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in this episode of the National Crawford Roundtable the guys talk about Biden’s “recent” cancer diagnosis. Is this another example of the systemic deception instituted by the left intent on shaping the world to fit their narrative in another desperate attempt to cling to power? Or was tis an innocent oversight by his medical team? The guys also discuss the Comey “8647” seashell story. Is it really possible that he didn’t understand the meaning? Should former government officials and/or entertainers be offered a wink and a nod, or expect prosecution when they threaten (of suggest) assassination of a U.S.
SPEAKER 01 :
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SPEAKER 02 :
Back again with the National Crawford Roundtable Podcast. My name is Neil Boron, host of Neil Boron Live, heard daily on WDCX in Buffalo, New York. All of us are back this week. We’ve had a couple of twofers going on for a while, but Bob Duco, host of the Bob Duco Show on WMUZ in Detroit, back again with us, and John Rush, host of Rush to Reason on KLZ in Denver. So we’re all back. We’ve got a lot to talk about. Hope everybody’s doing well. I wanted to touch on a couple of things that have been in the news, obviously, but one of them having to do with Joe Biden’s recent, quote, recent cancer diagnosis. And this is one of these fascinating things because, you know, we’ve been told that. for years now that joe biden is perfectly well and he’s got the best people looking after him his team of doctors numerous times throughout his pregnancy pregnancies presidency that would be a story um said that men can get pregnant you’re right sorry throughout his presidency you know said he’s fit as a fiddle this guy’s good to go he’s ready for another four years how in the world do you miss A PSA screening, a prostate screening. Come on. Like, does anybody buy this? Yeah. John, what do you think?
SPEAKER 05 :
You don’t. You don’t. I mean, us men and I had several listeners even ask me, it’s like, John, do you know, do you go in and get, you know, regular checkups and things like that along these lines? In this particular case, there’s a lot of things I don’t get. checked up for. I’m not one of those guys that runs to the doctor on a routine basis, but as far as blood work and that kind of stuff goes, yes, on a routine basis, PSA levels get checked. And as you guys know, as those things start to escalate, it’s a pretty good indication that further testing needs to be done. I mean, this is not rocket science. I’m not the president of the United States and I’m doing that. I guarantee you he was.
SPEAKER 02 :
And it’s part of like routine screening, right? This is part of a normal blood test. Come on, I’m not buying this. Bob, I don’t know if you talked about it on your program, but it just kind of doesn’t make any sense. Other than the fact that this looks like another attempt to cover up the fact that they knew all along Joe Biden wasn’t doing well, but they wanted us to believe he was just fine.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah. If you talk to… To doctors, actually, of all the different kinds of cancers and PSA tests and stuff, you know, prostate cancer is one of the earliest detectable cancers too. Correct. And so to think, and by the way, usually you’re going to have prostate cancer for quite a while before it metastasizes to the bone. And so in this case, for them to say, oh, not only does he have cancer, but it’s so far advanced it’s metastasized to the bone, Come on. Clearly this had to be known. And John’s absolutely right. When you’re the president of the United States, you are checked way more detailed than any of us are. And so it is troubling to think that They knew he had cancer sometime during his first four-year term. They had to know that. It does bring into the question the White House physician. Now, Ronny Jackson, the former White House physician for Obama and for Trump, who’s now a U.S. congressman, He says, okay, come on, this is just crazy. You don’t miss something like that. So it does bring into question who the current White House physician is. He doesn’t seem like a left-wing deep state guy, but I would definitely think that this had to be, just like his dementia, how could anybody claim, wow, we just learned he had dementia, and for them to say, wow, we just now learned that he has cancer, this advanced. They were willing to let not only a dementia patient But a cancer patient, they were willing to let that person continue a presidency and actually run for another four years. Biden wasn’t running the show. I don’t know who was. Jill, probably. But somebody else was running the show. We ought to find out who the president was. Who signed the pardons with the auto pen?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, Ian, for both of you guys, the other question you have to ask is, you know, what else are they not telling us? Were there treatments actually going on? Was Joe getting some chemo? Was he getting some radiation? Was there any surgeries involved? I mean, these are things that, by the way, the American public is completely in the dark on. And we may never know for years to come. Who knows?
SPEAKER 03 :
Isn’t his hair hair plugs? Aren’t his hair hair plugs? Because I seem to remember him getting them a long time ago. Because I’m thinking if he got chemo, we should have seen him lose hair. And we didn’t. But I remember quite a while back. If you remember the Clarence Thomas hearings from back when.
SPEAKER 05 :
And really quick, I got to stop you for just one second. Not everybody that goes through chemo loses hair. My dad had stage four colon cancer, went through all of that twice and never lost any hair.
