In this episode of the National Crawford Roundtable Podcast the guys review the historic EU Trade Deal. The roundtable dives into the latest news about the 8.7 Earthquake in Russia and the Tsunami alert that followed it. They also discuss TSA Regulations and potential Rollbacks. Also on the table: Is Donald Trump Jewish? The guys talk about the questions regarding Trump’s religious affiliation. And they take an in depth look at a recent Slate article about “bad brains” which reinforces what the Bible says about revenge and forgiveness.
SPEAKER 01 :
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SPEAKER 02 :
Welcome to another episode of the National Crawford Roundtable. Today, it’s myself, John Rush. I am host of Rush to Reason in Denver, Colorado. Bob Duco with me today as well from Detroit, Michigan. The Bob Duco Show. Neil Boron is out today from Buffalo, New York. So, Bob, it’s just you and me. Oh boy, you and me, we’ll talk about Neil behind his back again, as we usually do. That’s exactly right. And lots to talk about, guys. I don’t know if we’ll get to all of it. We want to talk about the EU trade deal, potentially. Somebody had mentioned to us that Donald Trump is Jewish, so I thought maybe we might touch on that just for maybe a moment or two. There’s a great article in Slate. This came out, I believe, last week or the week before we were even talking about bad brain. We’ll get into that. And it’s got a very Christian, in my opinion, Christian aspect that coming from Slate was ironic in and of itself. But let’s talk about for a moment, Bob, the earthquake off of Russia. Folks were probably watching that last night. It was big news, 8.8 in the top 10, I think, of all earthquakes. Hawaii was, you know, most of the coastline and that they were evacuating people, getting them up to a four store above building. And thankfully, by the way, Bob, very little, if any damage done whatsoever out of that.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah. When I saw 8.8, I was like, shnikes. Me too. That’s pretty massive. And I thought, oh, I mean – because I don’t know a lot about how the Richter scale system works, but one thing I do know is that the increases every tenth of a digit – is like exponentially going up. So like an 8.7 is way higher than an 8.6. An 8.6 is way higher than an 8.5. So when you usually see really, really strong earthquakes, a 7, 7.4, to have an 8.8, it blows my mind that the tsunami wasn’t like a Hollywood Armageddon movie kind of thing.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, and I think that’s what some people were expecting. And as it turned out, that… I guess fortunately, and I don’t know like you, ironically, here in Golden, we have the actual center, the epicenter for all earthquake recordings and monitoring and so on is right here in Golden, Colorado, where I live. So believe it or not, I’ve toured that facility several times over the years. And it’s very cool how they do all of that. But anyways, regardless, Bob, I don’t know enough about how, you know, under the sea what that does, how long it might take to dissipate. Those are things way above my pay grade.
SPEAKER 03 :
And, you know, for all I know, I’m quite sure that there’s some geologists and oceanographers and people like that that are familiar with the sonar mapping of the ocean floor. And they could say, you know, something based on where these particular ridges are and these particular crevices are, we think this will dissipate earlier. Who knows? But bottom line, disaster could have happened. Could have. Certainly to Hawaii, right?
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That’s right.
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Not to mention potentially California and Alaska.
SPEAKER 02 :
That’s right.
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Yeah, and it just didn’t happen. So my biggest concern was going to be Hawaii. I thought, well, it’s liable to dissipate by the time it makes it to California. But my goodness, poor people in Hawaii, and that didn’t even happen either. So, wow.
SPEAKER 02 :
And part of what I wanted to talk about that was, you know, anytime something like this happens, our side, you know, some of the Christian right, I guess you could say, Bob, sort of comes out of the woodwork and, you know, it’s the old, you know, the earth is groaning and we’re getting closer to the end of times. And, you know, Christ is, you know, his return is imminent. And I was listening to somebody the other day talk about how they feel like he may come back in September. I always wonder where these dates come from, by the way, Bob. It’s like, okay, September. Okay. How do you get September of 2025 out of all of the things I read? Because last I checked, even Christ himself doesn’t know when he’s coming back, Bob.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. Well, I’m guessing he does now. When he was walking on earth, he was certainly limited in his knowledge in certain areas. And that’s when he said, you know, no one knows the hour or day of the return of the Son of Man, not even the sun. But keep in mind, he was in his earthly body. He’s still fully God. True. But he did have limited knowledge at that time because it does say also that when he was a child that he was growing in wisdom and stature. So if he’s growing in wisdom, that means he had less wisdom at one time and more wisdom later. So there would be certain things that Jesus would have, in essence, voluntarily limited his knowledge of. Coming to Earth. And so – but does he know now? I’m guessing he does now. I’m guessing he sends to the right hand of the father and says, OK, come on, Dad. You can tell me now. But I don’t know.
