Join Neil Boron, Bob Duco, and John Rush for an engaging discussion on the recent military actions by the U.S. and Israel against Iran. The hosts delve into the political and ideological implications of these events, questioning Iran’s nuclear ambitions and exploring the historical impact that such a military decision could have on the Middle East and the world. Listen in as they critique the public reactions and emphasize the stark divide in U.S. political perspectives. The episode also tackles significant domestic issues, including Colorado’s status as a sanctuary state and the controversy surrounding the U.S. Supreme Court’s ruling
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SPEAKER 03 :
Welcome to another edition of the National Crawford Roundtable Podcast. My name is Neil Boron, and I’m the host of Neil Boron Live on WDCX Radio in Buffalo, New York. Joining me, as always, the esteemed Bob Duco, host of The Bob Duco Show on WMUZ in Detroit, and the legendary John Rush of Rush to Reason on KLZ in Denver. You’ve given up all credibility.
SPEAKER 04 :
Use words like esteemed and legendary. You just lost all credibility.
SPEAKER 02 :
Come on, man.
SPEAKER 03 :
John’s a legend in my own mind anyway, you know. Give credit where credit’s due. It’s not like we don’t have much to talk about this week with the bombing happening in Iran, and we are going to spend probably a majority of our time talking about that. Bob, just before the podcast you brought up, Something interesting we can touch on for a moment has to do with what’s going on in Denver right now related to ice. And John, is Colorado actually like a full fledged sanctuary state or whatever? Apparently the mayor there doesn’t want ice in town.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, I mean, that’s the Denver mayor, not the governor, of course. But no, pretty much the state is, I think, if you were to talk to, I mean, we’re a very deep blue state. And yeah, we pretty much are a sanctuary state, and the city itself is very much a sanctuary city. And I said this the other day on air, you know, Mike Johnston, who’s the Denver mayor, you know, he’s just pulling a big political stunt. He’s got, you know, a political… you know, yearnings long after he’s done with being mayor of Denver. So this is nothing more than one, you know, political stunt. He knows there’s no teeth to this. He cannot tell federal agents what they can or cannot do by any stretch of the imagination. It’s laughable at best. But, you know, he made national news and that’s what he wanted because that’s what he wants to, you know, further his political career.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah. Bob, I don’t know what it is with the mayors, but even in, you know, with what was going on in Minneapolis, the mayor there was sticking his neck out pretty far. It just seems like if you’re a Democrat, you have to oppose ICE at every turn, even though their job is to simply uphold federal law. But I don’t know if there’s anything like this going on in Detroit, but, you know, it’s…
SPEAKER 04 :
Not as bad, but it’s still a ridiculous joke. These very same Democrats had no problem with ICE following the very same law enforcement procedures when Democrats were in charge of the White House during Barack Obama’s eight years. His ICE agents were following the very same procedures, many of them are the very same ICE agents, that they are now. The difference is, if you have people resist arrest, if you have people fight you, if you have people refuse to get out of a car, if you have people attack you and throw things at you, there are police procedures to this. You arrest them, you detain them, you take them down. And if they keep on fighting you, then you give resistance back to them, okay? The difference is during the Obama years, you didn’t have a bunch of Democrats, and certainly not Republicans, but you didn’t have politicians out there encouraging people to fight back against ICE, demonizing them, doxing them, encouraging doxing them and such. So ICE agents didn’t have to cover up their faces because there wasn’t an anti-ICE movement. There is now because Trump is president. It’s that simple.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, and I hope that those folks who are listening who maybe are concerned about what they’re hearing in the media and beginning to buy into the narrative that, you know, ICE is all about the big bad wolf and that they’re doing things that are illegal. No, they’re actually upholding federal law. They’re doing what American citizens voted for, and that is to round up illegal aliens and get them out of our country, particularly if they have criminal behavior attached to their names. But We’ll talk about that, I’m sure, more in the future. Something else that I want to touch on briefly before we get to what’s happening in Iran. The U.S. Supreme Court, I don’t think has issued really what would constitute a final ruling, but they put a stay on an injunction that applies to the state of California, something that happened in the state of California. which mandated, California has a gender secrecy policy that mandates that school staff literally hide a transgender identity or an attempt to switch genders from parents. So like if a child says, hey, look, I think I’m a boy, or I think I’m a girl, and they’re beginning to transition even verbally first, and then maybe with actual like gender mutilation surgery kind of stuff, that they have a right or they believe they have a right to hide this from parents. But the U.S. Supreme Court said no and upheld an injunction against California’s gender secrecy policy. I say amen to that. Basically, what they’re saying is parents’ rights matter. And I hope ultimately this leads to a decision that applies to all 50 states. But let me start real quick with John. Your thoughts on that?