SPEAKER 03 :
Really? OK. It’s not always a given. I did not know that. OK. But if you go back to the Clarence Thomas hearings when Joe Biden was the chairman of those hearings, you could see they weren’t just hair plugs. They were bad hair plugs, you know. And so obviously, if he would have lost his hair, he wouldn’t have if it was fake hair. So we don’t really know the state of his hair. But that’s a good point that you bring up, too. So. Yeah, no, I don’t believe for a second they didn’t know that he had cancer throughout some of, if not all of, his four years.
SPEAKER 05 :
Really quick, I’d go back as far as to say that I would be shocked, guys, if while he was running in 2020 they didn’t know this.
SPEAKER 03 :
You know, personally, I would be too. I would be too. But can I just say also, I think we’re all in agreement on this. I told my audience, as I’m sure you guys told your audience, that when the diagnosis came out, first things first, we’re Christians first. I encourage everybody to be praying for Joe Biden, for his health, for his family, for the people that are—you know, is he a political enemy? Has he been? Yes, but Jesus told us what to do with our enemies, okay, to pray for them, to pray for those who—to love our enemies and to pray for those who persecute us. So we can love him, we can pray for him, and we should, but that doesn’t mean that we don’t also call out and, you know, fight politically people that are enemies.
SPEAKER 05 :
You probably wouldn’t wish cancer on anybody, period, no matter who it is. We wouldn’t wish that on anybody.
SPEAKER 03 :
Of course not. Of course not. And I do wonder, I asked my audience this, if Trump got a cancer diagnosis, would he receive the same kind of gracious thoughts, prayers, and wishes for a speedy recovery from his political enemies on the left? As Trump and the – I mean, even Marjorie Taylor Greene is like, hey, wishing him the best.
SPEAKER 05 :
When Trump was shot, there were those that were coming out within minutes of him being shot saying, you missed. You missed.
SPEAKER 03 :
I know. So you’re proving your own point, Bob.
SPEAKER 05 :
They’ve already proved it.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, you’re right.
SPEAKER 02 :
Hey, we won’t go into detail on this because we need to hear from our sponsors. But I just quickly want to ask, have you guys ever run across any of the conspiracy theories that Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi are both dead? And what we’ve seen over the last few years are body doubles. I kid you not.
SPEAKER 03 :
There are literally listeners on that. What’s that? But look at the photographs of his ears. OK.
SPEAKER 02 :
All right. Right.
SPEAKER 03 :
Slightly different here. Oh, yeah. You know, it’s it’s it’s kind of like a flat earth crowd of people. There’s no getting through to them. But yes, I find that absurd. But I have definitely heard it. There’s no doubt. In all fairness, Nancy Pelosi kind of looks like. you know, rigor mortis set in a couple of years ago. Anyway, tales from the crypt or whatever.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
I’m thinking of young Frankenstein scene with Marty Feldman. Okay. Here’s death. Here’s death at two years, one year, six months. And it’s like, Hey,
SPEAKER 02 :
Speaking about movies and entertainment right before we hear from our sponsors, let me just say, anybody ever see the movie Fletch with the scene when he visits the doctor and has to end up singing Moon River? Anybody ever see that scene? I have not seen Fletch. It has to do with prostate exams. Let’s just say that.
SPEAKER 1 :
Wow.
SPEAKER 03 :
he’s singing moon river yeah exactly yeah it’s a scene worth googling on or whatever on youtube check it out my i gotta say my doctor is a is a friend of mine also he’s been my doctor for a long time he’s a christian and a you know actually a listener to my show and such but yeah every time he has to give me a prostate exam or the you know the the prostate check or all that kind of stuff, you know, yes, we’re always making just the horribly inappropriate jokes with each other. Once again, no dinner, no nothing, you know, just whatever.
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Yeah, and because of skepticism that so many people have right now about big government, we were just talking about that. There’s an openness, I think, to alternative viewpoints. We’ve seen that in the nation’s media and so forth and the growth of talk radio and podcasting and all that. But there’s a lot of people that are skeptical about big pharma and the whole industry that says hey look at this pill can fix all of your problems and even if you get a few side effects that’s all right we have more pills to give you that will help counteract the side effects of those pills and on and on it goes and big pharma gets richer and richer and richer and i think there’s an awful lot of people saying hang on a second there’s got to be a better way so when it comes to things like joint pain and the need to recover from surgeries to rid the body of inflammation and pain, people are looking to alternative sources for good ideas. And I think people really need to check out what’s called photobiomodulation. It’s essentially taking certain wavelengths of light from the red and near-infrared portion of the light spectrum, concentrate those on cells in the human body that are experiencing inflammation and having problems so that the mitochondria can wake up and do what the cell was, you know, designed to do. And that’s to heal the body. Mark is a guy who tells a story about recovering from knee surgery. Today, he’s running again. And the Speedy recovery he enjoyed. Caleb, I’ve talked about him before. He’s a guy that accidentally put a pickaxe into his ankle, severed the tendon there. Doctors were saying, you’re looking at six to eight months before you walk again. But he was walking again in four weeks and didn’t need any pain medication. How’s that possible? Well, red light therapy is highly effective for all kinds of things. Joint pain, reducing pain, I’m sorry, inflammation. in the human body to promote healing, getting rid of pain. Check it out for yourself. Go to SunPowerLED at CrawfordMediaGroup.net. When you get to that same site Bob just mentioned, CrawfordMediaGroup.net, click on SunPowerLED. Learn how the light God created can be used to help heal your body. You know, on this issue of Joe Biden and this so-called recent cancer diagnosis, I think there’s an awful lot of people skeptical that the nation’s media was lying again and that the Democrat elites, you know, who maybe knew something about this were lying. They didn’t say anything, wanted everybody to believe he was healthy. So I want to ask one more question about this. You know, what’s the larger message to the American people about being lied to? And then on top of that, a lot of the people who stood up and boldly said, you know, Joe Biden is good to go. I mean, I work with him every day. I sit in the Oval Office. This guy’s sharp as a tack. are now writing books like, hey, you know, we knew all along. Right. Jake Tapper. Oh, my goodness. Megyn Kelly just undressed him on national TV. It was unbelievable. Your thoughts about that? Because, again, this could be one of these things that people just sort of out of sight, out of mind. They forget about the fact that this was a concerted effort to mislead the American people about our president. It’s shocking. Bob, your thoughts on this?
