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In this episode of the National Crawford Roundtable podcast the guys talk about President Trump’s Middle East tour and the growing controversy over accepting a $400-million dollar plane from Qatar. They also discuss the controversy over Trump and GOP Bill “cutting” $800-billion from Medicaid–it’s really making work requirements for able-bodied younger people. What about Trump’s Executive Order to lower drug costs–how do we lower drug prices? The guys also take a look at HHS-RFK, Jr. plan to find the cause of autism–childhood vaccines? Food Additives? 5G or RF stuff? And what about HHS researching the harm caused from transgender
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Another week of the National Crawford Roundtable podcast. Myself, Bob Duco out of Detroit. John Rush, Rush Reason out of Denver, Colorado. Neil Prodigal’s son, Boron, not with us. So we’re hoping to bring him back into the fold next week. John, how are you doing?
SPEAKER 01 :
I’m great, sir. How are you?
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, doing lovely. Thank you. Good to be back from vacation, too. It’s always fun to get off. I was down in Hilton Head Island with some friends sitting on the ocean beach. And you know something, John? Not giving even a fraction of a thought to you and Neil. Hope you guys have fun this week.
SPEAKER 01 :
That’s fine. That’s the way it should be.
SPEAKER 03 :
Tell me about it. Well, I’ll tell you what, this week we’re going to talk about a few different things, really. Number one, Donald Trump’s Middle East tour, his Arab nations tour and what’s happening with that. A little bit later on in the podcast, a little bit about Pete Rose being reinstated posthumously to eligibility for the… Baseball Hall of Fame. Should he have received a lifetime ban all the way to the point of his death? We’ll talk about that. And also some health care stuff, some things that the Trump administration is doing regarding health care. So we got a lot to get to. First, though, the Middle East peace tour that Trump is on. He was in Saudi Arabia earlier this week and signed a really an historic six hundred billion dollar agreement. investments plan for the United States. So he’s over there getting Saudi Arabia to invest a lot of money into the U.S. And also it’s interesting seeing when Trump was getting ready to address the Saudi people, he’s standing up there on the stage. And of course, there’s a big flag on half the stage, a big lighted flag of Saudi Arabia. But the other half the stage was a massive United States flag. And Trump just stood up there while they played God Bless the USA from Lee Greenwood. And it was interesting because even when he’s done, the Saudis are applauding and such. And then he gets up there and he says point blank, you know what, Saudi Arabia needs to be part of the Abraham Accords, you know, striking a peace deal with Israel as well. But he was also diplomatic enough to say, but you know what, you’ll do it in your own time. So he’s showing the diplomacy and the deference to them so it doesn’t look like he’s trying to control them, but at the same time nudging them. John, I’d love to get your take on, first of all, the Saudi Arabian trip. I thought this was Trump really showing good, solid diplomacy on behalf of the United States. And for everybody who says that the man is just a blustering fool who doesn’t know how to be diplomatic, I don’t see how anybody can make that claim after watching how he’s handling this Middle East tour so far.
SPEAKER 01 :
Trump understands how to get deals done and how to make money when it’s all said and done. That’s the one thing that, you know, by the way, he keeps getting criticized by the left, and it’s like, you knuckleheads, you just don’t understand how things work. Well, and again, Bob, we’ve talked about this in the past. That’s why I struggle with Christians that are quote-unquote on the left. It’s like everything that the left stands for is total Marxism. They want to tear the country down. They don’t care if we’re economically viable. They don’t care about these sorts of deals that we’re talking about. In fact, they would just as soon… not see these things happen. At the end of the day, they don’t want our country thriving any way, shape, or form. So anytime things like this happen where he’s over there and he’s being diplomatic and things are rolling along and he’s actually getting deals done, all you hear from the left is, well, yeah, he’s only over there because it benefits his family businesses.
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That’s so ridiculous. Am I right? Yes. You’re absolutely right. And, you know, if you think about this financially, for all the people on the left that are screaming that Donald Trump is just enriching himself as president, Donald Trump, him being president, especially a conservative president, pro-life, pro-evangelical Christian president. This is costing him multiple billions of dollars because Trump properties all around the world, especially here in the United States, had an equal amount of Republican versus Democrat customer base. Okay, he did. And now he’s pretty much… you know, turned off the liberal left-wing intolerant half of America that says, no, we’re not going to spend any money on anything with Trump’s name on it. So this is actually costing him money, but, you know, whatever. That’s right. But you know something else, John, that’s important here? The point that he said to the Saudis about, you know what, you need to be part of these Abraham Accords, and you’ll do it in your time, but this would really benefit your country, our country, the Middle East, this idea of Middle East peace. I’ve said this on the podcast before, John, but I want to get your take on this because it’s something that Donald Trump does not get nearly enough credit for. Every single president since 1948, when Israel became a nation again, every single president has tried to put the feather in their cap of at least one Middle East peace deal. Some Arab Muslim nation signing a peace agreement deal with Israel. Almost every president has come up empty. The only two presidents who have ever been able to make that happen. Jimmy Carter did it once with Egypt, but in all fairness, that was mostly Anwar Sadat back then. But still, he goes in a history book, says he got one Middle East peace deal. OK, fine. The other one was Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton did get Jordan. All right. And Jordan is a really small country and they’re moderate and they’re friends with the U.S. anyway. And so it’s a but still he got one. He deserves to be in the history books for that. Ronald Reagan in eight years could not get one. George W. Bush in eight years could not get one. Barack Obama in eight years could not get one. I mean, no president’s been able to get one except those two. Donald Trump in his first four years got four. He got four Middle East peace deals, United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, Morocco and Sudan. And now he’s working on Saudi Arabia and maybe two or three more. I got to tell you, John, if this were anybody other than Donald Trump, everybody would be it’d be like, let’s start talking about Mount Rushmore now. Let’s start talking about Nobel Peace Prizes and such, because it’s Donald Trump. The mainstream press pretty much ignores it.