SPEAKER 02 :
Amen. It should be happening, to your point, Neil, should be happening in all 50 states, not just there. This whole idea that teachers and counselors and so on can hide these things from parents and have parents literally in the dark is an absolute bunch of garbage, period.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah. Bob, I’ll throw it to you for a second here. But also, you know, Alliance Defending Freedom has been involved in this kind of stuff. In this particular case, I think it was the Thomas More Society working on behalf of teachers in the state who were afraid that. you know, that they’d face punishment if they refused to lie about a student’s gender identity. Like maybe, you know, the parents come in and say, is anything happening with my kids I should be concerned about? And they would, no, everything’s fine. It’s all perfect. Literally hiding this from parents. Ultimately, some of these children, at least one mentioned in the injunction or, you know, for whom the injunction was originally issued eventually ended up considering suicide this was a student it was really it was actually an attempted suicide right yeah attempted and and the parents were completely in the dark bob how i mean that doesn’t even it doesn’t make sense at all i think it’s demonic in nature and i think that the american people need to wake up to understand this is really going on but anyway your thoughts about this ruling
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, yeah. First of all, it is just a stay. So it’s not a ruling on the merits of the case. But the Supreme Court in their majority ruling, the six to three ruling, basically said, we expect, we anticipate that the parents are going to prevail in this. And so in the meantime, we can’t be denying parents the right to be involved in what’s happening with their children. You know, I’ll tell you, Neil, I look at things like this and to really go political on this, okay, between the Republicans and the Democrats, let’s face it, okay, the Democrats overwhelmingly, close to 100%, are on one side, and the Republicans, close to 100%, are on the other side. This is a classic example of the divide in politics in America today, yet you still have a good fourth to a third of people calling themselves evangelical Christians who vote Democrat. This is the stuff that they’re supporting. And I’m trying to imagine 20 years ago, even 10 years ago, that we’d be having an actual serious discussion about the Supreme Court would have to decide whether or not parents have a right to know that their children are being gender transitioned behind their back with secrets being kept with teachers. And we’ve got to remember, too, the only reason that this thing passed… OK, is because Donald Trump was president instead of Hillary Clinton. If Hillary Clinton had won in 2016, we wouldn’t have Neil Gorsuch. We wouldn’t have Brett Kavanaugh. We wouldn’t have Amy Coney Barrett. We’d still have Roe v. Wade. And this really would have gone the other way.
SPEAKER 03 :
It’s shocking. It’s scary. We’ll keep an eye on it, obviously. But sort of a tip of the hand of sorts from the U.S. Supreme Court, assuming that parents would prevail in a case like this if it goes further. And let’s pray that it does. Parents’ rights need to be upheld. You know, we can’t talk about these kind of things without the support of our parents. our ministry and advertising partners. And one of our major sponsors is an organization called SunPower LED, and they’re the makers of light therapy. You might say, well, what is that? Well, it’s not pharmaceuticals. It’s not surgical intervention. But when you’ve got a problem with pain of just about any kind, arthritis, pain, migraines, joint pain, Some people with vision problems or tinnitus, epilepsy and seizures, back and neck pain, knee pain, plantar fasciitis. You know, you say, well, this isn’t going away. I don’t know. What else can I do? Well, the very light God himself created can be used to heal your body. I’m not kidding. The light God created certain wavelengths of red and near infrared light can be harnessed to through light. You know, this light therapy procedure, fancy term is photobiomodulation. But SunPower LED has developed affordable devices that go way beyond anything you could get on the Internet. I mean, if you buy something off Amazon, it’s a Mickey Mouse toy compared to what SunPower LED can offer you. But high-powered light that gets into the body to the cellular level and begins to heal your body from the inside out by reducing pain and swelling. If you want to learn about it, go to CrawfordMediaGroup.net. Click on SunPowerLED. If you buy something, use the promo code ROUNDTABLE10 to save yourself 10%. But definitely worth looking into. Light therapy from SunPowerLED. One of our other sponsors, Bob, of course, are our friends at Preborn. Absolutely.