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Bottom line, we don’t.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. We don’t and we shouldn’t even remotely – remember the guy – remember Harold Camping from back when? Oh, yes. Oh, yes. this was supposed to happen. It was supposed to happen, I believe, on May 21st, if I remember right, of that year, whatever year it was. And so I had him on the show on May 20th, and we debated this. And I was like, are you 100% convinced for like 99 points? He said, 100%. So I said, okay, well, do me a favor then. Why don’t you write me a check right now for $1 million and post-date it for two days from now? And he said, I’m not going to do that. Why? I mean, if you’re 100% convinced, then you should have no problem post-dating me a check because two days from now, you’re going to see it didn’t happen because nobody knows the day or the hour. It didn’t matter. He wasn’t going to listen.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, and my point is for all of you that are listening, and I know we get a lot of hate mail at times for some of the things that we say, but folks, again, please, For the sake of the kingdom, don’t run around talking about, you know, that the rapture is going to be any day and it may even be September. I mean, here’s the reality. It could be any day. It could be in the next 10 years. It could be in the next 100 years. The reality, Bob, is we don’t know. Be prepared at all times. That’s the way to live life. Uh, and making sure that we’re going to bring as many people with us as possible, but to sit around every day wishing and hoping for his return and then being mesmerized by that being, being crippled. Even if you would have known people along those lines where literally their life choices are all based on that. Bob, that’s a very unwise thing to do in my opinion.
SPEAKER 03 :
You know, it is, and it’s not healthy. And by the way, it’s not scriptural either, because we’re supposed to be ready for his return. We’re supposed to look for the general signs of his return, which I would argue we do see right now. But we’re to be like the five wise virgins, okay? Let’s have our oil lamps full. Let’s be ready. Let’s be prepared. So when he comes like a thief in the night, we’re not caught by surprise. We’re prepared. There you go. And so that’s what we need to do. But to sit there and be looking out the windows, listening for a horn and looking at your watch and calendar because, hey, today I think is going to be the day. No, we’re supposed to live, occupy, worship him, draw people to him, but be prepared for any day that it does happen.
SPEAKER 02 :
And I will just close with this. There will be other earthquakes. There will be other disasters, things along those lines. We live in a fallen world. These things have been happening since the fall of man, and they will continue to happen, Bob. Again, we are a fallen people, and it will continue to happen until Christ comes again. So just because these things happen.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, go ahead. I’m just waiting for somebody to play the global warming extreme weather card. I’m really waiting for that. Even though it’s an earthquake, they will find a way. If Joy Behar or Sonny Hostin can find a way to connect this to global warming. Good point.
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Good point.
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But we’ll wait and see, I guess.
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SPEAKER 02 :
That’s awesome, Bob. I appreciate that. Let’s switch gears. The EU trade deal, which is big news and has been all over the news this week, and there’s been a lot of folks on the left that are sort of poo-pooing this, if you would, Bob, talking about it. Well, it’s just an agreement. It’s not really that big of a deal. Donald Trump really didn’t accomplish anything here. I mean, by the way, these people are absolute loons, Bob, because this is probably – One of, if not the best trade deal I think we’ve ever made in the history of this country. I don’t think I’m wrong in saying that. This is a deal that will, how should I say this? It levels the playing field, gives us a hedge against them, if you would. On top of that, they have agreed to, for those of you maybe that don’t know, this $750 billion agreement to buy liquefied natural gas from us over the next three years. Not a decade, over the next three years and an additional billions of dollars investment into the U.S. Bottom line, Bob, this was a fabulous deal that he made.
SPEAKER 03 :
It was, I mean, actually really historic. And I got to say, no matter what you think of Donald Trump, if you don’t like him, you don’t like his personality, you don’t like his style, too rough around the edges, nobody, there’s two things nobody can take away from the man. One is… is raw courage. I mean, I’m sorry, you get shot and you got blood running down your face. You get up, pump your fist. Okay. Nobody can call the guy a coward. And the second thing is nobody can say that the guy does not have the art of the deal, that he knows how to negotiate deals that are seemingly impossible. Now, yes, I know he’s still having trouble getting Russia, Ukraine. I get that. And Gaza, Israel. All right. Those are the two that are still on the plate that he’s still working. All right. But the other stuff, My goodness, this EU deal to take 27 nations in the EU and for Trump to play hardball with them as they did, and they’re so used to for decades having a trade imbalance with the U.S. to the tunes of hundreds of billions of dollars. The bottom line, what Trump came out of with here is that The European Union is going to pay a 15% tariff, not 35, but 15% tariff on their products coming into the U.S. But we are going to pay a 0% tariff on our products, including vehicles, going into the European Union. Now, you might say, well, that’s not fair. That’s imbalanced in our favor. Yes, it is. Because you know what? To right the ship, sometimes you have to turn the rudder hardly the other way to get it back to the center. And that’s what we’re doing here. Trump is doing this to dig us out of the hole. Exactly. You know what? Exactly. And so now you’ve got 15 percent versus zero percent. And as you said, they’ve agreed to purchase 750 billion, that’s three quarters of a trillion dollars in U.S. energy and an additional 600 billion dollars in various investments in the U.S. on top of what they already invest. So this is massive. It’s going to make U.S. businesses and the U.S. worker benefit large. And it sends a message around the rest of the world that it’s time to be more fair with the United States.