SPEAKER 01 :
That’s exactly right. And he did a lot of these same things during his first term as president as well. Remember some of the things that he did back then? You know, you’ve just mentioned some of those. But for all of those that think that he’s over there just benefiting his own businesses, no, that is not the case at all. He’s over there trying to get peace. I mean, we’ve said it many, many times on this podcast, Bob. He’s the only president that gets us out of wars, not into wars. Every other president, in my opinion, is more of a warmonger than they are anything else. And they’d rather start one than finish one. I mean, even even look what what Trump has done recently between, you know, Pakistan and India as far as, you know, getting them to settle down. I mean, the reality is he goes around and tries to get things settled down and handled. And here’s why, by the way, for everybody that. that maybe doesn’t understand this. There’s that school of thought. It’s an old school of thought, by the way. It comes out of World War II, where wars generate revenue and income for countries. It’s not true anymore, Bob. It used to be that way. It used to be good for a country to have a war. It was an economic stimulator and so on. It’s not the case anymore. And Donald Trump knows that. He knows that at the end of the day, wars are expensive. They’re costly. They don’t help your GDP at the end of the day. And when it’s all said and done, you don’t need them. You need peace. He understands that more than anybody else. And that’s exactly what he goes around doing and gets no credit for it.
SPEAKER 03 :
I know. And you bring up a very good point about Pakistan and India. I was talking about that on my show as well. Yeah, they were on the brink of a full-fledged war. I mean, this got to the point where they were launching missiles at each other’s military bases. That’s right. And Pakistan and India, people forget, they’re both nuclear powers. They both have nuclear bombs. The last thing we want in the world right now are two nuclear nations going at war with each other. And by the way, big nations, India with over a billion people. Okay, so… This is really huge. And what happens? The Trump administration swoops in and in less than 24 hours negotiates, brokers and negotiates between the two of them a ceasefire and an agreement for peace talks. I mean, that is incredible. I’m telling you, anybody other than Trump, John, I’m telling you, this would be Nobel Peace Prize talk. With Trump, it’s just a byline.
SPEAKER 01 :
It would still would be right now, Bob. And unfortunately, even the major networks, you know, there’s a little blurb here or there, and that was about it.
SPEAKER 03 :
I know. It’s really sad. Now, I want to talk with you about his trip to, technically it’s pronounced Qatar. Qatar. I call it either Qatar or Qatar. But he’s in Qatar today, Wednesday, as we’re recording this. But then there’s the controversy surrounding the plane. Is he wrong to take the plane? We’re going to talk about that coming up in just a minute. But first, John, we do want our listeners to support the sponsors, the advertisers to this podcast.
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What’s that old saying, keep your friends close and your enemies closer? Not saying Qatar is an enemy by any stretch of the imagination because they’re not technically an enemy of the United States. They’re not listed as such. I agree with you, Bob, on the way you describe them. But you have to wonder, is keeping them a little bit closer and keeping them in your back pocket? And, oh, by the way, there was a minute ago a post went out talking about how he just secured a deal where they’re buying 160 airplanes from Boeing. So, in other words, he’s over there doing business for the U.S.,
SPEAKER 03 :
Right, right. And that ought to be considered a good thing. And you know what? Look, if we can get a nation like that, Qatar is a nation that really could go in either direction. They could get pulled more into the Islamic jihadi part of the Middle East, but they could also get pulled more into the moderate Saudi Arabia strike deals with the U.S. type.
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And by the way, Bob, the cash is what does that.
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I know it is. And so here’s a chance for Trump to steer the ship with the rudder, to steer the ship in the direction of peace, while at the same time getting them to spend hundreds of millions of dollars in the U.S. To me, this is the ultimate in dealmaking. It is. But that brings us to the plane. Of course, the Democrats and the media are acting like Trump is violating the emoluments clause of the Constitution because he’s accepting gifts. How can he do such a thing? And you even have some Republicans going, oh, the optics of it looks bad. Don’t do it. Why? For the life of me, I don’t understand what the problem is.
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Saves us money. Why would we not?