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SPEAKER 02 :
Israel and some of our bases that are nearby and things like that. I think the other rumor that’s floating around, and I have not verified this, but the other rumor floating around is that some of the meetings that we were having with Iran, we agreed to give them non-weapon grade nuclear material so they could run power plants and so on. And we would supply that to them indefinitely, providing they do their part. And the reality is, no, they turned that down because we all know they want their own bomb. They want that nuclear capability. They’ve wanted it for quite some time. They still want it now. It ain’t going to happen now. The reality is there’s not a lot of things that are going to happen now because their entire leadership team was decimated. That’s what started everything in the first place. And I was just reading a few minutes ago that we’ve pretty much now, it sounds like by the end of today, Israel have control of all the airspace. We’ve taken out the majority, I think all of their Navy at this point in time. We sunk one of their largest ships last night, I believe, or yesterday, I should say the Soleimani, I think is what they call it. So the reality is, You know, Iran will be decimated when this is all said and done. And I know President Trump has said that, you know, this is going to be four to six weeks. I’ve said on air, give it 30 days at most. In fact, I think at the end of 30 days, it’ll be more cleanup, probably two weeks of major battle going on, which you’re seeing right now. But frankly, guys, maybe even after a week, I’m not sure what happens. I’m not sure what Iran’s going to have left. They do have a lot of drone capability and things like that, so it’s not going to be super easy as far as that goes. But we will just continue to decimate them. And it was a bad move on their part. I know we’ll get into more details on this, but this is a bad move on their part, bad move on China’s part, bad move on Russia’s part as well.
SPEAKER 03 :
I think it was inevitable, though. I mean, it’s part of their ideology, ultimately. In fact, I was reading an article by Victor Davis Hanson, who comments for Daily Signal or whatever. And he was talking about the supernatural view they have of what’s going to happen and that they believe they’re on the right side of i think you use the term cosmic divinity that this is more than this isn’t just like a government decision it’s just not about the welfare of iran as a nation it’s about spiritual things and i mean radical islam ultimately wants to do away with the west and western thinking and christianity and Israel, you know, the U.S. being the great Satan, Israel being the little Satan, but they have to be obliterated. And if they’re publicly stating, we want to wipe Israel and the United States off the map, and if we get the chance, we’re going to do it. Bob, I don’t know how you negotiate ultimately with people like that, but what are your thoughts about the war that’s begun here, the bombing at least in Iran?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, first of all, as far as what you’re saying about the religious component of this, I mean, yeah, Iran is a Shia nation. They practice Shia Islam. And they believe in this 12th Imam, the Mahdi, that is going to return someday. And the way to usher in the return of the Mahdi is to have Armageddon. And so they… they really don’t mind ideologically creating a nuclear holocaust in the world. They don’t mind because they feel that that ushers in the 12th imam. But look, this was a necessary thing to do, okay? Iran is the number one state sponsor of terrorism in the world, actively trying to pursue a nuclear bomb. What would they do with that nuclear bomb? I mean, come on. Here’s what we got to remember about Trump. And Trump is a bold guy. We know that. He is a risk taker. He always was in private life, and he certainly is in the White House as well. But think about the payoff here if this is successful. Now, a vacuum has been created in the leadership. Who’s going to take over? What kind of a rant are we going to have after the fact? I don’t know. There’s reports now, unconfirmed reports, that Ayatollah Khomeini’s son is going to be filling the vacuum and he might be just as radical. So, okay, that could be. But if this is a thing where Iran starts joining the civilized world and some kind of new government, let alone if Trump decides to back the Kurds and possibly have an overthrow in Iran, but when the dust settles, if Iran… It goes back to a nation that they were before 1979 where we actually have a U.S. embassy there where we can actually be trade partners with them, where there can actually be tourism to Iran. And they’re no longer the number one state sponsor of terrorism in the world. Think about the historic impact. nature of that, that before Trump, you have Iran for what we’ve known it’s been since 1979. And after Trump, Iran is just another one of the Middle Eastern nations that we’re working with. I mean, if that’s how this finishes when the dust settles, I don’t know how Democrats can continue to say that Donald Trump is such a horrible president. So I mean, it’s very huge taking on Iran. But I believe this was the right thing to do, and it’s got the potential for a majorly historic positive outcome, not just in the Middle East, but for the entire world.
SPEAKER 03 :
I think what’s amazing is you see protests in the U.S., anti-Trump protests, saying this was an unprovoked attack. I mean, he just killed 30,000 protesters in Iran, the late Ayatollah Khomeini.
SPEAKER 04 :
And they’ve killed Americans over the decades.
SPEAKER 03 :
Over the 47 years. Iran is responsible.
SPEAKER 04 :
I know. They’ve killed Americans in various different places, okay, throughout the decades, not to mention, of course, how many Jews in Israel have been killed through their proxies in Hamas and Hezbollah. So, you know. Come on.
SPEAKER 03 :
It’s interesting to see the legacy media, though, isn’t doing a lot with these, you know, celebrations really is what they are. They’re not protests. They’re celebrations from Iranian-Americans or Iranians living around the world going out in the streets saying, you know, giving praise to Donald Trump and the United States for their action.
SPEAKER 04 :
Doing the Trump dance. Doing the Trump dance.
SPEAKER 03 :
Exactly.
