs and they don’t even know this has been done to them and is harming them.
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Exactly. Yeah, exactly. And really the issue is that Breeders continue to breed these suffering dogs because people keep buying them. The breeding industry is big business, so as long as there’s money to be made in breeding, showing, and selling these dogs, breeders will always focus on maximizing their profits, and they’ll continue to churn out litter after litter of unhealthy dogs, no matter how many of them suffer and die in the process.
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Or I have a question for you. Let’s say, you know, my friend, she adopted these dogs and didn’t know that this was bred into them and created a defect in her dog, Zuh, now plural. She has, I think, three. How can someone with an already breathing impaired dog, you know, so they’ve got the dog, you know, what’s done is done. They didn’t even know this was bred into them purposefully. How can they make them more comfortable? Is there anything they can do?
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So the first thing is just to recognize that how often these dogs are in discomfort and learn to recognize those signs. So we constantly see people posting videos of their dogs snorting and wheezing, not understanding that these are not just normal sounds the dogs make. These are the sounds of a dog struggling to breathe through an obstructed airway. So they do need these breathing impaired dogs. They need special care and attention because they’ve been intentionally bred to have these deformed extreme features and really bodies that don’t work for them. So the most important thing to do is to keep them out of hot and humid environments because they’re not able to cool themselves like other dogs can. So they’re really susceptible to heat stroke and heat-related illnesses, especially for people who live and areas where it gets really hot during the summer, it’s critical to make sure they’re being walked during the cool parts of the day, not overexerting themselves. And for everyone who has one of these dogs, regular veterinary appointments are important so that they could get the care they need for these chronic health issues. For these dogs, it’s not a matter of if, it’s a matter of when. And for the breathing issues, the when is every day.
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okay so uh they just have to be aware of when they should be exercising or walking their dog if they can even do that and if you’re in texas in the you know heat of the summer with all the humidity do not take that dog out and exercise that animal be aware that this is um you know a defect in your animal that it can’t function like a regular dog and then in terms of um breeders and you’re buying these particular types of dogs can they be like bred in a way that they’re okay or are there has the breed just deteriorated to the point where any pug or any French Bulldog you get has these defects or are there some that still you know look the old way that actually kind of have a snout or has that been bred out of them?
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So you know more and more we’re seeing these dogs have increasingly extreme features. What happens is that when breeders breed these dogs to have their noses and snouts pushed so far back against their skulls, it’s like an accordion. Everything gets whipped up on the inside and then none of their anatomical features can function properly. More broadly, I mean, purebred dogs really are inbred dogs. What makes them purebred is coming from these specific purebred lines, which means that they don’t have a wide enough gene pool. And whether we’re talking about flat-faced, breathing-impaired dogs or other of these so-called purebred breeds, they all suffer from these congenital health issues. And what that means is this is not like your dog catching a virus or something. something later on in life, these are defects that they are born with and that will cause these dogs to struggle and to suffer throughout their lives. So anyone who wants to and has the resources and the time to care for a dog, should go to their local open admission shelter and fall in love with one of the many sweet adoptable dogs they’re just waiting to find a loving home.
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You know, I know this is a weird comparison, but it kind of reminds me of that old Chinese practice where they would wrap, you know, girls’ feet when they were little and break their arches. So their feet wouldn’t grow. And then they got to the point where they were handicapped, where some of them, because they wanted the feet to be about three inches long, where they couldn’t walk anymore. And it’s like, it just reminds me of that barbaric practice of doing something to the body that gives it a handicap through, you know, an outside means of doing something to manipulate the body.
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It’s a great comparison. In 2025, with all we know, about how much dogs suffer when they’re bred to have these extreme and cartoonish looks. It’s really inexcusable to continue to breed them to have these features that will cause them to suffer.
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So what’s the solution? What do we do? I mean, you know, we don’t buy these dogs. We look for a dog at a shelter that, you know, isn’t one of these breeds. But, you know, I mean, if they’re already bred and they need a home, I mean, I probably would adopt a pug if he needed a place. What do we do?
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So society-wide, the solution is simple. It’s to stop breeding and buying these flat-faced, breathing-impaired dogs. We do ask that everybody who already has a breathing-impaired dog commit to making that dog’s life as fulfilling as possible. healthy and comfortable as possible and to pledge to never buy another one. Veterinary expenses for these dogs because they’re plagued with these health issues can be astronomically high, which is part of the reason why we see so many of them ending up in shelters. If someone is dead set on adopting a pug or a French bulldog, Pet Finder is a tool that can help people find specific dogs at shelters. We always encourage people to to just go to a shelter and meet dogs and match with them based on their personalities and who they are, not how they look.
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I think it’s neat, you know, as you work with PETA, you’re the manager of strategic initiatives for PETA, that, you know, you do other things to help animals as well. I used to work for NBC in Los Angeles, NBC4, not far from where I know you did some work in Ojai. to help with some, you know, protecting animals in another way. But what gave you a passion for doing this kind of work?
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Oh, that’s a great question. Really, it was Charlotte’s Web. When I was about eight years old, I read Charlotte’s Web and I just fell in love with Wilbur the pig. And You know, shortly after reading it, I started to ask questions about why we ate pigs if they’re the heroes of our stories and we love them. And, you know, after that, I stopped eating pigs. And from there, my love of animals really just grew. And I’ve now been at PETA for three and a half years. And they’ve been probably the most rewarding and fulfilling years of my life because they’re Every single day, there are so many animals who are suffering and who need our help. And in many of these instances, all it takes is a small amount of consideration and kindness from us humans to really help protect them from some of the worst suffering.
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Yeah, that’s pretty cool. Yeah, I love to find out why people kind of get into their area of expertise. And I would think that it would be fulfilling to help that many animals. I mean, I try to adopt, you know, from shelters, et cetera, you know, when I can. And I’ve got five pets here right now, which makes it a little hard to go on vacation. I have to like, I’m flying in my brother and my mother for two weeks. We can go on our family cruise. It’s like, I have to like bring in family to like watch my zoo. But I want to make sure, Jacob, that people can get more information if they want to look into this more and share this with other friends who may want to get a dog like that has been bred like this. Where do we go?
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So the best place to go for more information is PETA.org. That’s P-E-T-A dot O-R-G. So it has, you know, more information about health issues to look out for for these breathing impaired dogs and a number of other breeds. And it also has some great information about, you know, where to adopt dogs from, which, you know, the answer is always going to be your local shelter is the first place to look and some tips about how to go about the adoption process.
SPEAKER 06 :
Excellent. Well, I’m looking forward to the next time you join me, and maybe I’ll go back and reread Charlotte’s Web. It’s been a while. Thank you, Jacob.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, it’s a good one. Definitely evergreen. Thank you for the great conversation, and happy holidays.
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You too. It is a good one. Thanks.
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Thank you for listening to The Good News with Angie Austin on AM670 KLTT.