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And the one thing, folks listening, that you’re not seeing in the mass media because they hate Donald Trump, there’s nothing that I mean, that guy could walk on water and there would be a problem with that, Bob, at the end of the day. I mean, the reality is. They hate the man. They’re going to do everything they possibly can to undermine him. And the one thing that you’re not hearing in the press, you don’t hear it. In fact, don’t even hear it as much on our side as I think you should. I don’t know what the exact multiplier of those numbers are. I’m guessing in my own mind, Bob, from kind of being in the business world and so on, that there’s at least A two, if not a four-time multiplier on that. There’s for sure a double multiplier on those numbers that you just gave. And I’m guessing it’s probably more like three to four times, meaning that you take a $500 billion investment that’s really equaling probably $2 trillion when it’s all said and done because of all of the other things that that grows into. And it’s not being talked about enough, Bob, because it’s not just a $750 billion. It’s not just a $600 billion. The same thing with Japan that they just agreed to do. Those numbers can be multiplied three and four times over.
SPEAKER 03 :
That’s right. Japan’s investment agreement is $550 billion. The multiplier part of this, John, you’re absolutely right. Hardly anybody talks about that because it is kind of inside baseball as far as economics go, but it’s a very real thing. Absolutely. When you invest into something, there is a yield from that investment. That’s right. You don’t just invest in something and then, hey, you’re out that money and you stay even. So an investment pays off, which means when this investment is happening in the U.S., U.S. businesses are going to be growing, expanding, opening up new facilities, opening up new branches throughout the United States, hiring more people, paying more taxes into the U.S. government on top of everything else.
SPEAKER 02 :
And really quick, Bob, as an example for people listening to where you may not quite understand – what we’re talking about. Let’s do the reverse. We’ve all seen across the country where a big plant closes up and they move overseas or they’re not doing well enough anymore. So they just close for whatever reason. And in that particular case, depending upon the size of the town, in fact, you know, even big, big towns have a hard time overcoming some of these, depending upon the size of the plant. You take a plant, Bob, that’s employing you know, 3,000 people, for example. We had a situation happen in our valley, Boulder Valley here. I mean, it’s been, you know, a few decades ago where storage tech actually pulled out. There’s some consolidation and so on. And about 3,000 people were left, you know, were out of work. The multiplier at that time and what that did to the local economy, Bob, was huge. The impact was so dramatic that there were some other businesses that just couldn’t make it because of the loss of those people now not having jobs. So, For those of you that are listening that don’t understand that, go look at places where businesses have left, large corporations, large plants, and so on have left, and look at what happens. This is the reverse of that.
SPEAKER 03 :
That’s right. And so to the Trump thing that I was saying before, though, I don’t think anybody can take away from him his ability to strike. In his first term, who would have thought that he would have been able to scrap NAFTA and replace it with the USMCA and get Mexico and China to agree to the things that they agreed to, the guy knows how to make deals happen and then shake hands with the people afterward. He’s done it with trade. He’s certainly done it with the ceasefires and the peace deals. Do you realize in six months the guy has successfully negotiated six deals? Ceasefires. Six ceasefires slash peace deals between Pakistan and India, Congo and Rwanda. That’s had a 30-year conflict, by the way. Rwanda’s foreign minister says, give Trump the Nobel Peace Prize. Thailand and Cambodia, Israel and Iran. And this is after Iran had their nuclear facilities severely set back with missile attacks. The Houthis in Yemen attacking U.S. ships and Egypt and Ethiopia. Six conflicts. Huge. peace agreements or ceasefires, six conflicts in six months, one a month averaging. That doesn’t even include the phenomenal trade deals. And by the way, the amount of money that’s come into the U.S. now in just his six months in the White House from tariffs alone is $150 billion. And actually, he didn’t announce his tariffs until April. So we’re talking about $150 billion in the last And that doesn’t count the one and a half trillion dollars, the close to two trillion dollars in investments, which is liable to turn into four trillion or five trillion over the next several years. It is massive. And if for anyone named anything other than Trump. This would be all over the news, and if it were a Democrat, they’d be clearing out a space on Mount Rushmore right now.
