In this episode of the National Crawford Roundtable podcast the guys discuss the murders of Rob Reiner and his wife, and President Trump’s response to them, and they talk in depth about the Islamic Jihadi Massacre in Bondi Beach, Australia.
SPEAKER 01 :
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SPEAKER 03 :
Back with another week of the National Crawford Roundtable podcast with most of the guys. Myself, Bob Duco out of Detroit. John Rush, Rush to Reason out of Denver, Colorado. Neil Boron, Neil Boron Live, not with us this week. But John and I, that’s okay. You and me can handle it. How are you doing?
SPEAKER 02 :
We’ll be all right. I’m good. How are you?
SPEAKER 03 :
I’m doing fine, thanks. We had a couple big news stories to talk about this week.
SPEAKER 02 :
Nah, there’s nothing going on, Bob.
SPEAKER 03 :
I know, really. Tell me about it. The murder, of course, of Rob Reiner and his wife by, it appears, his son. And Donald Trump’s reaction to that, his post that he made about it, which is catching a lot of heat, understandably so. And then also the horrific Jewish massacre during Hanukkah at Bondi Beach in Australia, there in Sydney, Australia. And so we’ll talk about that whole thing as well. So there’s a lot to uncover. Let’s start, though, with the Rob Reiner murder. I’m pretty sure everybody listening to this podcast is certainly aware of Of what happened, actor, writer, director Rob Reiner was murdered, stabbed to death, apparently with his throat slit as well, along with his wife in their mansion in Los Angeles. And it appears that it was their son who did this, who has been a troubled individual, according to news reports. He’s battled death. Depression and health and drug issues and such. So, OK, fine. But Rob Reiner and his son even produced and directed a documentary that they put out together probably about eight or nine years ago. So they’ve had a strained relationship, and the news reports suggest that they got into a little bit of an argument at a Christmas party the night before. Actually, yeah, the night before at Conan O’Brien’s house, and that Rob Reiner was apparently chastising his son, saying, you know what, this is not the place for this. You’re being rude to people here. And so there’s… Unconfirmed reports about words that were being spoken, but it was apparently later that night that this happened. And what happened was a masseuse had shown up to the house to, I guess, give the two of them a massage. And Rob Reiner and his wife were planning on having dinner with Barack and Michelle Obama that night. And no one was answering the gate. And so the masseuse called their daughter and their daughter came and let them in and found the bodies. And so that’s kind of what’s unfolded from there. There’s a lot to this to discuss. First of all, Rob Reiner himself. And then secondly, Donald Trump’s response to this, what he posted on Truth Social. But First, you know, John, I’m curious to get your take. I’ll level with you. When I first heard the news that Rob Reiner and his wife were dead and murdered, my immediate thought and reaction was not a negative one to focus on. the negative, ugly, and really vile comments that he’s made over the years about conservatives and MAGA and stuff like that. My immediate thought was, you know, oh my goodness, how tragic, you know, how horrible. And I just, you know, I hate the thought that this happened to. And then, by the way, I don’t mind telling you, I also thought to myself that You know something politically? Yeah, the guy’s about as big of an enemy as you could ask for politically. But there’s no taking away from what he accomplished in Hollywood. I mean, his string of movies, his string of successes and certainly acting roles from Meathead on All in the Family. But some of the movies that he’s directed is just really incredible. So I don’t see where anybody can take away from the legacy that he’s accomplished in Hollywood.
SPEAKER 02 :
No, and by the way, Bob felt exactly the same way. In fact, when I saw that announcement, you know, when it first came out, the news came out, and it was sort of a, you know, blast that went out. And I got a notification, and, you know, my first thought was, oh, my word, who, you know, number one, who would do something along these lines? And as you started reading more and more, and it was looking more like the sun did. I mean, even that’s… Somebody dying, Bob, is already tragic enough, but having a family member be the murderer in this particular case, it has a whole other level of discouragement, I guess you could say, to it. As a conservative, I’m probably on one side of the The aisle, I mean, you know me and where I stand and so on. I mean, he is like polar opposite on the other end. On the same token, unlike Charlie Kirk on the left, I would never wish death upon anyone, including somebody like him, even though we were about as far apart as we could get. And I considered him to be a very vile individual in the way he treated our side. But given that, Bob, yeah, I’m not going to take away any of the great work that he did in Hollywood and all of that. And on the same token, I would never wish anybody dead.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. Well, I mean, you think about the mark that he left in Hollywood. First of all, half the movies you watch these days, you see at the very beginning it says Castle Rock Entertainment. Okay, he’s the founder of Castle Rock Entertainment. His classic movies like this is Spinal Tap, but also Stand By Me, The Princess Bride, When Harry Met Sally, Misery, which is a really disturbing movie to watch. Oh, it is. A Few Good Men, my goodness, American President, left-wing movie, of course, The Bucket List, one of my all-time favorite movies.
