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The discussion takes a sharp turn as the hosts explore social media giant Facebook’s surprising policy change towards embracing free speech. As skepticism arises about Mark Zuckerberg’s motives, the conversation burrows into the potential impacts of this shift on media and public perception. In addition, the episode emphasizes the importance of diligent awareness in face of growing global threats, enriched by thoughtful conversations on culture and politics.
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SPEAKER 04 :
Back with another week of the National Crawford Roundtable podcast with all of the guys, Neil and John, myself, Bob. Hey, guys, how are you? Happy 2025. Happy New Year, man. Good. Well, you too. You know, there’s a lot of things for us to talk about here.
SPEAKER 02 :
Come on, Bob. There’s nothing going on right now. Nothing.
SPEAKER 04 :
Nothing really happening in the news. Let’s see. You know, we’ve got a distant suburb here of Detroit that’s putting in a new playscape in the local park. So maybe we’ll talk about that for an hour. Got it. Oh, boy. No, there’s actually a whole bunch of things going on. We’ve got the wildfires in California. We have the terrorist attack in New Orleans that took place. We’ve got Mark Zuckerberg announcing there. What do you know? Going to embrace free speech and not censorship. Justin Trudeau in Canada stepping down. Joe Biden’s executive action banning drilling. Drill, baby, drill. January 6th, four years later, should Trump pardon? I mean, there’s just so many different things for us to talk about. So let’s just start diving through and peppering them one at a time. Let’s start with the wildfires, first of all. John, you and I were talking about this a little bit before the podcast started. Every time… Every time we see these wildfires in California, it makes my eye twitch because you wonder, when are the liberal Hollywood types and the rich gazillionaires out there that are watching their mansions burn, when are they going to realize that the environmental policies of left-wing California to refuse to properly manage the forest, refuse to clear the underbrush, because after all, we can’t mess with the natural habitat of the Norwegian spotted worm. I mean… When are they going to realize that their own environmental policies caused the slightest spark to, boom, spread like wildfire?
SPEAKER 02 :
And it happens all over the country, Bob. It’s not just California, although with California, it seems like it’s an annual repetitive thing. And again, my hearts and thoughts and prayers go out to the people that are being affected by this. I mean, I, you know, full hand understand exactly what they’re going through. On the same token, to your point, Bob, there are ways to mitigate this on the front side. And a lot of folks, even in the, you know, power company end of things and so on, will tell the states, these are the things that we should be doing, but then they’re not allowed to.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. Exactly. And, you know, Neil, I don’t know. You don’t really we don’t hear that many wildfires spreading through New York or Michigan, I suppose. But it I mean, John makes a good point. They’re not managing the forests properly. But if they did, then the environmentalists get all up in arms over it.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, well, and I mean, the only wildfires that we’ve been affected by in any way were Canadian wildfires. And in some ways, because of the same policies you’re seeing in places like Canada, I thank God I live in Buffalo, New York, and I’ll take a snowstorm over a wildfire any day. But you’re 100% right. And if the policies of the government of the state of California and federal government policies are contributing to this, then it’s time to open their eyes and realize that this is costing them way more in the long run.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
All right, so we’ll see, but obviously we want to be praying for the people out there.
SPEAKER 02 :
Really quick, just to throw this in, the whole environmental end of things and so on, you never hear them talk about, because of the lack of planning on the front side and trying to eliminate as many of these fires, how much smoke and pollution and things along those lines go up into the sky and the atmosphere and people are having to breathe and so on, that if we manage things correctly on the front side, and this is always also interesting, I just looked at the nationwide fire map There’s not just one fire in California, guys. There’s about 30 right now across the western United States.
SPEAKER 04 :
I’m thinking they should figure out what the carbon footprint of this is. Yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
The thing about the Canadian wildfires, and the reason I mentioned it, is because we were affected for the better part of two weeks by the smoke that was trailing down here, drifting across like a Chinese spy balloon. And it covered a good portion of the upper northeast, and it became a real issue. All of it was wafting out of Canada. We had it here in Michigan, too. Did you really?
SPEAKER 02 :
It came all the way down here to Colorado, guys.