SPEAKER 03 :
You know, I. It is interesting. Even Jon Stewart. OK, when you lose Jon Stewart and Bill Maher on the left, you know you’re in trouble. And even Jon Stewart skewered Jake Tapper for saying, so basically you’re giving us a bombshell revelation that Joe Biden was in mental decline. And you’re selling us news for 27 bucks in your book that you should have given us a year ago for free on TV. And so but he’s absolutely right. Yeah. Neil, to me, this this is a much larger issue because I would not have thought it possible. for something like this in the United States government to actually happen. There’s a movie. I don’t know if you guys have seen this movie or not. It’s called Dave. Yes. And Kevin Kline, the actor, happens to be – he plays a character that is a spitting image of the actual president. The actual president has a stroke and whatever, can’t function. So they hire this actor, Dave, who’s an impersonator who looks just like the president, to basically pull off the presidency. No, I don’t think that’s what happened with Biden. I don’t think this is a body double. But the fact is that you can have other people, you can have puppeteers basically creating the false impression that there’s a president who’s not really the president. And they did it. They got away with it. And you know our enemies around the world knew this. You don’t think Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping and Iran’s mullahs, you don’t think that they knew? that Joe Biden was not there. He was an empty suit dementia patient. They knew this and they watched the United States carry this out, this scandal. I honestly really truly believe that this in a normal world would be the biggest scandal, political scandal of my lifetime, if not possibly the entire United States existence, that we have a president of the United States who’s not really the president, and there is a backshadow government that’s propping him up. That’s serious. I think there needs to be congressional investigations to get to the bottom of this and find out who needs to be held accountable. And if that’s Jill, so be it.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. John, I can’t argue anything along those lines at all. Again, I think, like I said earlier, we I don’t know that we’ll ever know the full extent of everything that’s gone on for the past four to five years when it comes to Joe Biden and the Biden regime. It might be decades before we actually uncover everything that’s gone on. That’s my opinion. I just think there’s a lot of things, to Bob’s point, things that have been covered up. Were there actual body doubles? I mean, I don’t know, guys. I’m not a conspiracy guy like a lot of people are out there. Although, there are plenty of pictures where when you look at those pictures of Joe from one day to even the next, there is a stark difference from one picture to the other that… I mean, again, I’m not a conspiracy theory guy, as you guys all know, but you start looking at some of those pictures and it’s like I get I get where these come from because they are there are stark difference from one to the other.
SPEAKER 02 :
yeah yeah and then on top of it is the effort to get him re-elected like if he was never the president in the first place apparently and then the effort to continue the deception thank god for the one live debate that revealed to the american public that joe biden was not capable of being the president of the united states and that opened the door for trump’s you know comeback win and becoming the 47 president But it does beg the question, who then was running the country? Don’t we deserve to know about that? And I’m with you, Bob. I think that there needs to be some type of congressional investigation. There’s got to be some records somewhere that indicate what was really going on. And by the way, compare Joe Biden’s record while in office as to how many stand-up press conferences he did where he took open questions from the press pool versus what Donald Trump did just in his first hundred days. I mean, it’s staggering. Absolutely staggering. And off the cuff, impromptu. And by the way, these same people who said Joe Biden was fit, do you recall, tried to make a case that Donald Trump was unfit, that he himself was struggling really bad and incapable of being the president. You see it going both ways.