SPEAKER 02 :
Oh, yeah, great movie.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, I know. So there’s no taking anything away from what he accomplished. And certainly his character of Michael Stivick, Meathead, from All in the Family, it turns out in real life he wasn’t having to do a whole lot of acting in that character because it’s pretty much who he was, a left-wing guy. So he was extremely talented. But part of the legacy – and here’s what we have to figure out. And this is going to kind of lead us slowly into the Donald Trump response to this. Part of his legacy is – that he decided to become a political activist and a political voice. And so does it undo the artistic talent that he brought to culture? No, not at all. But he did choose to identify himself in his later years as a political pundit, and not just a left-wing political pundit, but somebody who has been extremely – vile in his attacks on Donald Trump. He’s called him, quote, a mentally ill sociopath, a murderer, a Nazi, a threat to humanity, said that he wanted to kill Nancy Pelosi, and just things like this that are just way, way over the top. So can you begrudge Donald Trump for not shedding a tear over Rob Reiner being killed? No. But can you begrudge Donald Trump for not showing class when someone has been murdered like this? I think yes. And so I just – I got to call it the way that it is, OK? I think Donald Trump absolutely whiffed on this. This was a golden opportunity for him to show a contrast – Between the left when it comes to Charlie Kirk and the right when it comes to one of their icons and heroes. And I got to say, he climbed into the same kind of mud that I’m used to seeing liberals climb into. And I was disappointed.
SPEAKER 02 :
And for all of you out there listening that are defending Donald Trump, it’s defenseless. So those of you that are doing that are blindly following somebody. And this is the thing that I talk about constantly on my show. You still have to call out the things that happen, Bob, whether you love a guy or not. I love Donald Trump. I love the fact that he’s president. I love what he does as president. But he’s not perfect. He’s not infallible. There are things he does that I at times don’t agree with. This is one of those times. And those people that are defending him for this, you’re acting just like the people that came after Charlie Kirk after he was murdered. I’m sorry to put that comparison there, Bob. But it’s true. And some of you out there listening to us, you’re going to hear me say that. You’re not going to like the fact that I said that. But I’ve seen it on social media. There are people on our side, Bob, that are defending Donald Trump, saying basically it’s OK to say that because of everything Rob Reiner did to Donald Trump. No, it’s not OK. You take the high road. And, you know, it’s not even, Bob, what he said. It’s how soon he said it. If you want to say that about Rob Reiner two weeks after his death, you know what? Be my guest. But you don’t do it the day of. Right. I’m completely with you.
SPEAKER 03 :
And the thing is, he could have held on to his sense of, I don’t know, pride and ego, if you will.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, you could have even said something about, you know, he and I differ on all sorts of things. Exactly. It doesn’t matter. At the end of the day, still a human being, still a loss of life, and we mourn that loss of life. That’s what you say in a time like that, Bob. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 03 :
And you know what? I could not agree with you more. And that’s really what I was – I was expecting. I was expecting something where he would at least acknowledge the – even say something like, look, there’s no denying that Rob Reiner and I were political enemies.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, we had our differences.
SPEAKER 03 :
And we had – yes, we had huge differences, huge battles, and there’s no denying that. But there’s also no denying – Number one, his mark that he left on culture and Hollywood.