SPEAKER 1 :
Wow.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
Good Lord. Yeah, that’s a big problem.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, maybe the answer is just putting some tariffs on Canada. Maybe we’ll get to that, too. We haven’t had a chance to talk about the terrorist attack in New Orleans here on the podcast. The New Year’s Day, early in the morning, early New Year’s Eve, but in the middle of the night, bourbon street this islamic jihadi terrorist let’s call it the way that it is right drives his truck through a crowd of people and he had already scanned out and scoped the area prior to this we now know but killing 14 people injuring over 30 this was an islamic jihadi terrorist attack and no this guy wasn’t an illegal alien okay he was born here in the united states he was a a He lived in Houston. He was a U.S. citizen. OK, but he was, quote unquote, radicalized, which basically converted to Islam. Family was actually raised a Christian family, but he converted to Islam. But he converted to and I know this is politically incorrect, but I’m just going to say it. He converted to pure Islam, the kind of Islam that Muhammad himself practiced. OK. And but the fact is that I’m glad that most Muslims converted. don’t embrace jihadi terrorism. I’m glad that they don’t, but that’s because they’re nominal Muslims who aren’t really following what Muhammad taught and what’s in the Quran and what’s in the Hadiths. But it’s like, okay, fine. But that’s who this guy was. That’s what he did. And then a few hours later, you have this Tesla explosion with this guy that, for all intent and purposes, appears to be a Trump supporter and then blows himself up in front of the Trump Hotel, right in front of it in Las Vegas. And it’s like, what in the world is going on here? Tom Holman, the incoming Trump border czar, says his gut tells him that these two are probably connected, but he could be wrong. It looks to me like it might just be two freakish coincidences. But I mean, I don’t know what you guys take on this.
SPEAKER 02 :
It’s almost like, and I’ve read a lot, and of course, one guy from Carter Springs, the Cybertruck guy, and Sons and I were talking a lot about this after it had happened, and that one of the two guys is just weird. And I’m not, you guys know me, I’m not a tinfoil hat conspiracy theorist by any stretch of the imagination, but… That one, just for some odd reason, I don’t know, just doesn’t add up. Now, was he just trying to raise awareness as to what’s really going on in the country and wanted to, according to his manifesto, bring all of that to light and so on? Guys, I don’t know. I have no idea. But that one of the two doesn’t add up.
SPEAKER 04 :
And he rents a Tesla. It’s not like he owned it and he just used his own car.
SPEAKER 02 :
He rented it.
SPEAKER 04 :
Specifically rented a Tesla. So this was clearly an Elon Musk, Donald Trump message from a Trump supporter. Unless maybe he was one of the disillusioned guys that, for whatever reason, went sour on Trump and didn’t have time to post his I’ve changed my mind about Trump and Musk on social media kind of stuff.
SPEAKER 02 :
You’re right. I’m scratching my head, too. Was it that he was trying to send a message and he got a Cybertruck knowing that you’d have the least amount of casualty coming out of that? I mean, this guy was an expert. He could have blown up the entire tower had he wanted to. He could have blown up a whole city block if he wanted to. That’s the kind of expertise this guy had in his background. So, again, I’m not a conspiracy theorist, but this is the one out of the two that just doesn’t add up.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, I suspect personally that they were unrelated. I mean, that’s my gut feeling, and the reason I say that is because… Of some of the other things that have circulated regarding the situation in Las Vegas, you know, the Tesla situation, one being that there was some sort of question about infidelity in his family. Also, that he was potentially suffering from PTSD and CTE. And I mean, you know, like Mike Webster of the Pittsburgh Steelers took his own life because he couldn’t handle what was happening inside his head regarding CTE. So who knows just how damaged this individual was and what exactly was going on there? You know, was it a, hey, I’m in favor of Trump and Musk and I want to go out in a blaze of glory kind of thing? I don’t know. So I would hate to speculate on that one. Regarding the one in New Orleans, just real quick. I don’t—you know, there’s a lot of criticism of they should have had more barriers up and everything, and that’s the human response to all this stuff. It’s always, well, if we just did a better job, if we beefed up security a little bit more, we could stop this. Well, are you telling me that there wasn’t any people on the other side of the barrier, or if there had been a barrier in place? I mean, you could go to a Walmart parking lot in New Orleans and drive a truck through a crowd of people coming out of a Walmart, taking advantage of an after-Christmas sale. Like— I don’t know that we’re ever really going to be able to stop that kind of stuff. And I don’t want to minimize the idea of national security or anything. We certainly need it. But ultimately, it comes down to human hearts. And I mean, I say this very tongue in cheek and not disrespectfully, but. For all the people that call for common sense gun laws, well, we’ve now seen a couple of trucks driven into crowds. You had the Christmas market incident in Germany. What do we need? Common sense truck laws? Stricter licensing laws or common sense laws regarding how to get a driver’s license? That’s not going to stop these events. And ultimately… We need to pray and do the best we can to secure public sites. And I know the Super Bowl is going to be in New Orleans and all of that, but it comes down to we need to change human hearts, and only Jesus can do that.
