Join hosts Fred Williams and Doug McBurney on Real Science Radio as they take you on an exploratory journey through Alaska and Africa with special guest Mike Snavely. From the breathtaking scenery of the Alaska Safari, where autumn colors paint the tundra, to the majestic sights of Alaska’s snow-capped peaks and vibrant landscapes, this episode brings you closer to nature’s wonders. Delve into the science behind these natural formations as they discuss the global flood and climate change’s historical impact. The adventure doesn’t end there, as the journey continues to Africa. Uncover the beauty and challenges of an African
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Greetings to the brightest audience in the country. This is Real Science Radio. I’m Fred Williams.
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And I’m Doug McBurney. If you were with us last week, you saw the Southwest Safari with Mike Snavely. Fred, what have we got this week?
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Mike Snavely is back with us to present on the Alaska Safari. So for those who missed it, the Southwest Safari last week, you got to go back. It’s better if you watch it on YouTube as opposed to, you know, your Spotify or whatever your podcast is so that you can see the visual, just the beauty of nature and the safari that Mike did. Has. I think a couple times a year or one time a year, Mike, you go to the Southwest Safari and the parks you go through. It’s incredible. I’ve only heard good things about these. Mike’s a speaker who gets a lot of really good engagements. In fact, Mike, you’re going to be in Branson, Missouri. The middle of May. Highly encourage that. And you’ve got four sessions, right? Yes. Yeah. So, and we’ll provide a link to that conference. And we’ve got plenty of time to advertise. We’re going to try to be there also. Real Science Radio will also try to get a booth at this conference in Branson, Missouri. I believe it’s, I don’t have the exact dates, middle of May. And hopefully we’ll see you there. So, Mike, can you now take us to the Alaska Safari? Let us know, you know, how long this is, when you run it. Was it also spearheaded or spurred by the hydroplate theory?
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Yes, it is. As a matter of fact, this session is or I should say this safari is based on my program that I do called The Stricken Earth. which is all of the many things that make the Earth a stricken place. Earthquakes, volcanic activity, global climate change, all these things are directly related to the global flood. And Walt Brown is the one who opened up that whole thing for us. So since Alaska straddles the ring of fire around the Pacific, it’s a great place to go to do sessions and a great place to go to see some scenery.
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Mike, you just mentioned a term that for most conservatives is a dirty word, and that was global climate change. But I want to remind our audience that over the centuries, there have been ice ages that have not been healthy and good for people. Bad things happen during ice ages. Things don’t grow and people starve. I love the term a stricken earth. That’s really what it’s all about, isn’t it?
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Yeah, and it’s not just those things. It’s even issues related to, say, like asteroids and things like this. And the moon, it’s so stricken on the side that faces us. All these things are directly related to the global flood. And so, yeah, so climate change does happen. It goes up and down over the centuries. And what we’re seeing now is all related to the flood. And so we do four sessions on a cruise ship as part of this, and I’ll talk about that.
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Wow. All right. Well, let’s go ahead and dig in. You’ve got an Alaska Safari presentation. Yep. Just a brief one. I’ll just show you a few things.
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And again, when do you do this?
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This is always very late August into September. And the reason we do that is because it’s the end of the season. And it’s also especially because you have a better chance of seeing the color changes. It’s only a two-week thing. Their autumn up there is very short. And so the color is phenomenal. I’ll show you that. Okay, cool. All right. So should I go ahead and start? And this is when you start a trip like this, no matter what, whether you start in Anchorage or whether you start up in Fairbanks, you are up on the tundra. And in September, this is what it looks like. The colors are brilliant. And so the trip includes a three or four hour trip out onto the tundra where you can see the color. Now, Please understand, Alaska, you don’t often see blue skies like this. It’s often overcast, just like Iceland, just like that whole area, that part of the world, it’s often very cloudy. But when you see, when the sun does come out or if the clouds rise enough, you can see the color. You just, it’s amazing. The tundra is an amazing place to be just to see the scenery alone. And the mountains, the further you go out into the trip, you’ll start getting closer to the mountains. And the scenery is just amazing. And so there’s places where you can get out and get some photographs and the snow-capped peaks and so forth. It’s amazing. And if you’re lucky enough to see Mount McKinley, there it is. Sometimes it’s covered in fog and clouds. We’re told most people don’t get to see it, but we were able to. And so it’s an amazing site. And all of this is related to the global flood when continents were shifting and pushing up mountain ranges. And this is all part of that. But it is all very earthquake prone. This is also another one of the amazing things that you can occasionally see when you’re up there. In fact, the one on the left was the night that we were there, but they didn’t remember to wake us when it came out.