SPEAKER 02 :
In fact, he could have even added something to the effect. And this is what a speechwriter should have been helping with. Of course, Donald Trump probably doesn’t listen much to them. You could have even said something to the effect of, you know, as much as Rob Reiner hated me and wanted me dead, I am sad at the fact that he is.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right, right. Actually, when I kind of played in my head at first some of the ways that he could have gone with this, that’s one of the things I thought of, actually, to say there’s no doubt that Rob Reiter hated me with a passion, okay? But you know something? The man was murdered. The man was murdered, and he left a mark, and I just don’t want to return hate with hate. And so I’m just asking everybody to pray for his family and such. And let’s – yes, there are so many golden opportunities for a speech to have been written that could have woven that thread between the two realities of his hateful left-wing rhetoric and smears on Donald Trump. and taken the high road. And I wish that would have happened. But there’s some other things about this and the reaction to Donald Trump and his post. And I want to dive into that coming up. But first, though, before we do, I want to remind everybody that this podcast is sponsored. And we appreciate you folks supporting our sponsors. We very much do. Like SunPowerLED, like, of course, Preborn. And now we’re coming up on the end of the year, everybody. And some of you might be thinking, boy, you know, I could really use a nice tax write-off for the end of this year. Here’s what you do. Maybe you’ve given a pre-born already. Maybe you’ve given a few times throughout the course of the year. Would you give one big fat gift at the end of this year? There’s a couple of ways to do this. Number one, we need some of you out there to buy ultrasound machines. They’re 15 grand a piece. Yeah, great tax write-off for you. But, you know, your forever legacy is you are responsible for stopping thousands and thousands of abortions year after year. Think about that, okay? Because that’s what Preborn does. They show ultrasound images in pro-life centers across the country. And when moms see a picture of their baby, they choose life. They very rarely get an abortion still. So you’re saving babies’ lives. So if you could buy an ultrasound machine for 15 grand, we need you to do that. For everybody else, we need you to pay for an individual number of ultrasound images. $28 is the average expense to stop one abortion, to save one baby’s life. So how many babies’ lives will you save? $28 times fill in the blank. It’s that simple. $28 times fill in the blank. Pray about a number. 100% of everything you give to Preborn goes to ultrasounds. Nothing for overhead. That’s all covered by private donors. And by the way, we have an anonymous donor chooses to stay anonymous and has agreed to match dollar for dollar everything that you folks in the audience give. So if you buy one ultrasound machine for $15,000, it’s now buying two ultrasound machines. $28 saves two babies’ lives. This is from now to the end of the year. So go to CrawfordMediaGroup.net and click on Preborn. CrawfordMediaGroup.net, click on pre-born, give right there, or just call 833-850-BABY. That’s 833-850-BABY. We appreciate you doing that. Support our sponsors and support SunPowerLED and John, the great work that they do.
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Absolutely. And so we appreciate you folks doing that as we talk in this podcast about right now the murder of Rob Reiner and his wife and President Trump’s response to this, which we both agree was disappointing. And just in case anybody’s not familiar, let me just read very quickly what President Trump’s post was. And this is why I just flat out disagree with it. We both do. He said, quote, A very sad thing happened last night in Hollywood. Rob Reiner, a tortured and struggling but once very talented movie director and comedy star, has passed away together with his wife Michelle, reportedly due to the anger he caused others through his massive, unyielding, and incurable affliction with a mind-crippling disease known as Trump Derangement Syndrome, sometimes referred to as TDS. He was known to have driven people crazy by his raging obsession of President Donald J. Trump, With his obvious paranoia reaching new heights as the Trump administration surpassed all goals and expectations of greatness, and with the golden age of America upon us, perhaps never like before, may Rob and Michelle rest in peace. A couple – a beginning, a very sad thing. I know. The beginning, a very sad thing. The end, may they rest in peace and basically sandwiched with a bunch of garbage in the middle. Right. Now – I also want to address, John, and this is your I want to get your take on this as well. OK, I certainly agree with you that there’s no excuse for defending that for all the people who, you know, we say you guys can never find anything good in Donald Trump. They say, well, you can never find anything bad. And it was like, no, that’s not true. We’re willing to call out the man’s flaws in a way that Democrats often don’t and won’t. But we do and we will and we are right now. OK. However, John, I also want to address the opposite extreme, and I’m talking about the Christians who are the Trump haters, the ones who – they tend to vote Republican. They tend to be conservative, but they just can’t stand Donald Trump and his personality. He rubs them the wrong way. Okay, fine. It almost seems like – because we’ve already addressed those who are defending Trump, and we’ve called them out. They are wrong. It’s inexcusable. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. just waiting to pounce when Trump does or says something wrong so they can go, look at it. And then they’re extremely emotional in their anger toward him. That’s just so disgusting. That’s vile. That’s beneath the president of the United States. How could somebody… Okay, fine. But why aren’t you that passionate when Democrats do or say horrible things? I mean, so I think it’s wrong for us, John, to go to the other extreme, which is to somehow say… See, he’s everything ugly that we said he was. This, therefore, becomes a reason to argue that we got no business supporting him whatsoever. No, we support him. We pray for him. And we say, just like we would to a family member, we say, you know what? I love you. I’m not going to disown you. But in this case, you’re wrong. And that’s how we’re handling with Trump.