SPEAKER 04 :
That’s so true. And, of course, we have to wonder how many ISIS terrorists, al-Qaeda terrorists, have flooded over the borders, the open borders over the last four years and are infiltrated here in the United States. And, you know, this guy was homegrown. Okay, fine. But, you know, how many others and like-minded people are here and what kind of cells are building and operating? Remember, 9-11 took six years to plan and carry out from 19 people. How many hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of ISIS jihadis do we have in this country right now through the open borders?
SPEAKER 02 :
And I think just as a note to everybody listening, Bob, our listeners, that you’ve got to be diligent. You’ve got to be watching. I hate to say that, but you’ve got to have your head on a swivel and be paying attention to everything that’s going on at all times. And not to be critical, but my dad always told me nothing good happens after midnight.
SPEAKER 03 :
Very true. My mom said the same thing. They were both right. I know.
SPEAKER 04 :
And be careful out there and pay attention. Actually, you know what, Neal, I will say because coming up next we’re going to talk about Mark Zuckerberg, Meta, Facebook, and all of that and the changes coming there. And we do, Neal, appreciate people listening to this podcast. We certainly appreciate them supporting the sponsors of this podcast like SunPowerLED.
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SPEAKER 02 :
It’s a business decision. It’s a CYA business decision. Let’s make sure that we can keep moving forward like we’ve done. I want to stay the billionaire that I am. I want the company to continue to grow. We know who’s going to now be in charge. We’ve got to make sure that we kiss the right ring, if you would, Bob. And at the end of the day, that’s what this is all about. Yeah, he did not have some come-to-Jesus meeting and all of a sudden turn the tide. He’s doing this strictly for his business.
SPEAKER 04 :
And I’ll tell you what, Democrats get back control of Congress in 2028 or 2026. If that happens, 2026, 2027, they get in. They take back control of the House or the Senate. You watch. Suddenly they’re going to bring back third party fact checkers or at least they’ll be making their same algorithm mistakes and glitches that coincidentally are 100 percent against Republicans and zero percent against Democrats. So, Neil, I’m just I’m not buying it, but at least, hey, temporarily, it looks like conservatives will at least have a social media viewpoint that’s allowed to be heard.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, I don’t know if you used the term Trump factor, but I think you talked about it prior to today’s podcast. Yeah, I mean, there’s been a major change.
SPEAKER 02 :
And really quick, you know, Neil, before you move on, is it a Trump factor or is this also because of what Musk did with X, you now have to compete on a different level?
SPEAKER 03 :
Probably both. In fact, for sure both. But I think there’s a third element, and that’s what happened in the election. And yes, Trump was a part of the election. But there’s a real change in the attitude amongst Americans about the way government functions and about what we’re hearing from the national media, etc., etc. And I honestly think that the successful CBS lawsuit that Trump filed against CBS – for defamation, you know, weighs into it as well. And so what you got here is a guy who’s not stupid. He’s running a multi-million or billion-dollar company, and he sees the handwriting on the wall. And what’s going to be good for business? What do we need to do to make people, placate people anyway, make them to believe that we’re on their team and we really care about things like free speech? We care about your free speech. Well, you didn’t 10 minutes ago. But after the election, all of a sudden, oh, this is all going to change. And I think you’re 100 percent right, Bob, to be really skeptical about Zuckerberg’s attitude on all this.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, well, I’m I’m not buying it. But, hey, you know what? We’ll take the temporary opportunity to to at least be able to get some of our viewpoints out there.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, and really quick guys, the only other thing, again, keeping him in check is, is now X. I mean, I don’t know what, I haven’t looked to see what, you know, Facebook has done, what their revenue has been like and so on, but you got to believe that X is taking a big dent out of the Facebooks of the world. Right.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, and let’s face it, there is kind of a move right now. There’s a wave of sentiment that says the left-wing censorship machine and targeting conservatives or whatever has gotten out of hand. There is some blowback from that. And, you know, so it could be a thing where Zuckerberg just realizes, you know what, here’s the direction the wind is blowing. And so I got to go with the winds right now. But I don’t believe that that’s in his heart at all, no matter how many statements they put out going, this is getting back to the roots of what we really believe in. And no, it’s not. You’re a bunch of left wing liberals.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, I think there’s a big difference. Yeah. I think there’s a big difference between what people can see with their own eyes and what they’ve been told they need to believe. Right. I mean, you had government officials covering up the whole Biden thing. He’s 100 percent fit. He’s totally ready to serve another four years. So you had government officials telling you that you had the legacy media falling into place. you know leaders in congress and so forth schumer by the way you know acting like he’s always been aware that there might be a problem or that he never really knew it was a problem now they’re playing clips of him you know talking about the fact that if you even mentioned biden’s mental acuity a few years ago you were basically a conspiracy theorist i mean the american people february just less than a year ago he said that’s right-wing propaganda Right. Okay. So the American people have been accused of being conspiracy theorists. And I think they’ve come to their senses and said, no, we’re not. And now we have proof. So in that environment, combined with everything else we said, I don’t think Zuckerberg thinks it’s going to be a good practice, particularly, as John said, because of what X has been doing and popularity of X right now regarding free speech.