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It’s a personal gift.
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It’s not a personal gift. It’ll go to the DOD. It’ll be a replacement. Keep in mind, part of this is coming up because of Boeing’s, which I don’t know what those knuckleheads are doing. They’re late. Huge delay when it comes to the new Air Force One jets that were ordered, I believe, in 2018 by Donald Trump back during his first term. Reality is they’re still not built today. I think I read today, Bob, I don’t think they’re scheduled to be built until 2028 or 2029, something like that. So still a ways down the road. So this is a stop gap, if you would. And people think for a second, well, why do we need, you know, new Air Force Ones? Bob, you and I both know that those planes don’t last forever. They put on a gazillion miles on an annual basis. Look at all the places that all of the presidents go, all of the different things they have to do touring other countries. Trump, by the way, is one of the few presidents that probably has toured. I think I was looking up a moment ago. He tours more countries than any other president has as far as that goes as well. And it’s not an apology tour that he’s on, Bob. It’s a deal-making tour. But the reality is those planes don’t last forever. Yes, they have to be replaced. Boeing can’t supply that right now. I don’t want to say that we’re caught between a rock and a hard spot, but when somebody’s gifting you a $400 million plane that is a nice stopgap for what I’m talking about, why would you say no?
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Exactly. And the important thing is here, because I know people hear the thing about the Constitution, presidents accepting gifts. The emoluments clause was specifically about presidents of the United States that were accepting personal gifts, enriching themselves, taking stuff and putting it in their own pockets to basically do quid pro quos with other nations on behalf of themselves personally. Everybody understands that would be wrong to do. Trump hasn’t done anything even remotely close to that. As far as business dealings that his kids have made with Saudi Arabia and other nations, we’ve got to remember – and you know this, John, as a businessman, OK? Trump – He owns over 500 corporations in nations all around the world. His kids are running the company right now. And so what they do is, of course, they strike deals with countries all over the world. They’ve been doing this for decades. The difference is Trump doesn’t have his hands on that. He’s trusting his kids to do that. Every single deal making that he’s doing, none of it has anything to do with benefiting Trump organization. It has to do with benefiting America and the American worker. And I think we ought to applaud that.
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I agree. And people forget, too, that when, and I don’t want to say that his name is tarnished, you know, his family name is tarnished in America, but believe it or not, his name around the world in some cases brings in more business than it does in the U.S. So the reality, Bob, is the left has created some of what’s happening worldwide when it comes to the Trump businesses because of what I just said.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, absolutely. So far, I would say this has proven to be a very successful tour on his part. And I’m glad to see that he’s doing this, and it’s on behalf of America.
SPEAKER 01 :
Really quick, too, Bob, I want to add one other thing, too, because there’s been some news, and I think the left is playing into this, like the left really cares about Israel. There’s been some comments made by a lot of folks in the mass media talking about, well, isn’t this kind of sliding Israel because he’s not going over there first? He’s actually going to Saudi Arabia first. I’m thinking to myself, how many dealings and things has he actually done? with Israel, not just now, but over the years. There’s no way anybody in Israel is being slighted, but that’s what the left does, Bob.
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I’ll tell you what, if Donald Trump is meeting with people that are typically enemies of Israel, and everybody knows that Donald Trump is a huge friend of Israel, this is a benefit to Israel. This cools tensions between Middle Eastern nations and Israel. Anybody who looks at this logically realizes it. Those that are saying, oh, he’s a slap in the face to Israel here, and he’s creating a rift between him and Netanyahu and whatever. No, he’s not. He’s easing tensions between Israel and other hostile Arab nations in the Middle East.
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These are the same people that will be on college campuses with their anti-Semitism as well, Bob. So keep in mind, those are the same people spewing that garbage out.
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Even Bill Maher is saying, come on, Democrat Party, knock it off with the anti-Semitic rhetoric and such. Okay. Let’s shift to some other things going on. John, I was talking about the media and how dishonest they are in their reporting. This is something that makes my eye twitch large. Medicaid. Medicaid. How many headlines are we seeing over and over again that Donald Trump and the Republicans and their spending bill are slashing Medicaid, you know, $800 billion cuts to Medicaid? When your average person sees those headlines, the first thing that they think is, wow, so some poor grandma that’s low income is going to have her Medicaid payments reduced or whatever. No. All Trump is doing and the Republicans are doing here is saying this, and this is where it’s important, John, for people to get the facts in this, all right? People that are senior citizens, people 65 and older that are on Medicaid right now, they are not having a dime of proposed reduction whatsoever. People that are disabled or handicapped or unable to work. There are no proposals for even a dime of reduction. Actually, the proposals involve increases to all of those people. All Trump is saying is if you’re between the ages of 19 and 64 and you’re able bodied, healthy and able to go get a job. But you refuse to. You prefer to sit at home and play video games on your mom’s couch and you won’t go get a job. Then no, you don’t get to go to the hospital and then have the government, the taxpayers, pay your medical bills. OK, you’ve got to pay your own. So get off your butt. Go get a job. You can get health care through your employer. And you know what’s even worse about this, John, that the press isn’t telling people? Do you know that the GOP bill here? actually says, number one, if you’re pregnant, you have an exemption. You don’t even have to go get a job if you’re pregnant. You can go ahead and enjoy Medicaid if you’re low income. And number two, if you get off your butt and go get a job, it doesn’t even have to be a full-time job. It only has to be a job where you work 80 hours a month, which is about 18 to 19 hours a week. That’s a part-time job. So you go out and work part-time 18 hours a week, You can play video games on your mom’s couch and still collect Medicaid. That’s how generous, that’s how liberal Trump and the Republicans are being in this case. Yet we’re being told he’s taking Medicare away from senior citizens. What a bunch of liars and the corrupt.