SPEAKER 03 :
Actually, Neil. Think about how many times in 2017 and 2018 the left tried to push for a 25th Amendment-type issue until Donald Trump, with his annual White House physical, says, you know what, give me the mental acuity cognitive test also. And he aces a 30 out of 30 and said, I kind of shut that down. But the very same people on the left that was screaming 25th Amendment – We’re not willing to consider 25th Amendment with Joe Biden. This was all about how do we hold on to power? And if we can hold on to power and keep him propped up and deceive the public enough, let’s do that. And once the debate came out, we can’t get away with this anymore. All right, let’s scramble somehow, some way. And then the media trying to cover themselves with, what? Wow, we’re learning we were deceived by the Democrat. You weren’t deceived. You were in on it. Shut up.
SPEAKER 05 :
Really quick, the other problem they had, Bob, along those lines was why they didn’t do things earlier is because it didn’t take long for them to figure out that they had Kamala, which was an utter disaster, as it all turned out in the end anyways. And I think a lot of them internally knew that they couldn’t have her be president. That would actually be worse than what it was with her even on the campaign trail. So they had they had sort of this huge dilemma of what do we do now? We don’t have any choice but to prop this guy up. That’s my thought process.
SPEAKER 02 :
yeah you’re probably right and which is also why when when kamala emerged which by the way was completely talk about lack of democracy or at least democratic process in our country you know nobody voted for kamala harris they pushed her to the forefront and there were And I’m sure the Obamas were behind it. Who else knows? But, you know, big donor Democrats and stuff who wanted to get their way. They push her out front, but she’s got nothing to run on. So if you recall, the whole thing, in my estimation, revolved around the vibe. Like, hey, there’s been so much negativity, but look at the happy vibe you get from Kamala. I mean, it’s going to be a better world. Because she’s so happy. And look at how she smiles. And it was like, what? There was nothing there.
SPEAKER 03 :
But in all fairness, we were being unburdened by what has been. That’s true. Please.
SPEAKER 05 :
You can’t forget that. Exactly. And we definitely got unburdened by what had been.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
In the end.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yes, we did. This is true. Quick question here. We don’t have a lot of time before we talk about our sponsors again. But I want to ask you about… This most recent story here that the Democrats are pushing their biggest donors to help find the next, quote, Joe Rogan. In other words, I think the Democrats are realizing that alternative media, podcasters and others have a lot of power. They’ve got a lot of voice. I just don’t think they have anything to talk about. They don’t have a message. But. Anybody worried that there’s going to be an onslaught of liberal, left-leaning talk show hosts that help turn this thing in favor of Democrats and progressives? I’m not really worried about it, but I wonder what you guys thought since you’re in this business.
SPEAKER 03 :
Actually, I’ll tell you right now, I’m not quote-unquote worried about it, but realistically, I do think that the pendulum – is probably going to swing in that direction at some point, where before you know it, you have some… There was a time where there were some big-name leftists that were doing radio, people like Tom Likas and… I can’t think of the guy, the liberal Rush Limbaugh who died a few years ago. Can’t think of his name now. He was an MSNBC host even. But my guess is that they’ll probably get some people like that to catch on and become very popular. To a certain extent, you have some people like Jon Stewart and Bill Maher who are liberals who are able to create a following, but they haven’t really been able to control the podcast market yet. And so I’d be surprised if they didn’t.
SPEAKER 05 :
I don’t think they’ve even bought into the whole left agenda that’s out there. I mean, look at some of what Bill Maher’s done of late. I mean, that guy’s actually getting demonized by his own. Even if he were somebody that wanted to go do that, the left wouldn’t have that anyways.
SPEAKER 03 :
I know. And that’s one of the things that I think the left in this country, they have to figure out what is our brand going to be? I mean, who are we really going to be? Because think about Tim Kaine, who could have been the current vice president of the United States. OK, this is a guy who just the other day. said that ICE agents are Trump’s Gestapo. So how do you take law enforcement officers who are risking their lives to try to capture MS-13 and Tren de Aragua gang members and trying to protect the public from that? How do you equate them to the Gestapo of the Nazis and Adolf Hitler? The This is sick and twisted. This is a guy that was the nominee to be the vice president of the United States. This is who the Democrat Party has become. So they’ve got to figure out, are they going to be the Democrat Party of people like Bill Maher? The centrists will say, come on, enough is enough. Stop stealing the trophies from the women in sports. Or are they going to be the crazy AOC wing? And I don’t know who they’re going to be, but if they can get a moderate voice, for the Democrats, then yeah, I think that guy can become a new Joe Rogan on the left. They just got to figure out who it’s going to be.
SPEAKER 02 :
All right. 10 second response. Do you trust a guy like Bill Maher going to the White House? checking out Donald Trump, I kind of commend him for that. Like, I think that there’s a tiny bit of an open mind there. I do too.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes, I do too.
SPEAKER 03 :
I commend both of them. Okay. Bill Maher deserves a lot of credit for saying, you know something, I’m going to go there and shake Donald Trump’s hand. Of course, let’s have his civil dialogue. And you know something, Trump deserves credit too for saying, sure, I’ll shake his hand. Kid Rock, go ahead and bring him off dinner with him. And I’ll be very cordial and friendly with him too. Okay. Both of them were the adults in the room.