SPEAKER 04 :
You know, in Canada, and Neil, both you and me have a decent amount of Canadian listeners to our shows, you got Justin Trudeau, prime minister, announcing his resignation. All right, so replace me with somebody else to take on Pierre Polyev, the conservative, who’s kind of being treated as a Canadian Donald Trump. He’s a populist and somewhat conservative and such. But you know what? A poll, a recent poll was taken in Canada asking Canadians, do you support the Conservative Party or the Liberal Party, which in essence is like the Republicans, Democrats here, 47% said the Conservatives, 18% said the Liberal Party. And then the rest are like, I don’t know. But my goodness, that’s a that’s a huge difference. And Neil, what are some of your thoughts on Justin Trudeau, in essence, getting pushed out by his own liberal party for not being liberal left wing enough and not being willing to stand up to Donald Trump regarding the tariffs and such?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, obviously we’ve got a conservative listening audience by and large and a tremendous number of Canadians. We’re very near Toronto and we cover the Toronto area. So that’s kind of like New York City to the north. So about 75% of the listening audience to my radio program is Canadian. And there was literally elation over the announcement that he was going to be stepping down. Couldn’t happen fast enough. People want Trudeau out. And it’s not just like he’s been liberal. He’s… off the rails progressively liberal he could if he was a woman he could have been member of the squad or if he identified as one i guess you know like just absolutely liberal policies that mainstream canadians want nothing to do with long term so i think that there’s hope that some sanity is going to be restored to the country but you know they’re under tremendous burden right now the federal government in canada if i have this information right spent $6,000 per family in Canada above their means. Like, in other words, take the Canadian budget and then add $6,000 per family. That’s how much they overspent last year. They’ve got billions and billions of dollars in federal annual deficit that they have to deal with. Taxes are overwhelming, people can’t afford homes, and they want change. And they don’t want nonsense. And I think, honestly, that freedom convoy on the heels of COVID had a lot to do with turning people against Trudeau and the liberal government and saying, we don’t want any more of this progressive baloney. Give us some common sense again. We want common sense back.
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SPEAKER 04 :
Continuing the second half of the National Crawford Roundtable podcast with John Rush, Rush to Reason out of Denver, Colorado, Neil Boron, Neil Boron Live out of Buffalo, New York, myself, Bob Duco, the Bob Duco Show out of Detroit. And so, guys, when we got to the end of the first half, we were talking about what’s happening in Canada, Justin Trudeau stepping down from his Liberal Party. And, you know, John, I’m curious to get your take on this, too, because Justin Trudeau – It’s not like he’s a left-of-center guy. He’s a Marxist. He’s extremely left-wing Marxist. Absolutely. And an important point that Neil made about that, remember the truckers, the freedom convoy of truckers. But not just that. Pastors like Artur Pawlowski that he had imprisoned, imprisoning pastors, throwing business owners in jail because they were trying to keep their small business open for the sake of their livelihood. Right. Freezing people’s assets? Yeah, seizing the bank accounts and freezing the bank accounts of not just some of these truckers, but even supporters that would attend rallies for them. A pastor shows up and merely speaks, doesn’t call for violence, nothing at all. He gets handcuffed and thrown in jail for this, so…
SPEAKER 02 :
I say this guy’s a total Marxist and I don’t have the same connections to Canada that you two do, although I’ve got some good friends that live up in that area. And the minute I heard the news, I sent a text message off. Let’s just say that at least the Canadians I know are not disappointed in the least, Bob, because of all the things you and Neil have just got done talking about.