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You’re right. No, it is. Absolutely, Bob. And the reality is… And it’s just, A, we’ve got to cut costs. We’re approaching $38 trillion now as a country in debt. We’re not cutting enough quickly enough, and we’ve got to do these sorts of things. And I know it’s a taboo to even talk about Social Security, but other areas where we’ve got to really start looking at things and making some adjustments. Otherwise, we’re not going to make it. I mean, all these people that are whining about it. They may be whining today, but down the road when there’s no money left and we’re in really, really bad shape and there is hyperinflation because of the injection of cash that has to happen in the economy to make things work at that point in time, they’ll be looking back thinking, oh, I guess those guys weren’t so wrong after all, but It’s painful, Bob, for some of these people. Yeah. You got to get off the couch and go get a job. Yeah. That means you got to go to work. All right. Sorry.
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And that’s supposed to be a good thing in this country. But I honestly, we made it the opposite, though.
SPEAKER 01 :
You know, we’re becoming, you know, France and Spain to where, you know, Spain just wants to reduce their 40 hour a week to like 37 hours or some dumb thing along those lines. We’re becoming a nation where it’s. It’s soft and it’s no longer a you know, when I was a kid growing up, it was a matter of pride to have a good, solid job. In some cases, even, you know, two jobs have something to show for what your efforts were and so on. We’ve gone completely the opposite, which, by the way, Bob, that goes back to my comment earlier about the whole Marxist movement. That’s it in a nutshell. You don’t want any fruits of your labor when it’s all said and done in Marxism.
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That’s right. So, yeah, keep in mind, folks, whenever you see these headlines, these news stories, these Democrats and their rhetoric, OK, slashing Medicaid, cutting Medicaid. It’s a good thing to find seven or eight hundred billion dollars in waste, a million rather, in waste. Because you know what that does? That makes Medicaid more solvent. It makes it stronger financially for the people who actually really do need it. If you’re a 25-year-old lazy person playing video games on your mom’s couch, you don’t need Medicaid. You need to go get a job. And you don’t need to have your neighbor paying your hospital bill if you have to go to the doctor and you are too lazy to go get a job and get insurance through an employer. So come on, give me a break. Anyway, we’ve got a lot more that we’re going to be talking about in the second half of this podcast, some other health care issues in the administration, as well as Pete Rose. And posthumously, now he’s allowed to go back into the Major League Baseball Hall of Fame, or go into it, rather. So we’ll talk about that as well. We also, John, we want people to support our sponsors like Preborn, like SunPower LED, which just does tremendous work with our photobiomodulation.
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SPEAKER 01 :
That’s right, and I’ll get to the bottom of it. This is a subject, Bob, by the way, that I have… Oh, man, I’ve done countless interviews on my program over the years on this, and I like you. I don’t think there’s one individual thing that you can point to when it comes to autism. I think it’s a combination of things. I think it’s environmental as far as the differences in foods that kids are eating today versus what you and I grew up with, for example, a lot of the preservatives and things that are in it, fast food, some of those things, for example. There’s a lot of things that kids are eating today that you and I didn’t have access to. I mean, you and I probably had and we’re fairly similar in age. We probably had anywhere from five to seven vaccines where if you give a kid today all of the vaccines, I think the number, Bob, is like 72. It’s absolutely ridiculous what we’re doing along those lines. And I get not everybody does that with their kids. But if you follow the entire structure of what they lay out, it’s huge. And a lot of people do, by the way. They believe in that. So they do that. And. I just think, you know, between all the things that we’re talking about, I’m not I’m not sold on the whole, you know, 5G and that end of things, because frankly, autism started to increase long before we even had, you know, some of the cell service and things that we’ve even got today along those lines. So I’m not one to go down that path. But I do think the environmental end of things, the food intake, the vaccines themselves that a lot of kids are getting. And then keep in mind, too, the way that even maybe mom is functioning prior to birth and some of the things that she’s ingesting and doing. A lot of that, Bob, is different across the board. And that’s something else, frankly, that never really gets talked about is the moms themselves. What are moms doing with baby in the womb? Kind of going back to the whole preborn thing, by the way, because. It is a life in the womb. It’s affected by what mom’s doing, what she’s eating, what she’s drinking, what she’s smoking and so on. So at the end of the day, Bob, yes, that is a living being inside of the womb, not to steal any of your thunder. But the left wants to tell you that’s just a bunch of tissue in there. It’s not.