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So we missed it.
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One of our group did. Yeah, these are the Northern Lights. So you do have a good chance of seeing them while you’re up on a trip like this. But then when you’re finished with that whole area, and by the way, you can do all kinds of neat excursions as well. But when you are finished, we take the Holland America. mckinley explorer train down through the pass it’s a nine and a half hour trip from this area down to where we pick up the ship and i’ll just show you some of the clips along this area this is what the train looks like on the inside and it’s it’s it’s beautiful it’s first class seating and you got plenty of leg room and the scenery is phenomenal And so as you’re going down through the various valleys, this is the kind of thing you see. You’ll see the rivers flowing. And the fact that the leaves have all changed is where you see the color. Otherwise, everything would just be green. So this is why we like to come at this time of year. It’s just it’s a beautiful time to be there. And then at some places, you’re next to wide rivers. And in other places, you’re next to, you’re actually quite high here. They slow the train way down. This is one of the most famous sites to see. So they slow the train way down. You can actually see us going over this bridge. Beautiful scenery the whole way down for roughly nine and a half hours. Of course, when you go around Anchorage, the scenery gets a little less. But in any event, this year, or I should say just last September, was very unusual. We had a lot of rain, but up at the tundra, we had snow. Even the guide we had on the train was telling us he’s never seen snow at this time of year while he’s working up in Alaska. So this was a very unique experience to see snow while we were on that train. So that was very cool to see. But when we get down to Whittier, we pick up our ship, a Holland America ship. and you spent nine and a half hours in the train. And so now your room feels a little bit welcome while it’s kind of cold and damp outside. But in any event, this is what, the first thing you’re seeing is the Hubbard Glacier. You can actually take a little bit of a tour to go out and see Hubbard Glacier. It’s right along the ocean. But then as you’re going into Glacier Bay, The scenery is all really mountainous, very spectacular scenery. When you go into Glacier Bay, there’s a few things, especially I speak four times on the ship itself. And we talk about global climate change and we talk about glaciers. You hear the panic. They say, oh, yeah, these glaciers are receding. And they show you even in the visitor center down in Anchorage. I got a video of it that I showed during my presentation. They show a certain glacier the way it looked about 40 years ago, right down at the ocean. But then they show it. About 10 years ago, it was almost gone. They say, see, our glaciers are disappearing. But the day before, we took a catamaran out there, and the glacier is full again and right back down to the ocean. So these things come and go. But essentially, what’s happening is this is the tail end of the Ice Age. And the reason these things are coming and going is because the area is cold. And so these things will build and then they’ll recede. But Glacier Bay, like 97% of the whole bay has melted long before global warming was ever even an issue. Yeah. So when they talk about all this panic over the glaciers melting, it’s just all that panic. Anyway, we stop at various places along the way. The ship does. We stop first at Skagway. And there we can actually take a train ride up into the mountains. You can see the Gold Rush areas. But in the evenings is when I speak on the ship. In this particular one, they gave us a room to speak in. And so I was able to do four presentations in the evenings. And each evening after the sun goes down, and so there’s nothing much really to do anyway. So we have four one-hour presentations in the evenings. But at Skagway, you can take this little train up into the mountains. It’s the old Gold Rush area, and it’s spectacular scenery. This is something we highly recommend. A lot of these are extra. They’re called excursions, and you can add them to your trip. And so this is one we highly recommend. Again, I’ve got tons of video of all of this stuff. I just wanted to give you a little bit of an idea of what it’s like to go up in the old Gold Rush area. But at one place, it’s Gagway also, I wanted to get, for a new video we’re making called The Stricken Earth, I wanted to get a helicopter ride up to a local glacier. And so I was astonished by what I saw. In fact, when we landed on the glacier, it looks flat. But as you land, look how mountainous the thing is. And there are streams flowing all across the top of it. And the water is the best water you’ve ever tasted. We actually got down right on my stomach and drank water right out of the streams. It’s just, it is really good water. And it looks like dirt all over these things. We’re told that it’s not. It’s some sort of a, if I remember correctly, some sort of a fungus that grows on it. It looks like dirt, but it’s not. Maybe in some places it is. But anyway, so the helicopter lands. You have about 40 minutes there where your guide takes you around and shows you some interesting features of a glacier surface. But when you take back off again in the helicopter, you can actually see what a huge mound it is, a mountain in a valley. And look at those lines you see there. It’s astonishing. So this is one of the glaciers close to Skagway. And then as the ship moves to the south, we stop at Juneau. And then we also stop at one other stop south there at Ketchikan. And again, in the evening, again, more sessions. Ketchikan, we stop. These towns are great. There’s always all kinds of excursions. But then when you leave Ketchikan, you go overnight and you wind up in Vancouver. And it’s kind of cool to see the city when you’re pulling in in the early morning. But anyway, it is about a 12-day adventure, and the last seven days of which are on the ship. So if you like ships, it has an appeal all of its own as well. So anyway, that’s in essence the Alaska safari.