SPEAKER 02 :
And by the way, can’t agree with you more, Bob, on that. There are people out there literally that are waiting for the guy to stub his toe so they can actually say something bad at the end of the day. And I’m not one of those, as you do, Bob. I call out what’s wrong is wrong, whether it’s on either side of the aisle. That includes Donald Trump himself in this particular case. What he said was wrong. Again, like I said, it’s not that he said anything untrue, by the way. It’s the timing of things. The reality is, you know, it’s an old saying of, you know, it’s not what you say in this case, it’s when you said it. Reality is, you know, if you’re going to say something about him, you know, give it give the time for dust to settle, at least. I mean, you know, let let a funeral be done and all of those things. If you want to come out and say something in regards to the differences between you and Rob and so on, then you know what? Be my guest. I probably personally, Bob, would never say. I don’t think at the end of the day it really benefits anybody when it’s all said and done. At this point in time, the guy’s gone. He has now met his maker. At the end of the day, that’s all there is to it. He’s no longer going to be around badgering Trump. And so you know what? You just let bygones be bygones and move on. But for those Christians that want to find fault in everything Donald Trump does, shame on you. For those of you that are defending Donald Trump in this particular situation because you can never find fault in the guy, shame on you as well.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right, exactly. So let’s not go to one extreme or the other. And this does not become something, at least in my opinion, it doesn’t become something to undo all of the good and all of the positive that Donald Trump does. He is a flawed human being who has good and bad. Okay? He’s got warts. These are some of his warts that show through. All right? We see that. Sometimes this flesh gets the best of him. This is an example of that. But my goodness, this does not rise to the level of saying, therefore, let’s undo everything that he has done, everything that he’s accomplished. Let’s throw it away and let that outweigh this. This is a poor moment of judgment and emotion on his part. And That’s what it is. We call it out. But my goodness, the man is still a phenomenal president. He’s not a perfect president and certainly not a perfect man, but he is a phenomenal president. And I don’t think we can deny that. Now, he is addressing the nation tonight. We’re recording this on Wednesday morning. So tonight he’s planning on addressing the nation. john here’s how naive i am okay there’s this little part of me that’s hoping that donald trump will allow his speechwriter to put in there a little bit of a walk back on the rob reiner thing I don’t think there’s a chance in the world he’ll do that. But I’ll tell you what, he would score so many points if he said, look, and on a personal note, I’ve taken down that post from Truth Social because a lot of you called me on the carpet for it. And upon reflection, you know what? You’re right. I shouldn’t have said that. And so, yes, he’s my political enemy. He is. And he said nasty and vile things about me. But The man just died, and I shouldn’t have done that. So please accept my apology for that. And, hey, and he can even make a joke. You know what? Even somebody like me, Donald Trump, who knows almost everything, well, every once in a while makes a mistake too. He can even laugh self-deprecating.
SPEAKER 02 :
He could. No, that’s exactly right.
SPEAKER 03 :
Score so many points with that. I just don’t think there’s a chance in the world.
SPEAKER 02 :
No, I don’t think it is either. I mean, I love the guy dearly and I talk about all the time that he’s got, you know, Bob, an ego, if you would. And maybe that’s what it takes to be president of the United States. We’ve talked about that in the past. I’m not taking anything away from the guy being president. But some of this sort of stuff, and this is for all of you that are defending him. This is where, and I don’t know that it’ll have a huge impact upon midterms. It probably won’t by then, you know, the timeline changes. is long, Bob, and people have short memories and all of that. But at the end of the day, this doesn’t help our party. So those of you that are defending him, please think about the strategic end of things and what we’re constantly battling as a party to put forth our conservative message on a regular basis, Bob, and get the right people elected and so on. I mean, the reality is this doesn’t help us in that area. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 03 :
And you know what? Let’s just make sure we don’t go to either extreme like we talked about before. Be willing to criticize when criticize is due. But don’t go to the other extreme, which is to so hyper-focus on this that you try to shame other Christians into supporting Donald Trump, shaming people for daring to support him. It’s like – No, I’m not the slightest bit embarrassed about supporting him. Now, I’d be embarrassed if I were trying to defend him saying something that I think was wrong, then that would be silly. But no, I think he’s done a phenomenal job as president. How do you see him addressing the nation? Obviously, he wants to get things back on track. His poll numbers have been slipping. He’s going to be able to tout a lot of things, of course, that he’s done and accomplished on the worldwide stage. Of course, there’s no doubt about that. So, yeah, he’s going to be able to say, look, I’ve secured the border. I’ve stopped the flow of fentanyl and other drugs into the U.S. I’ve been working on lowering crime. We’ve got eight peace deals under our belt. There’s a ceasefire in place between Israel and Hamas. Trade deals around the world have been renegotiated without inflation spiking as a result. Women’s sports are being protected. We got 18 trillion dollars in U.S. investment coming into this in America, including many from the from the rest of the world. And so but now he’s got to focus on the economy and address that. So real quick, got about 30 seconds. But in about 30 seconds, what do you think he should hit on tonight, John?