SPEAKER 04 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 02 :
The guy’s literally a Marxist monster. I know he doesn’t come across that way. He’s got this sort of baby face look and so on. The guy is an absolute Marxist monster.
SPEAKER 04 :
He’s like a Gavin Newsom. He reminds me of Gavin Newsom.
SPEAKER 02 :
That’s right.
SPEAKER 04 :
Good looking, has a charm to him, things like that.
SPEAKER 02 :
All the while he’s sticking a knife in your back.
SPEAKER 04 :
He smiles and you see the points on his teeth. I mean, that’s right. That’s who this guy is. Just like Joe Biden. He’s not sweet little Grandpa Joe.
SPEAKER 02 :
Oh, no.
SPEAKER 04 :
He’s a vindictive guy who says that half the country is a bunch of garbage. And so, you know, whatever.
SPEAKER 02 :
So really quick, for my behalf, since I don’t know because you guys are much closer to this, what’s your predictions as to what happens next in Canada?
SPEAKER 04 :
I think Pierre Polyev becomes the new prime minister. That would be a huge change. I know the sentiment in Canada right now seems to be moving toward conservatism. And it’s a temporary blip. But, hey, we’ll take whatever temporary blip we can. I don’t know. What do you think? Do you have any thoughts on Polyev? And I actually had – by the way, if you look at how this guy’s name is spelled, it looks like it should be like Poilevray or whatever. But really it’s – But, Neil, any thoughts on this guy, and do you think he’s got a good chance here in the upcoming elections?
SPEAKER 03 :
I was listening to a podcast he did with Jordan Peterson, and he’s pretty impressive. I mean, he’s very well-spoken. He also is very good-looking. I’m personally not attracted, but you know what I’m saying?
SPEAKER 04 :
Hey, Neil, I mean, it’s a whatever, I guess, isn’t it?
SPEAKER 02 :
He’s got that curb appeal to him is what you mean, Neil.
SPEAKER 03 :
Exactly. I mean, he’s got charisma and the whole thing, and I think it’s probably a lock that he’s going to be the next prime minister of Canada. But they have a very different way that they do government, and anything could happen. In fact, one of the people that’s being considered potentially is somebody that was originally an ally to Trudeau, and that was Chrystia Freeland. A former finance minister was an ally of Trudeau. And it’s interesting because the minute Trudeau came down to the U.S., met with Trump, and then started floating some crazy ideas about things they could do to her. Yeah, and she was out. She distanced herself from him, quit, said, I’m out. And people, I think, took that to mean that maybe she’s considering herself to be a potential candidate for the future. Yeah. You know, Donald Trump made other statements that I think were basically tongue-in-cheek, you know, like Canada’s going to become the 51st state, and he was referring to Trudeau as the governor of Canada. And I think, you know, some people that lived there were laughing, but others weren’t. I mean, I know enough, half of my family’s from Canada. My mother was Canadian. So there’s an awful lot of Canadians that have a very strong sense of nationalism and And, you know, they’ve been dealing with all the same stuff we have, too, with open borders and high taxes and incredibly liberal policies. But none of them have ever said they want to be a part of the United States. So I don’t think that’s going to fly well if Donald Trump actually tried to push that issue. But either way, we’re going to see some incredible things happening in the next couple of months regarding what, you know, what happens to the leadership of Canada. Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
You know, Trump is being Trump in this case. He’s trolling. I don’t think he actually really believes that Canada would ever vote to become part of the United States, of course. So he’s doing some trolling on his way out. But no real surprise, I suppose. But I don’t know. I mean, John, by the way, what do you think, John, of Trump and the way that he’s handling, let’s face it, he got Trudeau unannounced to fly down to Mar-a-Lago and go, but please don’t do 25%. And I got to say, to Trump’s credit, the people at the table, they said that Trump was being friendly, but still very directly said, yeah, I’m serious about these 25% tariffs. We have a $100 billion trade imbalance with you, and that’s not right, that’s not fair. And then Trudeau apparently said, uh, You can’t impose these tariffs on us. This will destroy our economy. And Trump instantly shot back. Also, your economy can’t survive unless you rip us off for $100 billion. By the way, good comeback. Maybe we should just become our 51st state. What a great comeback.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, no, great comeback. And again, I’m with you guys. I think Trump does a lot of posturing, and he’s kind of one of those guys where he speaks really loudly. Is it really going to come down to the things that he says? Probably not, although the appearance of, hey, I’m going to go down this path is enough to typically get people to move off dead center. and get done what he wants to. I’ve never read The Art of the Deal. I’m guessing some of this might actually be in the book. I guess at some point I should stop and read the book just so I know kind of what he thinks along those lines. But it’s part of his negotiating end of things. And I think, by the way, to his credit, it works very well. Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
Let’s talk about the Joe Biden executive action where he banned drilling, onshore and offshore drilling. This is a big topic, by the way. It really is. And he did it by attaching it to a 1963 congressionally passed law, which means that Trump isn’t able to undo this for executive action, although I think Trump may try to do that and then it’ll go through the courts and the Supreme Court will decide if he’s able to do that or not. But it’s probably going to take Congress to overdo this. What possible reason other than let me throw a monkey wrench into Donald Trump’s agenda. You know something? Joe Biden’s handlers who made this decision. It’s not Joe Biden. He’s napping. No. Joe Biden’s handlers, the Democrats. You know what, Joe? Yes. Their whole thing is we don’t want Trump to be successful. They don’t want Trump to come in office and see gas prices start coming down. Of course not. And see people’s utility bills start coming down because you know what? That’s going to prove to everybody. What do you know? Our policies were wrong. Donald Trump’s policies are right. So they’re trying to stop Trump from bringing down the cost of energy in this country. And you know, John, who that hurts more than anybody else? The poor. Does the left care?