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So if you’re going to go to Alaska… You got to sign up for one of Mike’s safaris because you’re not just going to get the great tours. He already knows all the great spots to go. But you’re going to get to go on these places up into Alaska. You come back, you ride on a cruise ship. But you also get these sessions, and it sounds like quite a few of them, where you learn about creation. You learn about the stricken earth. You learn about… All of this from a creationist, from a biblical perspective, instead of some secular global warming, global whatever, climate change. Yeah, we agree with climate change. Climate changes. It changes in Colorado all the time. It does. But you get it from a biblical perspective. And wow, yeah, if you’re thinking about a cruise and a safari overall, this sounds like a really good one. And Mike, when’s your next one?
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That will be in 2027 in September, late August, September, and into September. And we’re actually taking bookings for that now. I think we take about 50 people. We’ve booked 50 spots, and I think we’re up to 30-some people. We haven’t actually opened it yet, but we do this every other year. We have to book the ship a year and a half in advance. Otherwise, you don’t get that many rooms. Gotcha.
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Okay. Okay. Well, we will put a link down in the show summary on the website and on the YouTube channel. And for folks on the radio, do they go to missionimperative.org? Org. Org. All right. That’s what I would think. Missionimperative.org. Missionimperative.org if you want to check it out. And now, Mike. I want to go to Africa someday. It’s one of those things I’ve never been… Well, actually, I walked across the border into Egypt for about five seconds when I went to Israel, but that’s as close as I’ve ever been to an African safari. But you do a real African safari, and before you get there… When you introduced yourself last week, you said, well, growing up in Africa, and you said it like, you know, growing up in Pennsylvania. Anyway, but growing up in Africa, that had to be pretty amazing, and now you go and you take people to Africa. Take us there.
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Hey, before we go to Africa, I want to get in the interesting fact of the week, but Doug, you also have a few announcements.
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There isn’t, but we do want to mention, speaking of Alaska, we just did that safari with Mike. There’s Frank. Yeah. has sponsored several shows. We want to mention Frank of Eagle River, Alaska. We want to thank Frank for all his support to Real Science Radio. Thanks, Frank. And speaking of the ninth edition, it’s really selling like hotcakes. We’re getting a lot of pre-orders. You’re going to love this new edition. And we thank you for all those orders. And we’re going to get those out as soon as we get our pallet full of books. And we expect that in roughly mid to late March. So, Doug, here’s the interesting fact of the week. Are you ready? Okay, here we go. What is the only letter of the English alphabet that does not appear anywhere in the periodic table?
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I was so happy when you had it narrowed down to only 26 possible answers, but then you threw in a chemistry question. element that no pun intended uh yeah let’s see the only letter that does not appear does it uh is there only one letter that doesn’t appear that’s only one in the english alphabet i’m gonna say x Obviously not a chemistry major. Yep. That’s why we have other chemists on the show.
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Mike, did you want to take a shot at it? I have not a clue. I would make up a letter. Well, you got a 1 in 26 chance of being right. Like a Scrabble. What are kind of the rare letters?
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Yeah, it’s J. J does not appear in the periodic table.