SPEAKER 02 :
He needs to hit on all of the above and the fact that, you know, to me, there also needs to be a teaching lesson. This is one area where I do feel like he can not necessarily attack, but he needs to instruct people that the Fed themselves is part of why we have the affordability crisis in America right now. And he needs to do a good job of explaining. We do it on this program constantly, Bob. I do it during the week. I know you do as well. He needs to do a better job of explaining. There’s only so much as president I can control when it comes to the economy and affordability. The Fed has to participate as well, and they haven’t.
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Continuing the second half of the National Crawford Roundtable podcast with myself, Bob Duco, the Bob Duco Show out of Detroit. John Rush, Rush to Reason out of Denver, Colorado. Denver, Colorado, which I just I don’t know. I don’t think you guys can get any more conservative than you are. Oh, man.
SPEAKER 02 :
My goodness. I wish we could get conservative, actually.
SPEAKER 03 :
It’s incredible. You’ve got Northeast, which we know how left-wing liberal they are. And then you’ve got California and Oregon and Washington. We know how left-wing they are. And then in the middle of the country, you’ve got Colorado. It just amazes me how many left-wing liberals. And crazies are operating out of Colorado. A lot of Supreme Court cases, though, coming out of your state. So anyway, just thought I’d pick on John being from Colorado. Because after all, here in Michigan, we’re extremely conservative here in Michigan.
SPEAKER 02 :
Oh, yeah, you are. Sure.
SPEAKER 03 :
You know, Gretchen.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, and not to get off track really quick, Bob, but you have the same problem in your state. that we have in Colorado. We have a terrible GOP leadership problem in Colorado that is not helping us win. It’s actually doing just the opposite, probably a podcast in and of itself. But you have some of the same issues we have, and it’s why we don’t have more conservatism in people in politics along those lines in Colorado. That’s another podcast, but that’s the fact.
SPEAKER 03 :
We have had, especially in the last couple of years, we have had some huge divisions here. And we still actually are having on a more local level, but we still have huge divisions and factions, if you will, fracturing our GOP here in the state of Michigan. So, yeah, I know. I know you know that all too well there. Anyway, Neil Boron, Neil Boron Live is not with us this week. So we’ll have Neil back next week. But let’s shift the discussion now and talk about what happened at Bondi Beach in Sydney, Australia. This is just a horrible massacre. You’ve got this Hanukkah event and these two Islamic jihadi gunmen, a father and son, were who just start gunning people down, ended up killing 15 people, including a Holocaust survivor, a rabbi, a 10-year-old girl. Now, the dad was killed by police. The son was shot by police, which, by the way, can I just say, what courage for this hero, this 43-year-old man, who goes running up to one of the gunmen and wrestles the gun away from him, pointing the gun at him. Now, he ends up getting shot a couple times in the arm, but thankfully he’s going to be okay. And this hero, by the way, was a Muslim man who was saving the lives of a bunch of Jewish people that were being massacred. So what a hero he was, deserving of of respect. The gunman, apparently, the father and son recently went to the Philippines, and there’s an area of the Philippines that’s known for kind of an ISIS hotbed, ISIS training, and it appears that they got some ISIS propaganda there. Who knows? But the son had two ISIS flags, those black flags, in his car. He also had some IEDs, improvised explosive devices. But my goodness, John, you look at the anti-Semitism that has been spreading throughout the world, especially After October 7th, 2023, you would think that would be a time where, hey, there’d be a little bit more sympathy developed for Israel. But it’s almost like the hornet’s nest got kicked of anti-Semitism, and it’s just increased more and more. And so I’m not surprised something like this happened. It’s tragic. But just your thoughts in general about what happened there in Australia. Yeah.
SPEAKER 02 :
Oh, it was awful. And there was actually an ex-post that was taken down. It was a 10-minute, 39-second video that had the viewpoint of somebody just across the street behind basically where the shooters were giving a really bird’s-eye view of everything happening. I don’t know why that video was taken down, but I watched it and went back to watch it about – Well, I don’t know, 10 minutes, 15 minutes after finishing it, and it was down at that point. I should have somehow saved it or something along those lines. Not that it mattered because I saw it anyways, Bob. But as you’re watching it and watching what these guys were doing, I mean, my mouth was just wide open. I mean, I didn’t know really what to even say. You’re just watching it literally in awe and in sadness thinking, you know, who in their right mind would do something along these lines? And, of course, you can probably talk about this, but Australia having some of the hardest hardest gun control laws right in the world so all of you that are on that side of the fence saying that when these things happen you need more laws to you know you know to keep that from happening um yeah no australia’s got some of the toughest gun control laws that are out there and these things still happened
SPEAKER 03 :
Exactly. And the the father in this case, the Islamic jihadi father, he was a licensed gun owner. He went through the license, passed all the checks, background checks and all of that. So, you know, what are you going to do in a in a case like that? People say, oh, we just got to get rid of the gun. What’s getting rid of the guns going to do? The bad guys aren’t going to get rid of the guns. They’re not going to give them up.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, in this case, he went through all the proper channels and even had the right guns registered the whole nine yards. So, Bob, there wasn’t anything this guy did wrong. But at the end of the day, he still did wrong, meaning it’s not the guns that do wrong. It’s the people behind them that do. It’s a hard issue is what it is. It’s not a gun issue, as we always say.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. Absolutely. Absolutely. So there’s no doubt this is just a horrific tragedy. And, you know, I have to say, I don’t want to make too much of the hero who stopped one of the gunmen here. But, John, you ever think of moments like that where, you know, we all like to think we’re going to be the bravest guy there, you know, and I’d like to think that. that I would be one of those guys who would charge at a gunman. You know, I think that I would, but everybody can talk big until they’re actually in that moment. I haven’t been in that particular situation, so I don’t know what it’s like to charge after a gunman. But I think that there’s a lot of us that would like to think that we do have it in us to do what this guy did. And it was a brave, heroic thing. That gunman could have turned around and shot him in the head while he was charging at him, but he ran up to him from behind. Yeah, no, you know what, Bob?