SPEAKER 02 :
What I think, you know, is going to carry the day is truth. And because conservatives have truth largely on their side, certainly not perfect on the conservative side, but we’re talking about truth. We’re talking about common sense. And, you know, you see this clearly with pre-born as a, for instance, Bob, what women are seeing is the child they’re carrying in their womb. It’s undeniable truth that they’re carrying a human being that often somewhere around 80% of the time helps a woman choose life for her baby. Thank God for groups like pre-born.
SPEAKER 03 :
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Yeah, it’s absolutely stunning what light can do to heal the human body. We all know that sound waves have power. It’s why people have sonic toothbrushes or why a serious sonic boom can actually throw someone out of bed in the middle of the night because sound waves have power. Well, light waves do as well. And some of them are so high frequency that our own eyeballs don’t pick it up, kind of like a dog can hear a sound that a human can’t. Well, our eyeballs are not capable of seeing the highest intensity light that is used by SunPower LED. But let me tell you, it’s making a difference. My son, for instance, plays softball and he’s now in his 30s. He used to play high school and college baseball. He’s got basically tennis elbow in both arms and especially the one he used to pitch with. And he uses red light therapy to help calm that down. So he’s able to continue his, quote, career, you know, having fun playing slow pitch softball with the guys. And the results are amazing. Red light therapy can reduce pain and swelling and promote healing in your body. in all different ways with all kinds of different applications. So I urge you to see the videos, check it out for yourself, find out what red light therapy can do for you. Utilize the very light God himself created to help heal your body. Go to CrawfordMediaGroup.net, click on SunPowerLED. CrawfordMediaGroup.net, click on SunPowerLED. Well, another half of the National Crawford Roundtable podcast coming up in just a moment. My name’s Neil. I got Bob Duco with me, John Rush as well, and we will continue in just a moment.
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Well, let’s get back to it. Part two here, second half of the National Crawford Roundtable podcast. My name is Neil Boron, host of Neil Boron Live on WDCX Radio in Buffalo, New York. And today I’m hosting the National Crawford Roundtable podcast. Bob Duco, colleague in Detroit. He’s the host of the Bob Duco Show. And John Rush, host of Rush to Reason in Denver, Colorado, joining us as well. And these guys are not only colleagues and professionals, they’ve become friends over the years, really enjoy the opportunity we have to spend time together here on the roundtable. And we’ve got a lot to talk about this during the second half here. But, Bob, I’ve got to ask you real quick. What’s going on in Detroit, man? The lions have enjoyed a couple of winning seasons and the Detroit tigers have the best record in baseball. Like I saw that this morning. I’m like, what? These people must be listening to the Bob Duco show or something.
SPEAKER 03 :
I know why they must be. I mean, we’re doing some woohoo and around Detroit right now. There’s no doubt, but yeah, major league baseball, we’re setting it on fire. And so I, you know, I think it’s great. And well, well, the, uh, Tigers be able to continue this streak? I sure hope so. Which, by the way, the Detroit Pistons had a great season this year. They got off to the playoffs, but they still had a really great season. So it’s like, my goodness, this is a place to be a sports fan. Although I do have to say, and not to throw in a curveball, pardon the pun, but with baseball being talked and the Tigers being talked up here, we’ve had some serious debates here on this show about baseball. Pete Rose being reinstated now to Major League Baseball. And was he disproportionately punished? And in my honest opinion, I think he was disproportionately punished. I think he deserved to be punished, but not a lifetime ban and certainly not an eternity ban, which is what some people are calling for right now. So I’m glad to see that he’s being reinstated. I would have liked to have seen him at least be reinstated. During his during his lifetime, he died a few months ago at 83. But I would have rather seen that, you know, it’s like, let’s be forgiving. He was punished. He paid his debt to the sports world. But I think he overpaid his debt. So that’s that’s my take, even though I know some people disagree with.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, that’s a side note.
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I just want to throw that in.
SPEAKER 02 :
Thank you. No, thank you for bringing that up. I thought at one point, maybe we should talk about that and we won’t go into great detail here, but I agree with you. I think he should have been reinstated at some point. The story is, and of course there may be details none of us know about, but that he only bet on his team winning, not losing. That’s correct. That is correct. Right. That is, which means like you, he wasn’t, he wasn’t throwing games to his benefit somehow. Right. He was saying, and the other thing is, He had more than 1,000 – he had 4,000-plus hits, broke Ty Cobb’s record. Most people are celebrating when they get to 3,000 hits. The idea of going over 4,000 hits, this guy was an absolutely incredible player. And to try to keep him out of the Hall of Fame, I mean, he was being treated more harshly than the Menendez brothers, like – They’re talking about reducing the sentence. They’re like, come on. Anyway, I’m grateful to see you turn around. John, do you have any opinion on that?