SPEAKER 02 :
That’s right. Sure would be. No, you are 1,000% correct, and this is where even a lot of folks on the right, and we get some of these messages in that come back in to us, you know, you, I, and Neil, and we read some of these things. Actually, we read them all for all of you that are listening, so if you ever want to get any feedback, yes, we read all of those. Don’t know that we take some of those to heart because, no offense, some of you are absolutely crazy on some of your thought processes. For example… We got a message in, speaking of Donald Trump, that Donald Trump is not a Christian. And by the way, I don’t know where Donald Trump’s faith is. We say that on this program all the time, by the way. None of us, myself, Neil, or Bob, have ever said that we know Donald Trump’s heart, that we know where he stands spiritually. I have no idea, Bob, what his spiritual condition is, what he believes and doesn’t believe in. He’s not very public about those things. You can see some of the things that he does. You can see his deeds, I guess you could say, at the end of the day. But I don’t know where Donald Trump stands when it comes to those things. But I also know this, you know, the comment that Donald Trump is somehow Jewish or he converted to Judaism. I have not seen anything, any way, shape or form, Bob, along those lines, nor do I see him practicing anything along those lines. If he’s doing something along those lines, it is totally in secret.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, I’m not seeing it either. I mean, his daughter, Ivanka, she converted to Judaism. OK, fine.
SPEAKER 02 :
Her husband’s a Jew.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah. Yeah, Jared Kushner. And Donald Trump is very sympathetic and supportive of Israel and Jews. And so in that regard, you can point to that. But no, I see no evidence that he has converted to Judaism or something. And you’re right. We don’t know his heart. God knows his heart. I do know this, though, that if you compare Donald Trump today… to we’ll say Franklin Graham, then all right, he’s way, way, way worldly. But if you compare Donald Trump of 2025 to Donald Trump of just 2015, let alone 2010, I don’t know how anybody can deny that there’s not movement. So I would argue if he did accept the Lord, And there’s anecdotal accounts that he did. If he did accept the Lord, he’s growing at a very glacial pace. I admit that, at least what he produces on the outside. But I got to tell you something. On my show, I had James Dobson tell me that he’s talked with Donald Trump privately and personally and that, yes, he has accepted Jesus as Savior. I had James Robeson on my show, who’s a very well-known, very well-respected evangelical leader. He’s 81 years old now. But James Robeson. was on my show. And he said, sorry, I was about five minutes late. I just got off the phone with Donald Trump. This is during his first term. And I said, really? I said, you just talked to him on the phone? He says, yeah, he just called me. I said, Trump just called you. The president of the United States just called you. And he said, yeah. He said he calls me up sometimes just privately and says, hey, I’m really struggling with a decision here. Will you pray for me? And will you pray with me? And I go, you’re kidding. He says, yeah, but that’s not that’s not stuff for the media. He doesn’t do that. He doesn’t put out a press release.
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Right.
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And he says, I get calls like that from time to time from he just wants prayer, you know. And so, again, I don’t know his heart, but, you know, something it it suggests to me that he really did accept the Lord most likely. But he’s still got one foot clearly in the world and it’s a slow, gradual growing process for him. And we ought to be praying for them instead of constantly just trying to find fault and pick them apart.
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Second half, National Crawford Roundtable. Again, myself, John Rush. Denver, Colorado, Rush to Reason is my show. Bob Duco from Detroit, Michigan with the Bob Duco Show. And Neil Boron from Buffalo, New York is not with us today. I believe Neil will be back with us next week, Bob. And always miss Neil. How should I say this? Is he the voice of reason between the three of us? How does that work?
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Well, I think so. Look, you’re the libertarian that sometimes has to be lassoed. All right. I’m the right wing zealot that sometimes has to be lassoed. And then you’ve got Neil, who’s the pastoral balancer who says, hey, guys, let’s remember to bring everything back to Christ.
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And then he’s absolutely right. Which I appreciate, by the way.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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All right, speaking of.
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That’s a good balance.
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Speaking of, and they’ve got a couple of things I want to talk about during this half hour, but one of the things I want to talk about, and it’s an article that I just happened to run across, and I get a lot of things that come into my inbox, come into, you know, I’m an Apple user, so Apple News has things that they put out and so on. And this particular article from Slate, which I need to remind everybody, is, let’s say it this way, Bob. A slate is, let me think about it and see if I can find a comparison. It’s not even the Fox News. It’s not even the Fox News of the left. It is so far left. It’s the bright part of the left. Thank you. Thank you. It is that far left that folks, when you read anything from them, typically I’ll read a headline and it’s like, it’s slate. Do I even want to get into this? I don’t know if I even want to read this because I know where it’s coming from, but I read a lot of stuff on the left, Bob, just to know. how they think and what they do. I know you do the same thing. I do that daily. I want to know what the left is thinking. I also do on my program every Wednesday, I do a health and wellness segment in the first hour of every Wednesday. So I’ll do that a little bit later today because we record these on Wednesday mornings. And I happen to see an article that just popped up in Apple News and it was titled Bad Brains. And I do a lot of things on brain health because of my dad and the dementia and Alzheimer’s and all of that is sort of key to me to talk about those things. And how to even maybe prevent some of those things. So I read the article and the headline was bad brains, your brain on revenge looks a lot like your brain on drugs. And there’s only one twisted way to get your fix. Well, that caught my eye, Bob. So I started reading through and I read the entire article. I’ve read it a couple of times now. And in a nutshell, for all of you that are listening, right, left, middle, doesn’t matter where you’re coming from, this entire article, and Slate has no idea of this because they use a lot of scientific evidence in this. What they’ve done, Bob, in this article is prove exactly what God taught us through the Bible, that revenge is the Lord’s. It is not for you to have. It will literally destroy you by not having that unforgiveness in your own heart.