SPEAKER 04 :
A lot of them are. They’re videotaped doing the Trump dance.
SPEAKER 03 :
You got to believe that Democrats, liberal progressives are seething looking at that. I mean, they certainly don’t want the American public to ever really pay attention to it. But, John, this I mean, number one, it had to happen. Number two, I really think that if it hadn’t. that Iran could not be trusted to just mind their own business, that their whole mentality and ideology has to do with destroying Israel, destroying the U.S., so that they can destroy everything else in the world that doesn’t support radical Islam. Very dangerous mentality there amongst the ultra-conservative Shia Muslim leadership. I mean, it’s scary what was going on. And the U.S. had to act on that.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, no, I agree. And one thing I’m always careful of too is, you know, Islam and, you know, what these folks believe in is it’s not a religion. And I think sometimes, you know, we tend to call it that because we think that they’re worshiping, you know, a God and doing things similar to, you know, Christianity or, you know, even some of the other, you know, religions that are out there. And the reality is they’re not. It’s a political ideology. It is not a religion. I think we… We do other religions a disservice by calling that one that because there’s no other religion out there that wants to decimate everybody else on planet Earth besides the folks that believe the way they do. So it is not a religion. In fact, I think we should have made some changes long ago on the religious status of Muslims. And I know people are going to be mad at me. You can send me a direct email if you want. I really don’t care. At the end of the day, it’s not a religion. It’s a political ideology. We give them religious protections and we shouldn’t be because, again, it’s not a religion. And yes, Neil and Bob, both this was something that we had to act on. And again, I know we’ll get into more of this, but the ramifications even for China and Russia, given the fact that they are really the sponsors of of these guys as well. Keep in mind, a lot of the armament that we’re fighting against has come from Russia and China as well. Right.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, and Bob, you mentioned, well, I think I said 47 years, but you were talking about their involvement in terror across the world. They are major funders of Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houthis in Yemen. This is a fanatical group of people that are intent on ultimately destroying the world. It’s part of their ideology. And John, I appreciate you bringing up that it’s not legitimately like a, quote, religion in that sense. But, you know, Bob, I was thinking about the idea that John mentioned drones earlier. One of the articles I read said that they have like thousands of drones. And of course, they have thousands of missiles. And Iran is a huge country geographically. So how many hidden missile sites or drone, you know, warehouses and hangars underground do they have all around the country? And that Iran might try to prolong this war, something Donald Trump obviously wouldn’t want. So, I mean, it could get sticky down the road if they’re continuing to hit U.S. military bases or something with drone activity down the road or missile launches. I’m not sure, but either one. I mean, there’s a potential here that it might not be over in three weeks or a month like we were talking about earlier. Do you have any thoughts on that?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I’m kind of with John on this. I’d be surprised if this thing went more than a month. And I only say that because whoever the new leadership is, let’s say it’s not a successful overthrow from the Kurds or from the people of Iran. to rise up. Let’s say it’s still somewhat the old regime, kind of like what you have in Venezuela, but on a smaller scale. You didn’t get Machado and a new group in there. You still have the core leadership, but that core leadership in Venezuela is like, all right, well, we better sit up straight and play by the rules and play nice with the United States. And so it could very well be a thing. I think this is probably going to happen where even if you have some radical people like Khomeini’s son who takes over, they’re going to sit up and take notice and realize we are completely decimated here. And I think there’s going to come a point when Trump’s people are going to say to the new leadership in Iran, you ready for us to take our foot off your neck? All right. We will stop the missile firing. If you stop your drone attacks, but I’m telling you right now, if we see one drone attack, if we sound like the godfather now, Marlon Brando, if they’re hit by a bolt of lightning, okay, anything happens, then that’s it. We’re coming at you, okay, with Fists of Fury round two. And it’s going to be, so Trump’s style with everybody in private life and in politics, Trump’s style is there is no middle of the road with me. We are either going to be your best friends forever. to help you, or we’re going to be your worst enemies to destroy you. That’s your choice. And so I see Trump saying to the new Iranian leadership, you want to work together? If you can, we’ll actually even put together a coalition to help you rebuild internally. Here are the rules. Here are the guidelines you have to follow. Violate them, and we go back to turning you into a smoking crater. We’ll be your best friends, or we’ll be your worst enemies. That’s how Trump works, and I think that’s what Iran needs to hear.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, we got about 30 seconds. John, you agree?
SPEAKER 02 :
Not fully. It’s exactly what we need to do and do it quickly. And by the way, I think he’ll do that. Now, again, back to what you guys are saying. Who ends up being in leadership when this is all said and done? That is yet to be known.