SPEAKER 02 :
That’s right. It’s sabotage, Bob, is what it is at the end of the day. They’re trying to sabotage the next presidency. And to your point, this doesn’t hurt the wealthy. It doesn’t hurt the person that can afford $4 a gallon gasoline. By the way, it doesn’t even affect most small business owners because they pass those costs on to their customers. Who this really affects at the end of the day is the person struggling to make ends meet. Absolutely. Which, by the way, all we hear from the left is that’s the crowd they care about. Nothing could be farther from the truth, like I’ve always said.
SPEAKER 04 :
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SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, and I hope that the American people come to see it as that, because that’s exactly what it is. There’s a bit of retribution added in here as well. I think this is sour grapes. It’s flip over the chessboard and walk out of the room, take your toys and go home kind of thing. I think Joe Biden is angry about how things have transpired, and And there’s absolutely no sense in what he’s doing. By the way, aren’t we like the largest producer of oil and gas on the planet anyway? I mean, we’re not far away from what would be considered total energy independence. So it isn’t like we’re going to go out and just start drilling everywhere. By the way, apparently there’s a group of people, even conservatives, that are out of Florida pretty much. that don’t want oil wells off their beaches in Florida. I get that. But the point is, it’s not really great business to go start drilling for additional oil if there’s nobody to sell it to. In other words, if we’re manufacturing enough to sell to other people and we’re profitable, then let’s not make it unprofitable. So there’s maybe some of those economic things that also weigh into this. But the bottom line is, he’s just trying to throw a monkey wrench into the Trump agenda in general. And you’re both 100 percent right that the people that are going to suffer in this are the poor and the ones who need help the most. So remember that, ladies and gentlemen, because this is what your Democrat Party is doing for you right now. They have no concern for you. They only have concern for potentially getting elected in the future by trying to stand in the way of the Trump agenda.
SPEAKER 04 :
You know, John, what really makes my eye twitch is there’s an estimated $50 trillion in natural resources that’s on our property. Yep. $50 trillion. And we’re not going to tap into it. If you ask people, hey, where’s all the oil and gas in the world? People, oh, let’s see, Saudi Arabia, Venezuela. We have more, actually. Did you know the United States has more than any nation in the world? That’s right. And we’re just letting it gather dust because we’re kowtowing to AOC and the Green New Deal people?
SPEAKER 02 :
It shows you how, in my opinion, the Lord blessed this continent and why I think our nation built on Judeo-Christian principles 250 years ago. Reality is we’re a very rich country in regards to our natural resources, and yet Bob and Neil— we’re not tapping into those. One of the things I’ve always said, you want to pay off the national debt, sell natural resources. It’s one of the, I mean, number one, balance of budget, stop spending. But number two, if you really want to get the debt down, start selling off some of our natural resources. We have plenty there, but yet we don’t tap into them.
SPEAKER 03 :
Will Trump be able to turn this around with the help of Congress?
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, and keep in mind, too, guys, there’s lots of – I read a lot about this over the last few days. There’s a lot of talk even on what Joe Biden is doing that it’s a lot of posturing and positioning and messaging and so on, and I still think it’s trying to sabotage the next administration. But in a lot of these areas that he’s actually going to put the ban on, it’s not cost-effective at this point to even explore – those areas because we have so many other areas, Bob, back to your point of where we already know there’s oil there that we can actually go and tap into that at the end of the day, does this really affect the price of oil? The message does, but the actual physical part of it, probably not.