SPEAKER 03 :
That is so true. And as a matter of fact, I have a copy of that article here. And John, if I could, I just want to read to you a portion of this. It’s not too often I get to say the words. Let me read to you from a Slate article.
SPEAKER 02 :
Exactly. Exactly.
SPEAKER 03 :
But here’s what they say. After this whole thing about what neuroscientists say, revenge, revenge thoughtfulness damages your brain in so many different areas and actually increases your pain. Here’s what Slate then goes on to say, not from a Christian perspective, but says, you But neuroscientists have now discovered a different, more potent, and widely available remedy for revenge right inside our own brains, forgiveness. Research has conducted MRI brain scans or brain studies, and they’ve discovered that when you simply imagine forgiving a grievance without even informing the transgressor, you deactivate your brain’s pain network, the anterior insula, stopping rather than merely covering up. the pain of a grievance. You also shut down the nucleus accumbens and dorsal stratum, the brain’s pleasure and reward circuitry, which stops intrusive revenge desires. Finally, you activate your prefrontal cortex, restoring executive function and self-control so you can make decisions that are in your own self-interest. And then this last sentence. In other words, neuroscience shows us that forgiveness is a sort of wonder drug that stops pain, stops revenge cravings, restores rational thinking, and helps set you free from the wrongs and traumas of the past. And on top of that, it’s free, available without a prescription. You would think this was an evangelical pastor writing a piece here like this. Do you know, John, do you have any idea? And this is the apologist in me now, okay? Do you have Any idea how many discoveries have been made in science and medicine today that go against the grain of what people believed in biblical times, but Scripture is instructing us, go this way, not that way. Now we know… The things that God instructed us to do is actually better for us. The foods, if you look at the dietary laws from the Old Testament, the things that were forbidden were among the most unhealthy foods today. And by the way, also a scientific study that I’ve talked about on my show, it turns out that fasting… Fasting ends up replenishing your white blood cells and basically it strengthens and powers your immune system and can fight things like cancer and everything else. Fasting. So who knew? Maybe Jesus knew what he was talking about when he said, when you fast and I expect you to forgive, as he says in Matthew 18.
SPEAKER 02 :
It is strong, strong evidence, again, proving the Bible is once again, once again, I should say, true. We’re going to talk more about this because I actually inserted this into my show this last week, not only to talk about what you and I, Bob, are talking about now, but then I wanted to talk about how that affects people’s thought process in I’m going to go to the right side of the aisle this time we come back from our talk about pre-born and SunPower LED. But the reality, Bob, is this can affect people deep down inside. We’ll get into that. And I want to make sure that our side is not affected by this. So pre-born, Bob, talk to us about pre-born, if you would.
SPEAKER 03 :
I’ll tell you what, Preborn, what a great organization. You know, they’re in pro-life centers all across the country. And moms go into pro-life centers, pregnant women, and they got people whispering her in their ear, go across the street to Planned Parenthood, just get an abortion, be done with it. But in the pro-life centers, they show her an ultrasound image of her baby. And when she sees a picture of her baby, she very rarely goes through with an abortion. She usually chooses life. You save a baby’s life when you show an ultrasound image to a mom. And she usually accepts Jesus as a savior too. Problem is it costs money for these ultrasound images. And that’s where you folks come in. We’re asking you in the audience right now, will you pay for ultrasound images? You can do this one of two ways, either A, Buy an ultrasound machine. They’re 15 grand a piece. It’s a nice tax write-off for you. It gets placed in a pro-life center, and you get to go to bed every night knowing you are responsible for stopping thousands and thousands of abortions year after year. Now, a lesser version of this is pay for an individual number of ultrasound images. $28 is the average ultrasound expense to stop one abortion. So how many abortions will you stop? Take $28 times fill in the blank. pray about a number. That’s your gift to pre-born. And if you’ve given already, give again. We need you folks to keep on giving. Let’s stop these abortions, save babies’ lives. And remember, 100% of what you give to pre-born goes to the ultrasounds, not a penny for overhead. That’s all covered by private donors. Here’s how you give. Go right now to CrawfordMediaGroup.net, click on Preborn, and you can give right there. CrawfordMediaGroup.net, click on Preborn. You can also call 24-7 and give over the phone, 833-850-BABY. That’s 833-850-BABY. Just mention National Crawford Roundtable when you call. We appreciate you supporting Preborn. We appreciate you supporting SunPowerLED, which, by the way, John, when I was at the church on the beach event with Neil and a bunch of other people there. Tom Kerber, the president and founder of SunPowerLED, was there. Great brother in Christ. Got to talk to him, get to know him a little bit, and it’s just amazing the technology that he offers.