SPEAKER 03 :
All right, well, there’s a lot more to talk about with regard to what’s happening in Iran right now and the bombing that we did in coordination with the nation of Israel. Some people pushing back about that relationship. We may talk about it, but we’ve got a moment here. I want to thank one of our major sponsors, SunPower LED. Some of you have heard about light therapy, might not know that the fancy medical term is photobiomodulation. It just means harnessing light getting it into the cellular level of the body so that it can excite the mitochondria in the cells to wake up and do what the mitochondria were designed to do. And so that the cell can function in a healthy and proper way. And when it does, guess what happens? Healing occurs in our body because we were created to heal by the creator, the one who made light in the first place. And, you know, there’s been a lot of support for RFK Jr.’ ‘s nomination to be secretary of health and human services recently. because people are getting tired of big pharma and realizing that medications require more medications to deal with the effects of the first medications. And some people are very concerned for good reason about surgical intervention. But yeah, light therapy from SunPower LED provides a natural, healthy way to make sure that your body is functioning at peak performance. And you can learn all about it by going to CrawfordMediaGroup.net, click on SunPower LED. When you do, and if you order any products, use the promo code ROUNDTABLE10. And you’ll save 10% just because you’re a listener to the National Crawford Roundtable. Again, it’s CrawfordMediaGroup.net. Our other major sponsor is Preborn. And Bob, the folks at Preborn are doing an incredible job saving innocent human lives. And our listeners have done an incredible job supporting them in it. That’s right.
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Thanks for joining us here for the National Crawford Roundtable Podcast. Bob Duco, host of the Bob Duco Show on WMUZ in Detroit, is one of our panelists today. John Rush, host of Rush to Reason on KLZ in Denver, joining us as well. My name’s Neil Boron, host of Neil Boron Live on WDCX Radio in Buffalo. And we gather once a week to talk about important issues that are affecting families, affecting Americans. We try to do it from a biblical perspective. And talk about news, analyze what’s happening. So you get a clearer picture of what’s happening in our world, but also so that you can, uh, serve and act more effectively as a believer and as an American. Wow. The, the, the bombing of Iran, we knew it was likely to come. And then there’s the side of you that says, well, I hope it doesn’t have to happen, but it did. And, and I think it was the proper move on the part of Donald Trump to take preemptive action. By the way, he did say that he believed they were going to attack first. I’m not sure if, about that statement, but I do believe we needed to attack first. John, your thoughts about that? Do you have any disagreement with the president?
SPEAKER 02 :
These are things that, again, none of us have any inside knowledge. These are things that they talk about in… behind closed doors. And quite frankly, the average American, in my opinion, doesn’t need to know these are things that our security forces need to know and understand and what potentially is coming. And I think we’ve said it many times, if the average American knew everything that was going on in these types of areas, they’d never leave their home. So there’s times where it’s just best to not tell the rest of the world what’s going on. Now, in the case of Trump and Congress and so on. We’ll get into some of that. My feeling on what Trump’s doing right now is when you have politicians, many of who you cannot trust with anything whatsoever, knowing they’re going to leak it out immediately as soon as they hear about it. Yeah, you’re not going to tell them anything until you’re far into what’s going on, which I, you know, I admire Trump for doing that because the reality is if you tell any of the people that are against him, reality is this gets out and it ruins the whole operation. So, you know, did it need to happen? Did it happen exactly it was supposed to? I think given the fact that the entire leadership team, and I was watching a video this morning on how that actually worked and how Israel actually took out that team and us and them working collectively together to know where they were at that time, what level they were at in their bunker system and so on. I mean, to me, it’s fascinating that we had that much detail on what they were doing. And yeah, the fact of the matter is we struck at exactly the opportune time and it worked.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, Bob, if we if this goes beyond like three weeks, you know, a relatively brief encounter with Iran and if we can utterly decimate their nuclear capability and all that in just a few days or a few weeks, probably isn’t going to be an issue. But if it gets protracted in any kind of way and if U.S. troops end up putting boots on the ground, does Donald Trump have the authority to do that without some type of war powers vote in Congress?