SPEAKER 03 :
By the way, I’m sorry. Just real quick, John. Before you even throw it to John, can I just say regarding Pete Rose, yes, he had ugly demons in his closet, there’s no doubt. But the Hall of Fame is supposed to be about what you do on the field. It’s not supposed to be a measure of somebody’s character. If it’s going to be a measure of somebody’s character, you know who one of the – I hate to say this, but had a reputation for being one of the worst racists that there were? Ty Cobb. Okay. So, yeah. So is he now taken out of the Hall of Fame? Because, you know, so let’s face it. There are a lot of skeletons in people’s closets. And, you know, I had somebody, I had a caller ask me, okay, so, Bob, do you think then that O.J. Simpson should be in the Football Hall of Fame and still be in the record books with his Heisman trophies? And I say, well, yes, he should be – what he did on the field deserves to be in the hall of fame, but there should be an asterisk with it. Oh, by the way, a double murderers in the hall of fame. Okay. But that doesn’t mean that he wasn’t a hall of fame football player. He was. Yeah.
SPEAKER 02 :
What did you say, John?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, if the baseball glove doesn’t fit. If the glove doesn’t fit, you have to quit. That’s right. Because Pete Rose always had trouble getting his glove on. So that is true.
SPEAKER 02 :
You want to know something? You mentioned Tom Likas earlier, a liberal talk show host. I might have said this. In 1992 – At the Democratic Convention in New York City, I was in Madison Square Garden. I was situated way up in the bleachers, you know, way up in the media section somewhere. And I was working for Focus on the Family as an East Coast correspondent, kind of doing like undercover work, talking to liberals and progressives without them really knowing who I was, getting some incredible soundbites. But Right next to me literally right next to me was Tom like us and I could only take it for like a day and I’m Like I’m gonna have to find somewhere else to work This isn’t work and he was he was unbelievable and the reason I brought that up is because he was talking about the OJ Decision at that point. No, I tell you what he’s he got on my radar screen at that point and then later when you know, it came out and that O.J. was found innocent, he kind of asked his audience and he said, you know, do you agree with this? I only want to hear from the black people. Like, do you really think that a double murderer should be found innocent? And they said, because of what happened in slavery, almost like a reparations thing, because of what happened in slavery, yes, he should be innocent no matter what, even if he killed his wife. Okay. All right. Well, interesting conversation. That was, yeah. Well, um, so Pete Rose may end up in the hall of fame. We’ll see where that goes. All right. Um, A couple of other things here to talk about in the second half, but we haven’t really touched on James Comey, former FBI director, big friend of President Trump, of course, over the years. Really, really love these two guys. Hang out every chance they get. But the 86-47 seashell story. I don’t know if one of you wants to put it in perspective for us what happened there, but. He claims he ran across some seashells on the beach, I guess posted it to social media somehow. But the shells or the stones, whatever, were in the shape of 86, 47. 86 referring to like, you know, in the underground world of the mafia and stuff, killing someone. 86 them. 86 them, yep. Knock them off, kill them. And then 47 referring to his presidency. And he’s like, Comey’s like, well, I just, I thought it was just a collection of seashells on the beach. He came up with these other crazy ideas.
SPEAKER 03 :
Do you think he admitted he admitted that he knew that this was political? So he knew the 47 was referring to Trump because he said, I assume that this is a political message. So he already knows 47 applies to Trump. So but he’s claiming he doesn’t know what 80. I started out in the restaurant business when I was a kid. OK, so, yes, in the restaurant business, 86 is a term for when you’re out of something. OK, we’re out of hamburgers. All right. We’re 86 hamburgers. All right. Yeah. So, but yes, in the mafia world, 86ing is often, if you 86 a person, that means to eliminate that person, to cause them to cease to exist, to kill them. How does the director of the FBI be so clueless to assassination nomenclature, to not know that 86 is a reference to offing somebody? Of course he knew that. And if he’s going to say, Well, I didn’t know what that meant. I just thought it was as his clever and then take a picture of it and say, this is cool. OK, if you don’t know what 86ing Trump means, then are you open to the possibility that 86ing meant, hey, compliment Trump, vote for Trump, support Trump, back Trump? How do you know it’s not something complimentary of Trump? It’s a great question. Then take a picture of it and say, hey, this is cool. What a clever message. No, he clearly knew what 86ing the president meant. And frankly, I’ll bet you he’s the one that arranged the seashells and took a picture of it and got his wife to agree with him on this bogus story.
SPEAKER 05 :
There’s some theories out there, Bob, that because of the artisticness of kind of how they were assembled and so on, that he had no artistic ability, but his wife did. So there’s some theories out there that she was just involved in this as he was. And it was probably a joint venture and not just him running across some shelves.
SPEAKER 03 :
I wouldn’t be a bit surprised because, you know what? She has to know how corrupt and dishonest he was in everything that he did as FBI director. So for all I know, maybe she’s his Jill Biden.