SPEAKER 03 :
You’re absolutely right. It’s not. And I want to talk about the childhood vaccines, though, part of this. I’m not saying and I have never claimed that I know for a fact that childhood vaccines are causing autism. In fact, I don’t know that for a fact, but I think I have a legitimate reason to be suspicious of that. My wife and I, we never had our kids. We had seven kids. We didn’t have them vaccinated. OK, we just didn’t. It’s like I didn’t want to take the chance in this. And I’m going to share with you, John, if you’ll bear with me, indulge me a little bit here. I want to share with you a little anecdote of what happened with one of my sons when he was born. My youngest son, actually, when he was born. So the pediatrician came in the room with this clipboard and was like, okay, well, we’d like to schedule the hepatitis B shot, the MMR shots, the polio shots, whatever, for my newborn son. I said, no, I’m opting out. And he started trying to debate me on this, right? And he says, well, hepatitis B. I said, well, hold on a second. Hepatitis B, I can tell you right now, my wife is not a drug addict. So that’s not an issue. And secondly, I’m going to go out on a limb and say my newborn son is not sexually active. So the answer is no. So he starts talking about the other vaccines. He says, well, aren’t you concerned about your son getting polio? And I said, aren’t you concerned about my son developing autism? He said, well, there’s no conclusive proof that’s shown that these cause autism. I said, that’s right. I said, but there is also no alternative explanation for how we’ve gone in the last few decades from just a handful of vaccines to several dozen vaccines. And at the same time, autism rates have gone from one in 10,000 to one in, then it was 150 when I said that. Now it’s one in 49. I said, can you give me an alternate explanation as to why that is? And he’s like, well, we have been doing a better job of identifying certain parts of the autism spectrum. I said, you know what? That could explain maybe going from 1 in 10,000 to 1 in 5,000, but not 1 in 10,000 to 49. So can you give me an alternate explanation? And he says, well, what if your child got polio? And I said, how many cases of polio? I said, you’re a pediatrician. How many cases of polio do you know of right now in southeast Michigan? Hmm. And he said, well, I remember there was a case in Royal Oak, a suburb of Detroit, a couple of years ago. I said, think about what you just said. You thought of one case a couple of years ago. I said, now, how many cases of autism exist in your own neighborhood? You know, when I went to high school, you could have seven, eight hundred kids in a school and you might have one autistic kid in the entire school. Now you don’t have a classroom without an autistic kid in it. So don’t tell me that I don’t have at least reason to be concerned. And so he said, OK, I’ll write up, check off that you’re declining. And he gave up after about 10 minutes. Right. But he smiled when he said it, John. And I said, I don’t get it. Is something funny? He goes, no. He said, I just said I was standing outside the door looking at the chart before coming in. And I hesitated a minute coming in because I saw the chart and I saw your name and I know who you are. And I thought, oh, boy, I’m going to have my hands full here. I said, well, so we had a nice laugh about it. We shook hands. I know. But you know what, though? Unless you can give me an alternate theory, then I’m going to be suspicious. And so all the pro-vaccine people, the hyper-pro-vaccine people, they ought to be welcoming HHS getting to the bottom of this because if it’s not vaccines, then maybe this can prove it once and for all. But if it is, don’t we want to know?
SPEAKER 01 :
That’s right. And again, Bob, I’m one where I believe it’s a And I could be wrong. You pull back the veil, really start digging into it, try to figure out exactly what’s going on. Maybe it is just one thing. And if it is great, that’s pretty easy to fix when it’s all said and done. Stop doing that.
SPEAKER 03 :
Or one of a few.
SPEAKER 01 :
Just let me know what they are. Exactly. So what are they? And is it one thing? Is it a combination of things? I mean, again, there’s so many things that are different today than when you and I were kids. And to your point, and you’re right. There just wasn’t many cases of it when you and I were kids versus what we see today. So something’s changed. Right.
SPEAKER 03 :
There is something, as the old saying goes, there’s something in the water. Whatever it is, I don’t know what it is. I just I want to know. OK, we ought to care about that. And the press and the Democrats and everybody else is, you know, all the children. OK, well, then you ought to say, let’s follow the facts wherever they lead.
SPEAKER 01 :
But, you know, the other argument against this, too, Bob, that I’ve heard of late, which I’ll make sure I handle this delicately as well. You know, what’s wrong with an autistic kid? And and, you know, we’re taking away some of the joy that those families get from those particular individuals because they look at life a lot differently than anybody else. So why would we want to take that joy away from them? Bob, I have the same joy for my own kids that aren’t autistic, so that’s a really, really lame excuse when it’s all said and done. It is extremely lame. Any time that you can let somebody live a more fulfilled life and be quote-unquote normal, and I know this is going to probably go down a path that I might even get some hate mail back on, but the reality is, and I’ve got a good friend of mine that has a very autistic child, one that will live with him until he dies because he just doesn’t have the ability to function on his own. And I can tell you right now that he would prefer his son to be like mine. I’ll tell you that straight up. Of course.