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, we’re talking about the length of time here, which matters. As far as boots on the ground, I’d be very shocked if Trump committed boots on the ground. He just does not seem like that kind of a guy. But no, the law is that if a president launches military strikes, you have 48 hours to notify Congress. So he didn’t even have to tell Congress until 48 hours afterward. And then the law is that if you commit the U.S. to military action beyond 60 days, then you have to get Congress to approve an extended military action beyond 60 days. Now, if you’re going to officially declare war, that takes Congress to declare war, not the president. Here’s what people need to understand, okay, that declaring war always involves military action. But military action does not always involve a declaration of war. There is such a thing as military strikes that are not considered a declaration of war. And presidents do that all the time. And if I can get myself on a little bit of a rant here for a second, it makes my eye twitch when I see these Democrats and their fake outrage about Donald Trump didn’t go through Congress. How dare he do this on his own? He’s acting like a dictator. Just a little bit of history reminder for people, okay? Joe Biden launched military strikes in Syria in 2021 and 2024 without congressional approval, and nobody claimed he was violating the Constitution. He launched military strikes in Iraq in 2024, in Yemen in 2024. Barack Obama launched military strikes in Syria in 2014, in Iraq in 2014, in Libya in 2011 to cause the ousting and overthrow of Muammar Gaddafi at the time without going through Congress. And by the way, while we’re at it, Bill Clinton launched military strikes without Congress in Iraq in 1993, then again in 96, again in 98, again in 99. Bosnia in 1995, Sudan in 1998, Afghanistan in 1998, Somalia in 1993, Haiti in 1994. None of those involved a declaration of war. None of those involved approval by Congress. So This notion that Donald Trump somehow is violating the Constitution because you can’t launch military strikes, that’s the same thing as declaring war, and that’s Congress’s job. This is fake outrage from the Democrats. They’re lying through their teeth, plain and simple. And by the way, here we’re talking about attacking the number one state sponsor of terrorism in the world who’s been responsible for the deaths of countless Americans over the decades. Give me a break.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, based on what Bob just said, John, I was going to ask, you know, do they think that the American people and voters are stupid? Well, I think the answer to that question is yes. My better question probably is to say, will American voters see through all this? Because what Bob is saying is 100 percent true. It’s factual. It’s U.S. history. You can read about it. You can look it up for yourself. That’s what happened under Obama and under Biden. So Donald Trump is well within his authority to do what he’s doing. But, you know, the legacy media wants to spin the narrative to make everybody believe and to be on the side of those who want everybody to believe that Donald Trump is the Antichrist and everything he does is wrong. What are your thoughts?
SPEAKER 02 :
The American people are not real bright. I’m sorry to say that’s by design. The Marxist movement has created a dumbing down of society over the past. I mean, Marxism has been here 100 years, but the past 50 plus, they’ve worked very, very hard from the college level all the way down even into preschool now. So they’re really brainwashing young people, social media. It’s not helping either. It drowns out what real reason is out there and real facts, by the way. A lot of what we’re talking about right now, even with what the president can do. I read yesterday just so much garbage, by the way, inaccuracy on what’s out there regarding what President Trump is doing right now. So to answer your question, Neil, no, I’m afraid that the American public are really ignorant. They don’t know the facts. They don’t know the Constitution. They don’t know how things work. They don’t even know, frankly, how to go look it up to determine what’s really right or wrong. They get all of their news off of, you know, wherever social media, et cetera, friends, people that frankly are very uninformed. And the only way we can overcome that, that I think, you know, the administration and the RNC can overcome that. And Bob and I talk about it a ton. You got to message properly now. What he did at the State of the Union, I think he messaged really well. But what’s happening right now, we have to message better. And I get it. You’re trying to fight a battle and move things forward and so on. But at the same time, you’ve got to understand that the average voter, as we head into the midterms, will not understand all the things that we’re talking about right now. And it’s just the three of us. I mean, the reality is we need far more than us talking about this to get people to understand what really is going on.
SPEAKER 03 :
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SPEAKER 03 :
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SPEAKER 04 :
Well, I don’t think there’s any doubt if this for some reason ended up being a stretched out quagmire that is still going on this fall, then yeah, I think that would certainly hurt Republicans because it would hurt any coattails that Donald Trump would have. I’d be very, very shocked if it dragged on like this. There’s going to come a point where Iran, the new people that are running Iran, are going to agree to a ceasefire. It’s really going to be that simple. And as I said before, Trump will make it clear to them, you do anything, I mean anything, if a tree accidentally falls and hits one of our soldiers, that’s it. We’re obliterating you again, okay? So don’t make a mistake. Don’t let some rogue drone accidentally fire because, you know, you’re going to get 500 missiles lobbed at you as a result. So I do believe that there’s going to be a ceasefire established. And my prediction is inside of 30 days, maybe not, but certainly inside of 60, but inside of 30 days, my guess is that there’s going to be announcement from Trump and from Hegseth that a ceasefire agreement has been reached with Iran. And here is what we’re doing as far as working together, a working partnership with each other to help the people of Iran to rebuild. I think Trump wants to do to Iran what his vision is in Gaza, which is let us be your friends, let us help you rebuild, and maybe we can even turn it into a tourist attraction.