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SPEAKER 03 :
It used to be. Yeah. Last time I checked.
SPEAKER 02 :
Used to be.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah. You know what? It’s just the way that the – you know who I see a big villain here being too is the media. I know I hammer them a lot. But you know what? Come on. When Obama was president – I’m trying to imagine any conservative right-wing person who’s a Trump supporter. I’m just trying to imagine them, let alone a government official like a former director of the FBI, taking a picture of some seashells and say 86-44, I think it was. I can’t imagine such a thing. The press would have a cow over that. Of course there would be congressional investigations over this. With with James Comey and the idea of, hey, off angle. Oh, by the way, this isn’t just any president that you’re making a joke about. Hey, somebody kill him. It’s not just any president. This is somebody who’s already survived two assassination attempts, including having a bullet ripped through his ear. OK, so this is even more offensive. of an egregious thing to think something like this is cute. And he’s supposed to be the former director of the FBI. This guy’s got no credibility at all, in my opinion.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah. John, should there be a further investigation? Should there be an attempt to prosecute any of these people? I mean, Pearl Jam did something similar. Madonna, Johnny Depp, Snoop Dogg. I mean, this happens and there’s an awful lot of people frustrated about Donald Trump. Should we just look the other way and say, hey, guys, knock it off? Or should there be some attempt to put a clamp on it?
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, I think politically speaking, just move on. Don’t worry about it as much as a lot of folks out there listening. You probably would disagree with that. I think at this point in time, move on, focus on the things that really matter. Let’s get things back on track in the country, get the economy back where it needs to be. Even the political, you know, the the how you want to say it, you know, what Pam Bondi is having to do and some of the things that are involved in that end of things. Let’s get law and order back where it needs to be. And There’s always going to be those are the centers, those people that are that way. You know, let let them act out who they really are and their true colors will show. And, you know, off we go.
SPEAKER 03 :
And you know what? I’m going to I’m going to push back on you, John. OK, I I think we need to walk and chew gum at the same time. I agree with all the stuff that needs to be done. But when we give them a pass for stuff like this, OK, it just perpetuates is happening more and more. I think this is a point where the right needs to stand up and say, no, you know what? We’re going to fight back. And we’re not going to allow you to get away with this nonsense anymore. We’re sick of the double standard where if we color slightly outside the lines, you want to schedule impeachment hearings. But you guys are allowed to make jokes about assassinating the president. And we’re just going to, well, let’s move on and focus on other things. Moving on doesn’t work because then they realize we’ve got to pass to do anything we want to. So, yeah, let’s push the agenda forward. But at the same time, no, we’re going to hold you accountable. Don’t do crap like this anymore. So I think we’ve got to make an issue out of it and make an example of them and say we’re going to fight back. You need to start being just as afraid of Republicans and conservatives when we’re in power as you’ve made us be afraid of you. But the difference is we’re not going to make up bogus crimes.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, so personally, I think you’ve got to be a little careful because on the one hand, you’ve got the freedom of speech issue and how far does it extend, whatever. But then remember what happened outside the Supreme Court justices’ homes? There was protesting there and potentially an attempt to sway their position on things like— Which was a crime. It is a crime, right. So, I don’t know, I tend to agree more with Bob that we need to look at it seriously because you also have the effect of where if somebody’s saying this publicly, what it’s, what do they call it, a copycat crime, for instance, when somebody, there’s a school shooting, sometimes there’s multiple school shootings all, you know, within a short period of time. on the copycat thing well what about suggested type crimes when somebody starts saying hey just knock off the president ha ha ha and then somebody does or attempts to and it creates this idea that well maybe we’ll get in on this maybe somebody can actually succeed at it i i think for that reason it has to be taken seriously but uh anyway let me ask you this we don’t have a lot of time here are you and i agreeing with each other against john wow what is happening right it’s like an alternative universe thing Right now. Yeah. Well, it’s not me. It’s my body double that’s agreeing with you.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, this is true because you know what? Your ears do look different in some of your more recent photos.
SPEAKER 02 :
There we go. Exactly. So here’s a question. I just was thinking about this. There’s nothing necessarily in the news, but does this whole MAGA movement, you know, the attempt to trim the size of government and move in a more conservative direction, the um common sense revolution lord i hope so but is there enough momentum is there enough staying power minus donald trump to see this continue in the future like at the end of his term unless he figures out a way to get a third term and i would be against that constitutionally 100 so but You know, if Donald Trump at some point is gone and Lord willing, not via assassination, but if he’s out of the picture, can the MAGA movement, this conservative movement continue or will there be an attempt to just go back to rhino business as usual in the Republican Party? Bob, do you have an opinion on that?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, I do think it has the potential to continue. I don’t think you necessarily have to have a figurehead that’s the face of it. I mean, Donald Trump is the figurehead face of the MAGA movement right now. But before Donald Trump became the face of this, there was the Tea Party movement. And this was an actual real movement. And I don’t know that you could take one individual and see them as the de facto leader of the Tea Party movement. There were individual leaders within it. So I do think that there is a philosophical movement that can happen. There were the 99 versus 1 percent on the left, the 99ers and such. And so, yeah, I do think that the MAGA movement itself has the potential – to continue forward if they come up with some kind of an organizational structure similar to how the Tea Party movement had an organizational structure. If they can do something like that, then I think they can make themselves viable post-Trump. Right now, it’s a lot easier when you have an individual that’s the face of it, and Trump is certainly the face of it. So it’s going to be difficult, but I don’t think it’s impossible. The movement has staying power.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, so, but John, what about you? With Donald Trump not at the epicenter at some point in the future, is there enough state power?