SPEAKER 02 :
It is, and it is second to none. For those of you that maybe have never studied red light, which I’ll be the first to tell you guys, I hadn’t until SunPower came along, had a conversation with Tom and myself. He sent a device so we could do some testing with it and check it out, and I’ll tell you, my wife and I use it on a pretty routine basis. In fact, you guys are going to laugh at this, Bob. So, uh, my dog, my Labrador retriever, he has a spot that because of an allergy or something that I think we’ve got dialed in, he had basically rubbed his entire coat, you know, his, his, his hair off of a place on his face. And he had it to the point where it’s just raw and red and bleeding at times. We have actually, my wife, she cracks me up. You used it on your dog. She’s actually been using red light therapy on the dog to get that wound healed, and it’s actually working, Bob. I’m not surprised. So you guys out there might be laughing at me, but that just shows you the power of this device. It works. We have a handheld device. They make multiple devices depending upon what you want to do, and I would encourage you. Go check it out. Go to CrawfordMediaGroup.net. Go look for SunPowerLED. Use roundtable10. Get a 10% discount. And, yep, even if you want to use it on your dog, it’s safe. I guess the point there, Bob, is it’s safe to use on anybody, including dogs. That’s right.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, hey, look, bottom line, if it reduces inflammation, if it eases pain, if it gets down to the cellular level and heals people in these powerful kind of ways, it doesn’t surprise me at all that it would help your pet, too. So, hey, dogs, cats, you name it.
SPEAKER 02 :
I laugh at that, but you know what? It works. So back to the bad brain article, and this is where I talked about it on my on my program and where it was such a to me kind of an enlightening thing, because, you know, we talk about all the time, Bob, about why does our side, you know, do some of the things that it does? I mean, even I hate to bring it up again because we’ve talked about it three or four times now in the podcast. But the whole Epstein thing in regards to the files and so on. And again, I want to make sure I remind everybody by no means. is Neil, Bob, or I, any one of the three of us saying that people shouldn’t be prosecuted over taking advantage of young ladies, especially, but young people in general, period, minors. I mean, we would never, ever, ever condone any such behavior. And if there’s ever something that can be done to either protect kids and or keep those that, you know, have those that are responsible for this atrocity, go to prison for doing so, we are absolutely in favor of that. So we are by no means giving anybody a pass. But I think what we’re saying is the problem with this whole situation is when it happened, the chain of custody, who’s had all of the files, who’s had all of the records. The reality is it’s a nightmare at this point, but it’s something Bob, that certain people just won’t let go of certain people on our side. And this is just one example. I’ve got multiples that I could go through, but Bob, to me, this goes back to the whole bad brain article. This article talks about how it’s like your brain addicted to drugs. In fact, your brain scans show it’s no different than being addicted to a drug. And I think sometimes, Bob, a lot of times, our side is so revengeful, they want blood from the other side almost at all costs to where they become fixated on something. They will not let it go. And this article explains why. Right.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, and I do have to… I don’t know if I would call this pushing back, but I want to contextualize what you’re saying because I completely agree with you. I do. All right. When you talk about our side, we’ll say in the political realm, I guess, certainly political conservatives, if you will, for people who vote, people that tend to vote for Donald Trump, we’ll say, but also just born-again believers. Yeah. Yes, there are Christians or are conservatives that have this desire to we just want to get the left and make them pay. OK, you know, let’s expose the Epstein file liberals that are in there. All right. That is not healthy. That is not godly. Make people pay for crimes that they committed. Absolutely. But I got to say, John, the kind of. vitriolic, hate, revenge-minded, I’m going to make those people pay, that is way, way, way more prevalent on the left than it is the right. I’m not saying it doesn’t exist on the right, and I’m not justifying it at all.
SPEAKER 02 :
But it is just so prevalent on the left.