SPEAKER 03 :
Of course. I mean, first of all, we’ve got to remember something. Ever since the Garden of Eden, every single human being is, quote unquote, defective in one way or another. Our bodies aren’t supposed to die in the first place. Very true. But do autistic kids have value made in the image and likeness of God? Of course they do. Just like Down syndrome children are made in the image and likeness of God. But you know what? We’ve got a sick society that says, hey, if we can find out there’s a defect while in the womb, let’s kill that child. So that’s really where we ought to go here with this is if you’re saying, well, hey, Autistic, you know, we need to see the value in autistic kids, down-tender kids. I agree with you. You know what that means? Let them live inside the womb, okay? Which brings me to pre-born, of course, because pre-born is a great way to save babies’ lives. You know how common it is? for our society to say to a woman, get amniocentesis. If we can find out that your child has Down syndrome or some other kind of quote unquote genetic defect, hey, we’re going to push an abortion on you now. And then that way that child won’t have to experience all of that issue growing up. That makes about as much logical sense as looking at a five-year-old kid that has a, quote, genetic defect and saying, well, then let’s just legalize killing that child so they don’t have to grow up and deal with it. No. These kids need to be protected. Their lives need to be saved. And the best way to do this, show that mom an ultrasound image of her baby. She’s not going to go across the street to Planned Parenthood. She lets her baby live, okay? She usually accepts Jesus Christ as Savior, too. Pre-born shows these ultrasound images. So what we’re asking you folks to do is to pay for these ultrasound images. $28 is the average ultrasound expense to save one baby’s life. How many babies’ lives will you save? Take $28 times fill in the blank. Pray about a number, and then that’s your gift to pre-born. And if you can buy an ultrasound machine, they’re 15 grand apiece. Your forever legacy is you’re saving thousands and thousands of babies’ lives. Nice tax write-off for you, too. But anything that you give to Preborn goes to ultrasounds, not a penny for overhead. That’s all covered by private donors. So here’s how you give. Go to CrawfordMediaGroup.net. Click on Preborn. CrawfordMediaGroup.net. Click on Preborn. You can give right there. Or you can give over the phone, 833-850-BABY. That’s 833-850-BABY. Just mention National Crawford Roundtable when you call. We appreciate you folks supporting Preborn. We appreciate you folks supporting SunPowerLED and this photobiomodulation. I mean, this is red light therapy. This isn’t the cheap topical stuff that people advertise out there, John. This is like the real deal getting down to the cellular level.
SPEAKER 01 :
Yeah, and we don’t talk about that enough because the way this is designed, patented, by the way, it’s doing things that you literally are not going to find in other regular handheld devices that you can buy online, you can buy on Amazon, and so on, Bob. This is high-end. I’ve got a doctor that’s actually a sponsor of my daily program, and he’s got a huge red light therapy bed, much like the one that you see at SunPower LED, and it’s not $1,000. Let’s just say that, Bob. It’s very expensive. Sure. As I was talking to him, he was describing, you know, the power, the range, all these different things that it has to be to actually be effective. And that’s exactly what you’re getting at SunPowerLED, other than instead of having to buy that really expensive bed in this particular case, which he’s actually got for sale on SunPowerLED, you can put it in the palm of your hand and do things with it in a more directional way if you’d like. Say you’ve got some hand pain or shoulder pain or back pain or anything along those lines. You’ve heard Neil talk about how it helped him with recovering from COVID. The reality is these are devices that literally can help you heal in a natural way, no drugs. And by the way, it’s why you’re not hearing a lot of folks And the medical community pushed this because they don’t get to sell drugs if you use this particular therapy. So go to CrawfordMediaGroup.net, look for SunPowerLED, and buy a device today.
SPEAKER 03 :
Absolutely. So as we continue talking about… what’s going on with health care and such. So we talked about the childhood vaccines and autism and getting to the bottom of it. I think that’s a really good thing to do. I’m curious, John, to get your take on the issue of drug prices. As you know, we pay ridiculously high prices for pharmaceutical drugs here in America, where, as Trump is pointing out, you can have the very same pill manufactured by the very same company in the very same laboratory, and it costs three, four, five times more here in the United States than it does in other countries around the world. Donald Trump signed a most favored nation status for drug companies here in America so that you don’t have drugs that are marked up in price to the U.S. One of the things that they’re doing is, I hate to say it, but the pharmaceutical industry, they say, well, We’re going to go ahead and sell these drugs at a cheaper cost to other countries. And in doing so, we’ve got to make up our losses somewhere. So we’re going to three, four, five times Keystone in the U.S. just to make up for that. And Trump was like, no, it’s not going to work that way. Yeah, I know. And it’s like, no, that’s exactly what they’re doing there. Yes, they’re price gouging for all the Democrats who care about price gouging. They’re price gouging the American consumer to subsidize their discounted prices around the rest of the world. And Trump is saying enough is enough. No more.