SPEAKER 04 :
That’s right. Let’s in our last few minutes, let’s talk about January 6th. OK, no real surprise that the media hyper focused on the four year anniversary of January 6th. And, you know, Democrats and liberals in general, they are masters at this of taking something and. And exaggerating it beyond what it actually truly is. Nobody’s saying we should take January 6th from four years ago and minimize it to the level of a speeding ticket. No. But you can’t maximize it to the level of a date that will live in infamy. You know, you had Sonny Hostin on The View earlier this week. actually comparing january 6th to world war ii the holocaust and slavery so the gassing of six million jews is analogous to a couple of hundred john knuckleheads okay climbing the walls pushing their way past police that didn’t kill a single person didn’t shoot a single person didn’t point a gun at a single person didn’t set a single fire they were wrong nobody’s defending them okay but But my goodness, to compare that to the Holocaust, for Joe Biden and the Democrats to be saying that this is the biggest threat on our democracy since the Civil War. Really? So bigger than 9-11, bigger than Pearl Harbor, bigger than the Nazis, bigger than World War II, World War I, bigger than the wars, bigger than the war on terror, bigger than all of that is January 6th when the Black Lives Matter riots were… 50 times more violent and actually really were deadly riots. So to me, John, it just it drives me crazy how the left does this. And I’m going to make a prediction, John. I’d love to get your take on this. I predict that the next time Democrats are in control of Congress and the White House, next time they run the table. I predict that, number one, we will have a new national holiday that will be a National Day of Remembrance of January 6th. And number two, they’ll spend millions and millions and millions of taxpayer dollars to create a Washington, D.C. memorial for January 6th, right up there with the World War II memorial and everything else. I think that’s what they’re going to do because they take the one opportunity where conservatives behaved badly, and let’s exploit the daylights out of that.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, and again, we’ve talked about this many, many times. I don’t spend a lot of time on my show on it because, frankly, like you say, Bob, I look at it as individuals that did some things on the day that things were very heightened, and I get all of that. If I had been there that day, would I have entered the Capitol? No. I can tell you guys with a resounding no. That would not have been me, period. Now, some might criticize me saying, well, you know, you’re just weak, John. And, you know, you don’t want to stand up for your values and so on. It’s like, yeah, no, there’s a lot more to it than that. And I want to think reasonably about things. And in that particular situation, no, I would not have entered. Now, some did not criticizing those that did. I think it was a bad decision. On their part, I think they could have thought that out better. And the biggest reason I say that is because, Bob, of all the things that you just said, all that day he did. I can remember my brother and I, it was his birthday on the 6th. He passed a couple of years ago. But on that particular day, we were talking about those things. And the reality is both of us said, this looks really bad for us. So if nothing else, Bob, I wouldn’t have done it just because of the black eye it gives us.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. Well, and, you know, Neil, actually, we’ve got to put into perspective, too. You had about 200 to 300 people that were actually pushing their way past police and climbing the walls. Nobody’s defended them. But the other thousand or so people that went in the Capitol weren’t part of that crowd, didn’t lay a finger on anybody. They thought they were allowed to go in the Capitol. The police had moved the barricades, opened the doors, and people were moseying on in, taking pictures. Just touring. Even talking to police as the surveillance camera shows. So a lot of those people and when you had cops say to them, oh, you need to leave. Oh, OK, sure. And then they turn around and left. They were swept up in the same Department of Justice dragnet of the Biden administration and thrown in jail for that. So those people definitely have to be treated differently than everybody else. But again. You know, Neil, even the ones that that did push their way past police as wrong as they were, did they deserve to go to jail? Yes. Do they deserve 18, 20, 22 year prison terms when the average drug dealer gets two and a half years? I would argue, you know, the average rapist gets seven years in America. You don’t deserve three times what a rapist gets for doing that. So I think Trump ought to pardon all of them. And I think I ought to commute the sentences of anybody that’s in prison right now.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, I got something to say about all this, but just a question. Do you mean pardon everybody? Everyone across the board? No, no, no, no.