SPEAKER 02 :
Definition of a hero. Bravery. I mean, the guy was a hero. He kept sneaking up, crouched down behind the cars, and then finally had a moment where he actually went up and did what he did. I mean, a lot of people would not have done that, so you’ve got to give the guy credit.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, you know what? You really do. You really do. What about the state of…
SPEAKER 02 :
anti-semitism though in the world because you don’t tend to think of australia necessarily as a place where you can you know you would expect something like this maybe in london it’s bad everywhere bob it’s bad here i i fought in and i’ll say this openly because i banned uh several people from my text line earlier this week i banned one caller that that i know is on the the hateful side of you know hating israel hating jews and these guys will couch it in different ways but at the end of the day They despise the Jews. They despise Israel. I even had one guy text in, and this is not a joke, Bob. Somebody that’s been a listener to the show texts in different things periodically and literally sent me a text message saying, you know, Hitler should have finished the job, and it’s just wrong that he didn’t. And I can’t believe that you guys out there right now are on the side of the Jews. And, of course, those people I just banned because I’m not dealing with them. But, Bob, I’m getting to an age anymore where I’m not putting up with this nonsense. I’m not even going to debate these people. It’s not worth it.
SPEAKER 03 :
I got to tell you, John, I hit that point a while ago where there comes a point where it’s like this is futile. Yeah, I’m not doing this. Yeah.
SPEAKER 02 :
I mean, well – But my point, Bob, is in our own – because these are – I know these guys because I’ve had conversations with them in the past. And on everything but this topic, we’re in line as far as the economy and conservatism and where we’re headed and so on. But then these knuckleheads cross this line of – All Jews are evil, and all of the evils of the world are their fault, and we’ve got to call them out for it. And in some cases, it’s okay to annihilate them, like in the case of Bondi Beach in Australia. I mean, these people are delusional, Bob. They’re psychopaths. No, I know.
SPEAKER 03 :
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SPEAKER 02 :
You could be very well on the right track with that, Bob, and something that honestly probably needs to be thought more about. I’m sure the administration and all of those that are a part of that are looking at this, thinking about it. And by the way, for those of you that maybe don’t realize it, a lot of what’s happening in Venezuela is part of this as well, Bob, because a lot of that money gets funneled right back into terrorist organizations, and they’re cutting off really the head of the snake, if you would, by doing what they’re doing. A lot of criticism coming out of the left for doing that, but at the end of the day, That’s part of the process here, Bob, of what you’re talking about. So, I mean, I’m sure this administration knows full well exactly what you’re talking about in our processes of, or in the process, I should say, of addressing that. The question is how much more needs to be done.
SPEAKER 03 :
Absolutely. Well, and by the way, you’re absolutely right in the fact that you’ve got a lot of this money going to terrorist organizations. Like, for example, you have in Somalia. Shabab, by the way, is the largest Islamic jihadi terrorist organization in Somalia. And you remember that whole thing going on with Minnesota under Tim Walz and the billion-dollar scam that happened there. There’s reports that much of that money actually went to Shabab in Somalia as well. So you’ve got a lot of terror organizations around the world, Islamic jihadi terrorists, that are being funded in many different ways. And you just can’t help but wonder what happened over the four years of Joe Biden, how much did that build up? And it’s tragic what happened in Australia. We don’t want to take anything away from that. But my goodness, we don’t want another 9-11 to happen in this country. And I don’t know, a lot of people may not be aware of this report that just came out this week from the Director of National Intelligence. But it turns out that they are estimating that during Joe Biden’s four years in office, That there were about 18,000 known or suspect terrorists. These are people on the terror watch list. 18,000 of them welcomed and released into the United States. We caught them. And then we release them. And many of these people from the botched Afghan withdrawal where it’s like, oh, let’s just welcome a bunch of people unvetted into this country and claim that they were vetted. So, John, you got to think about that, man. 18,000 Islamic Jihadi terrorists in this country in four years. And that’s just through the the Afghan. This doesn’t even factor in how many people how many Islamic Jihadi terrorists may have come in over the Mexican border through the open borders.