SPEAKER 01 :
Yeah, what people don’t understand, and let me make sure I’m very clear on this. We, as a country, you, as a buyer of drugs, have been supplementing other countries and the development of new drugs for even other countries that get the benefit of your paying for that. And I had a guest on yesterday. We were talking about this, Bob. And what I basically said was, you know what? It’s about stinking time. that as we go around the world, which is what Trump’s doing even in regards to tariffs and so on, and I’m sorry, there’s a lot of countries out there that are very thin-skinned along these lines, but what I’m tired of, Bob, is having to run around the world and apologize for some of the things that people don’t like about America. I want the opposite. I want to thank you from other countries for the things that we have done for them, like prescription drugs you’re talking about right now. The reality is we do more for the rest of the world than any other country, and most of the time all we get is a poke in the eye when it’s all said and done. I want to thank you moving forward.
SPEAKER 03 :
That’s right. And by the way, the American not only the American consumer, but certainly the American worker and the American manufacturing worker, the American farmer. They need to be thanking Donald Trump right now for these new trade deals that he’s managed to negotiate with, for example, the U.K., The U.K. is now opening up their markets to U.S. farming products in a way that it wasn’t opened up before. So the U.S. farmer benefits, the U.S. taxpayer benefits, because now we don’t have to subsidize that farmer as much when he’s able to sell his goods over in the U.K. Trump is getting renegotiated deals as well with China and India as well. And so this is going to benefit the U.S. worker, I think, in a powerful way with these new trade deals. But as far as drug costs go, so, John, what happens then if the pharmaceutical companies, they say, no, we’re not going to do this. We’re still going to continue marking up our prices to the U.S.? It seems like maybe this is an area where the competition comes in, the transparency in pricing and competition plays in so that – So personally, I’d like to see the free market force the pharmaceutical companies to have to be more marketable in their prices, more competitive in their prices.
SPEAKER 01 :
Well, keep in mind, too, one thing we haven’t talked about that this act also has an effect on is the PBMs, the middleman when it comes to all of the drug end of things that, by the way, they are making, in my opinion, and you know me. I’m a free market guy, Bob. I’m a business owner. I think you ought to be able to charge whatever the market will bear. The problem is, in that world, it’s not really what the market bears. It’s what we can, through our cartel, and I’m being literal when I say that, through our cartel setup. So in other words, all PBMs, it’s price fixing when it’s all said and done, Bob. There’s no competition there, and some of these PBMs are making 1,000% on these drugs that they’re actually getting from the pharmacy or from the pharmaceutical company and then passing on into the end pharmacy, if you would, or the hospital or whatever it happens to be. The reality is those are the guys that are making bank. They’re making as much in some cases as what a lot of other organizations are making across the country. That part of it also needs fixed, Bob, because that’s jacking the prices of drugs up as well. That is so true.
SPEAKER 03 :
So true. All right. Let’s, in our last few minutes here, let’s talk some sports. Okay. Okay. Pete Rose. Pete Rose is the all-time hits leader in baseball. He’s an automatic runner. Hall of Famer. But Pete Rose and Pete Rose, Pete Rose is very much on my radar screen growing up because with the Cincinnati Reds, the red machine, I grew up in Columbus, Ohio, and we didn’t have an MLB team in Columbus. So we all kind of grafted into the Cincinnati Reds. So I grew up in the days of Johnny Bench and Pete Rose and all that kind of stuff. Pete Rose was a phenomenal, phenomenal player known for his uh… head first uh… slides into bases instead of feed first but he was johnnie hustle and the guy all-time hits leader but he had a gambling problem and this was wrong and i’m not justifying or defending and he had a gambling problem and one of the rules in baseball is that you’re not allowed to gamble on your team. You’re not allowed to bet on your team. He never bet against his own team. He always bet for his team to win, but it still feeds the corruption of the game. I get that. And so that’s why when he retired, he received a ban from the Hall of Fame. Okay, fine. Give him a punishment. But to make it a lifetime ban? Now, the guy died just a few months ago at 83 years old, never getting to enjoy the fruits of his labor. To me, John, maybe it’s just the Christian in me who thinks of forgiveness and redemption. But to me, that’s disproportionate punishment that Pete Rose had to experience, especially when you see the level of corruption that exists in so much of sports, including baseball. Put Shoeless Joe Jackson in the Hall of Fame. Put Pete Rose in the Hall of Fame. So I’m glad they’re finally doing it, but in my opinion, too late.