SPEAKER 05 :
We still have, this is the difference between us and the left, we have a lot in our bench along those lines. So, you know, what I mean by that is, you know, we talked even yesterday on our program. You know, J.D. Vance, Marco Rubio, you talk about a ticket there that might even be possible as we head into the next election cycle. And there’s a lot of others, by the way. It’s not just those two. But, you know, can the momentum continue to move forward on our side of the fence? I believe so. Yes. In fact, we’ve got some real solid leaders, people that can actually go out, talk to the press, talk to the public and so on. The left, on the other hand, as we talked earlier, they’ve got a huge issue going on because, frankly, they well, First of all, they don’t understand what true leadership is. They have a lot of talking points. They rant. They rave. They do a lot of things on emotion. But they really don’t have any real true leaders on their side of the aisle. And as we all know, when you have no real leadership, things will falter. And that’s what’s happening on the Democrat side. We have true leaders on our side. And, yeah, I believe, Neil, they’ll rise to the top as soon as Donald Trump is done. Somebody will come in and take his place. And I’m like, Bob, it doesn’t have to be just one person. Collectively, can this be done? Absolutely. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 02 :
Come to think of it, because I’m thinking about people that are very verbal. Like I think JD Vance has the academic and verbal acumen, you know, to step in and make some important things happen. I’m not such a big fan of Marco Rubio for those reasons. It’s not that I dislike where he stands on issues or anything. It’s just, I don’t see the strength of leadership. But what about people like Vivek Ramaswamy? You had him on your program, Bob, right? What happened to him? He’s kind of out of the picture. Well, he’s running for governor of Ohio.
SPEAKER 03 :
He’s running for governor of Ohio. I think he has to try to focus on that more locally and try to convince people that he is not just a – crazy bomb thrower, but he knows how to be a traditional professional politician that independents can trust to vote. So that’s why I think he’s probably pulled back somewhat in his bombastic Trump Jr. kind of personality and style. That’s my best guess.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, I knew he was running for governor, but for a while he was on Fox News every single night. He had this very national presence and all of a sudden not so much. So I was like, well, has he found disfavor in the party or something? I’m not sure. I don’t think so.
SPEAKER 03 :
I think he’s just afraid of not looking gubernatorial when he goes on Fox News too much. So I really think that’s all it is. It’s just a branding thing that I’m going to have to get some centrist. So let me color within the lines and put on a tie and look a little bit gubernatorial. And that’s really what I think he’s doing right now.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah. Well, interesting. And we’re going to obviously be watching closely to see where all of this goes. And the big thing in the future, near future, is the midterms and whether or not there’s enough to get the Republicans across the line here to be able to retain control of the House and Senate. We’ll have to watch how that plays out.
SPEAKER 03 :
Can I throw in a quick curveball, just real quick? I am kind of curious to get you guys’ take on this. Neil, sorry to grab this from you, but what do you guys think of the Golden Dome idea? I’m surprised it took us this long. To have something like this. Israel’s got it. Why in the world doesn’t the United States have it? You know that China hates it. China’s already come out now and said, you know, we condemn this. You know, Russia hates it large. I think this is brilliant on Trump’s part. Absolutely. We should have a golden dome. Why in the world don’t we?
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, well, Ronald Reagan was kind of talking about something similar back in the day. I know, he’s made fun of Star Wars. Yeah, back in the day. I actually had it on my list here to bring up, but I had it at number six, so we didn’t make it that far. But I’m glad you brought it up, seriously, because it is an issue, and I think it would be appropriate to pursue it. Why would Israel have something like that, but not the U.S.? We’re fully capable of doing it. But it’s like 600-something billion. I don’t remember what they were saying.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, they’re talking about $175 billion is what they’re estimating the total cost of it will be. But Trump’s original bill right now they’re trying to push through has $25 billion to at least get it kicked off.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, well, I think the $175 billion will cover the feasibility studies. You wait and see. It’s going to be way more than what they’re saying. Yeah, that probably would be.
SPEAKER 03 :
Although, if anybody knows how to come in under budget, it is Trump. So, you know, we’ll see. But, you know, you could be right.
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