SPEAKER 02 :
And I’m glad you just said that because I was going to say the same thing. I mean, also look at the open borders. Those are now shut down. So, again, that’s another step in the right direction from this administration. But, yeah, Bob, at the end of the day, how many people actually came through the literally not even porous, but just flat out open border where literally anybody that wanted to come in was was able to do so. And, you know, the number that you just gave, who knows, that could be half right. We have no idea is the problem.
SPEAKER 03 :
I know. And the scary part of this is I know that there are a lot of terror attacks that are being thwarted. We do see the news reports of that.
SPEAKER 01 :
We do.
SPEAKER 03 :
That’s very good. But my goodness, you can’t help but wonder. When is that big terror attack going to slip through the cracks? And I’m certainly not wishing for that. We’re not at all. But when you have who knows how many thousands, if not potentially tens of thousands, it only took 19 terrorists to carry out 9-11. OK, when you have potentially tens of thousands of Islamic jihadi terrorists in this country and we know how patient they are. We know they’ll take their time and infiltrate into society and go to college and make friends and have Facebook pages. And they seem just like regular Americans. But little do we know, they’ve been spending year after year behind the scenes slowly arranging the chess pieces for the planned Islamic attack on this country. And I just… John, I hate to say it, but I think we’re in kind of a September 10th mentality right now. And we have been for a while. And I shudder to think what’s happening right now below the radar screen with potentially tens of thousands of Islamic jihadis welcome into this country and here right now, thanks to Joe Biden.
SPEAKER 02 :
Keep your head on a swivel and not to get off track here, Bob, but these same individuals you talked about earlier that would be on the side of, you know, Jew-hating and Israel and all of that. By the way, these are the same people that wouldn’t even agree with you and I right now on these terrorists and what’s happening because they still blame 9-11 on Israel and the Jews and Mossad and so on. I mean, again, Bob, you go down some of these rabbit holes with these people and they’re just wackadoodles. But you’re correct in what you’re saying, by the way, when it comes to, you know, are we at a September 10th moment right now? Honestly, and I talk about this on a lot of my different programs that I have, Keep your head on a swivel. Be alert at all times. Do not get lackadaisical because the reality is we live in a different world today than we used to.
SPEAKER 03 :
I know. Well, sometimes I wonder about… Myself here in Michigan, because I broadcast this show from WMUZ Studios in Detroit, which we are literally three miles down the road from Dearborn, Michigan, the largest population of Muslims outside of the Middle East here in Dearborn, Michigan. And so, you know, I wonder about things like this, certainly. And so we do, you’re right, have our head on a swivel. Let’s be careful. Let’s be aware. I’m very glad to see that the FBI – I think the FBI is in good hands with people like Kash Patel and Dan Bongino. And I do believe that they are very aggressively looking to catch these kind of terrorist attacks before they actually happen. And so I don’t think they’re asleep at the wheel, but I just – No, I don’t either. You can’t help but wonder what’s going to slip through the cracks.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, and I think this is where you have to be careful because given the fact that we are doing a lot of things to thwart these individuals, even what’s happening in Venezuela and the like, you kind of stir the hornet’s nest up a little bit, Bob, when you do those things, meaning that in a lot of cases, you may actually be provoking some things, not saying we shouldn’t be doing it. I believe we should be, remember. You’re kind of, you know, whacking at that beehive or whacking at that hornet’s nest at the same time. And sometimes, you know, you get stung in the process. So, again, all the more reason why I believe you’re correct and we really have to be aware of everything going on around us at all times.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, that we do. And I don’t – I hate the idea of thinking about a second 9-11. But honestly, John – I think you’re naive if you don’t, Bob. I know. I hate to say it, but I just – I would be surprised if we don’t end up at some point having another 9-11. And when the first one happened – I mean, it hit us out of the blue. Nobody woke up that morning expecting that was going to happen. You know, all of our jaws were collectively on the ground as we were watching what seemed like a movie in Hollywood playing out in real life. And so how much worse potentially could something like that be? You know, could they actually organize things? a few different hijackings of planes or worse yet, get a bunch of maybe dirty chemical or atomic weapons or something into this country and set them off in a big city. I just, you know, I don’t know. I don’t want to scare people.