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Okay, Fred, I don’t see how that is of any value to anyone to know that piece of information. I think we need to go to Africa.
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There’s a lot of value, Doug. The value is me getting to do this. OK, so, Mike, let’s let’s head over to Africa and let’s hear about the safari that you do this, I guess, 16 day safari.
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Yeah, right. Yeah. In July. So just a few things to preface it for people who might be interested. A lot of people say, oh, boy, you know, it’s a long way to go. It is. And we take the direct flight out of Newark directly to Johannesburg. Get all the travel behind you. Don’t even bother going through Europe. We always purchase the economy plus seating on the plane as well, and everybody is really happy about that because you get extra leg room. Ta-da! Okay, so when we land in Johannesburg, everybody’s tired, and the first hotel we stay in… is right at the airport. It’s basically a causeway. You walk across to get to it. It’s beautiful. They have a buffet meal there. It’s amazing. Early the next day, we fly down to the city of Durban, and that’s where the safari begins. People want to know, well, what do you travel on over there? Do you have to walk? Do you have to camp in a tent every night? No, this is our mode of travel, a very cool little bus. And this will take us up, the first stop that we do is up to a little town called St. Lucia. It’s a World Heritage site. There’s a lot of Zulu markets, Zulu crafts and stuff that you can get there. And we stay at a beautiful little lodge called Ladiko Lodge. This is the first of our lodges that we stay in. And We keep the group small for one basic reason. There’s only 18 that can come. And that’s because three of our lodges only have nine rooms. And so that keeps it small. It keeps it really actually personal. It’s really nice. But everything is subtropical. It’s a beautiful area, beautiful birds and everything. We relax by the pool when we get there. But then the real reason we’re at St. Lucia specifically is because it has one of the biggest estuaries in In fact, Africa’s largest estuary, and we take a boat up into this estuary in order to see hippos. Now, hippos you won’t see very often anywhere else, at least not close up. Here you get to see them close because they’re in the water and the boat allows you to get to see hippos. Now, hippos are the most dangerous animal in Africa. Besides these guys, these guys are very dangerous too, and you see them from the boat as well. But a hippo is the most dangerous animal. More people die from them than any other animal, but you don’t normally get to see them closely. So this three-hour boat ride gives us a nice capability of seeing those animals close up. Then when we leave the next morning, we stop at a couple of Zulu markets. This is one of the very cool ones. This is called Ilala Weavers, and they make these beautiful woven grass baskets or barns. mats, whatever, in the typical Zulu tradition. And it’s a beautiful place to stop. So we stop there, and then we head on to our first of our big five game reserves. This is one of the two main game reserves that the whole safari hinges on, Magnoni Game Reserve. And where we stay in this game reserve is at Leopard Mountain Lodge, where we’re welcomed by Melissa Van Royen, the manager, The lodge is totally beautiful. It’s a very beautiful place to stay. Everything is thatched roof. Animals come right up to the edges of it. You can see what it’s like. You know, this is a young female in Yala. And these are all around the camp. So we’re warthogs. They’re very, very cool creatures that are right next to the camp. But their view from every one of the bungalows looks right out over the game reserve. And so you can just sit and watch with binoculars, just see what’s there. This is typically when people say, well, what’s your accommodation like in Africa when you go there? Do you sleep in tents? No, we stay in very nice places like you can see here. In fact, this is a brief tour of one of the lodges you stay in. You have your own little place, your own little balcony there. The animals are not restricted. They come right up to your porch there. You have an outside shower if you want to do that. It’s very private. Nobody can see you. That little plunge pool you see there is mainly used by people in the summertime. It’s a nice place to get into. It’s a nice, cool place to sit. But in the evenings after dinner, And I’ll show you what that’s like out under the stars in the evenings when you come back from dinner that you’re brought back by a ranger because the animals are out there. You’re brought back with a flashlight. They bring a flashlight and make sure there’s no leopards that have parked themselves on your deck. And once you’re in this place, you close the door and you’re there for the night. It’s self-contained, but it’s beautiful. And the animals can come right up. Sometimes they come and they drink right out of that plunge pool. But this is what it’s all about. This is the best way to see wildlife in Africa, from the back of a Land Cruiser or a Land Rover. And this is where you get to see a lot of animals. And by the way, one of the cardinal rules is you never stand up, because in the Bible, God said that