SPEAKER 03 :
I mean, look at what they did with Donald Trump. Even after he, quote unquote, lost in 2020, they still, it’s like, well, we’re going to impeach him after he’s out of office because they just, they want to make him pay and his supporters pay for the conservative things that he did, the conservative judges and such. So I just see this kind of-
SPEAKER 02 :
only in reverse. And I’m not talking about everybody that’s on the right, Bob, or every conservative, but I do think there’s a portion of our side. And some of those, by the way, that continue to drag up some of these things that frankly, I think we should move on from talk about things that really matter, concentrate on the things that we can actually get some wins in. This is politics. This isn’t, this isn’t the spiritual realm. I mean, I get it. Spirit spirituality involves everything, but when it comes to politics and, It is different. You have to have some different strategies and things when it comes to politics and winning, or you’re not going to regain the power that you need to even make some of the changes that we all want made. There has to be some strategy involved. And when you have this this vengeful, revengeful attitude towards the other side, which I understand where it comes from. The problem, Bob, is then you lose all sense of strategy and how to actually win moving forward. That’s my point.
SPEAKER 03 :
And it’s a very good point because you cannot lose sight of the necessary strategy in winning this. If you just get overcome by emotion, emotion’s a good thing. God created emotion, all right? But emotions can lie to you, and they can also cloud out your higher reasoning, your judgment, and your objectivity.
SPEAKER 02 :
To your point, let me give everybody an example. And I’ll probably get criticism of this, but do I believe in the 2020 there were some very nefarious things that happened in that election? Absolutely. Do I think it’s one single thing that caused that election to go the way it did? No. I think there were multiple factors, including now we’re figuring out with Obama and Russiagate and all of that. Multiple things were going on at that time. Was it all just Dominion voting and the machines? No. Was it just stuffing the ballot boxes in certain places? No. In other words, Bob, I think there were multiple factors involved in all of that. And I think even the laptop from Hunter Biden, you and I have talked about this before, I think that had as much to do with things as probably anything At the end of the day, though, do I feel like there were some nefarious things in the 2020 election? Absolutely. The problem, though, is even Donald Trump got into this trap for three to four years. All everybody fixated on, including the midterms in 2022, was literally the steal, the steal, the steal, the steal, the steal to the point. We lost some real critical elections, some even here in Colorado, because of that mindset, because we were so fixated on the steal. We forgot how to win, Bob.
SPEAKER 03 :
And by the way, that is a very fair point to make. And let me just tell you right now, John, I will go to my grave convinced, unless I see evidence otherwise, that yes, the election was stolen from Donald Trump in 2020 by a lot of different factors. There are many pieces to that pie. Certainly media bias is one of them, the Hunter Biden laptop story. I do believe that there was fraud and ballot stuffing as well. All these things combined stole the election. Now we have to ask ourselves, what do we do with it? OK, do we move forward and just accept the fact that it was a robbery and then move on because there’s other things to address? Yes, we need to do that because otherwise we run the risk of becoming Ahab chasing his whale. And before you know it, we don’t get anything accomplished. We just end up dying tied to the whale. And so… The whale is legitimate. The whale is deadly. The whale took his leg. OK, the 2020 election was stolen. It was all that kind of stuff. It’s true that actually really happened. But if we if we go Ahab and we refuse to move forward from this, then we’re just going to be drowned by that very whale that took our leg. And I think that’s what a lot of the right. has done. I’m not minimizing the severity of what happened in 2020. I’m just saying there’s a lot more for us to accomplish right now, and it’s better to win in the long run than to die on a hill that isn’t going to get us future victory.
SPEAKER 02 :
That’s where this article for me came into play, Bob, because I was reading that article. I’m thinking to myself, because I’ve got people, listeners even, that I could talk to enough where I could point to and say, you are being affected. Your thought process and your rationale is being affected by the very article itself. that we were talking about. You’re so dead set on revenge for the other side that you’re losing sight of what it actually takes to now win elections moving forward, which by the way, if you want to make real change is the only way we’re going to make change. I’m sorry to tell everybody, Bob, we’re not going to go back and fix what happened in 2020. That election is done. It’s over. It’s history. We’ve now had another presidency since Donald Trump is now back in office. Reality is it is what it is. And to talk about it any further, is absolute lunacy we need to fix what happened which by the way you you you saw in the last election a lot of stuff had gotten fixed you know thankfully states and others had done all sorts of things to shore up their election system and so on and is it perfect bob it never will be we are you know we are fallen men that are going to cheat steal lie and do everything we possibly can to win anytime we have a chance to and yes the other side will do that far more than we will But at the end of the day, Bob, is there ever going to be a fair and honest election? Not in my lifetime.
SPEAKER 03 :
Not 100 percent. Fair note. Now, I do have to say and I want to make sure to throw in this caveat and maybe a little bit of the devil’s advocate, because I do believe that there are people in our audience that are thinking that are still focused on the 2020 election and trying to prove that it was in fact stolen. that are saying it’s not fair for you to categorize me as a revenge-seeking Ahab. All I want to do is keep this kind of thing from happening again and hold those who committed this to account. They need to be held accountable for this. It needs to be exposed. And we need to make sure that this kind of thing, at least on this kind of scale, doesn’t happen again. And if we just move on too quickly and sweep it under the rug, the left knows they can get away with this election after election.
SPEAKER 02 :
But we haven’t, Bob.