SPEAKER 02 :
I think anything’s possible, Bob. I think at the end of the day, and for those that would say, don’t give these guys any ideas, trust me, they’re already thinking about this thing. So the reality is you’re not giving anybody any ideas.
SPEAKER 03 :
Nobody’s got a light bulb going off over the head going, oh, never thought of that. No, no. But I’ll tell you what, though. This is also, if I can really become a political hack right now, this is why elections really do matter. Oh, they do. Because we had four years of Joe Biden, and in four years of Joe Biden with open borders and lax security and allowing who knows how many – Islamic jihadi terrorists to come into this country during that time. They’re here now. And this is the result. This is the fruit that’s produced when you allow Democrats in control and in power. And as I’ve said countless times, if born-again evangelical Christians didn’t vote Democrat, I probably wouldn’t worry so much about pointing the finger at because it’s like, okay, well, we’re all preaching to the choir, but the problem is a third of the choir is still voting for Democrats.
SPEAKER 02 :
That’s right.
SPEAKER 03 :
And that to me is one of the problems. This is why if you’re a born-again evangelical Christian, the smartest thing we could do is completely starve the Democrat Party from the Christian vote because if they lost that 25% to 30% of the Christian vote, if they lost that, they would have no choice, John, but to reform from the inside.
SPEAKER 02 :
Great point. Great point. No. And those of you listening that aren’t, you’ve heard Bob and I talk about this and Neil many times when it comes to that quote unquote Christian voter that votes for the left, which Bob, I just got to say, I just have such a hard time wrapping my head around that because those words just, they just don’t go, they don’t belong in the same sentence. Christian and left don’t belong in the same sentence, period. So those of you that vote that way, I mean, I would love for one of you to really send me a long email and explain to me and justify why you do that, because every single thing the left believes in is 100% part of the Marxist ideology, and it’s anti-God. So how can you as a Christian vote on that side of the aisle, Bob?
SPEAKER 03 :
I can’t wrap my brain around that. I just really can’t. So anyways, we kind of wind down our time together. John mentioned earlier that President Trump is addressing the nation tonight. So he does need to convince Americans that he is taking us on the right economic track, even though the polls seem to show that he’s weak in that area. So somehow he’s got to change the perception that regarding his his approach to the economy. And there is a certain I hate to say it, but a lot of Americans, including Trump supporters, are like, yeah, you’ve been doing all of these great things around the world. And that’s fantastic. And one big collective yawn. I just I want you to do something about my grocery shopping. We talked about this last week, actually. And I want to make sure to mention again. people can’t have an unrealistic expectation about things like inflation, okay? Inflation doesn’t go up and down like a roller coaster. Inflation goes up and sideways like a staircase. So what Joe Biden did to us for four years, okay, that’s the new bottom. The question is, how much can Donald Trump slow continued growth of inflation? That’s what people need to realize. The damage has been done. But what does he need to do? We got about 30, 40 seconds. What would you suggest he do to convince people economically? And you talked before about the Fed. I get that. Is this just about selling people on the reality of the Fed’s control in this? Or is there something he can do also? Yeah.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, I mean, I think he needs to highlight some of the things that are good. Oil’s down. Fuel prices are down. That is having an effect upon what you see at the grocery store and so on.
SPEAKER 03 :
Under $3 a gallon nationwide.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, here in Colorado, we’re under $2 in some places. So it’s a big deal for people. So he needs to highlight that. He does need to explain to people that, you know, food prices, it’s sort of like the mortgage rates with the Fed. There’s a relationship there, but it’s not a direct relationship, meaning that, yes, as I get fuel prices and oil prices to come down, the way that a commodity market works is you’re not going to see that affected in food prices for just a little bit of time because everything is done in advance based upon calculations and so on. I know that’s hard to explain, but his writers need to get that down in a really, really succinct manner that, yes, I only can control so much of this because you’ve got the markets doing what markets do. And then I think, yes, on top of all of that, Bob, you’ve got to throw into this. Hey, guys, on the same token, I have been fighting with the Fed trying to get interest rates down for all of you because it affects everything you do from your mortgage to your credit card debt to to everything, you know, to buying a car. At the end of the day, those things matter. And I’m fighting hard for you. The reality is the Fed doesn’t want to play ball with me. Right.
SPEAKER 03 :
And people do need to. You’re absolutely right. I think America needs to be educated on the power that the Fed has without making it sound too personal and petty about Jerome Powell, even though Jerome Powell is, in fact, trying to don’t even mention his name.
SPEAKER 02 :
Just talk about it as the Fed in general.
SPEAKER 03 :
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SPEAKER 02 :
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