he put the fear of man into the animals. If you stand up, then they suddenly recognize that there’s a human there. If you stay seated in these vehicles, the animals do not—they do not associate— the vehicle with a human. And they get very used to the vehicles. So seeing animals is what you see. Buffalo, giraffe. I mean, this was an amazing sighting for one of our people that came with us. In fact, it was my cousin and her husband. They came on a safari finally, some family members. And five minutes out from the camp, This is what we came across. And this was a royal treat because you don’t always see elephants this close. And these guys were not intimidated at all, but the herd came right up to us. And sometimes they’ll actually… Oh, man, that’s a little scary. trunk up and smell you. And that’s a royal treat when you get that, but you have to sit very, very still and quiet when they do that. Anyway, that is a very cool experience to have, elephants that close to you. And by the way, you can tell these animals are not threatened. The guides that are the rangers, they know when an animal is threatened and is feeling aggressive, they’re not showing any aggression. What they’re really headed for was this water tank, where they wanted to get fresh water. This is actually for the camp, but they were going to steal fresh water. They didn’t want the dirty water out of the water holes. So that’s where they were actually headed. But one of the most amazing sightings that we had was very rare black rhino. You do not see black rhino at all. It’s extremely rare. So we were… very, very privileged to see two, a mother and a baby coming out from the forest. And typically, if a black rhino exposes itself this much, it’s going to charge you. And so she did not charge. And so we were really happy about that. And right after we saw these black rhino… And by the way, you notice their horns are trimmed. They have to capture creatures every now and then to trim the horns to save them from the poachers. And I’ll show you what that’s like. This is something we organize for all of our guests. Right after we saw that, we came across a pack of cheetah that were hunting. Oh, I can’t get it to play. Here we go. These are young cheetah, and they had already taken off to go after an Inyala way too soon. And it’s astonishing how fast these guys can run. But these guys were still hunting. These were young, and they were still trying to learn the sneak and to try to get as close as you can before rushing off after your supper. So anyway, they didn’t catch anything while we were waiting there. So that’s one of the things about Africa where we go. You can’t go anywhere in the world and see a wider array of creatures that God made. That’s why we do this, because it’s a creation thing. And also you see evidence of the curse. These animals are killing each other now for food, and almost all the bushes you see have thorns on them. So the Bible talks about thorns and thistles. So the whole area is just full of that kind of thing. Evening game drives, again, you’ll see all kinds of creatures. People want to know what the food is like. Well, the food is excellent. This is part of breakfast before you order your hot meals. And this is sometimes what they’ll do with our groups. We’re told by this particular lodge that our groups are their favorite groups of any groups that come. And I think I know why, because our people are Christians and they treat everybody really well and they notice it. The staff notices that. So they treat us to a breakfast out in the bush. And this is a very cool thing to do. These are gourmet cooks, and they set up everything for us either in the woods like this or sometimes it’s out in the riverbed. But one of the things that I wanted to show you that is really fascinating is we have a very unique opportunity with this game reserve to help them take down rhinos to trim their horns. So what will happen is we’ll gather in the morning in lieu of one of our game drives. We’ll kind of drive around a bit until they’ve located one of the rangers has located a rhino. And we’ll gather here and we’ll get a little bit of a talk from the head of the game reserve. We’ll get a little bit of a talk from the vet who comes to do this. And so we understand everything that’s going on. The helicopter will land. We’ll meet the pilot and so forth. Once they land and they take off, they’ll go off to the rhino. They’re going to dart it. And then we follow in the Land Rovers. And once we do, once they’ve located it here, you can see what we’re doing. They’ve located the rhinos. And now we’re following in the bush. to get close to it so we can actually help. And what’s nice, you kind of feel like Mutual of Omaha Wild Kingdom because they allow each individual person who wants to, to come help them. They’ll do things like take the animal’s temperature or measure the girth of the horn that they’re trimming. And by the way, the horn is just compressed hair. It’s the same thing as your fingernail. It’s just keratin. But people in the Orient believe that it cures, you know, cancers and all kinds of strange things. It’s completely not true. And because of lies like that, these animals are very, very endangered. So to keep them from going extinct, many gamers have to go to this horn trimming method
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