SPEAKER 03 :
That’s the counterargument they’re going to say, but I do want to give you a fair chance to respond because I wanted to give that devil’s advocate position. I know some people don’t look at it that way.
SPEAKER 02 :
And I appreciate that. And my response would be, and we have. There’s all sorts of even nonprofit organizations out there that are working night and day, helping different states and organizations along these lines. I interview them, so do you, Bob, on a continual basis. So the reality is, folks, we are. That voice has been heard. Your voice has been heard. And the other thing that I would say to do for all of you that feel that way, which we all do, next time any election comes up, even in the midterms, be a poll watcher. Be there to help. Be a part of the system. Don’t just be out there complaining that the last one didn’t go well. Get involved and be a part of what’s happening so you can pay attention to these things. And make sure that it doesn’t happen again. Bob, that’s the answer. And that’s not being fixated on anything. That’s just common sense saying we want to make sure that elections moving forward are fair and honest to the best of our ability, which, by the way, I am all for. My point is you cannot be so fixated on one single thing and have that revengeful attitude towards it, because when you do that, it affects your judgment.
SPEAKER 03 :
You know, one of the harsh realities, this is one of the most bitter pills to swallow in all of life, and that is injustice being allowed to stand. All right. There is a measure of injustice in that a lot of the liberal left that did commit fraud and the dishonest media that affected the election, they did condemn. kind of get away with it. Not completely, but they kind of got away with it. This is not something in the history books where the 2020 election is going to be written of as having been stolen. It’s not going to be written that way. And so there is a certain sense of swallowing the bitter pill of saying, we’re not going to be able to convince everybody. We’ve got certain people we’ve been able to convince, and then that’s it. And so let’s move on off of this. If you ask me, do I believe the 2020 election was stolen? I’m going to say, yes, I do. Am I hyper-focused on it? No, I’m not. Because there’s a lot of other really important hills that we can take. And what’s that old saying, right? To fight the battles you can win. And if there’s a battle that you can’t win, even if truth is on your side, if it’s a battle that you can’t win, move to a battle that you can win. Sometimes you just have to do that and you have to accept losses, even unjust losses.
SPEAKER 02 :
I guess maybe for me, Bob, some of where I look at some of this comes from, and you could probably understand this because of your background, and I’m not trying to put myself above anyone, but when you’re a business owner and a parent and you do these things on a routine basis, I think like Donald Trump, you’re constantly negotiating and looking for the wins. I mean, as an owner, am I always going to win, quote-unquote, with every single employee and every decision that gets made regarding whatever it might be, customer service-wise, etc.? ? I mean, at the end of the day, Bob, no, you pick the battles that you know you can win. And there’s some things at times, even with employees, where you just sit back and say, OK, you know what? That one’s not worth fighting. Off we go. Let’s move on. And some of you would say, well, what do you mean? You’re just going to let your employees run all over you? No, that’s not what I’m saying. But you have to have reality because if you rule with an iron fist, Bob, no one would work for you. So at the end of the day, you do have to have some compromise at times. and figure things out. So at the end you win. And that’s the one thing that I don’t think our side has yet figured out. You have to learn where those certain compromises are not in our values, not in our principles, but how do you compromise enough to still win at the end of the day? Cause that’s how you poke the other side in the eye.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. And compromise is not a bad word depending on how it’s used. Compromise can be wrong, but compromise can be good, right, smart, and shrewd. Compromise is wrong if you’re compromising principles and values. Correct. I’m not going to do that. But compromise is smart and shrewd if you give up some things first. for a greater gain. Okay. You talk as a businessman, right? Well, I used to own a chain of retail clothing stores. All right. And so everybody understands the concept of loss leaders. All right. There are things that I would sell that I would advertise for a loss. Right. And there’s nothing unethical about this. It’s just shrewd business. You lure people into your store with loss leaders. Okay. And then while they’re there, maybe they’ll buy some other merchandise instead of just that one thing. People do this all the time. It’s an investment. When you invest money, you just depleted your bank account, but it’s for the purpose of hoping that you get a gain and a return back stronger than what you just lost. So there are certain things we need to recognize in politics that this is a losing message. We’re right, but I may have the right of way walking across the street, but if I don’t jump out of the way of that bus, I’m going to be laying there in the hospital in a full body cast going, yeah, but I had the right of way. Jump out of the way of the bus. I mean, I hate to say it, but sometimes you got to, look, how many times have people cut us off on the road? We’re in the right. They’re in the wrong. Okay. But you know what you do? You swerve anyway and you let them go past. Otherwise you get in a head-on collision. Yeah, but I was in the right. So no, politically, we’re letting ourselves get in a head-on collision if we hyper-focus on things that are just going to cause us to lose the battle.
SPEAKER 02 :
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SPEAKER 03 :
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SPEAKER 02 :
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