SPEAKER 02 :
can that actually happen in iran john do you agree with what bob’s saying if you put the persians back in control yes it can in fact that’s exactly what needs to happen it needs to be put back into the control of the people that really are the majority there i think the other uh misunderstanding that most americans have is what the makeup of iran is like i think if you were to go pull most people on any street corner they would tell you that iran is made up of you know arab muslims and the reality is that is the minority Of individuals that are there and the oppression that’s been there now for the past, you know, almost 50 years that needs to change, need to put the Persians back in charge, eliminate all of the I hate to say this, but eliminate the radical Muslims that are there right now, put them in their place and put the right leadership in. And if you do that, then you can have exactly what Bob just said.
SPEAKER 04 :
Let me chime in here a second, John, because I’m curious what you think about this. And, Neil, you too. There’s talk that Trump is contemplating actually backing the Kurds in an effort and telling them, go ahead and overthrow. We’ll work with you guys if you can get control of this and actually kind of backing them. There’s news reports that Trump has actually spoken to two of the Kurdish leaders about this and that he’s contemplating, do we go ahead and feed you guys whatever resources you need to successfully carry out a coup? What do you think about that? And would this be like the old Reagan things of, oh, you’re backing the rebels in Nicaragua and that’s a bad thing to do? And How do we figure out how much involvement we give to helping an opposition topple a government in a coup?
SPEAKER 02 :
That’s a great question, and one I’d have to really think through. Not to say you caught me off guard, but I really haven’t thought much about that, and I think – you’d have to really be careful to make sure that whoever you back, you know, directs the country in the direction that what we’re talking about, where you can put it back to a free society, freely trade back and forth with them, you know, they could get rich off of oil again, you know, all sorts of things that they could do if they were given the right opportunity. And I think the only thing you have to be careful of is making sure you back the right people to make that happen. I get it. That’s what’s really hard in all of this. And I’m, by the way, I’m not the smartest guy in any room to tell you who that should be and how that gets done because it’s very difficult to tell another country what they should do. But I’ve got to believe there’s people internally that have some of these answers and know. And I would hope that by now we’re tapping into some of those individuals trying to figure out exactly what do we do to put the right people back in power.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, I’ll tell you what. The Kurds are – I mean they’re Sunni. They’re not Shia. They only make up about 10 percent of the population of Iran, which is about 90 million. But you know what? Sunnis are easier and more practical to work with. Saudi Arabia, for example, is a Sunni nation. About 85 percent of Islam in the Middle East is Sunni. So they’re just – they’re less radical than the Shiites.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, they understand the money sides of things, Bob. That’s the difference I think is they – They understand cash. I mean, if you look at Saudi Arabia, they want this thing done soon as possible because they want to go back to selling oil and making money because they got a lot of mouths.
SPEAKER 04 :
Dubai’s a bunch of Sunnis. Right. So we can work with them. We can work with the Sunnis. And that’s why it would be a good thing to turn Iran. But can you really do that when 90 percent, 85 to 90 percent of Iran are Shiites? Can you really get Sunni leadership in Iran? That would be a tough one.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, and Sunnis and Shia Muslims don’t really get along that well. I’m not sure that what you’re saying will actually happen, but as far as backroom deals and supporting rebel groups to overthrow governments and stuff, you mentioned Reagan and what was going on in Nicaragua and all that. The Contras and such, yeah. Right. I think that it’s not unheard of and probably happens way more than the average American knows. I think there’s a lot of stuff happening that we’re just simply not aware of. So I don’t know. I think that I think Trump is willing to try anything that he thinks legitimately will work. Not that he’s just he has no plan or that he’s just, you know. Throwing mud on the wall and hope it sticks kind of thing. I think that the there’s going to be a strong effort to support whatever group he thinks can take it from here. And look at what happened. I mean, you mentioned Venezuela. He’s supporting the second in command kind of thing. Like he hasn’t removed their government entirely. And what’s the name of the woman that, you know, is outside of Venezuela right now, but she actually won? Yeah, actually, no, not Machado. The woman that got the Nobel Prize and so forth that was elected in Venezuela?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, the one that got the Nobel Prize, I think her name is Machado. I’m trying to think of her first name.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, I’m blanking myself. But either way, I think Donald Trump will do whatever is necessary to stabilize the region for the future. And if that includes taking some people that are in lower levels of government right now in Iran, but are willing to work with the U.S. and with Iran. you know neighboring nations to to stabilize the region and create peace in that area i think he’s going to do it so i wouldn’t put anything past him let me ask you this real quick what about the possibility of retaliatory strikes now iran already is involved in shooting some missiles towards you Israel and towards our air bases. But what I’m talking about is we had open borders under Biden, thousands of people walking across the border. How do we know that some of them, you know, weren’t members of radical Islam and part of the same group that the Ayatollah was a part of and that are in the U.S. right now waiting to blow up coffee shops and shopping centers and those kind of things? Do you expect we’re going to see any kind of sleeper cell activity from radical Muslims that might be living in the U.S. right now?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, you do get that guy in Austin, Texas, who went into the bar and shot up people, killed three people. He was wearing a sweatshirt that said Property of Allah. And now his social media, they found – he said all kind of anti-Semitic things, anti-Christian things and such. And so they don’t know – police killed him. So we don’t know if he was – if he did this because of the killing of Khomeini or if it was – Probably that’s what it was. And so we could see some instances like that, I suppose.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, I think there’s concern because the government has said churches and synagogues need to beef up security. And I think because who knows who actually is here in the United States when you’ve got open borders and millions of people flooding across. John, I’d have some level of concern, and I think people ought to be very aware of their surroundings, not knowing what potentially could be cooking in our own country.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, my feeling on that is I don’t think it’s any different than it’s been in the past. You need to have your head on a swivel at all times, no matter what. I am not a fear mongerer, so I’m not going to push some of the other things that I think a lot of click baiters out there are pushing right now in regards to that. It doesn’t mean that something won’t happen, but I’ll be quite honest, guys. I am not changing anything I do on any given day. Am I going to be aware? I’m always aware of what’s going on around me. I am not going to change my life one iota.