SPEAKER 01 :
Yeah, it’s too little, too late. I agree with you. And I always thought, even as a kid, and looking at all of that, and like you, we didn’t have a pro team here in Denver, so you sort of latched on to some other teams. And I was always a fan of Pete Rose. I just thought that, to your point, he was a hustler. He did a lot of things that nobody else did. did. And when that came down, it was sort of like, okay, so we’re going to negate everything he did even prior to those events, like you not saying those are right, very wrong in what he’s doing. I’m not a gambling person, period. Anyways, Bob, I have my own thoughts on that, that we probably do a podcast on at some point in time, but I’m not a gambler. I just, I just don’t think that’s the, you know, personally don’t think that’s the right way to try to get ahead. I know a lot of people would disagree with me on that, even Christians, but that’s just my my take so i’m not a gambler um you know you do whatever you want to do at the end of the day but it’s not for me and and i definitely don’t think people that are in that particular event per se i don’t care what it is i don’t care whether we’re talking football baseball basketball we go down the line horse racing on down the line we go i don’t think you should be able to to bet and be involved in that particular play At the same time, on the same token, all of the accomplishments that Pete Rose did prior to that should be acknowledged and frankly should have been acknowledged before he passed.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay, now, let me play, pardon the term, devil’s advocate for a moment, because I agree with everything that you said, but I want to play a devil’s advocate thing with you here. Aren’t we, theoretically, as conservatives and Christians, aren’t we law and order people that say, hey, nobody’s above the law, and if you’re not above the law, then you’re also not above the rules when it comes to sports, and if he violated rules that you’re not allowed to do and feeds the corruption machine in sports… Do we want the Menendez brothers getting out after shotgunning their parents? Well, yeah, but no, they spend life in prison. And so in the same way, a lifetime ban, if you feed the corruption machine in sports, it’s a lifetime ban. Lifetime ban means lifetime ban. Just because he’s Pete Rose and he’s popular and he Charlie Hustles doesn’t mean that he’s above the rules, just like the Biden should not be above the law. Devil’s advocate, how do you respond?
SPEAKER 01 :
I guess my response would be, fine, then make that consistent across the board because you haven’t done that with a lot of other players that did things worse than Pete Rose did.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah. Well, look, I think that’s a fair point, too.
SPEAKER 01 :
That’s my comeback. Because it’s not consistent, Bob, as you know. They had a vendetta against Pete.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah. I mean, they really did, which part of the problem here, I think, is that Pete Rose was so outspoken and defiant and kind of hardheaded in some areas.
SPEAKER 01 :
He was not going to bow to the MLB. Let’s just say that.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. Right. He didn’t do that. And so they said, fine. And they had kind of a Mexican standoff with each other. And I just I think it was petty on the part of the MLB. Shoeless Joe Jackson. I mean, my good. We’re going back over 100 years now, aren’t we? Yeah. For Joe Jackson? Yeah.
SPEAKER 01 :
Yeah. What’s the Field of Dreams? That’s what the movie’s about, basically, with Shoeless Joe?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, I know. So, my goodness. Well, anyway, I’m glad to see that he’s being eligible now for the Hall of Fame. He should have been put in it by now. I just feel really bad that the guy had to go to his deathbed and not experience a Hall of Fame.
SPEAKER 01 :
Well, and one other thing that I would throw into that too, Bob, is all of these guys, Pete included, has families and relatives and so on that are affected by all of what you said as well. And again, I guess, you know, what’s your comeback on the whole law and order thing and so on? I get it. And I get there’s supposed to be consequences for things. And no, we don’t want professional players gambling, especially on their own games. I get that. But it doesn’t take away from the accomplishments that person did prior to that.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. And you don’t want to disproportionately punish. OK, so somebody commits a crime, you know, somebody speeds, you give them a speeding ticket. OK, but if they speed, you don’t take them to the chair. And I’m just you know, and I’m not saying that what he did is is on the level of speeding. OK, but it’s also not on the level of, in my honest opinion, a lifetime ban forever.
SPEAKER 01 :
So but if I’m not mistaken, too, but, you know, Bob, correct me if I’m wrong, but If I’m not correct, Pete didn’t gamble when he was playing. He only gambled when he was managing. Am I correct in saying that?
SPEAKER 03 :
Partially correct, because when he was managing, he was also a manager player. So he did play also. But he never bet against his own team. If he bet against his own team, then you could say, well, maybe he’s throwing the game. Maybe he didn’t hustle as hard as he could have because he wanted to hedge his bets. But When you’re betting on yourself, that’s not a bad bet. Bet on himself, okay? And so it’s wrong, but it violates the letter of the rule, but it doesn’t violate the spirit of the rule.
SPEAKER 01 :
You’re not going to throw the game in your favor, let’s just say that.
SPEAKER 03 :
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That’s right. That’s what makes the difference.
SPEAKER 03 :
That’s right. Anyway, we appreciate you folks supporting our sponsors. We appreciate you listening to this podcast. We appreciate your five-star reviews and letting your friends know about it as well. So check us out at National Crawford Roundtable Podcast at CrawfordMediaGroup.net. And John Rush, Rush to Reason out of Denver, Colorado. Neil Boron, Neil Boron Live out of Buffalo, New York. We hope to have Neil back with us next week. Myself, Bob Duco, The Bob Duco Show out of Detroit. John, always great catching up with you. Thanks a lot. Have a great week, and we’ll talk to you next week.
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