SPEAKER 04 :
I’m sorry. I would say anyone who assaulted a police officer, anyone who did that or engaged in actual violence or whatever, no, don’t pardon them. But I think 100% of them should have their sentences commuted because if your average – drug dealer gets 2.4 years in prison, then I think they’ve spent enough time in prison. So commute 100% of the sentences of the people that are still in prison, and everybody else that didn’t lay a hand on anybody, pardon them. Okay.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, thank you. And I would be in agreement on that. But here’s the thing. This is just the way it is. I’m picturing a day in my lifetime when a pastor who was at odds with the head of the deacon board threw the deacon out during the church service. and it was ugly and people were yelling and whatever and i remember that day it lives in infamy in my brain about how churches probably should not function and you know none of us who are true americans even patriots should should be proud of the way things went down on january 6th but bob i would be sick to my stomach If the cost of that long term was that we had some kind of national day of remembrance over all of this, because it was wrong, it shouldn’t have happened, and it was ugly. But, you know, why aren’t we having national day of remembrances for the cities that burned during the BLM riots, right? Like, where are you going to go with this kind of thing? And the dozens killed. Oh, exactly. And how ideologically driven would would that be in light of, you know, the fact that they’re going after this because it was a conservative based kind of response to how people were feeling about what they believed was, you know, a false election. And they were, you know, in disagreement about all that. So. Anyway, but that’s why it’s, in many people’s minds, no one’s ever going to be able to forget because it never happened before. Nobody ever saw that happen. And I think that the Democrats, well, God bless them. I’m glad that there was a peaceful or seemingly a peaceful transfer of power. He’s not been inaugurated yet, but they’re really making a big deal to say, see, look how good we are when we transfer power. Well, okay, that is the way it’s supposed to be. And I think Republicans, to a large degree, regret what happened that day. But, yeah. going overboard to make a national holiday out of it or something. Forget about it. That’s a joke.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. Conservatives riot. That’s like, you know, man bites dog. OK, you’re not used to seeing something like that. Liberals riot. It’s just another Tuesday in America. So, yeah, I’ll tell you what, folks, we ask you and we thank you for not only supporting this podcast. and all your five-star reviews and everything else. But we appreciate you supporting our sponsors as well, like Preborn. And if you haven’t given to Preborn yet, why not kick off 2025 by saving some babies’ lives? Remember, Preborn shows ultrasound images in pro-life centers all across the country. Problem is, we don’t have enough ultrasound images being shown. And so there’s a lot of babies’ lives that can be saved if we will just show more ultrasound images to these moms. And that’s what causes them to choose life more than anything else. So we’re asking you to pay for as many of these as you can. $28 is the average ultrasound expense to stop one abortion, save one baby’s life. So pray about a number of babies’ lives you’ll save. Take $28 times fill in the blank. Whatever that number is, hey, that’s your forever legacy, the amount of abortions that you stopped. Would you consider doing that right now? You know, 100% of what you give to pre-born goes to ultrasounds, not a penny for overhead. And hey, if you can afford to buy an ultrasound machine, they’re 15 grand, what a nice tax write-off for you. How would you like your forever legacy to be, I stopped thousands and thousands of abortions year after year? Whether it’s that or $28 times a certain number, we’re just asking you to give right now. So you can do this online. Go to CrawfordMediaGroup.net and click on Preborn. CrawfordMediaGroup.net, click on Preborn. Or you can give over the phone. They answer the phones 24-7, 833-850-BABY. That’s 833-850-BABY. Just mention National Crawford Roundtable when you call. And we appreciate you supporting our sponsors, especially, you know, not just Preborn, but SunPowerLED and… I’ll tell you what, Neil, that photobiomodulation, it really does work. I know it’s worked on me and you and many people.
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SPEAKER 04 :
Absolutely. Well, I’ll tell you what, we appreciate you folks supporting our sponsors. We appreciate you supporting this podcast. And your five-star reviews will take as many as you’re willing to give us wherever you listen to your podcasts. And Neil Boron, Neil Boron Live out of Buffalo, New York. John Rush, Rush to Reason out of Denver, Colorado. Myself, Bob Duco, The Bob Duco Show out of New York. Detroit. We’re winding down the end of this real quick and just a quick yes or no. John, what do you say? Should Trump commute the sentences of everybody that’s in prison from January 6th and then pardon everybody else who didn’t lay a hand on everybody?
SPEAKER 02 :
With the guidelines you said earlier, yes. I agree.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. I agree. Yeah. All right. Well, you know what? I hope so too. And we’ll see. It is a new day in America and we got the inauguration coming up on the 20th. Anyway, So Neil, John, always great catching up with you guys. Look forward to next week. And everybody, we appreciate you listening to us. Thanks so much. God bless. We’ll see you guys.
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