SPEAKER 04 :
And by the way, how’d you like to live or how’d you like to work three miles up the road from Dearborn, Michigan, which is where I work.
SPEAKER 03 :
What’s happening there, Bob, real quick. What’s going on in Dearborn? Actually, not a lot, really.
SPEAKER 04 :
There’s kind of a – I think a wait and see type thing. I don’t really know how many Muslims in Dearborn are from Iran and what the connection to Iran is. But interestingly enough, it hasn’t really – resulted in a lot of big activity either way.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, we got to move quick, but I got one final question. I didn’t know if we’d get a chance to bring it up, but one argument here is that the Iranians were sort of pretending to negotiate with the U.S., not really telling the truth, not really making any serious decisions or covering any ground. about their future so that they could kind of wait it out and hopefully in the next election cycle get another joe biden or kamala harris and just continue on with business as usual like we got to get rid of donald trump or let him move along um any thoughts about that real quick john let me ask you oh
SPEAKER 02 :
I don’t have any thoughts on that. I’m sorry. Sorry, Neil. I really don’t.
SPEAKER 03 :
All right. Yeah, it’s an interesting idea, but I’m not sure there’s much merit to it. Bob, if you want to address that, but then we’re going to have to hear about pre-warn.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, well, no, absolutely. Well, I mean, I’m kind of with John here on this. I mean, I can’t really speak intelligently to that right now. I will say, though, that I do want to make sure that the thing I mentioned about Dearborn, Michigan, there’s not that much going on. No real surprise, you have had some of the imams that have coming out and condemned this. You did have a Dearborn mosque hold a memorial for Ayatollah Khomeini, referring to him as a martyr there. So, you know, let’s face it. You do have Muslims in America, unfortunately, that are sympathizing with Iran and basically treating the Sayatollah the same way that the Washington Post treated him. You know, oh, he’s got a nice smile and he’s like an uncle. So it makes my eye twitch a little bit, I guess. Tell us about pre-war. You know, Preborn is such a great group, a pro-life ministry that saves babies’ lives by showing ultrasound images of unborn babies to expectant moms. But it does take money to do this, right? Moms change your mind. If they’re thinking about an abortion, they change their mind if they see an image of their baby. The trick is getting them to see an image of their baby because it does cost money to operate these ultrasound machines. And that’s where you folks in the audience come in. If you’ve given a pre-born already, would you consider giving again? We just need to give, give, and keep on giving because as you do that, you continue saving babies’ lives, changing moms’ minds. $28 is the average ultrasound expense to stop one abortion to save one baby’s life. So pray about a number of babies’ lives that you’ll save. Take $28 times fill in the blank, That’s your gift to pre-born. And hey, we need some of you out there to buy ultrasound machines. They’re 15 grand a piece. It’s a great tax write-off for you. You’re stopping thousands of abortions over the years. But for everybody else, take $28 times fill in the blank. Pray about a number. And don’t forget, everything you give to pre-born, 100%, goes to fund ultrasounds. Nothing for overhead. That’s all covered by private donors. So you can call right now, 833-850-BABY. The answer to the phone is 24-7. So call 833-850-BABY. Just mention National Crawford Roundtable when you call. You can also give online at CrawfordMediaGroup.net. That’s CrawfordMediaGroup.net. Give right there and check out SunPowerLED while you’re at CrawfordMediaGroup.net. Neil?
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Episode 349-Iran, SCOTUS, and Virginia Gerrymandering